Deluge VS Transmission

[verb3k]

Hi,

I'll start by voting and telling my reasons, you do the same:

Deluge pros:
1. A somewhat nice GUI.
2. Good number of features by default.
3. Has a good plugins system.

Deluge cons:
1. The GUI responds slower because it is written in Python.
2. Can get clunky and feel bloated at many times.
3. The handling of the BT protocol isn't developed by the Deluge team, they are using libbittorrent which is written by others thus making them dependent on them.
4. The pre-compiled package is very large compared to other clients.


Transmission pros:
1-Written entirely in C++ which makes it lightning fast.(both the GUI and the core)
2-Has less resource consumption.
3-The pre-compiled package is about 330 KB only !

Transmission cons:
1-Has a very strange GUI.
2-Has very few features by default.
3-The torrent info provided isn't enough and the progress bar isn't readily understood.
4-No plugins or modular system.

The winner in my opinion: Deluge

The GUI and the plugins win me.
I guess I can live with the slow GUI :(
What do you say?

[Changturkey]

I like Transmission, as the interface is so simple, and all the features I need are included. But Deluge is just as good, it is like Utorrent for Linux.

[smartboyathome]

Actually, Transmission now DOES have a plugin system.

[rune0077]

I tried downloading the exact same torrent with both, with the same settings, and Deluge was nearly twice as fast for me. It may just have been a fluke, but I haven't touched Transmission since.

[pt123]

I am a Gnome user, but I use Ktorrent.

Can Deluge ban individual peers for a torrent, so simply like in KTorrent.

[chewearn]

Hey! Where is the "Other" option?

[aktiwers]

I really like them both but use Deluge.

[|2A|N]

I prefer Deluge as well.

[Superkoop]

When I used Windows, I would use utorrent, and now with Linux, I use Deluge.
And so far, I am liking Deluge just as much as utorrent, must be the GUI. ;)
I wasn't too fond of the Transmission interface, and for torrents, I like a nice interface. (and also transmission never would start the .torrent, it just sat there...forever...doing nothing for me.)

[aidanr]

I like both as well. I use Deluge on my desktop and Transmission on my laptop. I think Transmission was the right choice for Hardy default, power users can easily switch to Deluge if they want to.

[phrostbyte]

Deluge isn't slow. Just because something is written in Python means it is slow either. In fact Java sometimes beats C\C++ in benchmarks. Static compilation of C and C++ means that they can't be optimized the way a Java/Python program can with the JIT (just-in-time compiler).

[DoktorSeven]

KTorrent user here. Love the GUI, great speed, plugins, etc.

[Kingsley]

I prefer Deluge. It works right through my university's firewall without additional setting up.

[verb3k]

Hey! Where is the "Other" option?

This thread is a comparison between those 2 exact clients only ^_~

[Shakey_Jake33]

I use Deluge, but I'd like to use something that uses less resources. Unfortunately, Transmission lacks support for DHT, as well as encryption.

[madjr]

i use azureus Vuze

it's big, it's cool.

deluge had a few bugs last time i tried it.

transmission is great by default in hardy.

[HangukMiguk]

I had been using Transmission and liked it.

I previously used KTorrent, but quit because I couldn't use it without it crashing pypanel.

But it sounds like the gripes I had with Transmission are fixed in Deluge, so I'm going to use it and see if it really does better.

[AndyCooll]

I personally prefer Deluge, however unfortunately I've always found it to be buggy. I now use rTorrent on my server instead.

:cool:

[bruce89]

Transmission pros:
1-Written entirely in C++ which makes it lightning fast.(both the GUI and the core)


Not true. The core library (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/libtransmission) is C and the GTK+ interface (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/gtk) is C. The Mac GUI (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/macosx) is Objective-C.

Yes, I'm a pedant.

[WarMonkey]

As of me voting, it is 66.67% to 33.33%, 28 to 14. Exactly 2/3 to 1/3. Amazing!

By the way, I voted transmission.

[mrgnash]

Deluge for me. It seems far more in-tune with the features/simplicity balance adopted by most of the A-Grade Gnome applications. Transmission is a bit sparse for my tastes, and I didn't achieve the same level of performance with it in terms of download speed.

[bruce89]

Transmission as I've written 2 patches for it which were accepted within minutes.

[banjobacon]

I tried downloading the exact same torrent with both, with the same settings, and Deluge was nearly twice as fast for me. It may just have been a fluke, but I haven't touched Transmission since.

I've had the same experience. That's why I prefer Deluge.

[Polygon]

i also tried to download the hardy beta cd via torrent

i tried it with transmission, it was stuck on 'connecting to peers' or something

then i tried it with deluge, it started connecting to peers immediately and i soon had like 400kb/s download rate

i prefer deluge.

not to mention that deluge 6, a complete rewrite of the program is gonna be cool (tagging and a lot of stuff that the utorrent freaks crave)

[BOBSONATOR]

i had been using transmisison on hardy beta, but deluge seems to be much faster, but i think transmission is a great program and has a nice small interface :)

[CaptainCabinet]

Well when I had Windows XP, the only program I used for my torrent needs was Utorrent. Now that I have Linux I only use Deluge. I find it very simple to use and it gets the job done with no fuss.

[Erunno]

I use Deluge, but I'd like to use something that uses less resources. Unfortunately, Transmission lacks support for DHT, as well as encryption.

I'm using Transmission under Mac OS X and it does support encryption there. Since all version shares the same core library I very much doubt that encryption doesn't work with the GTK+ frontend. Too bad about the missing DHT support though, it makes dealing with slow trackers much more bearable.

[bruce89]

I'm using Transmission under Mac OS X and it does support encryption there. Since all version shares the same core library I very much doubt that encryption doesn't work with the GTK+ frontend. Too bad about the missing DHT support though, it makes dealing with slow trackers much more bearable.

Encryption does exist in the GTK+ port.

[myusername]

actually i never found a torrent client anywhere close to utorrent so i run it in wine

[Vadi]

Transmission - right from their website you can tell it's more user friendly. They offer binaries for Macs, while Linux users - have fun compilin'. The deluge website meanwhile offers binaries for several version fo Ubuntu, both 32 and 64bit, and other distributions.

[Polygon]

transmission is now included in ubuntu by default in hardy
and compiling transmission is really easy compared to some other programs =P

[MightyMag]

I while back I tried Deluge but it was to buggy for me so now I use Transmission. But µTorrent owns them all. It's quick, just enough options, and a RSS-auto download thingy that is perfect. No client for *nix comes even close to µTorrent.

[Vadi]

transmission is now included in ubuntu by default in hardy
and compiling transmission is really easy compared to some other programs =P

The point is, you have to compile it. They aren't bothering to make the program easily usable right from the start.

Nevermind it's circumventing all package managers (unless you know of checkinstall).

Oh, and it's user-friendly either. I certainly wouldn't dare say "that program is great, but you have to compile it from source" to a normal computer user.

[Polygon]

the fact is that the developers are most likey NOT using ubuntu, so they cant create packages for it. They rely on volunteers to package it for the various distros. I still wouldent judge them based on them not having a ubuntu package, as a lot of programs dont.

[kripkenstein]

Transmission [...] offer binaries for Macs, while Linux users - have fun compilin'. The deluge website meanwhile offers binaries for several version fo Ubuntu, both 32 and 64bit, and other distributions.

Not surprising, since the original two developers of Deluge are Ubuntu users and in fact met here on Ubuntuforums. You can search the archives here to see the first few messages going "so, I'm thinking about writing a bittorrent client"... ;)

(Note that Deluge was first called gtorrent, so that's the name you'd see talked about back then).

[Lem]

My ISP (and many others in the UK) are now throttling bittorrent bandwidth - Even if you're downloading a perfectly legal linux distro.
Deluge's encryption circumvents this, Transmission sadly doesn't.
Transmission looks a better choice for new torrent users from a simplicity point of view, but I believe UK users will generally get much better downloads on Deluge.

[kaivalagi]

I agree that in some cases Deluge will provide better download rates...but this seems to come at a cost.

I am a transmission user these days as it seems to not get in the way of browsing so much (to me anyway). I have found, with equal download rates from either client on the same torrent, that I get a much poorer performance when browsing the web if deluge is running. Transmission doesn't seem to flood my internet connection with so much traffic.

Am I just dreaming or can anyone second what I am suggesting? Is it merely coincidence that everytime I have trialled each client against the other I get the same results...weather it be a 700MB or 20G download...

Also, I have read somewhere (can't find the page to link to) that the transmission developers are very keen on writing a client strictly to bittorrent standards, whereas a lot of the other clients out there do not confirm. I am not saying Deluge is one of these nonconforming clients as I have no idea of that, just that transmission is written 100% to spec as far as I know.

Edit: If you didn't guess I voted for transmission :)

[Polygon]

if its not written to spec...then the client doesnt work....

also, you may be thinking that it reports incorrect rates, or is 'unfair' with sharing with other peers, like bitcomet for windows.

deluge or transmission isnt one of these.

and if you get poor performance with deluge running..report a bug so its better *rolls eyes*

[bruce89]

The point is, you have to compile it. They aren't bothering to make the program easily usable right from the start.

Tell me when there's a C interpreter available.

[handy]

I use Transmission under OS X 10.5.2, Deluge under Ubuntu 7.10, & Transmission under Arch.

They both have their strengths & weaknesses, they get the job done well for me. I must say that Transmission is being constantly updated @ a surprising rate.

I didn't vote, as I don't think either one is better than the other at this stage, though I would not be surprised to see Transmission pull ahead due to the obviously intense focus on its development.

Time will tell.

[kaivalagi]

if its not written to spec...then the client doesnt work....
I tracked down the discussion I read on the transmission forum, it relates to transmissions handling of multi-trackers for any given torrent.
http://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?t=4105
(http://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?t=4105)
This may explain why transmission can sometimes be slower than some other clients...again it is quite probable that Deluge follows these rules very carefully too.

Regardless of all of this, both clients are great tools. Transmission works out better for me, Deluge for others :)

Handy has said it all really, time will tell...I'd like to see a new poll in 6 months to see how the votes sit then.

[verb3k]

I didn't expect this thread to be so popular ^_^

[Virgofenix]

I agree that in some cases Deluge will provide better download rates...but this seems to come at a cost.

I am a transmission user these days as it seems to not get in the way of browsing so much (to me anyway). I have found, with equal download rates from either client on the same torrent, that I get a much poorer performance when browsing the web if deluge is running. Transmission doesn't seem to flood my internet connection with so much traffic.


Deluge has a plug-in that allows you to set the maximum down/up speed.

[FuturePilot]

Well, I gave Transmission a shot, but it has almost no options. I'll stick with Deluge.

[bruce89]

Well, I gave Transmission a shot, but it has almost no options.

That's the point.

[Vadi]

No, the point is to make life easy for Mac users but screw linux ones over ^^

'cause if you're using Linux, you should have the crapload of developer dependencies installed, not worry about the ease of the apt install system, keep tabs on where is the source code for all the programs you've compiled... and of coruse take your sweet time getting dependencies in, source code, compiling, right? :)

[vishzilla]

I was using Deluge until Hardy came. I have started to like Transmission, simple and efficient client.

[verb3k]

I was using Deluge until Hardy came. I have started to like Transmission, simple and efficient client.

It looks so, but it isn't IMHO.
The handling of torrents is really slow.

[kaivalagi]

It looks so, but it isn't IMHO.
The handling of torrents is really slow.

I take everything back I said before, I have switched back to Deluge, even though transmission is supposedly more conformant to BT standards

Every now and again I was trying to download a torrent with transmission and it was just taking far too long...Deluge really is a lot faster for some torrents...no question about it

[userid]

i just dont get the transmission tray icon, its so ugly!

[Polygon]

its a transmission handle. I dont find it ugly at all.

[jelofson]

I can't get nearly the speed out of transmission as I can with deluge. I set the same port with uPnP in both and transmission doesn't get over 100 Kb/s. I will keep trying though because it is the new gnome default and I would like to support them.

[Lostincyberspace]

I get crappy results now from both so I use transmission to cut down on processor strain.

[vishzilla]

I really get the same results with both of them. I tested with few torrents and the speeds are equally good.

[verb3k]

All those who voted for Deluge, please vote for this idea:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6076/
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6076/image/1/ (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6076/)

[Mateo]

deluge loses due to being somewhat of a resource hog (not to the azureus level, but still). Linkage is actually the most complete while still resource friendly I've used. But it's a pain to install. Have to install from source... not normally a problem, except that linkage as A LOT of dependencies, and the dependencies have a lot of dependencies and... well, you see where I'm going. I managed to get it to install on my laptop a couple of months ago and it was awesome.

[Quillz]

I think Transmission is better.

[hellmet]

I like Transmission, as the interface is so simple, and all the features I need are included. But Deluge is just as good, it is like Utorrent for Linux.
Well said.. I love deluge as much as I love utorrent.
Anybody uses Azureus? The mighty-bloated torrent download manager?

[Rhapsody]

Transmission is a good choice as the default BitTorrent client, as it's fast and simple to use. Exactly what a default should be. Still, I prefer the advanced features of Deluge myself, but I use KDE so KTorrent is my first choice.

[HDave]

I find deluge simple and fast.

Transmission has no peer-blocking capability and no password protection. Without a plug-in architecture, it's not ready for prime time.

[CosminGC]

Deluge downloads for me faster :) Still it's true that it take the internet connection for itself; I mean firefox is working slow.

[Barrucadu]

I never could get Transmission working - it would just hang after checking the files. I'm now using Azureus.

[intense.ego]

Neither. I use KTorrent. Its better than both even on GNOME.

[bigbrovar]

Me to i use ktorrent.. it just works .. and i used it to download a lot of files with out any problem and it is quite fast too .. i once tried deluge but after a while it just crashed and would start again .. when i launched it thru terminal it just gave some error msg about sumtin using a port its suppose to use .. oh well i tried ktorrent it came up told me the same thing but offered to use another port i said "no sh@t" and it just continued its work ..

[aimpau]

Tried downloading the same torrent with Transmission and Deluge:

Deluge: 50+ peers connected
Transmission: 2-5 peers connected


If only Transmission can fix DHT and multi-tracker support, it would blow Deluge away.

I'm currently using Deluge.

[tgrisier]

Neither, I prefer KTorrent.

[Barrucadu]

I never could get Transmission working - it would just hang after checking the files. I'm now using Azureus.

I have just tried Deluge, and wow! It is so fast! Torrents that took weeks to hit 50% in other clients took a few hours to finish in Deluge! My connection speed doesn't seem to have suffered either - well - not so badly that I can tell by browsing the web.

[Masoris]

Transmission is the most stable torrent software since I using torrent, it never crashed, and never be found serious bug. But Deluge sometimes crash, and it takes too many hard disk resource, when rechecking files, that makes my computer very slow. And I found some serious bugs on Deluge plugin. So I changed my torrent software to Transmission.

[ga6ri3l]

Hi,
I've used Deluge a while ago,i must say, that i encountered many difficulties adding new torrents (it took like forever), and browsing the web simultaneously was nearly impossible, even when bandwidth use of deluge was low.

So, I guess i prefer transmission, it's fast enough, not hungry in ressources and the interface is clear, pretty easy to handle.

[guildofghostwriters]

I haven't used either long enough to vote fairly. I used transmission for a while because it was the default with Hardy. It seemed ok but a little slow compared to what I was used to (Bittorrent in windows). Also, it didn't have some features that I think of as essential: download eta; a scheduler so it stops during peak times and I don't breach my isp's fair use policy if I forget to stop it manually; the option of selecting which files I do and don't want in any given torrent. Maybe these things are available if you search but it wasn't/isn't apparent how to enable them so I decided to give deluge a try. Deluge seems faster and all of those features were easy to set up so I plan on sticking with it. I started using it today so I can't comment on crashes/stability except that I haven't had any problems so far.

[Delever]

Deluge, however, it has CPU usage problems.

[andrewsomething]

I'm sure this has been said before, didn't read the entire thread, but here's my two cents...

I personally love Deluge. It's become my favorite torrent client, but I understand the reason for Transmission being the default choice. It's a has IMO a simple and clean interface and has every thing most people need in a client.

Most of all I'm glad they ditched the old choice.

[justin whitaker]

rtorrent!

:)

[visionaire]

KTorrent baby!

::lol::

[Karma_Police]

Also, it didn't have some features that I think of as essential: download eta; a scheduler so it stops during peak times and I don't breach my isp's fair use policy if I forget to stop it manually; the option of selecting which files I do and don't want in any given torrent. Maybe these things are available if you search but it wasn't/isn't apparent how to enable them so I decided to give deluge a try

If you double click the torrent you're downloading you should see the ETA, and you can also choose the files you want, and see some other things like pears you are connected to. I don't think it has a scheduler though.

[MeTylerDurden]

I gave Transmission a good kick and found it to be lacking. ummm without being mean I would say its just slow. Azureus on the other hand would cruise me twice as fast. Transmission I think wastes too much on trying to run too many things at once, thats probly just part of it. Transmission needs an Extreme makeover :)

[bobbocanfly]

I find transmission to be very slow and im amazed Transmission was packages into main instead of Deluge. Especially seeing as Deluge project started on these forums.

Still, I use uTorrent under WINE for torrenting as there is no open-source alternative that gives you that much control in such a good UI, without having to install dozens of plugins.

[zarathustra]

Well said.. I love deluge as much as I love utorrent.
Anybody uses Azureus? The mighty-bloated torrent download manager?


I still prefer Azureus despite the amount of resources it uses since I like the sophistication of the queueing system, which can be important on private trackers.

[verb3k]

Especially seeing as Deluge project started on these forums.


Yeah, that seems rather lame :tongue: especially seeing the majority prefers Deluge over Transmission.

[Kaohuz]

Deluge.
So far it didn't gave ne any problems and I've been using it for a long time now.

[vprasaj]

Deluge. Read here abouth it. I tested it. I love it.

Maby is a little high on CPU, but it is great. I voted for deluge!

[FuturePilot]

Actually I think Transmission is starting to grow on me. :)

[Vadi]

This poll is great :)

[bufsabre666]

deluge would be my program of choice, between its pretty ui and plugin support it would be best, but XWT doesnt allow it on their tracker and they dont seem to be budging considering ive offered to keep them up to date and everything

so i guess im sticking to utorrent under wine, utorrent is best for windows but id prefer a native linux client so i can execute right from the program

but id also like a linux client that isnt ugly like ktorrent ((2.4 or what ever, 3.0 is acctually pretty good looking but i dont want to run too many kde apps over gnome)) or not as big of a ram jockey as azureus ((even on 4gb ram 130mb for a torrent program is horrible))

[Chr0mis]

I like transmission better, because it just does what I expect it to do: download torrents to the specified default location, and be somewhere in the background of my desktop. It's lightweight, barely uses resources. :)

[keiichidono]

I prefer deluge because of the features and the GUI. I don't care how much resources it uses (but they should work on that) as i find it redundant that Transmission doesn't even have DHT yet.

[Kronie]

I juse had my last drop here.. ive been using transmission bit torrent for downloading stuff(legal stuff) from bit torrent, now i switched to deluge. so, here are the 5 reasons u dont ever want to use transmission.

(1) It's "small"
No, i dont mean the size of the window. i mean that the transmission si just a core of the program with some gui.. it feels like some sorf of pre-alfa.
(2) It has a little features
Yes, as i said, deluge feels like a pre alfa. it doesnt have the most needed features. say you want to download files not on your desktop, but say on other partition. you need to go to options, and change the download path. then the next torrent you want to be downloaded on the desktop, well you need to go back to options and switch the path back to the desktop. there is no such thing as different download paths for multiple files!
(3) Its SLOW!
I am downloading a file in deluge right now. the DL speed is 152kB/s. in transmission(i was downloading same file from same torrent 5 minutes ago) it was downloading with 25!
(4) it will trash you with packets
Oh yes it will. basically rest of your connection that transmission is not using(my full speed is 320 kB. so transmission is using 25kB/ and i have 295kB left) will be used for packets. your web surfing experience will be like on good 'ol dial-ups.
(5) Its a trash!
i mean seriously. i am not even sure how did it get to the ubuntu live cd, but that software is EVIL. it will waste your traffic when youre downloading stuff.

i would reccomend you to use deluge torrent. it downloads torrents at their full speed, and it has a lot of features that average user needs.
to get deluge type

sudo apt-get install deluge
if you want to make i your default torrent client, and if you dont want to download torrents(and trashing your desktop with them) you need to do this:

in firefox, when youre downloading a torrent, click on "Open with" ->"other.."
then make a path to your deluge client which is /usr/bin/deluge

[hyper_ch]

better switch to true torrent power using rTorrent ;)

[Kronie]

that will work too i think.. cuz i just started using deluge, and dude, its such a relief T_T i can finally surf the web when i am downloading stuff from torrent..

[hyper_ch]

I just think you did not set the settings right in Transmission ;)

But use the client that works best for you.

[jeffus_il]

I have no problems with Transmission.
Small is always preferable, it has enough features for me to download any torrent I need, as far as I am concerned it is as speedy as any other torrent client, didn't notice any difference, No, it does not effect other net activity (I have five machines on one internet connection) Well... trash, rather be more specific.
If you are on ADSL, did you limit your upload speed?

[hyper_ch]

Transmission small? Some consider it as bloat *g*

Anway, you can also setup QoS on your server - I like espeically the QoS settings that Tomato WRT provides.. it's really neat.

[Kronie]

nope didnt limit anything.. i actually amnaged to ping ubuntuforums.org when i was using each client.
deluge, all defaults-~126ms
transmission, a lil less speed than deluge, all default- ~330ms

[Tomatz]

Azureus for me!

I like every feature possible.

[kpkeerthi]

Keeping it small with simple interfaces and lesser options are some of Transmission's design goals. You can read about it in transmission website.

However, I found it to be as fast as deluge and rtorrent when I tested it lately. Not sure why it is slow for you, though.

[ShodanjoDM]

I've replaced transmission with deluge since it often crashed in my pc. But I can't say that it's a bad choice to include in the Ubuntu CD since apparently it works just fine for many others. And then, for comparison purpose, I think Even Debian Lenny has it in its default install.

All I can say that it doesn't work as expected in my machine.

[Sef]

Moved to Community Cafe.

[jokoon]

Deluge's ui looks quite good compared to other utorrent imitaions like ktorrent
webui works with a greasemonkey script, I find it quite unapropriate to say in the frontpage it has a webui when you need something else to make it work, especially something that kind of firefox addon...

[hyper_ch]

I find it quite unapropriate to say in the frontpage it has a webui when you need something else to make it work, especially something that kind of firefox addon...
Why? I think it's apropriate... there are webuis for it ;)

[Tomatz]

Deluge's ui looks quite good compared to other utorrent imitaions like ktorrent
webui works with a greasemonkey script, I find it quite unapropriate to say in the frontpage it has a webui when you need something else to make it work, especially something that kind of firefox addon...

How the hell is ktorrent an imitation of utorrent. If anything utorrent is an imitation of an old version of azureus :(

[hyper_ch]

each one copies from each one...

except the inventors of the BT protocol... but they did probably also copy ideas and stuff from other p2p protocols.... then it boils down to napster... and I'm sure napster did also copy some stuff from somewhere...

[jokoon]

@hyper_ch its not entirely built in deluge, thats why I think it shouldn't appear as a feature in the frontpage...
@tomatz I don't care, I just miss utorrent, lightweight with just-what-i-need type of interface. Great that wine is now 1.0

[robertchahine]

ktorrent is fast and amazing

[Tomatz]

@hyper_ch its not entirely built in deluge, thats why I think it shouldn't appear as a feature in the frontpage...
@tomatz I don't care, I just miss utorrent, lightweight with just-what-i-need type of interface. Great that wine is now 1.0

Utorrent has always worked in wine. It comes with its own cut down c library so it runs real nice.

If you like utorrent youll love azureus.



sudo apt-get install azureus

You can uninstall it if you dont like it ;)

[quanumphaze]

each one copies from each one...

except the inventors of the BT protocol... but they did probably also copy ideas and stuff from other p2p protocols.... then it boils down to napster... and I'm sure napster did also copy some stuff from somewhere...

Progress is a beautiful thing :)

I actually like Ktorrent, and I'm using the crippled one on OpenSUSE (no DHC for legal reasons or something)

[rune0077]

nope didnt limit anything.. i actually amnaged to ping ubuntuforums.org when i was using each client.
deluge, all defaults-~126ms
transmission, a lil less speed than deluge, all default- ~330ms

You probably did anyway. The first time you run Deluge, it asks you for your web-connection speed, and the default settings is then automagically configured from that. So "default" settings in Deluge varies depending on the answer you gave it, and you have actually limited your upload/download speeds without even doing it manually. You can easily set the same limits with Transmission, which should allow you to browse the net as you can while using Deluge.

That being said, I have still found Deluge to be much faster. With the exact same settings, Deluge were nearly twice as fast as Transmission for me.

[Kronie]

hey, guys, when i was on windows, i had utorrent as my torrent client. its awesome, ive been using it for almost a year, is there a utorrent forlinux? or maybe some sort of "alike" programs? i know there is a possibility to run it under wine, but i really want to have a client that is fully linux compatible..

[Chilli Bob]

Transmission rocks for me!! Deluge never worked on my PC at all. Transmission worked first time. Sure there's not as many features, but I couldn't be bothered learning how to use them anyway. As long as it downloads from Jamendo, I'm happy.

[Tomatz]

hey, guys, when i was on windows, i had utorrent as my torrent client. its awesome, ive been using it for almost a year, is there a utorrent forlinux? or maybe some sort of "alike" programs? i know there is a possibility to run it under wine, but i really want to have a client that is fully linux compatible..

read the previous page ;)

[jokoon]

I smell a troll somewhere, is that me ?
Isn't utorrent using windows library ?
Azureus ? Sorry, I'm feeling blue enough. Too heavy.
kde torrent will always looks ugly to me, when are the oxygen icon coming up ? Are they released alerady ?

[Tomatz]

I smell a troll somewhere, is that me ?
Isn't utorrent using windows library ?
Azureus ? Sorry, I'm feeling blue enough. Too heavy.
kde torrent will always looks ugly to me, when are the oxygen icon coming up ? Are they released already ?

Are you on something.


Utorrent uses a cut down c++ library designed specifically for the client by the developer all contained in the utorrent .exe. This is why it runs so well in wine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ΜTorrent


µTorrent is shipped as a single stand-alone compressed executable file, and does not require installation, though an installer is available for trivial installation. Recent versions have included the ability to install themselves on first run. Small executable size is achieved by avoiding the use of many libraries, notably the C++ standard library and stream facilities, and creating substitutes written specifically for the program. The executable is then compressed to roughly half of its compiled and linked size using UPX.

Do your research before making accusations :mad:

[Joeb454]

I'd say that technically uTorrent is Linux Compatible - it lists Wine as a supported install platform :)

[jokoon]

Sorry if you felt I accused somebody, I put an interrogation mark, meaning I had a doubt...
Don't be so bitter :(

[Tomatz]

Sorry if you felt I accused somebody, I put an interrogation mark, meaning I had a doubt...
Don't be so bitter :(

Its ok i forgive you ;)

[kpkeerthi]

if (user == "me") {

purge("wine");

bliss = install("better.alternative", Type.NATIVE_LINUX_APPL);

enjoy(bliss);

} else {

neverMind();

}

[geoken]

Deluge's ui looks quite good compared to other utorrent imitaions like ktorrent
webui works with a greasemonkey script, I find it quite unapropriate to say in the frontpage it has a webui when you need something else to make it work, especially something that kind of firefox addon...

What are you talking about? I initiate downloads from work via Deluge's web UI with IE6.

I think you're getting confused because there is a firefox addon that puts a deluge icon beside every .torrent file and you can click this icon to que up that torrent via the webUI. This addon is simply an added convinience. It's not necessary. You can que up any torrent in any browser by simply copying the .torrent's URL, navigating to your webUI, and pasting that URL in the new torrent dialog.

[Tomatz]

if (user == "me") {

Purge("wine");

Bliss = Install("better.alternative", type.native_linux_appl);

Enjoy(bliss);

} else {

Nevermind();

}



+1 ;)

[K.Mandla]

Comparative discussions of one software package over another can probably be confined to a single thread. Merged, and might be moved to Recurring Discussions in the near future, since this is hardly a new topic.

[verb3k]

Comparative discussions of one software package over another can probably be confined to a single thread. Merged, and might be moved to Recurring Discussions in the near future, since this is hardly a new topic.

Japan lost the AFC Asian cup 2007 :popcorn:

[Spalatum]

I used to use Deluge. Now since I switched to 8.04 I had to try Transmission. Transmission is lightweight and isn't so powerful as Deluge. Deluge was faster but it was a bit buggy and used to crash every now and then. I'm sticking with transmission for now.

[hyper_ch]

if you want to go lightweight use rTorrent ;)

[Tom--d]

Is it me who i just using the Download Bittorrent Client in Hardy :s

Its very fast for me. Out runs Transmission and Deluge but I guess there are no features on xD
I can change the port tho which is always good :)

But for me, I hardely use bittorrent. Maybe for download the new Ubuntu, thats all.

So I guess I'm fine with what I go :)

[billgoldberg]

I tried downloading the exact same torrent with both, with the same settings, and Deluge was nearly twice as fast for me. It may just have been a fluke, but I haven't touched Transmission since.

I don't know why, but when I download somethingTransmission always runs at the top speed my internet connection can handle (600-700 kb/sec).

That's from private trackers I might mention.

[u-slayer]

Deluge should be the default for Ubuntu Itchy Iguana

[syxbit]

I agree with most of the posts here.
deluge has more options, but has never been as stable for me as transmission.
most users (including me) just want to download a torrent. they really don't need tons of settings.

i agree with transmission being default

[Odisej]

Well, I've used both and for me Deluge delivers while Transmission is a bit sluggish. I do download quite a lot and like to seed what I have on my hard disk for as long as possible. These would be my pros/cons for both applications:

DELUGE (v. 0.5.3)

Pro:
- faster downloads (uses my broadband to maximum)
- better UI
- more options

Cons:
- still not uTorrent (not a good one, I agree, but cannot come up with a better one)

TRANSMISSION (up to version 1.33)

Pro:
- easy to use
- built-in
- does the job reliably

Cons:
- slow (if I dl-ed a file it took me one day to finish while Deluge does it same size, cca. 400MB, in half-hour! Same connection speeds, mind you)
- takes more resources (other applications are less responsive, also uses more processor power - must be due to never ending verification of larger files)

Connection is 10/10 so it should be ok and in these conditions Deluge is far better to use. At least for me. Some techies may have an explanation for this I can just say what the end results are.

[bruce89]

I agree with most of the posts here.
deluge has more options, but has never been as stable for me as transmission.


People love forgetting what the GNOME way is.

[SuperSonic4]

Deluge, there's no point installing a GNOME app on my KDE desktop

[bruce89]

Deluge, there's no point installing a GNOME app on my KDE desktop

Neither Transmission nor Deluge are in GNOME.

[b3n87]

Neither Transmission nor Deluge are in GNOME.

I think what he meant was that their both based on GTK

[bruce89]

I think what he meant was that their both based on GTK

So then how would Deluge be better?

[Polygon]

he meant that transmission follows the gnome way more since its more simple and does what it does, downloads a torrent file...without having a butt load of options for the user to deal with

but as we have seen through gnome-btdownload, more options is better, especially for a torrent program.

i personally hate the interface of transmission, and it downloads a lot slower then deluge for some reason.

[bruce89]

but as we have seen through gnome-btdownload, more options is better, especially for a torrent program.


I could argue then that there is something wrong with a protocol which can have that many options applied to it.

[Polygon]

for most users, the defaults are fine. but due to the fact that ISP's love to throttle torrents, you might need to change the default ports, you might need to encrypt the stream, etc.

the protocol itself doesn't need very many options, but the extra options programs like deluge include are very useful for the people who need them, and since there are a ton of people using bittorent (since it is arguably one of the best and most popular p2p sharing protocols) its better to have sane defaults for people who don't know what they are doing, but have the option to change them for people who do.

[bruce89]

for most users, the defaults are fine. but due to the fact that ISP's love to throttle torrents, you might need to change the default ports, you might need to encrypt the stream, etc.

Aside from those 2, there are no other useful options. In fact, encryption should never be off.

[Polygon]

what about upload limits? i live with a family of 5 so if i torrent at my full upload speed no one else in the house can even use the internet cuase its so slow

and upload ratios? i set mine to 2.0 and the program automatically stops it, thats useful

just because you don't need it doesn't means someone else won't, there is a reason why utorrent is the most popular bittorent client out there. Id rather have more options then follow the 'gnome' standard, because deluge is not a gnome project, and never will be. They still think gnome-btdownload is good enough.

[drvid]

Transmission does have peer blocking and DHT now...

But I prefer it mostly because it also runs natively on OS X !!! And it's fast and stable there too... even on G4!

Transmission's UI also has a more elegant design I believe, even when running many Torrents.

Deluge is just another Azureus/uTorrent knock off.

[Polygon]

Transmission does have peer blocking and DHT now...

But I prefer it mostly because it also runs natively on OS X !!! And it's fast and stable there too... even on G4!

Transmission's UI also has a more elegant design I believe, even when running many Torrents.

Deluge is just another Azureus/uTorrent knock off.

as utorrent is the most popular bittorent client out there, is it really that bad that its trying to appeal to utorrent users?

[epidemiks]

I am a Gnome user, but I use Ktorrent.


+1
I like the scheduler and the ability to add new trackers. Shame its pretty ugly though.

[Maupertus]

Everytime I do a new Ubuntu install I start of using the programs that come with it. I just want to make sure that I'm not using crappy software, or software that could be better, just because I'm used to it. So I've used Transmission while using Hardy, and liked a couple of things, it's light and simple, sits in the background and does what it has to do.

But there are just a lot of small things that I miss that were available in Deluge. Deluge gives a little bit more of direct control and it's interface feels more natural or at least more logical in use. (Transmission can do most things I always did in Deluge, but in a more roundabout way)

So I voted for deluge, and as soon as this torrent is done, I'm changing over again.

P.S. I've seen Transmission work in a Max OSX enviroment and have to say that if I was running a mac, I would use Transmission.
Can anyone show me a link or something were I can read why Ubuntu switched to T instead of D?

[Paqman]

#
Transmission cons:
1-Has a very strange GUI.


I think it has a fantastic GUI. The main thing you do with a torrent client is add new torrents to it, and the GUI is designed with that simple fact in mind



2-Has very few features by default.


What features do you really need? You can add torrents, set up/download parameters and use encryption. Anything after that is just fiddling about.

[PartisanEntity]

I started off using Deluge, but when I discovered Transmission I stuck to it. It is much more to my liking; light weight and has just the features that I need.

[Arup]

Deluge........it feels solid and runs solid, I am using the one from getdeb compiled for Intrepid x64, compared to the built in Transmission which neither has blocklist not the ability to change ports. It only allows UPnP. Deluge UI is also quite similar to uTorrent.

[0micron]

You must be using an old version of Transmission - perhaps the one in the official repositories - because Transmission does have both of the features you mention.

[linuxguymarshall]

I can't use either. My dad keeps the ports blocked for torrents because he thinks I will pirate things. I don't know why he thinks that. Everything good for Linux I either A) Already own B)Can get as freeware/open source or C) I dont want

[fredknex]

deluge...running my same torrent, same opened ports, same max connections settings etc as transmission, delgude is averageing 500-600kib/s instead of 30-50 of transmission. this is with forced encryption and blocklists enabled on both.
good job on deluges part, wins over utorrent for me.

[gnomeuser]

I generally like the idea of a simple UI like Transmission but the last time I tried it I couldn't even tell it to stop seeding at 1:1 which is pitiful.

Deluge is nice, I use it currently but it is not the most stable thing in the world. The UI is encumbered by a confusing decision to be in between transmission and azereus with a horrible result. It's not as powerful (and scary) as the latter but it's not clean either. I do like the management of seeding, ratio and time limits. Handling of new torrents is nice.

My favorite though is MonoTorrent (and Monsoon), the idea of having a dbus capable library to integrate torrent support where we need it like Banshee. Monsoon needs a few features to be really nice and it could be cleaner but overall it's very nice to use and it feels great. I feel this would be the right choice to build an integrated solution around. Sad part, it's not in Ubuntu just yet.

[bryonak]

Another strong contender for the "best" client would be qBittorrent... I find it superior to Deluge, especially since it's coded in C++
For now, it has it's own repository, but it'll be included in Jaunty.

Transmission is more in the simple and lightweight category, so IMO rather comparable to Opera's client.

So what I'd like to see is a poll between qBittorrent, Deluge and KTorrent.
One could throw in Azureus/Vuze and µTorrent 1.6, though both have arguments against them.

[tjwoosta]

Transmission cons:
1-Has a very strange GUI.
2-Has very few features by default.
3-The torrent info provided isn't enough and the progress bar isn't readily understood.
4-No plugins or modular system.

1. strange how? i think strange is in the eye of the beholder

2. ok i can see that, but in my mind thats not such a bad thing (simplicity)

3.
a. what more info can you possibly need
(just right click the torrent and choose "details" and you will see all the same stuff that you see with deluge)

b. how is the progress bar not readily understood ? (i understand it just fine)

4. what plugins do you need?

[Tomatz]

Neither are a patch on azureus!

[jkristheking]

hmm... i was using deluge but recently it deleted all my torrent files and now i can't seed anything but the torrents i just added. so i switched to transmission and it isn't too bad.

too bad i can't use vuze any more (one o my torrent sites banned it because it reported bad data)

[mriedel]

I'm going to try out Deluge now. Just found out Transmission manages to fully load both my cpu cores when it has a few larger torrents and starts to "verify local data". Would've been a good idea to run that verification algo in a "slightly" lower priority thread, especially when you write the GUI in C++ in the first place ;)

Edit: fully load as in nothing else runs anymore. It literally took me 5 minutes to start Eclipse while Transmission was verifying. Not only Transmission's gui (that alone would be bad) but the whole OS went unresponsive. That just plain bad software engineering.

[bruce89]

I'm going to try out Deluge now. Just found out Transmission manages to fully load both my cpu cores when it has a few larger torrents and starts to "verify local data". Would've been a good idea to run that verification algo in a "slightly" lower priority thread, especially when you write the GUI in C++ in the first place ;)

Transmission is actually written in C.

[mriedel]

Transmission is actually written in C.

I was just picking up what the thread creator said. Not that it matters.

Update on deluge:

Deluge does a much better job at threading than Transmission (not too hard to achieve), but apparently they share a common goal: Delay downloads as long as possible. Deluge insists on integrity checking like 15 gigabyte-size torrents at once so that none of them actually starts downloading. Too bad there's no "both are crap" option ;)

Update2 on deluge:

Apparently it doesn't only check 15 torrents at once, it also checks the ones that are queued for download after all the others. Dunno what I should call that but an epic failure...

[thegreenblob]

I've been using Deluge for awhile now and am quite happy with it. It has all of the features I need. Before that I was using KTorrent, but it was slow on my gnome based system.

Transmission is a little too simple for me and my torrents seem to go slower for some reason. Though, I do like how it checks if the port is open right in the client instead of clicking a link.

[bruce89]

I was just picking up what the thread creator said. Not that it matters.

I thought I pointed it out before:


Not true. The core library (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/libtransmission) is C and the GTK+ interface (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/gtk) is C. The Mac GUI (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/macosx) is Objective-C.

Yes, I'm a pedant.

I'll shut up now.

[jkristheking]

so basicaly they both need more work

[fuzzyk.k]

i like a simple interface ,prefer transmission

[andrewabc]

so basicaly they both need more work

If the people here are commenting on what is included in intrepid, then yes they need work.
In Jaunty they will both have newer versions that are much better.

[Tibuda]

I was just picking up what the thread creator said. Not that it matters.

Update on deluge:

Deluge does a much better job at threading than Transmission (not too hard to achieve), but apparently they share a common goal: Delay downloads as long as possible. Deluge insists on integrity checking like 15 gigabyte-size torrents at once so that none of them actually starts downloading. Too bad there's no "both are crap" option ;)

Update2 on deluge:

Apparently it doesn't only check 15 torrents at once, it also checks the ones that are queued for download after all the others. Dunno what I should call that but an epic failure...

Have you reported these issues?
http://trac.transmissionbt.com/newticket
http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/newticket

[-jay-]

when i was on windows i used uttorent i tired transmission did not like it switched to deluge couldnt be any happier

[[h2o]]

Deluge, since it has a daemon mode so that I can have the daemon running on my media box and add and monitor torrents with the GTK-GUI from my workstation. Very slick!

[Master Darko]

But Deluge is just as good, it is like Utorrent for Linux.

One of my main reasons for using Deluge

[jono2009]

Tried Transmission, found it have speeds all over the place. Installed Deluged, speed at maxim, best downloader I've ever used.

[woaiwojia]

I prefer Deluge as well. Deluge is faster than transission for me, sometimes transmissions can't get peers, but deluge can download more fast.

[shinjan]

Pls tell me the settings you use in Deluge...
I am getting much lesser speed in deluge....maybe settings are not correct...

[zerin]

I like Transmission becasue so easy to use, i like the speeds i get from my slow DSL, but sometimes it just won't initially connect, but that's easily solved by pausing the otrrent and resuming. I haven't tried anything else yet, but will soon, but for now, i just really like transmission due to the fact that it really doesn't slow my browsing speed much while downloading.

[MasterNetra]

For me, Deluge, it encrypts both incoming and outgoing, good for when you need the security (sensitive data and such). More secure then direct upload/download...

[stobbsm]

I prefer transmission, as I run a headless server for my torrenting, transmission just works where-as the latest version of deluge would not download anything.

[giddyup306]

I've used both enough to make an educated opinion. Someone told me that Deluge was faster so I tried it. It is no faster than Transmission. One thing that I did notice is that Deluge is harder to use. Not super hard, but when you have 50+ torrents at a time it makes managing them much more difficult. When I first started using Deluge I was like "this is awesome, why would the default be Transmission?". After a few hours I realized all its defaults, and after the downloads completed, I switched back to Transmission. The first thing I noticed about Transmission is that it's light. I like that. There are a lot more options with Deluge, but to be honest I never used any of them. The one feature that I like that Deluge has that Transmission doesn't is that when you hit the x it doesn't close the program. Rather it puts it in the upper left hand corner. This keeps my computer neat. Oh well.

Really it just comes down to personal preference.



For me, Deluge, it encrypts both incoming and outgoing, good for when you need the security (sensitive data and such). More secure then direct upload/download...


Do you have a link?

[MasterNetra]

I've used both enough to make an educated opinion. Someone told me that Deluge was faster so I tried it. It is no faster than Transmission. One thing that I did notice is that Deluge is harder to use. Not super hard, but when you have 50+ torrents at a time it makes managing them much more difficult. When I first started using Deluge I was like "this is awesome, why would the default be Transmission?". After a few hours I realized all its defaults, and after the downloads completed, I switched back to Transmission. The first thing I noticed about Transmission is that it's light. I like that. There are a lot more options with Deluge, but to be honest I never used any of them. The one feature that I like that Deluge has that Transmission doesn't is that when you hit the x it doesn't close the program. Rather it puts it in the upper left hand corner. This keeps my computer neat. Oh well.

Really it just comes down to personal preference.





Do you have a link?

No just experience and logic. And I knew a person who used transmission to download less then legit software and got warned and had his/her connection temporarily blocked by the internet service provider and was using transmission, but it stop happening after switching to deluge and using its full encrypting abilities.

I of course do not condone using less-then-legit software but such a thing could be useful for transferring sensitive data, just a thought. Granted its not something most people have to deal with and transmission would be a more ideal choice for them. But deluge has its advantages.

[trustnobody13]

When i first moved to Ubuntu i was using Transmission and apart from the fact that the download speeds were a little slow i never really had a problem with it,But then a friend of mine suggested trying Deluge and since then i haven't used anything else....

[Spice Weasel]

Deluge by far. Transmission makes it annoying when you're torrenting lots at once with the massive bars, and having to manually right click to add peers because it randomly decides to stop is annoying.

[liquider]

I know, old thread.
But we have to mention qbittorrent (http://www.qbittorrent.org/): it's got the style/power of Deluge/uTorrent and the speed of (if not surpassing) Transmission.
Through downloading 2GB video, qbittorrent used the same amount of RAM as deluge did and just half the CPU deluge usually does (instead of ~15%, 5-7%).
I have a new favourite! :-)

[nothingspecial]

I know, old thread.
But we have to mention qbittorrent (http://www.qbittorrent.org/)

And then we have to close it.