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Sporkman
April 2nd, 2008, 03:00 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080401/ap_on_hi_te/linux_pcs_4


Time is right for Linux PCs to emerge

By BRIAN BERGSTEIN, AP Technology Writer Tue Apr 1, 4:23 PM ET

BOSTON - The free Linux operating system handles big tasks like running supercomputers and ATMs. Now Linux has a chance to finally crack Microsoft Corp.'s hold on computing's most visible domain — mainstream PCs — because of the rise of innovative, inexpensive machines.

Of course, prognosticators perennially say Linux is on the verge. It gets high marks for security and stability and is widely used behind the scenes in corporate servers, making it a natural candidate to steal desktop thunder from Microsoft's dominant Windows. And yet Linux PCs still represent less than 2 percent of the market.

This time, though, there's actually evidence of momentum.

While the best features in the latest Windows release, Vista, require top-notch configurations that can quickly ramp up a PC's price, one of the hottest segments of the industry involves inexpensive computers.

Laptops under $400 are real possibilities now, and some of the most buzz-worthy use Linux, such as Asustek Computer Inc.'s EeePC and the One Laptop Per Child Foundation's $200 "XO" computer for schoolchildren. Linux also is available on slim little "netbooks" being pushed by Intel Corp.

Not only is Linux essentially free to the PC vendor, but the operating system also is better suited than Vista for cheap PCs' spartan hardware designs. (Windows XP is available on scaled-back PCs like Intel's Classmate, but it's unclear what will happen after Microsoft soon stops selling XP to the general public.)

Amazon.com's top-selling PCs include several Asustek Linux machines. Although Wal-Mart Stores Inc. recently stopped a test run of selling Linux PCs in some stores, the company says it will continue to offer them online.

Business computing suppliers are finding open-source desktops especially gaining traction in cost-conscious developing markets. For example, a PC distributor in Eastern Europe is packaging software from IBM Corp. and Linux vendor Red Hat Inc. to create Microsoft-free desktops for that market.

One buyer is Aleksandar Spagnut, a director of Moscow-based Rushotel, which needed new desktop PCs for a hotel-building project. Spagnut said his company saved 30 to 35 percent over comparable Windows machines. He added that Linux PCs are now common enough that a snowball effect is emerging, whereby technical support and "drivers" — which essentially tell programs how to interact with hardware — are much easier to find.

"This really makes the difference," he said.

Linux might benefit from a changing conception of what computers are for. With the rise of Web-based applications that reduce the need for desktop-bound software, more of the action comes through an Internet browser now. The feel of the underlying operating system is less important.

That means Linux consumers can get a lot out of their computers even if they are put off by what many reviewers still cite as Linux's biggest flaw: its uneven user-friendliness. Some tweaks to Linux machines require higher-than-average computing savvy, although this is less of an issue than in the past.

Perhaps more importantly, if the desktop operating system fades further into the background, PC makers could have greater incentive to save money on it by offering Linux. The price that big PC manufacturers pay Microsoft for Windows varies and is not disclosed, but is believed to commonly exceed $50 per PC.

"I'm a big believer in the inevitable forces of economics — they're like glaciers," said Mark Shuttleworth, CEO of Canonical Ltd., which this month is releasing a new version of Ubuntu, a leading version of Linux that can run PCs. "Glaciers carve out terrain. It takes time."

Linux on the desktop doesn't have to take off like crazy to really start to matter. Of the 981 million PCs in existence worldwide last year, 1.7 percent ran Linux, according to Gartner Inc. That sounds paltry. But Apple's Mac operating system accounted for just 2.5 percent, and Apple is considered a significant, influential alternative to Windows.

"Every point is billions of dollars to Microsoft," says Jim Zemlin, head of The Linux Foundation, a consortium devoted to advancing Linux. His group is meeting with top PC makers next week in Austin, Texas, in hopes of accelerating their efforts to sell Linux machines.

The top PC makers have so far treaded carefully. Dell Inc.'s Web site sells Ubuntu computers in a separate section for open-source PCs, out of direct comparison with Windows machines. Dell spokeswoman Anne Camden said the placement reflects the fact that Linux is still not a mainstream consumer product.

Linux is partly hampered by its greatest asset: its widely dispersed nature.

Linux is a core set of code called a kernel; developers build different layers of software on top of it to serve different computing purposes. (Open-source providers make money by charging for add-on services, such as technical support or security upgrades.)

As a result, Linux comes in many flavors, known as distributions, fracturing the push Linux might otherwise make. In fact, some programs written for one distribution don't work in another.

"We haven't figured out to how to federate the marketing of the technology as well as we've figured out how to develop the technology," Zemlin acknowledged.

lancest
April 2nd, 2008, 03:42 PM
Yupp!!!!

SAN FRANCISCO —
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/02/technology/02chip.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

By JOHN MARKOFF
Published: April 2, 2008

Still think Linux is a fluke?
Intel Makes a Push Into Pocket-Size Internet Devices ( mini Linux laptops)
At least 14 PC makers are releasing Linux style laptops Wednesday in Shanghai.

Intel plans to proclaim Wednesday in Shanghai that the next big thing in consumer gadgets will be the "Internet in your pocket."

The challenge for the giant chip maker will be to prove that it is not too late to a market that has rapidly become the hottest spot in the consumer electronics business in a post-PC era.

billgoldberg
April 2nd, 2008, 04:07 PM
A trend I've seen in a lot of recent articles about linux is that they always focus on cheap low-end machines.

This might give people the impression that it isn't suited for high or mid-end computers and that the OS is inferior to "real OSs" like Windows Vista or OSX.

Northsider
April 2nd, 2008, 04:11 PM
good news. I'd love to see linux pc's gain a little ground. I think with vista's woes the timely could be great

aysiu
April 2nd, 2008, 04:16 PM
A trend I've seen in a lot of recent articles about linux is that they always focus on cheap low-end machines.

This might give people the impression that it isn't suited for high or mid-end computers and that the OS is inferior to "real OSs" like Windows Vista or OSX.
It really depends on how the article is written. I don't think this one, for example, gives that impression.

toupeiro
April 2nd, 2008, 04:16 PM
A trend I've seen in a lot of recent articles about linux is that they always focus on cheap low-end machines.

This might give people the impression that it isn't suited for high or mid-end computers and that the OS is inferior to "real OSs" like Windows Vista or OSX.

This is honestly something that urks me a bit as well. At work, I don't run linux on anything lesser than a dual core, dual chip machine with 16GB of RAM and a Quadro FX 1600M. Thats my min. level desktop. Average machine built has hotter CPU's, 32GB of RAM and a Quadro FX 5500. Why do we run these high end boxes on linux? Because for years, Windows could not address 64-bit architecture, and when it finally could, it was less-than-impressive. Only this year is it a real consideration. The other reason why is, For my industry, there are simply no ports for these resource intensive applications to Windows because for the most part, windows cannot handle it. If Windows could scale to the levels linux could, you would see it in a LOT more high end technical workstations and compute clusters running windows than we do. Microsoft has CCS now, but what are you going to run on it??!

I'd be more proned to put XP on lower end hardware than Linux if it can handle it. If its too low for XP to handle, it probably shouldn't be on a store shelf. If its something you already have, consider it a positive quality linux can scale down enough to get more life out of your computer investments where windows would force you to upgrade. But, don't limit a consumer linux offering to low end hardware only...

mali2297
April 2nd, 2008, 04:16 PM
I don't trust anything that has been published April 1. I've been fooled too many times. :---)

Joeb454
April 2nd, 2008, 04:19 PM
A trend I've seen in a lot of recent articles about linux is that they always focus on cheap low-end machines.

This might give people the impression that it isn't suited for high or mid-end computers and that the OS is inferior to "real OSs" like Windows Vista or OSX.

Often the case, but the Yahoo article opens with:


The free Linux operating system handles big tasks like running supercomputers and ATMs.

So surely that would make reader's think twice?

billgoldberg
April 2nd, 2008, 04:25 PM
Often the case, but the Yahoo article opens with:


So surely that would make reader's think twice?

True.

But most articles don't mention that.