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brucewagner
January 10th, 2008, 05:47 PM
I'd love you to read my blog article about Ubuntu and new users, and tell me your thoughts, check it for accuracy, etc.
See: http://brucewagner.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/superior-to-windows-or-mac-new-york-times/
Please let me know if you find any inaccuracies, etc.
Thanks!
az
January 10th, 2008, 05:52 PM
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2007/12/29/december_2007_web_server_survey.html
Most web servers run apache, but it's not 99 percent. And apache runs on other OSes than just linux.
And you harp on the free-as-in-zero-dollars, but most of the software in Ubuntu is free as in software freedom, too. That's a lot more important, since freeware can come and go. FLOSS is *not* freeware...
tigerplug
January 10th, 2008, 05:55 PM
“But since common tasks like watching a movie or syncing an iPod require hunting for and installing extra software"
Perhaps this individual is looking at the answer rather than the problem?
In the linux community its imoportant to remember that the glass is ALWAYS half full.
"Syncing an iPod has nothing to do with Ubuntu, it has to do with Apple. "
Agree strongly
"Apple writes terribly sloppy software. The iTunes program crashes and flakes out all the time running on Windows."
What do you base this assumption on? - How many years experience have you got as a programmer?
I would put it down to a mixture of the two (no software is perfect) , memory management is a big issue... but the Windows registry leaves much to be desired also.
However, it is important to take everyones contribution to Technology into consideration.
I would not say Apple writes sloppy software at all - unless you care to give me a few other examples
brucewagner
January 10th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Most web servers run apache, but it's not 99 percent. And apache runs on other OSes than just linux.
On the site you reference, they list the main site platforms as: Apache, Microsoft, Google, lighttpd, and Sun.
I assume that Apache, Google and Sun are Linux. And Microsoft is Windows. Is that a safe assumption? And what about lightpod? Is that Linux or Windows?
And you harp on the free-as-in-zero-dollars, but most of the software in Ubuntu is free as in software freedom, too. That's a lot more important, since freeware can come and go. FLOSS is *not* freeware...
You are absolutely correct.
Unfortunately, the masses don't yet understand the concept. They've never even heard of it. They only know a world of Microsoft and Quicken. They do, however, understand the concept of zero-dollars-cost.
My thinking is... "It doesn't matter what door they enter from,"... Once they're here... they'll learn about all the other benefits.
tigerplug
January 10th, 2008, 06:13 PM
On the site you reference, they list the main site platforms as: Apache, Microsoft, Google, lighttpd, and Sun.
I assume that Apache, Google and Sun are Linux. And Microsoft is Windows. Is that a safe assumption? And what about lightpod? Is that Linux or Windows?
Apache Runs on Windows and Unix
Microsoft = IIS or Apache (from my experience as an administrator its Apache more often than not and usually IIS within enterprises internal sites etc).
Unix - Everything else with a few exceptions, runs Apache, Mongrel etc.
brucewagner
January 10th, 2008, 06:21 PM
What do you base this assumption on? - How many years experience have you got as a programmer?
I would put it down to a mixture of the two (no software is perfect) , memory management is a big issue... but the Windows registry leaves much to be desired also.
However, it is important to take everyones contribution to Technology into consideration.
would not say Apple writes sloppy software at all - unless you care to give me a few other examples
I make this statement, "Apple writes sloppy software", simply based on the fact that, as a user of their software, I see it (iTunes) crash often, and unexpectedly, randomly... and I see it launch multiple copies of itself, and get all confused... until you close all of its windows and re-launch it from scratch. I see these EXACT SAME symptoms appear on every Windows machine I've been around, and all my Windows/iTunes using friends report the same symptoms.
Other Windows programs (like uTorrent for example) are rock solid, and don't crash.
It's simple logic to come to my conclusion therefore.
Not to mention that 3 of us here have iPhones. Don't even get me started on how they crash, and the apps crash, and they get bogged down and unresponsive, and...
As to the other issue...
What percentage of web site servers would you say run Windows... versus Linux or Unix...?
az
January 10th, 2008, 06:24 PM
On the site you reference, they list the main site platforms as: Apache, Microsoft, Google, lighttpd, and Sun.
I assume that Apache, Google and Sun are Linux. And Microsoft is Windows. Is that a safe assumption? And what about lightpod? Is that Linux or Windows?
Those are not platforms. They are not operating systems. They are the web server software. For example, Apache can run on linux, BSD, Sun and Microsoft operating systems.
You are absolutely correct.
Unfortunately, the masses don't yet understand the concept.
That's what blogs are for.
The EULA of Free-Libre Open Source software doesn't require that you give up any of your rights. That's the fundamental difference between an OS like Ubuntu and an OS like Windows.
tigerplug
January 10th, 2008, 06:31 PM
I see these EXACT SAME symptoms appear on every Windows machine I've been around
Interesting, perhaps you give off some sort of electromagnetic freq or something like that?
.... I have never had trouble with iTunes.
As for the iPhone crashing well... to the best of my knowledge it is definately based on a freeBSD / Darwin (Derived from the first) subsystem.
These things happen - computer systems crash.
HUMANS write the applications. Unfortunately, unlike computers (In most cases) Humans can make mistakes.
macogw
January 11th, 2008, 03:48 AM
On the site you reference, they list the main site platforms as: Apache, Microsoft, Google, lighttpd, and Sun.
I assume that Apache, Google and Sun are Linux. And Microsoft is Windows. Is that a safe assumption?
No. I'd assume Sun probably ran Solaris (AKA Sun OS), since, you know, they make it.
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