Anyone tried Midori (webkit based browser)?

[orange2k]

I`ve read some news about changes in the Gnome 2.22, and about the possibility to build Epiphany with Webkit engine instead of Gecko 1.8

I`m looking for a browser to replace FF2 and Epiphany in terms of the browser engine, so Ive found Midori...

As far as I know, Webkit is the browser engine upon which Apple`s browser Safari is running...

I haven`t tried it yet, so my question is about your experience with it...

[kadath]

I'm interested in Midori too. However, it's obviously too early in development to use full time at the moment. Also, I'm too hooked on certain extensions (like AdBlock Plus and NoScript) to leave them behind.

If Midori ever reaches beta, I'll definitely look closer at it.

[Darkhack]

I've used Midori and even offered to contribute patches and I created its entry on Wikipedia. Right now Christian Dywan (the developer) is working on it solo, but he is doing an awesome job.

[siddartha]

Tried it and it's quite impressive. Glad to see an alternative to the Portable Internet Explorer or how some might call it - firefox.

[Tim Sharitt]

I tried it a while back. It was a bit rough and featureless for me, but looked good for an early version. I think it may show some promise for the future.

[PurposeOfReason]

It still has the problem with cookies, like all linux webkit browsers, but besides that it is simple and light. No addons or anything, but a good /etc/hosts is better than any adblock.

[chucky chuckaluck]

i don't get the fascination with webkit.

[jrusso2]

Crashed a lot and I don't think it handled cookies either if I recall.

[jrusso2]

I`ve read some news about changes in the Gnome 2.22, and about the possibility to build Epiphany with Webkit engine instead of Gecko 1.8

I`m looking for a browser to replace FF2 and Epiphany in terms of the browser engine, so Ive found Midori...

As far as I know, Webkit is the browser engine upon which Apple`s browser Safari is running...

I haven`t tried it yet, so my question is about your experience with it...

Why not put the effort into making one really good webkit browser for Linux?

[hanzomon4]

Wha... what? ^^^^

[Sunflower1970]

Been trying it out on Arch. It's nice, fast, & will be awesome some day. Right now it crashes a bit too often for regular use. :(

[DoubleClicker]

It still has the problem with cookies, like all linux webkit browsers, but besides that it is simple and light. No addons or anything, but a good /etc/hosts is better than any adblock.

if you get the latest build from the webkit-team on launchpag https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa

then cookies will work.

for intrepid add:


deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webkit-team/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
to your sources.list (or repositories in synaptic)

for hardy add:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webkit-team/ppa/ubuntu hardy main

[Rokurosv]

I liked it, flash worked, it needs more time but I think it's usable.

[crimesaucer]

I built the Arch AUR package of "midori-git" with libwebkit-git and it worked pretty good: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14349 (well, the latest version hasn't worked good for me)


Git version 20090116 was very stable with the flashplugin-64bit, and the only issues I had with it were that it would not keep the cookies for passwords and it didn't work with the 64 bit java jre plugin.


I also didn't like the way it downloads.... you have to either use a script with wget or install a download manager.


Webkit was alright, it passed the web standards test at 100%..... but it still showed some sites weirdly.


As for how fast it was..... I built 3 really fast browsers that week. They were:

Midori-git with libwebkit-git
Epiphany-webkit with libwebkit-git
Firefox 3.1b2-1-PGO (profile-guided optimized with custom C[XX]FLAGS and LDFLAGS)


They were all equally fast, but Epiphany's URL-searchbar would not work, and the jre64-plugin, extensions, and cookies did not work either.... Midori also had no cookies, extensions, or jre64-plugin....


Firefox 3.1b2 had everything work including all of my 3.0.5 Add-Ons. It still feels very fast and has been stable for a few weeks. I'm looking forward to the next 3.1b3 build.


(I also recently built the newer 20090204 git version of Midori and the 40654 version of webkitgtk-svn and they both broke and became totally unusable.)

[adamlau]

i don't get the fascination with webkit.
Both the rendering and scripting engines of WebKit are fast, fast, fast. Like crimesaucer above, I built both Midori and 3.1b2 PGO on Arch. Only I found Midori to render faster than 3.1b2 PGO overall.

[billgoldberg]

Been trying it out on Arch. It's nice, fast, & will be awesome some day. Right now it crashes a bit too often for regular use. :(

I found out the same.

If it becomes stable I could see myself using it more.

[Darkhack]

The crashes primarily lie in the GTK+ port of WebKit. I've found Midori itself to be a quality browser since 0.1.0 was released. Sadly, WebKitGtk doesn't receive as much love as the other ports.

[suoko]

i'm now trying it to check media support i found in this page:
http://webkit.org/blog/140/html5-media-support/
but it doesn't work

it looks like media support is disabled by default (read here https://dev.mobileread.com/trac/webkitbrowser/browser/trunk/WebKit-r30377/configure.ac)

html5 will trash flash & silverlight altogether so i guess we must test this browser a lot
it's just a bit unstable but it's very very very good !!!

[crimesaucer]

The Archlinux AUR package of Midori-git (with webkitgtk-svn) is starting to look really good. (still crashes too much for my #1 browser..... plus jre plugin not working correctly and no cookies saved)

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr169/Arch-newb/Screenshot-62-1.png
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr169/Arch-newb/Screenshot-62.png

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr169/Arch-newb/Screenshot-64-1.png
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr169/Arch-newb/Screenshot-64.png

[ghindo]

Midori is really light and really fast. It's a bit unstable at the moment, but I can't wait to see where it goes. Isn't Xfce incorportating Midori into their project?

[crimesaucer]

Midori is really light and really fast. It's a bit unstable at the moment, but I can't wait to see where it goes.

My Firefox 3.1b2-PGO is feeling just as fast..... but I hope midori will keep getting better.

[deepclutch]

why webkitgtk lacks fast development?I am sure epiphany browser can shift to webkit backend if such a fast development can be done with webkit Linux port.

[crimesaucer]

why webkitgtk lacks fast development?I am sure epiphany browser can shift to webkit backend if such a fast development can be done with webkit Linux port.

They have an Epiphany-webkit in Archlinux AUR..... but the Epiphany search feature in the Address Bar would not work when I built that package. Neither would the jre plugin or the extensions/userscripts.


I might try a newer version of it just to see if it's improved yet. I do know that Gnome has been saying that they were going to switch to webkit soon.....

EDIT: just built Epiphany-webkit and the search feature is still not working. It's very fast though.

[DPic]

I love Midori! It definitely beat Epiphany-wekit (and firefox) but i'd love to see a comparison between them. I also have chrome but i prefer to use a more gnome-friendly app so Midori has been my main browser for a while now. Using the version in the PPA is very nice =]

[Wiebelhaus]

I tried it a while back. It was a bit rough and featureless for me, but looked good for an early version. I think it may show some promise for the future.

I agree and Ubuntu Tweak (http://ubuntu-tweak.com/) has the ability to add a repository for dev builds as well as crach reports to help with the development.


Also , Stability is still lacking. Even Chrome is much more stable.

[joey-elijah]

Also , Stability is still lacking. Even Chrome is much more stable.

x again

Midori crashes more than paper airplanes. It's a shame, but it's been knocking around in such an instable form for so long - whilst remaining pretty featureless at the same time. I think the webkit epiphany holds more promise, tbh.

[DPic]

x again

Midori crashes more than paper airplanes. It's a shame, but it's been knocking around in such an instable form for so long - whilst remaining pretty featureless at the same time. I think the webkit epiphany holds more promise, tbh.

Are you using the webkit and midori PPAs? They're very stable...

[Jesus_Valdez]

I love Midori, dont chrash as often as I read in the thread, the only complain I have about it is the fact that sometimes takes litle to go back in the history.

[andras artois]

It's definetly going to be a good browser as long as it carrys on heading in the same direction as it is now. It's nice and lightweight, simple layout but it is featureless (firefox has some damn useful addons!). Would maybe be nice to see a few addons wrote for it such as adblock etc and to be REALLY customiseable (lot's of preferance options).

[sertse]

Adblock is already written. It just wasn't released in time for 1.7

[cKGunslinger]

Used it for ~5 minutes (0.1.4). I tried to go to www.google.com 7 times. It completely crashed (jsut exited) 4 of those 7 times. 2 times it tooks ~90s to even resolve the DNS entry (could be my system/config, but the 4-5 other browsers I experiment with did not have this problem.)

So, 1 time out of 7 it managed to successfully bring up google in less than a minute without crashing. But at least it's fast. :)

I'll stick with Opera 10 Beta for now, but hopefully Midori comes along a bit faster.

[DPic]

Used it for ~5 minutes (0.1.4). I tried to go to www.google.com 7 times. It completely crashed (jsut exited) 4 of those 7 times. 2 times it tooks ~90s to even resolve the DNS entry (could be my system/config, but the 4-5 other browsers I experiment with did not have this problem.)

So, 1 time out of 7 it managed to successfully bring up google in less than a minute without crashing. But at least it's fast. :)

I'll stick with Opera 10 Beta for now, but hopefully Midori comes along a bit faster.

Don't complain if you're not using the most updated version using the Midori and WebKit PPAs.

[Mark76]

Currently using it as my default browser. It crashes occasionally, but at least I haven't lost all my cookies yet (something that happens with alarming regularity whenever I give Kazehakase a go).

[ashwinhgtx]

I'm using Midori 0.1.2 right now. It's very unstable right now but it's improving a lot after every update. I'm looking forward to this browser. Rendering speed is awesome due to WebKit.
Any developers out there with free time please see if you can help Christian Dywan, the only guy working on Midori.

[steeleyuk]

0.1.7 is the latest available from the PPA. Its much more stable than previous versions and its updated every couple of days.

[racoq]

0.1.7 is the latest available from the PPA. Its much more stable than previous versions and its updated every couple of days.

I would like to test the latest version, but still i don't understand why the Hardy version of midori is not updated to 0.1.7.

Is that such a difficult task to acomplish?

[sertse]

Not worth commenting unless you're on something relatively new. It has rapidly changed in the last couple of revisions. 0.1.7 is pretty stable. Anyways if past trends were to go by 0.1.8 will be out by the end of the month?

As for back porting, general rule is that packages don't get upgraded except for crucial security/bug fixes.

[nortexoid]

I've been trying out 1.7 and actually it's been very stable and the feature set is quite good in comparison with Epiphany (gecko). One thing I tried to add were the Ad Block FiltersetP user style and script for ad blocking, but it doesn't appear to work. They show up ticked in the side panel, but ads still appear. And Epiphany, I believe, uses the exact same script as a plug in, but it WORKS. Anybody get it working? I know I could go proxy for ad blocking, but it seems like too much to figure out for my lazy ***.

What's needed: password management; full popular website support (e.g. gmail won't display the labs calendar side panel--help?); better plug in support; performance improvements (it seems slow compared to Epiphany gecko! But maybe that's because ad block isn't working).

Otherwise I like Midori. On my system it actually seems to be MORE stable than epiphany-gecko (which I just can't use anymore).

[Mark76]

Mine's been rendering this site weird.

As you can see

[sertse]

Bump ;)

New version is out!

http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/archives/19-Menubarless,-extended-and-also-on-Windows.html

Get it on Ubuntu at

https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa , remember to also add the webkit ppa at https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa

[DPic]

Bump ;)

New version is out!

http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/archives/19-Menubarless,-extended-and-also-on-Windows.html

Get it on Ubuntu at

https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa , remember to also add the webkit ppa at https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa

Awesome!! Midori is now on Windows too! xD

[Jesus_Valdez]

After I put a couple of scripts it started to crash every now and then, I'll remove them and see how goes from there, but overall I'm very happy about it.

I really like how there's a menu with your bookmarks on every new tab.

[DarkReaper79]

trying it out now. Looks like currently no import bookmarks, or Im I just missing it?

[Dullstar]

I swear I read somewhere that Microsoft wanted to dump Windows after 7 or 8 and create an OS called Midori. I'd take this information with a grain of salt though, since I haven't seen many details.

[Exershio]

I swear I read somewhere that Microsoft wanted to dump Windows after 7 or 8 and create an OS called Midori. I'd take this information with a grain of salt though, since I haven't seen many details.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28operating_system%29

Midori seems to be a pretty popular word.

[ghindo]

Midori seems to be a pretty popular word.Japanese for "green"? You betcha.

[ghindo]

Midori 0.1.9 is out!

http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/archives/20-The-hated-popup,-javascript-issues-and-tab-panel-improvements.html

Get it in the Midori PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa

Also remember to add the WebKit PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa

[MasterNetra]

I thought Midori has been a around for a while? Anywho it works, at a bare minimal. But sense it apparently isn't a finished product I'll hold of on ripping at it.

[Jesus_Valdez]

Midori 0.1.9 is out!

http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/archives/20-The-hated-popup,-javascript-issues-and-tab-panel-improvements.html

Get it in the Midori PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa

Also remember to add the WebKit PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa
I've just update it.

Still no hotmail, and I'm guessing that the bookmarks at the bar adress on new windows are gone for good.

[sertse]

Umm, anyone use spellcheck with midori? When you try to correct a misspelled word with one of its suggestions, do you find that it simply deletes the word instead of correcting it?

Just wondering if it was just me.

[decoherence]

I've been using Midori on and off.

Also check out Arora, the Qt4-based equivalent.

I like both 'em both. Fast, accurate browsing on low-end computers.

[sertse]

New Version is out!

Annoucment/Tarballs at http://www.twotoasts.de

Key feature: IT SUPPORTS EASYLIST now!!! Easylist is the filter list of Adblock Plus. However that requires the latest webkit, which even in the PPA only karmic has.

Try it by adding these PPAs. Instructions to do soare in the links.

Webkit: https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa

Midori: https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa

Note: At time of posting the ppa hasn't caught up yet. In fact you probably don't want to use it right now (last development version removed cookie support, it was fixed for final). The PPA will probably update itself to final in a day or two though =)

[dragos240]

I am using midori with awesome wm right now.

[NormanFLinux]

There is Arora,which is also a browser built on the Webkit engine. Light and fast.

[RabbitWho]

used it on spri,tis fine. :)

[Jesus_Valdez]

Oh my cookies are back.

Happy times!

I was starting to annoy me the lack of cookies for the forum.

[Mark76]

There's no way to edit bookmarks :shock:

[sertse]

(last development version removed cookie support, it was fixed for final). The PPA will probably update itself to final in a day or two though =)

This the PPA has now fixed this. Enjoy!

Bookmarks is still quite basic yea, you can manually edit it in the config text file. Hopefully they'll focus on that in the next version. Midori overall has come a long way though.

[sertse]

MIdori 0.20 is out! Weeeee

Adblock works properly now, for everyone - See my screenshot with Easylist (The list used in Adblock in Firefox) set up. New Features include DNS Prefetching (Try it, might make your pages load faster...I think Chromium has it by default, it's a firefox tweak) and Form Filling.

Get it using the Webkit and Midori PPAs and follow the instructions

https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa

https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa

Midori by default is set to use it's own user agent, which in a perfect world where standards are always followed, would be fine. For best results, select Safari as your user agent in your preferences - See screenshot.

My screenshots only look scary because I hide everything btw :P

[Mark76]

Can anyone duplicate this screenshot?

[FootySr]

I'm using 0.1.9 from the Software Center and I'm interested enough to want to give the newest version a go. That said... can anyone give me some intallation infomation for 0.2.0?

Thanks! :)

[sertse]

When I thought people would would at least look at the replies immediately above them ;)

Look two posts up. 2nd last post in the previous page.

[FootySr]

When I thought people would would at least look at the replies immediately above them ;)

Look two posts up. 2nd last post in the previous page.

Yeah so? I saw that but I'm not Batman! I need someone to hold my hand. ;)

I don't have enough Ubuntu under my belt and the process is just a little cryptic for me.

I'll ponder at those 2 links a bit though and look into it.

It's not just the install but the un-install if I need to, in the future, drop in the next release. I'll need to research that a bit too.

Thank You. :D

[Praxicoide]

If you are on Karmic, then in a terminal type:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:midori

and

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webkit-team

Followed by

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

[FootySr]

If you are on Karmic, then in a terminal type:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:midori

and

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webkit-team

Followed by

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

Thank you! I assume I should un-install the one I got from the Software Center first?

How would I un-install this 0.2.0 version if needed?

[nortexoid]

You don't need to uninstall anything as the "sudo apt-get upgrade" command will update your old version to the newest one.

[Praxicoide]

How would I un-install this 0.2.0 version if needed?

You would need to comment out the two ppas, update your sources, and then reinstall midori (and maybe webkit, I don't know).

[MikeCyber]

Very fast, but it doesn't save passwords? Any help with that? I know of a solution using gnome keyring which I don't want to use.

[Elfy]

Try a support question.

As it is, this really old and tired thread is now asleep again.