Microsoft now admits to being evil.

[Dzenhax]

I could not believe this, but check out:

http://thesource.ofallevil.com/en/us/default.aspx

I thought this was a hoax, but a friend tells me this site is registered by Microsoft. Does anybody know about this?

[science4sail]

I suspect that it's just a mirror of the actual site

[p_quarles]

me@me:~$ host thesource.ofallevil.com
thesource.ofallevil.com is an alias for www.microsoft.com.
www.microsoft.com is an alias for toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net is an alias for g.www.ms.akadns.net.
g.www.ms.akadns.net is an alias for lb1.www.ms.akadns.net.
lb1.www.ms.akadns.net has address 207.46.19.254
lb1.www.ms.akadns.net has address 207.46.19.190
lb1.www.ms.akadns.net has address 207.46.192.254
lb1.www.ms.akadns.net has address 207.46.193.254
Looks like your friend is right.

[Ebuntor]

I could not believe this, but check out:

http://thesource.ofallevil.com/en/us/default.aspx

I thought this was a hoax, but a friend tells me this site is registered by Microsoft. Does anybody know about this?

Ok, that is just...........weird. Yeah it is indeed registered by Microsoft.
http://whois.domaintools.com/207.46.193.254
Unless there's some way to fool a whois request.

[RAV TUX]

quite odd.

[Ebuntor]

I just threw every whois website at it I'm familiar with, it really is an actual MS website, they even use the correct the SSL certificate.

If this isn't a hoax why would they do this? Some kind of weird joke? Must be the worst marketing strategy I have ever seen.

[FuturePilot]

:shock::shock::shock:

[Washer]

hahahahaha wow, ok. Microsoft bought a sense of humor.

(some of you could use one too. It's funny, laugh.)

[drphilngood]

hahahahaha wow, ok. Microsoft bought a sense of humor.

(some of you could use one too. It's funny, laugh.)

you´re one of them, aren´t you?!?

rofl

[koleoptero]

:shock::shock::shock:

+1

[Ebuntor]

hahahahaha wow, ok. Microsoft bought a sense of humor.

(some of you could use one too. It's funny, laugh.)

Yeah it's hilarious. ;) Seriously, like I said in my previous post if that really is a joke it must be the worst marketing ever. No normal company makes "jokes" like these when you're investing millions in marketing. It's suicide as far as I know.

[FuturePilot]

Yeah it's hilarious. ;) Seriously, like I said in my previous post if that really is a joke it must be the worst marketing ever. No normal company makes "jokes" like these when you're investing millions in marketing. It's suicide as far as I know.

Exactly.

[BlueToast]

damier of SpexHost (http://www.spexhost.com/) says differently:

[19:15] <@damier> Name Servers:
[19:15] <@damier> ns3.temns.com
[19:15] <@damier> ns4.temns.com
[19:15] <@damier> Those are not microsoft nameservers.
[19:15] <@damier> Administrative Contact:
[19:15] <@damier> Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
[19:15] <@damier> Whois Agent ()
[19:15] <@damier> +1.4252740657
[19:15] <@damier> Fax: +1.4256960234
[19:15] <@damier> Nor is that microsoft's details.

However, I think damier is right and wrong. I did my own all-in-one whois, which you can look at at http://www.dnstools.com/?lookup=on&wwwhois=on&arin=on&checkp=on&portNum=80&ping=on&all=on&target=thesource.ofallevil.com&submit=Get+Info or just right below.

thesource.ofallevil.com resolves to 207.46.192.254

Domain Whois Results:


=-=-=-=

Registration Service Provided By: Enom, Inc
Contact: CustomerSupport@enom.com
Visit: www.enom.com

Domain name: ofallevil.com

Administrative Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent (bjgcysrq@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O ofallevil.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Technical Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent (bjgcysrq@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O ofallevil.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent (bjgcysrq@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O ofallevil.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns3.temns.com
ns4.temns.com

Creation date: 05 Jun 2002 23:16:41
Expiration date: 05 Jun 2008 23:16:41
=-=-=-=
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purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or
related to a domain name registration record. We make this information
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IP Whois Results:

Connecting to whois.arin.net...


OrgName: Microsoft Corp
OrgID: MSFT
Address: One Microsoft Way
City: Redmond
StateProv: WA
PostalCode: 98052
Country: US

NetRange: 207.46.0.0 - 207.46.255.255
CIDR: 207.46.0.0/16
NetName: MICROSOFT-GLOBAL-NET
NetHandle: NET-207-46-0-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS5.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS2.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS3.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS4.MSFT.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 1997-03-31
Updated: 2004-12-09

RTechHandle: ZM39-ARIN
RTechName: Microsoft
RTechPhone: +1-425-882-8080
RTechEmail: noc@microsoft.com

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE231-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@microsoft.com

OrgAbuseHandle: HOTMA-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Hotmail Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@hotmail.com

OrgAbuseHandle: MSNAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: MSN ABUSE
OrgAbusePhone: +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@msn.com

OrgNOCHandle: ZM23-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Microsoft Corporation
OrgNOCPhone: +1-425-882-8080
OrgNOCEmail: noc@microsoft.com

OrgTechHandle: MSFTP-ARIN
OrgTechName: MSFT-POC
OrgTechPhone: +1-425-882-8080
OrgTechEmail: iprrms@microsoft.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-02-13 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Checking Port 80...

Port 80 is open and accepting connections.

Ping Results:

Ping server http://thesource.ofallevil.com (<3 ms)
Site link http://thesource.ofallevil.com OK!

damier replies to the above.

[19:20] <@damier> lol
[19:20] <@damier> You haven't heard of a forwarder?

[LaRoza]

There must be a penguin in their server room under cover.

[FuturePilot]

There must be a penguin in their server room under cover.

:lolflag:

[johndc]

If this isn't a hoax why would they do this? Some kind of weird joke? Must be the worst marketing strategy I have ever seen.

it's called self-deprecating humor.

The best way to marginalize all the "M$" conspiracy nuts is to turn what they believe into a joke.



And you know what?

It works.

Chock one up to the ol' Iron Heel.

[Chilli Bob]

Either it's been changed, or I'm getting a very different page to you guys. I just see a regular page promoting Vista. Does anyone have a screenshot of the "evil"?

[LaRoza]

Either it's been changed, or I'm getting a very different page to you guys. I just see a regular page promoting Vista. Does anyone have a screenshot of the "evil"?

Look at the URI

[hhhhhx]

Either it's been changed, or I'm getting a very different page to you guys. I just see a regular page promoting Vista. Does anyone have a screenshot of the "evil"?Look at the URI
same happed to me..... i felt very stupid there for a sec. :lolflag:

[Chilli Bob]

Look at the URI


D'OH!!!!! Didn't even look at that, just clicked the link.

[kool_kat_os]

:shock::shock::shock:

+2

[vishzilla]

:shock: WoW!

[SonicSteve]

OK can someone explain in plain English what this is exactly? How it got there, who did it, etc? I'm not a website, webtools, whois expert.

[hhhhhx]

OK can someone explain in plain English what this is exactly? How it got there, who did it, etc? I'm not a website, webtools, whois expert.
we dont know who made the site, but we do know that the domain is hosted under microsoft servers

[p_quarles]

The funny thing is, if you do a:

whois microsoft.com
you get a lot of very strange and unflattering aliases. There's either something strange going on here, or I just don't get it.

[cprofitt]

Pretty simple the domain...

ofallevil.com is registered by ENOM, Inc.

http://www.enom.com/

The identity of who has really registered the domain is protected by whoisprivacyprotect.com or is them; I am not sure which.

the site http://thesource.ofallevil.com goes to the domain ofallevil and to the 'server' assigned to thesource. That seems to forward/redirect the request to Microsoft as all the images are actually hosted on real Microsoft servers.

The Netblock owner is Everyones Internet and the server at ofallevil is running Apache/2.0.59 (CentOS) on Linux.

[FuturePilot]

The funny thing is, if you do a:

whois microsoft.com
you get a lot of very strange and unflattering aliases. There's either something strange going on here, or I just don't get it.

Wow just wow:shock::shock:
Now I'm really confused. I highly doubt Microsoft has anything to gain by having those aliases.

[icechen1]

Wow just wow:shock::shock:
Now I'm really confused. I highly doubt Microsoft has anything to gain by having those aliases.
WHOIS OF MICROSOFT.
Server Name: MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BECOUSE.UNIXSUCKS. COM
IP Address: 185.3.4.7
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com[/QU Server Name:

My favorite:
Server Name: MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.CO M
IP Address: 65.160.248.13
Registrar: GKG.NET, INC.
Whois Server: whois.gkg.net
Referral URL: http://www.gkg.net

[~LoKe]

ofallevil.com is not owned by Microsoft; the subdomain just aliases it. Look, we have theroot.ofallevil.com as well, which links to verisign.

[hhhhhx]

Server Name: MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BECOUSE.UNIXSUCKS. COM
IP Address: 185.3.4.7
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com[/QU Server Name:

My favorite:
Server Name: MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.CO M
IP Address: 65.160.248.13
Registrar: GKG.NET, INC.
Whois Server: whois.gkg.net
Referral URL: http://www.gkg.netummmm.... WOW!

[p_quarles]

Folks: no need to quote the whois query in all its language-filter circumventing glory. Anyone wanting to see for themselves knows what to do.

[JurB]

Am i the only one who isn't surprised by this?
Seems pretty logical to take away your "enemy"'s weapons.
They can't register them all though ;)

[EdThaSlayer]

They probably use this as a *link* to their main site. I guess they get quite a lot of customers this way.

[herbster]

Haha, that's great. Kudos to MS.

[mysticrider92]

hahahahaha wow, ok. Microsoft bought a sense of humor.

(some of you could use one too. It's funny, laugh.)

Great, so now we have to get Service Packs for our sense of humor?? :)

Somehow, I highly doubt that Microsoft actually registered all of the names in that whois list, it looks like someone using false information to make a joke (if that is possible).

[dgray_from_dc]

:shock::shock::shock:

+3

[mridkash]

If you open about microsoft on that site, it goes to real microsoft.com about page, which says,


Our Values
As a company, and as individuals, we value integrity, honesty, openness, personal excellence, constructive self-criticism, continual self-improvement, and mutual respect. We are committed to our customers and partners and have a passion for technology. We take on big challenges, and pride ourselves on seeing them through. We hold ourselves accountable to our customers, shareholders, partners, and employees by honoring our commitments, providing results, and striving for the highest quality.


self-criticism

[Dzenhax]

Here's one more mystery. You can get service pack 3 from this site, but I can't find it on the production microsoft site. Did anybody else? Anyway, I installed it on a test client and it acts, so far, like a real service pack. Microsoft update recognized it.

[forrestcupp]

Wow just wow:shock::shock:
Now I'm really confused. I highly doubt Microsoft has anything to gain by having those aliases.

in the whois microsoft.com thing, none of those are Microsoft's aliases. They are other people's server names that contain the text 'microsoft.com'

[forrestcupp]

Yeah it's hilarious. ;) Seriously, like I said in my previous post if that really is a joke it must be the worst marketing ever. No normal company makes "jokes" like these when you're investing millions in marketing. It's suicide as far as I know.

Even if it really was their web site, I highly doubt if it would be suicide. Most people aren't swayed like that by a joke. The only people who would actually be moved by a joke like that are people who already hate Microsoft.

And even if it were a joke site created by MS, it's not like they are publicizing it, and using it to identify themselves.

[Ebuntor]

Even if it really was their web site, I highly doubt if it would be suicide. Most people aren't swayed like that by a joke. The only people who would actually be moved by a joke like that are people who already hate Microsoft.


Well I doubt that anyone's opinion would be effected by such a "joke" but that's not that point I was making. With marketing you're trying to create a positive image of your company for the customer. Everything you do publicly, ads as well as your website it itself, has to be positive to maintain or improve that image. No large companies, and certainly not as large as MS, would do any "jokes" like these. That's one of the most important rules of marketing when maintaining your image. No negative attention, period. If MS would use such an URL they would have to be 100% sure it had a positive effect for them (but in this case I do not see how this could be).

From what I can tell they have an excellent marketing department so I'm sure they'd never take a risk like that.



And even if it were a joke site created by MS, it's not like they are publicizing it, and using it to identify themselves.Well if that were the case they would be using it as URL for their main website, it that isn't identifying yourself I don't know what is. :)

EDIT: A good example of using a negative ad for a positive effect was a commercial done by an ISP in my country some time ago. They basically said "our high speed i-net connections are worth....nothing, connection to the web via our services is nothing." You get the idea. That is a good way to use the word "nothing" as in that they cost very little. And they made it VERY clear their services are good. Just about the complete opposite of what MS would theoretically do by using such an URL

[LaRoza]

Well I doubt that anyone's opinion would be effected by such a "joke" but that's not that point I was making. With marketing you're trying to create a positive image of your company for the customer. Everything you do publicly, ads as well as your website it itself, has to be positive to maintain or improve that image. No large companies, and certainly not as large as MS, would do any "jokes" like these. That's one of the most important rules of marketing when maintaining your image. No negative attention, period. If MS would use such an URL they would have to be 100% sure it had a positive effect for them (but in this case I do not see how this could be).

From what I can tell they have an excellent marketing department so I'm sure they'd never take a risk like that.


I still think my penguin infiltration is the solution.

http://hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=1

[Ebuntor]

I still think my penguin infiltration is the solution.

http://hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=1

ROFL, indeed, that explains everything. ;)

[LittleLORDevil]

If you are a monopolistic company in a market what really do you have to lose, except for ******* off a few linux users to the mass of windows user? It's not advertised anywhere except for in this thread. I think its funny and give kudos to MS. I'm not an MS fanboy I'm just putting this in their perspective.