Middle School Ubuntu Classroom --New Page

[Prospero2006]

Hello all,
I've been working on a page that promotes the program I work with that uses Linux at the middle school level. I thought I'd link it up here because the community has been so supportive of my efforts.

Check it out:

http://www.neisd.net/imak/computerlabpage

Thanks,

[billgoldberg]

A great way to promote ubuntu and linux in general.

However I have 2 "complaints" (for lack of a better word, English isn't my first language)

- the website looks bad and for some reason I can scroll down and the navigation bar (iframe?) scrolls down and the content says where it is.

- KDE is 'in my opinion' to complicated, gnome looks better, is easier, and more likable.

2 thumbs up.

I had no idea something like apt-catcher existed, but hey, my network consists of 2 pc's.

[Prospero2006]

What browser are you using?

[axionet]

*reads*

Its about time someone teaches these kids that Winblows is not the answer to everything. In the real world... Linux Servers power 90 percent of the internet. All blue chip companies use some form of *nix. Keep up the good work. Wish I had you as a teacher.

BTW - The site works fine for me. But it is still ugly.

I am using Mozilla SeaMonkey.

[Prospero2006]

You know, I was thinking about scrapping the whole layout and adopting a cut and paste css type deal. What exactly do you find 'ugly' about it?

[zmjjmz]

Having the same problem with the 2nd poster in Opera...
Looks great though!

[schauerlich]

Having the same problem with the 2nd poster in Opera...
Looks great though!

The same in Safari.

I know, I know. I have Firefox too.

[jken146]

Got the same problem in Epiphany & Firefox 2

[Prospero2006]

Thanks for the help,
Looks like I need to overhaul it.

tyvm!

[Meatshield]

Reason your site looks bad: Iframes. They never look good on modern sites. Frames can be useful for like online manuals, but for the most part should be avoided in the land of CSS and template designs.

From having my mother (who knows nothing of Linux) use Gnome and KDE, she said that Gnome was easier. The reason behind this is that KDE relies heavily on the K menu to do just about everything, where Ubuntu distributes the things needed by a single menu into several tree menus, actually making them easier to find.

In KDE 4 it's even worse because of the one-window idea that is far too much like Vista, leaving you clicking back to get back to the main menu. Gnome is far more logical in its organization, making it easier for new users to get around with.

[Teber]

Reason your site looks bad: Iframes. They never look good on modern sites. Frames can be useful for like online manuals, but for the most part should be avoided in the land of CSS and template designs.


i agree. i looked at websites with frames, one of them made by me. they worked very smoothly using IE and Maxthon. Firefox however, did not support the frames as intended. i too abandoned frames. frames are not the time and effort savers they're given out to be. just do what the professional webdesigners do: check out other websites to get ideas.

i would be be somewhat weird to promote linux on a website that is not fully compatible with linux...

[fluteflute]

I'd really like to show this page to my school but there currently seems to be two sets of navigation tools - one on the right and one on the top.

[Prospero2006]

First, a big thank you to those of you that pointed out my website's browser incompatibility. I've changed the site and I hope that for presentation's sake the information will be more accessible.

http://www.neisd.net/imak/computerlabpage/

http://www.neisd.net/imak/computerlabpage/history.html
(I like the history page the best :')

Some of you mentioned that you felt Gnome would be a better choice for my lab, but the question I have it this:

Does gnome have something similar to kiosktool?
It's really important that we are able to lock down the desktop and prevent changes like wallpaper and basic settings.


Any suggestions there?

Thanks a million!

[Kimm]

The site looks great!
The animation could need some work though, it looks pixelated.

Nice work!

[Teber]

well done! i really love the new design!

[billgoldberg]

First, a big thank you to those of you that pointed out my website's browser incompatibility. I've changed the site and I hope that for presentation's sake the information will be more accessible.

http://www.neisd.net/imak/computerlabpage/

http://www.neisd.net/imak/computerlabpage/history.html
(I like the history page the best :')

Some of you mentioned that you felt Gnome would be a better choice for my lab, but the question I have it this:

Does gnome have something similar to kiosktool?
It's really important that we are able to lock down the desktop and prevent changes like wallpaper and basic settings.


Any suggestions there?

Thanks a million!

You can use kde apps in gnome without any problems.

But i'm confident there is a similar app gnome based, I however have no need for it thus never searched for one.

And the website looks about a 1000 times better than it did before. (but I would drop the flash)

[Prospero2006]

You mentioned that KDE apps run fine in gnome, which is correct, but the kiosktool doesn't provide the same functionality in GNOME.
The kids can completely rewire the desktop if I give them a gnome login choice. I'd love to open that up, but I'd need some security in place that will prevent changes.

[billgoldberg]

Being the nice guy that I am, I did some research and found that gnome has something similar.

Take a look at this article from linux.com

http://www.linux.com/feature/62060

It's about a gnome tool called pessulus.

[Prospero2006]

Being the nice guy that I am, I did some research and found that gnome has something similar.

Take a look at this article from linux.com

http://www.linux.com/feature/62060

It's about a gnome tool called pessulus.

I appreciate that tip. I actually just got to work. I'll install it, give it a beta test on a few machines, and report back.

Thanks for the tip.
Edit:
This particular tool isn't robust enough. It leaves way too much open. I'm digging around a bit, but it looks like disabling commands manually might be the only real
solution provided based on my needs.