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BWF89
October 8th, 2005, 08:26 PM
In preparing to self-release our new album, we thought long and hard about how best to use the internet. Given our unusual history, and a long-held sense that the practice now being demonized by the music biz as “illegal” file sharing can be a friend to the independent musician, we have decided to embrace the indisputable fact of music in the 21st century, put our money where our mouth is, and make our record, Little By Little…, available for download via Bittorrent, and at our website. We’re not streaming, or offering 30-second song samples, or annoying you with digital rights management software; we’re putting up the whole record, for free, forever. Full stop. Please help yourself; if you like it, please share with friends.
You can dowload the album in both MP3 and OGG formats.
http://www.harveydanger.com/downloads/

Don't have BitTorrent? Get it here:
http://bittornado.com/

drizek
October 8th, 2005, 08:48 PM
cool, they have oggs too. im downloading it now, hope its good. i wonder if theyll ever put flacs up there too.

Lovechild
October 8th, 2005, 09:10 PM
see I would love to contribute directly to them, not because I like the music (I haven't heard it yet) but they openly support sharing and open formats.

I suspect that if I give them 5 bucks for this album, that makes them more money than if I go out and buy the album (if I can even find it) - I like that, cutting out the middle man, reducing the RIAAs argument that we are stealing from starving artists not fat cat money grubbing record execs.

Now my problem is that my paypal account has reached it's limit and all I have is a VISA which doesn't qualify for expanded use.

For now I guess I'll have to give them bandwidth, but I think it's a great concept - someone should /. them, that might boost the revenue in terms of contributions.

drizek
October 8th, 2005, 09:24 PM
it downloaded really quickly(i think i was the only one getting the ogg torrent, lol) and the music is pretty good. its not hard rock like some of my other music, but its good music to listen to while studying and stuff. i really hope this catches on. also, they will be selling their cd in retail stores and online for 12 bucks.

i was suprised to read on their site that they say they are only doing this to make more money, not because they have any moral problems with the RIAA.

skoal
October 8th, 2005, 10:27 PM
You know, I really gotta applaud these artists here. I read their reasoning (http://www.harveydanger.com/press/why.php).

The first thought which popped into my mind while contemplating their "experiment" (as they call it), is that you're looking at a revolutionary concept in marketization of artistic ideas (expressed through music in this case). This is good. I think in the end it will only encourage more quality per record. I've seen many such "record deals" by the big wigs where tracks are laid down just to fill some quota and time deadline. Spaghetti incident anyone? I think I've used that example in that past, but it's a good case study as it relates to this topic (for those of us who've followed Gnus N' Roses religiously)...

\\//_

Buffalo Soldier
October 8th, 2005, 10:55 PM
I suspect that if I give them 5 bucks for this album, that makes them more money than if I go out and buy the album...I agree. I hope they do well and perhaps this will lead to more musicians offering their music in an open format.

Downloading the bittorent ogg. Quite fast... 50+KB/s.

Besides spreading the word about this site what are other ways I cab support this band?

zenwhen
October 8th, 2005, 11:49 PM
This is pretty cool of them, and the album isnt bad. I just listened to it while cleaning my house. :)

Lovechild
October 9th, 2005, 12:56 AM
Might I note that I love "Cream and bastards rise".. it's just awesome.

Buffalo Soldier
October 9th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Does anyone know is there any other band/singer that's doing this?

Lovechild
October 9th, 2005, 01:52 AM
I hope someone with xiph will do a press release commenting Harvey Danger on their choice of Ogg Vorbis as the distribution format. We need some more PR for open formats and those who use them.

Same goes for the EFF and their filesharing campaign, again this is a win for them - thus they should praise HD.

eas
October 9th, 2005, 02:14 AM
cool, they have oggs too. im downloading it now, hope its good. i wonder if theyll ever put flacs up there too.

I encoded the files and set up the webserver and tracker for the band. We discussed doing a lossless release, but decided against it for various reasons.


I suspect that if I give them 5 bucks for this album, that makes them more money than if I go out and buy the album (if I can even find it) - I like that, cutting out the middle man, reducing the RIAAs argument that we are stealing from starving artists not fat cat money grubbing record execs.

For now I guess I'll have to give them bandwidth, but I think it's a great concept - someone should /. them, that might boost the revenue in terms of contributions.

Actually, the band is selling the album direct on their site. If you bought it that way, they'd make more than $5. It's also available from some record stores, but the record store and distributor get their cut in that case.

The site was slashdotted last week, then farked. The server's 100Mbit connection was pretty swamped for the better part of a day as a result.


Besides spreading the word about this site what are other ways I cab support this band?

You can play the album for friends you think will like it. Then play it for them again a day or two later, then tell then where they can get it.

There are also donations on their site and they sell the CD and tshirts in their online store.

Not related to this forum in any way, but I just checked status on the webserver and I have to say, people who use download managers that open 5+ connections to a web server look really silly when they can't even pull down more 32KB/s in the first place.

Glad to hear people are liking the album.

MetalMusicAddict
October 9th, 2005, 02:19 AM
I love that their doing this. I think alot of people will be looking at this experiment. I dont think anyone else this notable has done this.

The recording industry MUST change their business model. Maybe it will be the artists that will do it. ;)

DJ_Max
October 9th, 2005, 02:30 AM
I agree. I hope they do well and perhaps this will lead to more musicians offering their music in an open format.

Downloading the bittorent ogg. Quite fast... 50+KB/s.

Besides spreading the word about this site what are other ways I cab support this band?
I'm getting 380KB/s :)

Downloading the OGG format of course. I'm really glad and surprised that they not only decided to release their album for free, but supporting a FOSS format. :razz:

Though I never heard of them, I'll be sure to give them my ears.


The recording industry MUST change their business model. Maybe it will be the artists that will do it.
I have to agree, recently in class, a student made the comment that had me thinking.


Who in this modern world actually buys real CD's?

Sadly, I had to agree with him. Regardless of the price of music CD's, people will continue to either download the music, or buy them from their local bootlegger.

Something needs to be done.

MetalMusicAddict
October 9th, 2005, 04:49 AM
I have to agree, recently in class, a student made the comment that had me thinking.


Who in this modern world actually buys real CD's?

Sadly, I had to agree with him. Regardless of the price of music CD's, people will continue to either download the music, or buy them from their local bootlegger.

Something needs to be done.
I have over 1000 CDs. We need to more directly support artists. Im not actually for changing the format (I quite like CDs) more for changing the way their business is structured.

I know MANY indie artists making a living selling their own CDs and merch. Granted, as things are they wont every be a "Britney" but they dont have to have real jobs.

drizek
October 9th, 2005, 05:27 AM
eas, how did you find out about this forum? are you an ubuntu user or did you just get a lot of hits from here and decide to check it out?

TravisNewman
October 9th, 2005, 06:28 AM
oooohhh yeah. I've loved Harvey Danger ever since I heard Flagpole Sitta back in high school. This is amazing.

jbrader
October 9th, 2005, 07:22 AM
This is great. I'm realy happy that a fairly well known band (I live in Tacoma, WA and they're pretty well known around here anyway) is doing this and I hope it catches on. It's just unfortunate that I can't stand their music.

zenrox
October 9th, 2005, 07:54 AM
this rocks especaly since its in ogg
but thats just a bonus
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :razz:
and i ant never hurd of them and i live 200 miles from tacoma hmmm
but still happy it made it here thats frureshure
some one should send them a note to whare these posts are so thay can see the raving's about there
music

eas
October 9th, 2005, 06:35 PM
eas, how did you find out about this forum? are you an ubuntu user or did you just get a lot of hits from here and decide to check it out?
I saw this in our referrer stats and it caught my eye because I'm using ubuntu on my home server.

MetalMusicAddict
October 9th, 2005, 06:41 PM
I'm using ubuntu on my home server.

Nice sir. Enjoy it here.

Hows it been as a server for you? I was told Debian would be a better choice.

YourSurrogateGod
October 9th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Are his songs any good?

GazaM
October 9th, 2005, 07:46 PM
Are his songs any good?
Harvey Danger is a band. I had never heard of them before this and I have listened to the album (in ogg vorbis of course ;) ) non-stop today, it is very good (although this is personal taste obviously). I really aprreciate this kind of thing, and the fact that they put up ogg vorbis format as well as mp3 makes me aprreciate it more.