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liquidfunk
March 26th, 2008, 09:29 PM
From a day of almost complete boredom, I dug out my PSP.

The question I'm asking, is, can you install Linux on the PSP? And if so, how, and what distribution?
dmitrijledkov
March 26th, 2008, 09:33 PM
Step 1: go to google.com
Step 2: type Linux PSP
Step 3: click search
Step 4: read all 2,360,000
Step 5: during the step 4 you will know everything you need =D

Good luck ;)
wolfen69
March 26th, 2008, 09:59 PM
highly doubtful. unless you can compile your own custom kernel.
liquidfunk
March 26th, 2008, 10:01 PM
But saying that the PSP has practically the same hardware as the PS2. So I'm sure it can be done?
mips
March 26th, 2008, 11:45 PM
But saying that the PSP has practically the same hardware as the PS2. So I'm sure it can be done?

I was under the impression that the PSP is based on the PS1?
liquidfunk
March 26th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Aha thats where I can prove you wrong.

You see, the only real difference in terms of specifications is that the Emotion Engine that the PS2 has, has a clock speed of 294Mhz. The PSP however has one with a top speed of 333Mhz. (Although I believe it's 'under-clocked' to increase battery life).

They both have 32Mb RAM. The reasons why it doesn't play games that have the graphics of PS2 games is mainly due to battery life. Playing a PS2 game on the PSP would allow it to last around 20mins or so. Plus I'm sure it would have to keep cool some how, and there is no fan on the PSP.

Thats what a BTEC Games Development course teaches you! Huzzah!

:lolflag:
dogeatery
March 27th, 2008, 04:33 AM
what if you ran the OS off of the Memory Stick?
liquidfunk
March 27th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Thats what I'm thinking, but how would you choose it to boot from the Memory Stick?

Would have been cool if they made it an option like on the PS3.
Daimyo
April 12th, 2008, 01:01 AM
If any one gets the psps with the ubuntu system runing i dare them to try installing skype in the ubuntu.. im thinking of course in psp-1001 FAT
dogeatery
April 12th, 2008, 01:19 AM
If someone gets ubuntu running on a psp, I'll fall further into debt to buy one, especially if skype can run on it...
wolfen69
April 12th, 2008, 01:57 AM
If someone gets ubuntu running on a psp, I'll fall further into debt to buy one, especially if skype can run on it...

exactly. i would wipe mine out in a heartbeat. i think the chances are pretty much nil.
dogeatery
April 12th, 2008, 03:06 AM
Sony has multiple personality disorder, I swear... they invite Linux users to the PS2/PS3 but discourage homebrew apps and hacks on PSP... nevermind that these apps pretty much make their hardware BETTER and indicate the type of features users ACTUALLY WANT

If Ubuntu is too much for a memory stick, Puppy Linux would be ideal...
init1
April 12th, 2008, 04:13 AM
Last I checked, there are no kernels the PSP. There is however a port of boches that'll run Linux images.
The process is difficult for early firmwares, and might be imposible for the later ones.
cacing
April 26th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Im googling arround a few day ago, if I'm not mistake, there are a linux that can run in PSP it call uClinux, It's a very light linux. I just hope Ubuntu can run on PSP in the future :lolflag:
3rdalbum
April 27th, 2008, 01:42 PM
If any one gets the psps with the ubuntu system runing i dare them to try installing skype in the ubuntu.. im thinking of course in psp-1001 FAT

The PSP uses a MIPS processor, not an i386, so neither Ubuntu nor Skype will run on it without being specially ported to the architecture.
Fzang
April 27th, 2008, 08:47 PM
Skype, however, is already ported to the PSP slim
Nerdriot
November 8th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Well guys, break out (or buy) your PSPs. Here's what you were looking for...

http://dl.qj.net/index.php?pg=19&src=linux&catid=106&go.x=0&go.y=0

http://dl.qj.net/Ubuntu-7.10-PSP-Edition-v1.0-PSP-Homebrew-Applications/pg/12/fid/17006/catid/151

Both of these require a custom firmware. If you're not sure how to get custom firmware, I'll gladly explain. :)

Enjoy!
wolfen69
November 8th, 2008, 11:03 PM
thanks for the info, but i'm not going to screw with mine. i always update to the latest official firmware and like it that way. i don't need a brick.
Izek
November 9th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Well guys, break out (or buy) your PSPs. Here's what you were looking for...

http://dl.qj.net/index.php?pg=19&src=linux&catid=106&go.x=0&go.y=0

http://dl.qj.net/Ubuntu-7.10-PSP-Edition-v1.0-PSP-Homebrew-Applications/pg/12/fid/17006/catid/151

Both of these require a custom firmware. If you're not sure how to get custom firmware, I'll gladly explain. :)

Enjoy!

As much as I'd like to try, 7zip commandline can't extract prx or pbp correctly, they get extracted as EMPTY FILES.
juanmoreno92
November 10th, 2008, 02:36 AM
Ok lets imagine there is a distro, whether it be Ubuntu or anything else, that was able to run on the PSP what would you do on it? Seems the limitations of the PSP would kill the joy of having it. IMO it would be a waste of my memory stick space.
m3tatr0n
November 10th, 2008, 02:45 AM
Could you run DSL from the memory stick? That way you wouldn't have to boot from the memory stick. I've never used a PSP before so I'm not sure if that makes sense. But I can run DSL off a thumbdrive in Windows if I choose so I think it might be similar.
bwhite82
November 10th, 2008, 02:59 AM
Ok lets imagine there is a distro, whether it be Ubuntu or anything else, that was able to run on the PSP what would you do on it? Seems the limitations of the PSP would kill the joy of having it. IMO it would be a waste of my memory stick space.

Actually, seeing as it has built-in wifi capabilities, I say there is quite a bit you could do on it. The problem is finding a good interface. Having a gnome desktop scaled to that size isn't gonna be very usable..
Nerdriot
November 12th, 2008, 01:06 AM
As much as I'd like to try, 7zip commandline can't extract prx or pbp correctly, they get extracted as EMPTY FILES.

I should have tested them first. That's totally my fault...

I ended up finding a version of uClinux for 4.01-m33 CFW, which works great. I got it here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?1la7hoc3bba

I've only tested it with 4.01-m33 custom firmware, so I can't say for sure that it works for any other version, but I would assume it would, especially 1.50.
Nerdriot
November 12th, 2008, 01:07 AM
Could you run DSL from the memory stick? That way you wouldn't have to boot from the memory stick. I've never used a PSP before so I'm not sure if that makes sense. But I can run DSL off a thumbdrive in Windows if I choose so I think it might be similar.

Sadly, no. I was looking into that myself. It hasn't been done YET, but that's not to say that it won't eventually be done.

Right now, they have a "shell" version of Ubuntu, which requires custom firmware, but I haven't tried it (others say it's nice), but it's kind of limited.

Also, there's the uClinux, which I use. I like it just fine... ;)
zmjjmz
November 12th, 2008, 02:17 AM
Without wifi capabilities and/or X, it's not really going to take off.
Dreamlocked
November 12th, 2008, 03:28 AM
Seems like you can run Windows 95 on it too, according to http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs/
I'm sure it would be an awesome experience to have a BSOD on a PSP.
zmjjmz
November 12th, 2008, 04:47 AM
Seems like you can run Windows 95 on it too, according to http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs/
I'm sure it would be an awesome experience to have a BSOD on a PSP.

Does it have internets? Because imagine running K-Meleon on that....
Jengajam2
November 12th, 2008, 02:47 PM
bochs just boots an image, and it can't access the wi-fi; besides the psp port of DOSbox runs a lot faster on 95/98.

The best hope for running linux on the psp would be to use the flash drives for important functions and start up, or with CFW use a plugin that could boot it up.The desktop environment would have to be custom for low memory and size, once there's a driver found for wifi, the web browser would probably be simple, like Dillo.
kaldor
November 12th, 2008, 04:42 PM
It can be done. I have heard of people that have ran Linux on their PSP before. I am not sure how, just telling you that it can be done. Just search around.
Nerdriot
November 13th, 2008, 02:50 AM
It can be done. I have heard of people that have ran Linux on their PSP before. I am not sure how, just telling you that it can be done. Just search around.

I'm sure it can be done in some form or fashion. I run a ported version of Linux on my Nintendo DS (uClinux/DSLinux), and a ported version on my PSP as well (same: uClinux). It's just terminal-based, but I spend more time in terminal anyway. I rather enjoy it ;)
Tonie168
November 24th, 2008, 05:10 PM
The PSP uses a MIPS processor, not an i386, so neither Ubuntu nor Skype will run on it without being specially ported to the architecture.

If you're right, and think you are, then you can install Debian 4.0 with xfce on a PSP. The only question is, how? Since I'm a total newbie to Linux, I don't have any idea, but maybe some of you have?

What I want is Ubuntu MID on my PSP, so maybe I can combine that with Debian 4.0 for MIPS and then I have an extremely portable pc, on which I can read my documents while traveling around.
Daveil
November 24th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Linux on a PSP has been over done. I'd rather put linux on a Wii.
zmjjmz
November 26th, 2008, 05:24 AM
Linux on a PSP has been over done. I'd rather put linux on a Wii.

Already doable
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_apps/Wii_Linux
I can't wait for X on that thing, especially if they get the IR bar working. Holy crap will it be awesome.


Anyways, compared to the Wii, Linux on the PSP has been underdone.
LinuxGuy1234
November 26th, 2008, 08:39 PM
We may one day, write a game to boot Linux on the PSP! Here's how it works:
1. User starts the game "Linux".
2. The PSP starts the "Linux" game.
3. The "Linux" game must now load its savefile (the HD).
4. The "Linux" game must now make a virtual machine to "emulate" a MIPS processor.
5. In that VM, the "Linux" game must start Linux itself.
6. The modified Linux kernel boots.
7. User is happy.

This must be approved to be a official way for Sony to boot Linux!

But for now, no, unless you use a modified kernel and a modified PSP firmware.
Newuser1111
November 26th, 2008, 09:17 PM
From a day of almost complete boredom, I dug out my PSP.

The question I'm asking, is, can you install Linux on the PSP? And if so, how, and what distribution?Is this good enough?
http://jacksonm88.googlepages.com/linuxonpsp.htm
smartboyathome
November 26th, 2008, 09:50 PM
If you're right, and think you are, then you can install Debian 4.0 with xfce on a PSP. The only question is, how? Since I'm a total newbie to Linux, I don't have any idea, but maybe some of you have?

What I want is Ubuntu MID on my PSP, so maybe I can combine that with Debian 4.0 for MIPS and then I have an extremely portable pc, on which I can read my documents while traveling around.

You would have to recompile Ubuntu for the PSP, which would basically involve Linux from Scratch and then building debian packages for each piece of software you install.
rakan21
December 1st, 2008, 04:06 PM
I don't believe its possible. You can't run Ubuntu, but I'm sure you can run Linux on it. After all I ****** up my PSP XMB system when I was updating it. So now I have a device without an OS. I know that if I'm going to build one it has to be somewhere around between 25-26 MB. Another interesting thing is that Sony has there motherboard built into there battery. You can open up your battery pack with knife and check it out. If you want to boot Linux onto a PSP I'm pretty sure you have to edit it to be able to run a .iso file. After all a PS3 can run Linux ubuntu. I have done so before I have it as my server at home. But I can also switch back to the Sony XMB to play games. Well we could try to run it off a CD or memory stick. After all you can now install ubuntu onto a USB. You just need to build it to be bootable off of Sony's XMB. As LinuxGuy 1234 had suggested. You could try to work something out with Sony. Make a live CD or Something.
cammin
December 1st, 2008, 04:44 PM
Another interesting thing is that Sony has there motherboard built into there battery. You can open up your battery pack with knife and check it out.

It has a some electronics in the battery, like laptops do, that give the PSP information on battery status and a device ID of the battery.
TheDougg
December 3rd, 2008, 03:46 PM
I'm sure it would be an awesome experience to have a BSOD on a PSP.
:D

Thats Why we run Linux. So far I only got it to crash once, on purpose. No Problems under 'ahem' "Normal" use.
KuroYoma
December 31st, 2008, 08:56 PM
It has a some electronics in the battery, like laptops do, that give the PSP information on battery status and a device ID of the battery.

Actually, to an extent, rakan21 is correct. Bricking:( a PSP is no longer the death:P of a PSP. Just make, build, or buy a Pandora Battery:popcorn:. This forces the PSP into recovery mode:D and if the battery were just a power source than this would not work. I am not saying the entirety of the motherboard is in the battery but I am saying the battery is defiantly more.:KS
cammin
January 1st, 2009, 02:35 PM
Actually, to an extent, rakan21 is correct. Bricking:( a PSP is no longer the death:P of a PSP. Just make, build, or buy a Pandora Battery:popcorn:. This forces the PSP into recovery mode:D and if the battery were just a power source than this would not work. I am not saying the entirety of the motherboard is in the battery but I am saying the battery is defiantly more.:KS

A pandora battery has a device ID of all 0's, the PSP reads this before loading the firmware and goes into recovery mode.