haha noob website making

[tater_3001]

ok i have recently been tasked with making the website for my school robotics team as we are competing in the FIRST competition. only problem is i have never made a website before and dont even kno where to start. what applictions should i use? windows or my trusty home ubuntu computer? what language? any help regarding any of this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Turner

[glotz]

Perhaps try http://www.kompozer.net/

What ever you do, make a proper standards compliant web page. Here are the basic tools http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/

[tater_3001]

Thanks for the speedy reply!!! ha i will check them out.. thank you. Turner

[glotz]

You're welcome. There will be some bugs in the kompoZer, so watch out. :)

[banewman]

I found this a good starting place -
http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/
good luck :)

[StooJ]

I've found W3Schools (http://w3schools.com/) are a great way to start with any web stuff.

Ubuntu has some good editors for writing web pages (Bluefish etc) but the best way to learn (if you want to learn how to make web pages) is to go with a plain text editor. Or Scite.

HTML is your first port of call: a nice and simple language.

If you're not interested in learning page development I'm sure there are plenty of WYSIWYG editors about, and web based ones too. Sorry I can't point you to one of them though.

[erfahren]

I have some info about that on my site - thee's links to where you can get free quality templates too
http://erfahren.bravehost.com/link_pages/links_info.html

(-- just realized I need to change a couple small things there!)

[LaRoza]

ok i have recently been tasked with making the website for my school robotics team as we are competing in the FIRST competition. only problem is i have never made a website before and dont even kno where to start. what applictions should i use? windows or my trusty home ubuntu computer? what language? any help regarding any of this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Turner

Perhaps you need to find someone else on the team with the knowledge.

What are the requirements for this site? Perhaps I could whip something up for you.

[pmasiar]

Simplest website what you can make in single afternoon is free wiki at pbwiki.com - like the one in my sig (only you can make it nicer :-) )

[LaRoza]

Simplest website what you can make in single afternoon is free wiki at pbwiki.com - like the one in my sig (only you can make it nicer :-) )

Or my site and my pbwiki :)

The link in my sig goes to my web page (not my wiki anymore)

@OP If you like the way my page is laid out, I can easily alter it to fit your colour and number of pages. The way I write my code, you don't have to fiddle with code to put content in the pages, easy to maintain.

<edit>If the site seems odd, I am editing the stylesheet</edit>

@pmasiar Yes, I write PHP, but don't mix it with markup, how about that...:)

[imon9]

use http://www.wordpress.com
if u know how to blog... making website is almost as simple

take a look at the simple website i made for my graduation project
http://m2grads2008.wordpress.com

if u dun want something too simple and like to wastetime coding...use NVU

[LaRoza]

use http://www.wordpress.com
if u know how to blog... making website is almost as simple

take a look at the simple website i made for my graduation project
http://m2grads2008.wordpress.com

if u dun want something too simple and like to wastetime coding...use NVU

Making a web site is not as simple as blogging. Making a website requires knowledge of various standardized technologies and how each client implements them. Also, you have to take into consideration any reasonable setup the client will use, thus, you have to make the site degrade gracefully.

"wastetime coding"? Don't recommend a WYSIWYG for "coding", Gedit is just fine. Why do you consider having perfect control over one's site as "wastingtime"?

[imon9]

Making a web site is not as simple as blogging. Making a website requires knowledge of various standardized technologies and how each client implements them. Also, you have to take into consideration any reasonable setup the client will use, thus, you have to make the site degrade gracefully.

"wastetime coding"? Don't recommend a WYSIWYG for "coding", Gedit is just fine. Why do you consider having perfect control over one's site as "wastingtime"?

i kindda felt the flame here..hahah

of course, coding a website using notepad/gedit is pretty good, if one knows what they are doing...

apparently the guy who asked about making the website is a newbies in html coding...thus i responded with the most rational choice for him

as per coding and waste of time, i really couldn't decided wether not it is valid point. For your knowledge, i do have good knowledge in website writing, including written a php scripting for my previous sites ground-up...and i run LAMP and several other type of server

for me, i just do it for interest in learning a new language...

but for time-efficient reason, WYSIWYG editor is much better in many ways for most users.

reason for using www.wordpress.com instead of conterpart like blogspot is that wordpress provide ability to write "pages" in addition to "blog entry"

as such, u can see at the link of my site earlier, that it is possible to make the site functional and easy for administration...

do realise that for website to continue to work is the flexibility to be updated by another person... thus here, new pages can be added relatively easier than custom written sites (coz another person need to study the whoe page structure before adding new page)

[rendon]

The biggest beginner hardships to making a website are not coding html.

Although learning html is imporant, I would give the advice of understanding how the webpage(s) is to be served first. This is usually the great leap into the world of www.

There will have to be a server involved. Do you have a server?

If not, do plan on finding one. If you have funds then I would recommend spending 5 dollars a month to have a quality server space to run your pages on.

step two would be a domain name, and learning how to connect the domain name to the server.

I use bmhost.com for server space (as low as $5 or $10 a month last time I checked) and doster.com for a domain name (about $15 a year). Not too expensive in my opinion.

but if you don't have the funds, then you might want to find a free service... I don't know who provides such services these days. back in the day it used to be geocities.com, hehe :) don't know if that's still happening.

The 3rd step would be understanding how to put your webpages onto this server machine. Your service provider will probably tell you that you have an option of FTP or SFTP uploading, or else they have some online webpage interface that will allow you to login and upload your pages. You'll have to study that.

After you understand these 3 steps you can start having fun and call yourself a webmaster.

[altonbr]

Check out this similar thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651977

All sorts of great posts.

[pmasiar]

If OP uses wiki, no understanding of HTML (or web server technology is necessary).

Whole point of wiki is using simplified non-HTML markup.

[LaRoza]

If OP uses wiki, no understanding of HTML (or web server technology is necessary).

Whole point of wiki is using simplified non-HTML markup.

A wiki would be a good choice for the OP given the level of experience and need.

@OP pbwiki and wikidot are good wiki's to look into. http://pbwiki.com/ http://www.wikidot.com/

[LaRoza]

but for time-efficient reason, WYSIWYG editor is much better in many ways for most users.

do realise that for website to continue to work is the flexibility to be updated by another person... thus here, new pages can be added relatively easier than custom written sites (coz another person need to study the whoe page structure before adding new page)

Perhaps in the short run, but I have yet to see markup worth using come out of a WYSIWYG editor.

Like a wiki? Yes, that route was already mentioned and endorsed.

However, my sites are easy to maintain as the code and content are kept separate.

[tater_3001]

haha.. i go to school and look at all this.. ha wow.. thank you all.. also i am the only one on the team that has any past experiences with any type of code... i used to do basic when i had windows.. it just needs to be a simple site that shows what we are doing and explains everything.. i would like to have a seperate page for pictures and one for construction designs and etc. all branching from a home page... would i be best starting from scratch or from a template? i downloaded and installed kompoZer and opened it and i didn't kno at all where to start so i am gonna get some documentation tonight.. or would i be better off with a different program? Thanks for all the help, Turner

[tater_3001]

I think i am gonna do a pbwiki because it looks really easy to use and looks pretty professional.. the only thing i wonder is if i google it or need to link it to a central homepage from the FIRST organization page can I? Thank you all for the help.. maybe someday i will learn to do it for real.. ha thanks again Turner

[LaRoza]

I think i am gonna do a pbwiki because it looks really easy to use and looks pretty professional.. the only thing i wonder is if i google it or need to link it to a central homepage from the FIRST organization page can I? Thank you all for the help.. maybe someday i will learn to do it for real.. ha thanks again Turner

You can link anything to it. My homepage (which is experiencing technical difficulties, so it may look weird), the first link in my sig, links to my wiki, my other wiki, and my forum for my wikis.

[tater_3001]

ha ya.. i realized that after i started.. ha and i sent a sitemap to google so hopefully it will be indexed pretty soon so then ya.. thanks to all of you... idk what i would have done with out you guys.. ha thanks, Turner

[LaRoza]

idk what i would have done with out you guys.. ha thanks, Turner

You'd have figured it out for yourself, like I did :)

Good luck and have fun.