Another Huge Failure about to happen

[KingBahamut]

"There will be a Service Pack 3 for Windows XP," Bernard Ourghanlian, technical and security director at Microsoft France, confirmed, revealing that Microsoft's OS is set for another major update.
My questions about this are such.....

1. What programs will not be supported on this service pack?

2. What registry keys will be turned on or off be default?

3. What additional components will be added and turned on by default?

4. Will they attempt to address the piracy issue again in this SP?

5. Will it make a cup of coffee for me?

[Ubunted]

1: Too many.

2: See 1.

3: See 2.

4: Yes, and will again fail miserably with a hack posted on /. even before its release

5: Yes, SP3 will happily provide you with a cup of Microsoft Coffee. Just deposit an initial $69.99 service fee for the dispenser rental and support charges. Cup rentals are also provided at an additional $24.99 each. Be sure to install Microsoft Coffee Service Pack 1 when you recieve your dispenser however, as it adds a patch to cover the hole exploited by the "E.Bol@" virus discovered five months ago and patched last week.

Seriously though, it seems (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22947) that SP3 will be an update only in the sense that Windows 2000 Update Rollup 1 was. All the bugfixes jammed into one huge download. Wether or not MS will see fit to include the .NET framework this time is another story...

[jeremy]

The trouble with Micro$oft Virtual Coffee Version 2, is that it just doesn't smell right!

[Ubunted]

That's all right, for an additional $299.99, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer will urinate in your Microsoft Coffee, providing a taste of that authentic Microsoft experience you've come to know and love.

[kleeman]

That's all right, for an additional $299.99, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer will urinate in your Microsoft Coffee, providing a taste of that authentic Microsoft experience you've come to know and love.
Ahh Friday! I can just imagine the video with monkey boy going one step further than a sweaty shirt and a thrown office chair.

[benplaut]

That's all right, for an additional $299.99, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer will urinate in your Microsoft Coffee, providing a taste of that authentic Microsoft experience you've come to know and love.

for once, that sounds pretty accurate :rolleyes:

on a side note, how long til it hits /., and microsoft.com gets /.ed? :D

[KingBahamut]

I dont know that MS has been /.'ed or have they?

[endy]

I doubt it's possible considering they have massively used services like msn search and hotmail. It's just a guess but I would think they deal with more traffic per day that slashdot could ever direct.

[Kvark]

Eww, thats just disgusting, after reading Ubunted's comment I'm very glad I perfer tea.

Couldn't you just have said Microsoft Coffee(TM) will be full of viruses, the Visual Cup(TM) framework will be full of security holes and the Cup Holder(TM) feature will be unstable?

[bob_c_b]

Eww, thats just disgusting, after reading Ubunted's comment I'm very glad I perfer tea.
Couldn't you just have said Microsoft Coffee(TM) will be full of viruses, the Visual Cup(TM) framework will be full of security holes and the Cup Holder(TM) feature will be unstable?

Sure, he could have done that, but then I would not have burst into loud laughter when I read his post. Too quiet around this office today, thanks gusy.

As to staying on topic, I'm excited about this, after SP2 and the work it took I see this as one more opportunity to discuss OSS solutions and Linux at work.

[bored2k]

How is this another huge failure about to happen? As far as I'm concerned, the more the Service Packs the more upgraded and less dangerous an Operating System is. I'm sure we have all had our issues with Microsoft Windows' ones, but I can't say I didn't like its Service Pack 2 at all. Or is it a joke my sometimes boring nature avoids me from understanding ?

[Ubunted]

Eww, thats just disgusting, after reading Ubunted's comment I'm very glad I perfer tea.

Couldn't you just have said Microsoft Coffee(TM) will be full of viruses, the Visual Cup(TM) framework will be full of security holes and the Cup Holder(TM) feature will be unstable?
I could have gone a lot farther very easily heh heh.

[Muhammad]

How is this another huge failure about to happen? As far as I'm concerned, the more the Service Packs the more upgraded and less dangerous an Operating System is. I'm sure we have all had our issues with Microsoft Windows' ones, but I can't say I didn't like its Service Pack 2 at all. Or is it a joke my sometimes boring nature avoids me from understanding ?


Final Fantasy VII PC version doesn't work on Microsoft Windows Xp Service Pack 2 for one.

[KingBahamut]

Applications that are known to take a hit when using XPSP2 -

List from MS -- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=884130

AOL Toolbar 1.13.2 AOL 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.aol.com (http://www.aol.com) The Information Bar blocks access to the tool's edit boxes.

PhotoShop CS 8.0 Adobe 64-bit (NX) http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html) Program installs, but will not start.

BlackICE 3.6 crj Internet Security Systems 64-bit (NX) http://www.iss.net (http://www.iss.net) When you use this program, you may receive a Stop error that causes the program to quit.

BootSkin All Stardock 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.stardock.com (http://www.stardock.com) When you restart your computer during the Windows XP SP2 Setup program, a Stop error occurs. For more information, see the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[ln];873159 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5Bln%5D;873159).

Command Antivirus 4.9 Authentium 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.authentium.com (http://www.authentium.com) This program does not start.

Encyclopedia Britannica 2000 Deluxe 1 Encyclopedia Britannica 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.encyclopediabritannica.com (http://www.encyclopediabritannica.com) Java rendering does not function after you install this program.

eTrust EZ Armor 1 Computer Associates 64-bit (NX) http://www.ca.com (http://www.ca.com) The EZ Firewall part of this program generates a Stop error during installation.

Freedom Force 1 Electronic Arts 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.ea.com (http://www.ea.com) When you start the program, a message appears that points you to the following EA Web site: http://techsupport.ea.com.

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (German) 4.5 and 5.0 Kaspersky Labs 64-bit (NX) http://www.kaspersky.com (http://www.kaspersky.com) Real-Time scanning does not work in version 4.5 or 5.0. The vendor's Web site has available product updates that are designed to address this issue.

Live Motion 1 Adobe 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.adobe.com (http://www.adobe.com) This program displays various errors that prevent typical operation.

MapSend DirectRoute 1.0 Magellan 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.magellangps.com (http://www.magellangps.com) When you start the program, a message appears that points you to the following Web site: http://www.magellangps.com/en/support.

MPEGcraft DVD All Canopus 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) (http://www.canopus.com) When you try to save an MPEG file, you receive a "Failed to Edit" error, and the file cannot be saved.

NBA LIVE 2000 1 Electronic Arts 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.ea.com (http://www.ea.com) This program does not start in certain systems.

NOD32 for Microsoft Windows 2.000.11 Eset 64-bit (NX) http://www.eset.com (http://www.eset.com) When this program is started on an AMD64-based computer, all network connectivity is lost. To resolve this issue, upgrade to NOD32 version 2.12.2 or higher.

Norman Personal Firewall 1.4 Norman 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.norman.com (http://www.norman.com) Norman Personal
Firewall Assistant will not start.

Norman Personal Firewall 1.4 Norman 64-bit (NX) (http://www.norman.com) After this program installs and restarts, the desktop does not load correctly

Norton AntiVirus 2003 Symantec 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.symantec.com (http://www.symantec.com) At system startup, Scheduled Tasks in Norton AntiVirus 2003 does not automatically scan.

Norton SystemWorks 2003 - GoBack Personal Edition 2003 Symantec 64-bit (NX) http://www.symantec.com (http://www.symantec.com) If you install this program, you receive the "DRIVER_OR_IRQ_NOT_EQUAL" error every time your computer starts.

Norton SystemWorks 2004 - GoBack32 2004 Symantec 64-bit (NX) http://www.symantec.com (http://www.symantec.com) If you install this program, you receive the "DRIVER_OR_IRQ_NOT_EQUAL" error every time your computer starts.

OmniPage Pro 11 ScanSoft 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.scansoft.com (http://www.scansoft.com) When you remove this program, the uninstall program does not finish.

Outpost Firewall 2.1 Agnitum 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.agnitum.com (http://www.agnitum.com ) When you run this program, you may receive a Stop error and have to restart your computer.

PaperPort Deluxe 8 ScanSoft 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.scansoft.com (http://www.scansoft.com) Setup or uninstall programs do not finish.

Pinnacle Studio 9 Pinnacle Systems 64-bit (NX) http://www.pinnaclesys.com (http://www.pinnaclesys.com) If you install this program, you receive a "Data Execution Prevention" error whenever an MPEG file is accessed.

Rational ClearCase 2003 IBM 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.ibm.com (http://www.ibm.com) When you restart your computer during the Windows XP SP2 Setup program, a Stop error occurs.

Roboword Pro (Japanese) 6 TechnoCraft 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.technocraft.co.jp/english/pagehelp.html (http://www.technocraft.co.jp/english/pagehelp.html) When you use the Search Station tool, this program closes prematurely.

Semagic 1.3.9.6 Live Journal 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.livejournal.com (http://www.livejournal.com) This program quits after you enter logon information.

Style XP 2 TGTSoft 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.tgtsoft.com (http://www.tgtsoft.com) An updated version of this program can be found on the TGTSoft Web site.

Virtual PC 2004 Microsoft 32-bit http://www.microsoft.com (http://www.microsoft.com) When you run a Windows XP SP2-based virtual machine, it will perform slowly compared to a Windows XP SP1-based virtual machine.

VirusSecurity 2004 (Japanese) 2004 Sourcenext 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.sourcenext.com (http://www.sourcenext.com) Real Time Monitor does not start.

Window-Eyes Professional 4.2 GW Micro 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.gwmicro.com (http://www.gwmicro.com) Multiple error messages occur during program installation. Visit the GW Micro Web site for information about an upgraded version of the program.

WinRoute Pro 4.25 Kerio 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.kerio.com (http://www.kerio.com) When you start this program, a message appears that points you to the following Web site: http://www.kerio.com.

WordPerfect Office 11 Corel 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.corel.com (http://www.corel.com) WordPerfect Office Update cannot update the program. Users may download WordPerfect Office 11 Service Pack 2 to correct this issue. For more information, visit the following Corel Web site: http://www.corel.com/support (http://www.corel.com/support).

ZoneAlarm 3.7 Zone Labs 64-bit (NX) http://www.zonelabs.com (http://www.zonelabs.com) If you install this program, you receive a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" error every time your computer starts.

ZoneAlarm 4 Zone Labs 64-bit (NX) http://www.zonelabs.com (http://www.zonelabs.com) If you install this program, you receive a Stop error every time your computer starts.

ZoneAlarm 4.5x Zone Labs 64-bit (NX) http://www.zonelabs.com (http://www.zonelabs.com) This program does not install. If you try to install it, you receive an "8e" Stop error every time your computer starts.

ZoneAlarm 5.0.590 Zone Labs 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.zonelabs.com (http://www.zonelabs.com) When you try to remove ZoneAlarm, you receive a Stop error message or your computer restarts before the uninstall program finishes.

[xequence]

I use SP1, because it was the only version able to fit on my 650 MB cds :P Whatever I happen to use, I will.

They had a beta of SP3 leaked onto torrentspy I think

[Ubunted]

Leak nothing. (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4754) Just a collection of hotfixes for now, anyway.

[darkmatter]

The official Windows XP SP 3 catch phrase:

"More Bloat for Your Boat";)

[Goober]

Pssh, those Service pack's are a waste of my valuable Download Limit. I have much better things to do then bother with DLing them. SP2 honestly made things worse for me when I installed it. I don't even want to consider that SP3 will do.

[bored2k]

Final Fantasy VII PC version doesn't work on Microsoft Windows Xp Service Pack 2 for one.
I don't care about those applications Bahamut mentioned, no Final Fantasy VII ?! :-|
At least we have the PSX Emulated.

[Ubunted]

Pssh, those Service pack's are a waste of my valuable Download Limit. I have much better things to do...

Like ditching the Telus bandwidth nazis and moving to Shaw? :D

[poofyhairguy]

At least we have the PSX Emulated.

In Linux!

(that goodness for that Pete guy who makes all the pluggins!)

[bored2k]

In Linux!

(that goodness for that Pete guy who makes all the pluggins!)
I don't think my crappy video card would support it so I guess I would have to stick to Windows' ePSX :-S.

[darkoptix]

Like ditching the Telus bandwidth nazis and moving to Shaw? :D
telus has crappy bandwidth limits, shaw is better, but still not great.
The best place is china and others, where they have no bandwidth limits.

[Omnios]

think there trying to copy there view on Linux "Barely works"

[Ubunted]

telus has crappy bandwidth limits, shaw is better, but still not great.
The best place is china and others, where they have no bandwidth limits.
Maybe, but Shaw won't ding you for going 11GB on a 10GB month. In fact you could do 100 and they wouldn't say much.

[Muhammad]

I don't care about those applications Bahamut mentioned, no Final Fantasy VII ?! :-|
At least we have the PSX Emulated.

Yep, thank God for the PSX Emulators, that I played both FFVII and FFIX on it (ePSXe), but still Supported > Emulated. ;)

[mstlyevil]

I personally had no issues when I upgraded to SP2. From what I can gather, SP3 is mainly going to add some features that are going to be native to Win Vista (formerly known as longhorn) to the Win XP desktop like the graphics engine Avalon.

[bob_c_b]

I personally had no issues when I upgraded to SP2. From what I can gather, SP3 is mainly going to add some features that are going to be native to Win Vista (formerly known as longhorn) to the Win XP desktop like the graphics engine Avalon.

Don't forget all the "upgraded" media stuff that will include the latest DRM, not cool.

As far as SP2 goes, I have had no personal issues with it but the company I consult at right now has an in-house app (very old program) that gets utterly destroyed by SP2. They are working on a re-write but I mentioned SP3 in a meeting the other day and the devs looked like they were gonna' vomit. Luckily they are receptive to OSS solutions and I am making some headway moving some functions from Win to Linux, time will tell.