Hello new windows user!

[Masterj15]

I am writing this thread for people who are:

1. interested in Ubuntu

2. new to Ubuntu

3. who ever are interested in this thread.

My name is masterJx9 and I'm showing all people that ubuntu is the operating system for you. Weather you into business, music, video games, or what ever. I am going to break down ubuntu show much that you with now all aspect of ubuntu. I might make more threads of specific subjects in ubuntu in the near future.

MUSIC: Music is one thing that people use computers for. Most of the world uses windows and their programs to listen to their favorite music. They use programs such as windows media player 11 (or higher), winamp, realplayer, and many more. Did you know that ubuntu can listen to all those formats as well? Yes, you can listen to avi,mpeg,rm,rvbm,wmv, and many more.

Totem is the normal program that comes with ubuntu and backing totem is gstreamer. A powerful engine that can take care of all you needs.

http://gentoo-portage.com/up_img/img_800px/1613.png


Rhythm music player can be likened to windows media player but only for music. Image a library full of book that you can access easily. This is like the same thing except for music only. It can play any song on cue.

http://edmondhui.homeip.net/blog/media/2/rhythmbox.png

Their are many more programs for music such as vlc, mplayer (probably one of the best), realplayer, amorock, and many more!

IPOD

Ah, yes the ipod. Certainly one of mac's greatest achievements. Unfortunately, Ubuntu can not use itunes beacuse itunes is an close soured program (meaning that other people can change the program to make it available for another system) But don't despair, Ubuntu has programs to take care of all you needs.

Gtkpodis a program to take care of your precious ipod. It can store music easily without any hassle.

http://commandline.org.uk/images/posts/ipod/gtkpod-medium.png

Amarockis a music program that has the ability to take and store music on and off the ipod.

http://planet-geek.com/images/amarok-3.png

Their are many more programs but I must keep going.

Mac abilities

People love the mac because of its look and style that it has. Some people wonder if they will lose that look and feel of a mac. Well I have some GREAT NEWS FOR YOU! You can get all the looks of mac and MORE!

Avant Window Navigator is a kibadock for Ubuntu. It is very resourceful and look cool as well. Just stick your favorite programs in their and your ready to go.

http://www.webalice.it/andreamartignoni/desk.png

gdesklets is a widget program for ubuntu. Put your favorite clock, weather, and many more widget programs on your desktop with gdesklets.

http://labor-liber.org/images/linux/xfce.jpg

Emerald Is a program that can change your windows and boards to what you fell like. You can even change them to mac if you want.

http://www.freegamebox.com/images/screenshot/classic-solitaire-for-mac-osx_1371.png

Their are lots of programs to get the feel of mac.

GAMES

Did you really think I was going to forget about games. Games are what keep people entertained.

Open arena is a shooting game that is EXACTLY like quake arena. Go and start shooting those bastards for no good reason.:)This is game is also online versus the normal quake 3 was not online.

http://www.happypenguin.org/images/open-arena.jpg

Their are too many game to break down for you so I'm just going to name the games that I play.:

Pscx2 : ps2 emulator

Tuxcube: Gamecube emulator

Gens: Sega genesis emulator

Snes9express: snes emulator

gfce: nes emulator

Chess

blackjack

billiard

bejeweled

mines

and MANY, Many, MANY,Many more :)

Programs that are must have

These are the programs that make Ubuntu the best operating system their is (this is based on opinion)

Compiz-fusion: Ever seen a program that can turn your desktop into 4 desktops, then form those desktop into a cube? Sound cool and confusing right? Well check out these pictures!

http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/compiz-fusion.png
http://dengpeng.name/upload/images/screenshot-compizfusion-cube.png
http://www.elblogdemaverick.com/uploads/xgl-compiz-01.jpg
http://www.aldolat.it/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/compiz_fusion.png

This program can show you what multi-tasking is all about. You will never feel cluttered again. It is also a program that can make your friend jealous.


Windows........Literally

Some people just like windows. They think that going with the crowd is the way to go. Well I got a program for you.

Vmware, vmplayer: These programs can run a windows system on your Ubuntu Linux. Therefore you can get back any program that Linux cannot get for you (even thought this is impossible).

http://www.intelliadmin.com/images/Vista%20VMWare.gif
http://img.osnews.com/img/3863/vmware1.jpg
http://img.osnews.com/img/3863/vmware2.jpg
http://www.daniel15.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/vmware-2.jpg

VirtualBox is a program that can run windows or any other operating system without any hassle. This is, by far, the easiest way to get another operating system on Ubuntu. It runs great and has great support.

http://www.elpijeo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/virtualbox_fin.jpg
http://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/virtualbox.png

I Will add more to this thread when I get a chance.

[Gambini]

It's pretty informative, and it looks like you put some time and thought into it. It is a pretty good surface-level of applications. I personally prefer XMMS as my media player, because if you have more than 200 songs, it won't take up as many resources. I've heard of rhythmbox taking up a ton of memory where XMMS only had a couple of megabytes with the same 2,000 something songs. On the other hand, I prefer to use rhythmbox with my iPod. You might want to put that down as a selection.

How about going into what DE or WM that would be best for certain scenarios? Like fluxbox for people with less than 256 MB of RAM, XFCE for people with 256-512 MB of RAM and Gnome or KDE for people with more than 512 MB of RAM. Maybe even separate programs with the amount of system resources they use.

Typo on your post: Gtkpod and Amarock both need spaces after them.

Overall, a very nice job.

[stchman]

It's pretty informative, and it looks like you put some time and thought into it. It is a pretty good surface-level of applications. I personally prefer XMMS as my media player, because if you have more than 200 songs, it won't take up as many resources. I've heard of rhythmbox taking up a ton of memory where XMMS only had a couple of megabytes with the same 2,000 something songs. On the other hand, I prefer to use rhythmbox with my iPod. You might want to put that down as a selection.

How about going into what DE or WM that would be best for certain scenarios? Like fluxbox for people with less than 256 MB of RAM, XFCE for people with 256-512 MB of RAM and Gnome or KDE for people with more than 512 MB of RAM. Maybe even separate programs with the amount of system resources they use.

Typo on your post: Gtkpod and Amarock both need spaces after them.

Overall, a very nice job.

Since you prefer XMMS, use Audacious. The XMMS project is no longer being maintained and soe people used the XMMS code and created Audacious. All the skins are compatible and the menus are a lot better. Audaciuos also does FLAC out of the box with no plugins required.

Also it is spelled Amarok not Amarock.

I have Ubuntu running Gnome on a machine with 512MB RAM no problem. I recommend Xubuntu for 256 or less MB RAM and a slow processor < 1GHz

[Ex-windows]

I think it was great that you took the time to do this. like some many others every day This is something that windows can never offer or compare with ie community help and participation. You could add that your list as well.
And Gambini makes a good point kde has a whole bunch of programs to offer And with ubunutu you can use both gnome and kde if you want.
I look forward to seeing your new posts.

[Masterj15]

Yeah I only had 30 minutes to make this. I will make lots of updates day, by day! :)

[stchman]

My site also has a side by side comparison of Ubuntu to Windows. It shows that even after you purchase Windows you STILL have to buy or go find numerous software titles to get what you want done. I need to update the page with some new programs I found.

http://www.stchman.com/ub_vs_win.html

[Masterj15]

stchman

This is a good site but, in order for us to change people minds and switch them to Ubuntu, You need to find out the reason why they perfer windows over Ubuntu.

[Dragon12345]

wow, this is great!

i'm a new linux user. Ubuntu is my first linux OS after a few days of searching :)

I currently using window xp. I have no problem with it what so ever. The reason I want to try linux is because of no viruses.

back to topic:

I find this thread very useful and easy to follow. I haven't try all the links that you provided, but I will.

My main uses for the computer are:
1. internet ............. i can use linux here
2. game ................. still use windows for gaming.
3. music ................ can use linux here
4. ebay. .................. can use linux here.

so, I still need windows for gaming :) mostly online MMORPG

So, great work! hope you can update the thread with more info, as in applications recommended by other users...ect...

[Masterj15]

wow, this is great!

i'm a new linux user. Ubuntu is my first linux OS after a few days of searching :)

I currently using window xp. I have no problem with it what so ever. The reason I want to try linux is because of no viruses.

back to topic:

I find this thread very useful and easy to follow. I haven't try all the links that you provided, but I will.

My main uses for the computer are:
1. internet ............. i can use linux here
2. game ................. still use windows for gaming.
3. music ................ can use linux here
4. ebay. .................. can use linux here.

so, I still need windows for gaming :) mostly online MMORPG

So, great work! hope you can update the thread with more info, as in applications recommended by other users...ect...

I can't talk much right now (because of homework. lolololol) but you should use vmware or virtualbox. I use virtualbox because ut was easy to use. I would suggest trying out vmware first though. :)

[stchman]

stchman

This is a good site but, in order for us to change people minds and switch them to Ubuntu, You need to find out the reason why they perfer windows over Ubuntu.

It is not a matter that people actually prefer Windows it is just that is all they know. Nearly every laptop and desktop comes with either XP or Vista installed so they have no exposure to Linux.

I state in my site in several areas that there is nothing Windows can do that Linux cannot do (Windows specific games aside). I tell them that it is free as well. I don;t want people to think that they can install Linux and viola all their Windows software works as well. People need to know that Linux is different not harder.

[Masterj15]

It is not a matter that people actually prefer Windows it is just that is all they know. Nearly every laptop and desktop comes with either XP or Vista installed so they have no exposure to Linux.

I state in my site in several areas that there is nothing Windows can do that Linux cannot do (Windows specific games aside). I tell them that it is free as well. I don;t want people to think that they can install Linux and viola all their Windows software works as well. People need to know that Linux is different not harder.

your words are smart my friend. I love this site and I am going show this site to all my friends (who haven't switched to Ubuntu yet)

Your right about linux being different not hard.

I think that if people had more linux os with their hardware for sale, the prices would be lower because people wouldn't have to pay for the os. lolololol

[forrestcupp]

Pretty informative, but you posted in the wrong place. We all know this; that's why we're here.

But some of what you said is misleading. Try playing Crysis in a virtual machine. Even if you have a capable computer, you can't do it because no virtual machine has acceptable 3D support. Virtual machines are a pain anyway because it's hard to share files with them and the virtual hardware is crappy.

There are a lot of people out there that would love Ubuntu if they gave it a try. But I think we have to accept the fact that Ubuntu isn't for everyone. Just like Mac isn't for everyone.

[LaRoza]

Pretty informative, but you posted in the wrong place. We all know this; that's why we're here.


A wiki would be a good place.

[Masterj15]

Pretty informative, but you posted in the wrong place. We all know this; that's why we're here.

But some of what you said is misleading. Try playing Crysis in a virtual machine. Even if you have a capable computer, you can't do it because no virtual machine has acceptable 3D support. Virtual machines are a pain anyway because it's hard to share files with them and the virtual hardware is crappy.

There are a lot of people out there that would love Ubuntu if they gave it a try. But I think we have to accept the fact that Ubuntu isn't for everyone. Just like Mac isn't for everyone.

This is true. I Ubuntu E.E a try and now I'm loving my Ubuntu G.G. I understand what your saying about Ubuntu not being for everyone, but those people who don't have a reason should know about Ubuntu. Like, for instance, a person who like computers because they look cool. I think they should at least know about Ubuntu before they think that windows is the only way to go.


A wiki would be a good place.
I'm making my first wiki page. Thanks LaRoza.

[jcparker500]

I have to disagree about "Linux being different, not hard." (Please note that I am not bashing Linux here. I just installed it today and I plan on sticking with it, but there is a HUGE learning curve). People *don't* just use Windows because it comes installed on their computers. They use it because it is easy. I have a B.S. degree in Computer Systems Management, and have worked the IT field for 10 years. All of my exposure has been in the Windows environment though, so I do not know Linux. Now, let me give you an example.

In Windows, if I want to install a program, I download it, double-click on an executable, and it installs itself. 5 minutes later I click on an icon and I am up and running.

The first message in this thread recommended a program for your iPod, gtkpod. I downloaded it and extracted the files from the archive. I browsed to the folder it placed them, and was presented with a bunch of files I have no idea what to do with. I see one file called, "Install" and think to myself, oh, that must be the installer. I double-clicked on the Install file, and find myself reading a text file. Here are some excerpts from it:


First, make sure you have compiled and installed the dependencies.
Most Linux distros will include them, except maybe for libid3tag
(http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12349) and
libmp4v2 (http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/).

Please do not confuse the libid3 library with the libid3tag
library -- they are not related. libid3tag is part of the MAD
project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mad/).

Starting with version 0.96 gtkpod is using the gpod library.
libgpod should soon be available as a standard package for major
linux distributions. You can also install the library from source.
Download instructions for the tarball or development snapshot can
be found at http://www.gtkpod.org/libgpod.html

The libmp4v2 package is ONLY NEEDED if you need AAC support. You
don't need libmp4v2 if you don't use AAC files.

libid3tag was successfully compiled and installed with

./configure ; make ; make install

libmp4v2 was successfully compiled and install with

./bootstrap --disable-server ; make ; make install

What??? What the heck does any of that mean? I'm not trying to be funny here, Thats all gibberish to me! :confused:

It goes on...


As a practical example, let's say the libmp4v2 software was
installed in $HOME/Applications/mpeg4ip and the libid3tag software
was installed in $HOME/Applications/libid3tag, and you want to
install gtkpod into $HOME/Applications/gtkpod. Do this instead:

CFLAGS="-I$HOME/Applications/mpeg4ip/include -L$HOME/Applications/mpeg4ip/lib -I$HOME/Applications/libid3tag/include -L$HOME/Applications/libid3tag/lib" ./configure --prefix=$HOME/Applications/gtkpod ; make ; make install

Since none of this means any sense to me, I don't know what I am going to do. Certainly not install this program.

No, it is not even close to being as easy as Windows. If a professional computer analyst struggles with it, how is a novice, like most of the rest of the world is, supposed to know what the heck it takes to do something like install this simple little program?

More stable than Windows? Yes. Uses less resources than Windows? Yes. Can you do anything in Linux that you can do in Windows? I'll take your word on it, yes. It is as user friendly as Windows? Not even close - doesn't compare. And *that* is why the general public uses Windows. Wish me luck in learning this thing!

[-grubby]

No, it is not even close to being as easy as Windows. If a professional computer analyst struggles with it, how is a novice, like most of the rest of the world is, supposed to know what the heck it takes to do something like install this simple little program?


You know that not every program installer needs to be compiled and there are many packages that require only a one click install right?

[aysiu]

I have a B.S. degree in Computer Systems Management, and have worked the IT field for 10 years. All of my exposure has been in the Windows environment though, so I do not know Linux. Now, let me give you an example.

In Windows, if I want to install a program, I download it, double-click on an executable, and it installs itself. 5 minutes later I click on an icon and I am up and running. I have a BA degree in English, and I have never worked in the IT field. Almost all of my exposure has been in Windows environments. I've had to use Macs a little bit as well. Everything I know about Linux is from the internet. Now, let me give you an example.

In Ubuntu, if I want to install a program, I go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, I search for the name or description of the program, mark it for installation, and then click Apply. A minute and a half later, it's installed and ready to run.

[jcparker500]

You know that not every program installer needs to be compiled and there are many packages that require only a one click install right?
No, I didn't. See my point? From the title of this thread, and that fact that it says right at the top of the first post that it is for Windows users new to Ubuntu, I would have assumed that these would have been simple programs that someone who was a novice to Linux would be able to understand.

I am glad that to hear that there are one click installs out there. So far (in my 1 day of looking!) I have not found any. Perhaps a thread for people migrating from Windows to Linux would be more appropriate to have links of those sort to really help us along. Just a suggestion.

I am not trying to be a jerk here, I promise. I am just a living example of one of the problems with Linux - the Linux community *in general* seems to think that the rest of the world is as technically computer savvy as they are.

[jcparker500]

In Ubuntu, if I want to install a program, I go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, I search for the name or description of the program, mark it for installation, and then click Apply. A minute and a half later, it's installed and ready to run.
Is that your sarcastic way of telling me I'm just an idiot who doesn't get it, and *everyone* in the world should know about Synaptic Package Manager (as you roll your eyes)?

By the way, I just went to Synaptic Package Manager and there is nothing in there about gtkpod, nor could I figure out how to get it added. I'll keep working on it.

Again, I am not starting an OS war. In my original message I gave props to Linux for being better in every category *except* user friendliness. Unfortunately, that is a critical one. And I am glad to hear that it was such an easy transition for you. I guess I am just an idiot.

[IamJohnHayes]

Hey man, I'm fairly new to this too, The only linux experience i have had before this was a phlak v2 live cd i used to mess with at work.

Before you can search the web for programs on synaptic, go to Software Sources right above it and allow it to search the web for sources, I have it set for everything but source code, Also while your there you may want to change the server to the country you live in it helped me pick up some d/l speed.

hope that helps you out.

[jcparker500]

Hey, thanks John. I'll check that out!

[ubuntu-freak]

If anyone wants an easy and quick way to get Ubuntu doing the things you're used to in Windows, check out my how-to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833).

I wrote it with newbies in mind. Hope it helps.

Nathan

[jcparker500]

That is some great stuff, RO, Thanks!!

[-grubby]

No, I didn't. See my point? From the title of this thread, and that fact that it says right at the top of the first post that it is for Windows users new to Ubuntu, I would have assumed that these would have been simple programs that someone who was a novice to Linux would be able to understand.

I am glad that to hear that there are one click installs out there. So far (in my 1 day of looking!) I have not found any. Perhaps a thread for people migrating from Windows to Linux would be more appropriate to have links of those sort to really help us along. Just a suggestion.

I am not trying to be a jerk here, I promise. I am just a living example of one of the problems with Linux - the Linux community *in general* seems to think that the rest of the world is as technically computer savvy as they are.

well for more info on software management please see this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644478) thread

[Masterj15]

I have to disagree about "Linux being different, not hard." (Please note that I am not bashing Linux here. I just installed it today and I plan on sticking with it, but there is a HUGE learning curve). People *don't* just use Windows because it comes installed on their computers. They use it because it is easy. I have a B.S. degree in Computer Systems Management, and have worked the IT field for 10 years. All of my exposure has been in the Windows environment though, so I do not know Linux. Now, let me give you an example.

In Windows, if I want to install a program, I download it, double-click on an executable, and it installs itself. 5 minutes later I click on an icon and I am up and running.

The first message in this thread recommended a program for your iPod, gtkpod. I downloaded it and extracted the files from the archive. I browsed to the folder it placed them, and was presented with a bunch of files I have no idea what to do with. I see one file called, "Install" and think to myself, oh, that must be the installer. I double-clicked on the Install file, and find myself reading a text file. Here are some excerpts from it:



What??? What the heck does any of that mean? I'm not trying to be funny here, Thats all gibberish to me! :confused:

It goes on...


As a practical example, let's say the libmp4v2 software was
installed in $HOME/Applications/mpeg4ip and the libid3tag software
was installed in $HOME/Applications/libid3tag, and you want to
install gtkpod into $HOME/Applications/gtkpod. Do this instead:

CFLAGS="-I$HOME/Applications/mpeg4ip/include -L$HOME/Applications/mpeg4ip/lib -I$HOME/Applications/libid3tag/include -L$HOME/Applications/libid3tag/lib" ./configure --prefix=$HOME/Applications/gtkpod ; make ; make install

Since none of this means any sense to me, I don't know what I am going to do. Certainly not install this program.

No, it is not even close to being as easy as Windows. If a professional computer analyst struggles with it, how is a novice, like most of the rest of the world is, supposed to know what the heck it takes to do something like install this simple little program?

More stable than Windows? Yes. Uses less resources than Windows? Yes. Can you do anything in Linux that you can do in Windows? I'll take your word on it, yes. It is as user friendly as Windows? Not even close - doesn't compare. And *that* is why the general public uses Windows. Wish me luck in learning this thing!

Dude, you started out with a hard time. Usually I would prefer something that was in the packages manager first. Therefore you get the feel of installing before you try compiling. I learned the hard way and I thought Linux was the hardest OS ever. Until I got internet. lololol

You should try some basic terminal commands, download from synaptic, and play around with stuff that you might enjoy Once you get the hang of that, then try compiling.

Its not hard really, You just need to remember the steps. :)

I have a BA degree in English, and I have never worked in the IT field. Almost all of my exposure has been in Windows environments. I've had to use Macs a little bit as well. Everything I know about Linux is from the internet. Now, let me give you an example.

In Ubuntu, if I want to install a program, I go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, I search for the name or description of the program, mark it for installation, and then click Apply. A minute and a half later, it's installed and ready to run.


No, I didn't. See my point? From the title of this thread, and that fact that it says right at the top of the first post that it is for Windows users new to Ubuntu, I would have assumed that these would have been simple programs that someone who was a novice to Linux would be able to understand.

I am glad that to hear that there are one click installs out there. So far (in my 1 day of looking!) I have not found any. Perhaps a thread for people migrating from Windows to Linux would be more appropriate to have links of those sort to really help us along. Just a suggestion.

I am not trying to be a jerk here, I promise. I am just a living example of one of the problems with Linux - the Linux community *in general* seems to think that the rest of the world is as technically computer savvy as they are.

Do you know how old I am? Do you know how long I've been with Ubuntu? I have only been with Ubuntu for 1 year and I had some of the most troubling times installing Ubuntu. I'm only 16 and I felt like no one was helping me. Sure, their are some programs that need compiling and all that other stuff but that is only some. Most programs are compiled into a nice deb. package. I don't think that the Linux community seems that the rest of the world is as computer savvy. I think that Linux community sees the world as a world that can improve. Trust me, were not all that computer savvy (though some actually are) we just toke a chance with Linux and found out that its not so hard.


Is that your sarcastic way of telling me I'm just an idiot who doesn't get it, and *everyone* in the world should know about Synaptic Package Manager (as you roll your eyes)?

By the way, I just went to Synaptic Package Manager and there is nothing in there about gtkpod, nor could I figure out how to get it added. I'll keep working on it.

Again, I am not starting an OS war. In my original message I gave props to Linux for being better in every category *except* user friendliness. Unfortunately, that is a critical one. And I am glad to hear that it was such an easy transition for you. I guess I am just an idiot.

For a second you got me upset because of the way your started out that post (I'm from the tricks tutorials forum so I take some things as a threat. lololol) It is user friendly but it is misunderstood. If you have been used to windows your whole life (this is an example) then what you perceive as "user friendly" can be altered. Lets put it this way:

With windows you can install one program at a time and it will be done in 5 secs. With Linux you can install 10 programs and it will be done in 5 secs. With windows you have to restart for some programs to take effect. With Linux you never have to restart unless you have to put in new hardware. I view windows user friendly because most windows programs never need and work done to get them complied and all that other stuff. I view Linux user friendly because you never have to look for programs. (unless their not in the sources. But those type of program are not hard to find) You can just go to add/remove and get whatever program you need. Plus compiz-fusion makes a difference.

edit: All you people who went to college are so lucky. (I would have thought that jcparker500 would have known about Linux through college but I really don't know about collage that much) I don't think degrees are what shows that your good with Linux or computers for that matter. I view experience as the greatest way to know if you good with computers. I know that I won't be able to afford collage because I'm poor. My family is poor and its hard to make ends meet. In the end I will probably never be on computers because I will have to find a job and get on with my life. A collage cost alot of money and I know that you never get what you want in life. So all these degrees don't mean anything to me. If just a paper in my eyes.:)

[Masterj15]

That is some great stuff, RO, Thanks!!

see! you ask for something and something will be givin to you. I found that with windows I could get all of these people helping me.:)

[jcparker500]

Dude, you started out with a hard time. Usually I would prefer something that was in the packages manager first. Therefore you get the feel of installing before you try compiling.
Well, I figured that since this *is* a thread for new users to Ubuntu from Windows, that those would all be novice friendly links. I guess I was wrong about that! 8-[

I have yet to get add/remove or software sources to work yet, but maybe this weekend!




edit: All you people who went to college are so lucky. (I would have thought that jcparker500 would have known about Linux through college but I really don't know about collage that much) I don't think degrees are what shows that your good with Linux or computers for that matter. I view experience as the greatest way to know if you good with computers. I know that I won't be able to afford collage because I'm poor. My family is poor and its hard to make ends meet. In the end I will probably never be on computers because I will have to find a job and get on with my life. A collage cost alot of money and I know that you never get what you want in life. So all these degrees don't mean anything to me. If just a paper in my eyes.:)

Let me just say that people with college degrees aren't necessarily smarter than someone with experience and no degree, but it is a proven fact that those with college degrees make more money than those without. Its just a fact of life. I urge you to try and get a scholarship, it can be done. There are many grants out there for low income families. Don't give up yet, my friend, you are only 16. I have a son who is 16, so if I'm sounding like a father figure, its because I am! :-\" BTW, I didn't mention my degree to brag about it, I was just pointing out that here I am with a college degree in computers and *I* can't figure it out! And yes, they do offer Linux courses in college, but I didn't have to take them for my degree. Wish I would have.

You come across as someone who is very bright and that could do well in the world. I appreciate your message to me and the encouragement, I really want to be good at this stuff, so sometimes when I post here I may be a little frustrated because there is nothing natural about Linux (such as no drive letters) after coming from Windows.

Let me give you one last bit of advice - if you love computers, don't make it your career choice! Doing it for a living in the high stress world that IT is takes all the fun out of it!

Ok, does anyone have a link to a program that I can listen to my iPod with and not have to compile it? That would really be a good start to help get me going! :biggrin:

[Masterj15]

Well, I figured that since this *is* a thread for new users to Ubuntu from Windows, that those would all be novice friendly links. I guess I was wrong about that! 8-[

I have yet to get add/remove or software sources to work yet, but maybe this weekend!




Let me just say that people with college degrees aren't necessarily smarter than someone with experience and no degree, but it is a proven fact that those with college degrees make more money than those without. Its just a fact of life. I urge you to try and get a scholarship, it can be done. There are many grants out there for low income families. Don't give up yet, my friend, you are only 16. I have a son who is 16, so if I'm sounding like a father figure, its because I am! :-\" BTW, I didn't mention my degree to brag about it, I was just pointing out that here I am with a college degree in computers and *I* can't figure it out! And yes, they do offer Linux courses in college, but I didn't have to take them for my degree. Wish I would have.

You come across as someone who is very bright and that could do well in the world. I appreciate your message to me and the encouragement, I really want to be good at this stuff, so sometimes when I post here I may be a little frustrated because there is nothing natural about Linux (such as no drive letters) after coming from Windows.

Let me give you one last bit of advice - if you love computers, don't make it your career choice! Doing it for a living in the high stress world that IT is takes all the fun out of it!

Ok, does anyone have a link to a program that I can listen to my iPod with and not have to compile it? That would really be a good start to help get me going! :biggrin:

I'm going to either show you how to compile it or get the deb package for you. hold on :)

[Masterj15]

I got some good new for you.

http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=gtkpod

www.getdeb.net is a great place to download stuff without any hassle.

edit: also I looked in synaptic packages manager and they have gtkpod. I didn't have to add any sources at all. The only reason why I llike synaptic is because they tell you what you need in order for the program to work. So you won't need decencies. They just download all the things for you.:)

[ubuntu-freak]

I got some good new for you.

http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=gtkpod

www.getdeb.net is a great place to download stuff without any hassle.

edit: also I looked in synaptic packages manager and they have gtkpod. I didn't have to add any sources at all. The only reason why I llike synaptic is because they tell you what you need in order for the program to work. So you won't need decencies. They just download all the things for you.:)


You seem very jolly and chuffed with that helpful and well made program Synaptic. :-)

Are you always this cheerful? If I was a female I'd say it's heartwarming, but I'm too male and British to say that so I won't.

Welcome to Ubuntu ;-)

Nathan

[Masterj15]

I'm always happy when it comes to Ubuntu. :)

[forrestcupp]

The first message in this thread recommended a program for your iPod, gtkpod. I downloaded it and extracted the files from the archive. I browsed to the folder it placed them, and was presented with a bunch of files I have no idea what to do with. I see one file called, "Install" and think to myself, oh, that must be the installer. I double-clicked on the Install file, and find myself reading a text file.

Well, the bad thing is that one of your first experiences with Ubuntu was like this. First impressions are not always right. I wish that you weren't recommended to install a program like this right off the bat because it's a misrepresentation of what things are really like.

Most of the time, we can install almost everything we would want from Synaptic, the GUI software installer. You can either browse for things by category and read the descriptions of the program, or you can do a search by keywords to find exactly what you are looking for. When you find something you want, just click it and choose install, then click the apply button. If you can find what you need in Synaptic, it is even easier than doing it in Windows, because everything is organized in one place, and Synaptic does all of the work for you. A lot of projects that aren't in Synaptic have repositories that have installer packages built specifically for Ubuntu. Usually their web sites will explain how to get their repository included in Synaptic so you can just install it that way.

Do a search in these forums for "ipod sync" and I'll bet you'll find ways to do it with programs that can be installed easily in Synaptic. Don't just go by this thread, there are thousands of threads on this forum to help you with about any specific thing you could need.

[ubuntu-freak]

That's very true. I didn't even register here until 6-months after I started using Ubuntu. Found all of my answers by searching Google with "query ubuntuforums" or just "query ubuntu". Worked well.

Nathan

[bufsabre666]

i didnt even know this site existed till i was using ubuntu for about 1.5 years, even then i didnt register for a while

[jcparker500]

I really appreciate all of the advice from everyone. I can't wait to get home from work tonight and see what I can do!

[Masterj15]

cool! :)

[jcparker500]

Man, this stuff rocks!! (Add/Remove Applications works now) \\:D/

This is amazing - I was like a kid in a candy store! There was this massive list of applications (including gtkpod) - I just checked the boxes, went and had a snack, and I came back and had 10 new applications installed. Incredible!

I told you guys this thing blew Windows away! :wink:

[Masterj15]

Man, this stuff rocks!! (Add/Remove Applications works now) \\:D/

This is amazing - I was like a kid in a candy store! There was this massive list of applications (including gtkpod) - I just checked the boxes, went and had a snack, and I came back and had 10 new applications installed. Incredible!

I told you guys this thing blew Windows away! :wink:

awesome! Happy to see that you having fun. :) What I am going to do make a web page that has alot of howtos and experiences regarding situations with Ubuntu. I will be hard but fun. :)