Ubuntu V.S. Kubuntu

[Sabar]

Could some one please explain to me what the differences are between Ubuntu and Kubuntu? I don't really understand the Gnome V.S. KDE thing.

So from a users point of view what are the pluses and minus between the two, or does one just have a brown screen while the other is blue? one has the tool bar at the top of the screen the other has it at the bottom.

Currently I am running Feisty with and XP duel boot. ( haven't booted windows in months )

And on a second computer I am running Gutsy. Been thinking about giving Kubuntu a try just to see what it is like and what all it has.

If some one could tell me what to look out for so I will notice the diferances I would really appreciate it.

thanks:
Sabar

[rsambuca]

Try this site (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome) for a comparison. Basically just apples and oranges. I prefer Gnome, bit I will say that KDE is a lot more configurable.

[jedijf]

The beauty of Linux is the choice available. Just try it. Try it virtually, try it live, or spare a partition and do a full blown test.

Reading a comparison will just waste the install time of the above test methods.

Once setup, use it for about two weeks and then YOU can determine what your likes and dislikes are.

Then, do the same for Xubuntu and xfce.

HAVE A BLAST.

[Sabar]

Well I did go ahead and load Kubuntu into the system. and it does seem ok. defiantly something new to learn, what with all the new names for most things.

Now the bad news seems I messed things up already. I went to a site that had a short movie and it said I had to load some kind of Java script or something, it even came up with the download. so I left it do everything automatically. well the computer frooze up and now after trying to restart it all I get is

First the screen for going to bios then nothing but a courser at the top left of the screen. I can not even type anything in there. Looks like I may be doing a reload. :)

Well that was the reason I wanted the other computer in the first place. so I could try things and if I nuked the system I wouldnt have to be killed by the wife...............

What the hell.. looks like Kubuntu is now loading. I was just sitting here watch the little courser for the last 5 mins or so. when I started typing this.

Here is something some one may be able to answer. I loaded Ubuntu then I Loaded a downloaded version of Kubuntu why does it automatically go to Kubuntu? doesn't it ever give me a choice of what to run?

Thanks for being helpful to such a noobie
Sabar

[Sn3ipen]

When you come to the log in screen you can click on "sesion" or something like that.

[anjilslaire]

You don't even need to reinstall kubuntu to try it from your ubuntu installation.
From inside Gnome (ubuntu), open Synaptic, search for kubuntu-desktop, and install it.
Thats it. You're done.
Log out, click the "sessions" button, and change to KDE. Log in. Now you see kubuntu. Keep it, uninstall it, whatever.
From the login screen, select your choice from the Sessions menu. And best of all, its teh same OS, different GUI, so all your stuff is still in /home.

[mikedep333]

Don't forget that you can use many GNOME apps within KDE and many KDE apps within GNOME. For example, I use K3b within Gnome, but Synaptic within KDE.

And yes, follow advice in the last two posts to switch between the two desktop environments on the same computer.

[lamalex]

But also don't forget that while yes you can use KDE apps in GNOME and GNOME apps in KDE, you're bringing with it all the libraries it needs to run, so if you're on a system with less ram you will notice the bloat.

How has this managed to stay civilized? Why are we not having the 'is bloated vs. not as robust' fight?

[mt1234]

Thanks everyone! I was reading along and got the answer to my question. I was wondering why I was seeing KDE software available in the Ubuntu Software Center. Now, I know I can install it and use it. Thanks! :p

[KingOfDeath]

Well the both Have Same Progams And Stuuf The Difference Is The Desktop Like Ubuntu Is Gnome And Kubuntu Is Kde
I Used To uUse Ubuntu Its a coool Linux Os And Easy To Use Otherways Kde Is Like the same But Its Kinda confusing But its Dekstop Effect IS Cooler.
And You Also CaN SWITCH WITH kde AND Gnome and xubuntu

[dark_harmonics]

I personally prefer gnome right now. I really like where kde is going, but i think i've just grown very used to gnome and its applications. Every few months i give it another try because you just never know how things have changed until you live in it. I do the same thing with food. I might not like cocktail shrimp today, but tomorrow who knows?

[NightwishFan]

I would say give both a try on a live CD. Do not knock it until you tried it.

Opinion:
I was a KDE user for almost 2 years, up until 4.1. KDE currently has a policy of implementing every half-finished feature they think of. I particularly enjoy using Ark and Dolphin. Not only does Ark not support that many file types, it has repetitive menu options in the file browser. It also gives you options to create archives that you do not currently have support for (like rar without unrar package). It's interface is fine, and I like QT at large, however I prefer a more organized desktop, so basically now I use Gnome. ;]

This link sums it up fantastically.
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=570

[AlexanderAzimov]

I just flat out use Gnome, since I'm used to it. But since My friend is giving me his old laptop with <<Back|Track 4 on it. I will be using in that sense KUbuntu intrepid. Since that's what B/T's desktop environment is based on now. So I will have the honor of using both systems,On diffrent laptops. However as it stands my heart belongs to Gnome and regular Ubuntu.

-Ciao,
Azimov

[Rytron]

I opt for GNOME.

[rugbeeprop]

I agree with the beauty of Linux is that we as users have the CHOICE of what flavour we like!

I have been using Ubuntu since 2007 and overtime, I have been switching back and forth between Ubuntu and Kubuntu (at one point in time Xbuntu). Overally, I like Ubuntu better for its simplicity, which http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome said that sometimes too simple, which is true.

At the end of the day, there are always two sides of each coin. On one hand, Gnome gives us the simplicity and what most of us need. KDE gives us as much bells and whistles we could handle.

I like KDE for its features but on day to day usage, Gnome is the best for myself.

[ubunterooster]

I prefer the lightweights. For me the UI is not to impress with effects; it is to do the job while staying out of the way. So, I'm the guy who will use Xfce and lx11, but when you come over, I show you KDE to impress you.

[cheapie]

I have Fluxbox, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE installed. I call it ukuluxubuntu.

[nutsy.ben]

You don't even need to reinstall kubuntu to try it from your ubuntu installation.
From inside Gnome (ubuntu), open Synaptic, search for kubuntu-desktop, and install it.
Thats it. You're done.
Log out, click the "sessions" button, and change to KDE. Log in. Now you see kubuntu. Keep it, uninstall it, whatever.
From the login screen, select your choice from the Sessions menu. And best of all, its teh same OS, different GUI, so all your stuff is still in /home.

REALLY GOOD TIP TO TRY KUBUNTU OUT .....
My problem is mostly that I love music, Amarok is/--was one of the best player (until the version 1.4). It has now many and reccurent bugs under ubuntu. It drives me nuts and would not be worse to try Kubuntu just for this. But before I wanted to know if I would feel comfy with kubuntu.

[paggeau1]

i have recently upgraded to Kubuntu, had several problems, email links in thunderbird wouldn't open "tried several fixes but they didn't work" when loading a DVD with data on it it wouldn't open and couldn't find the DVD player anywhere? found the floppy but not the DVD. Dragon Player wouldn't play movie,s, Compiz wouldn't work as well? rotate cube didn't work and it kept reverting back to defaults had to constantly "resume desktop effects" ive since gone back to Ubuntu and everything works fine? Ubuntu seems to be a much more stable system although i prefer Kubuntu for its appearance, maybe in a few months they will get the bugs worked out, so for those of you who are asking which one is better this has been my experience, back to the basics of Ubuntu.

Patrick

[Chris_28]

I'm now on Windows 7, planning to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu. If I'm correct I can install Ubuntu and Kubuntu on 1 partition and then choose which one to log into?

[Rytron]

I'm now on Windows 7, planning to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu. If I'm correct I can install Ubuntu and Kubuntu on 1 partition and then choose which one to log into?

Yes. Install Ubuntu and then go to Synaptic Packet Manager to install kubuntu-desktop

OR

open a terminal and put this in:


sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Put in your own login password when asked.

At the login screen you can choose which session to use. GNOME or KDE. Hope this helps you.

[forgewire]

):Yeah, look at latest Ubuntu Natty (poor imitation of MacOS Aqua) and you will run away like rocket.
Toooooooooooooootal crap!
I will go back to ******* rather than use that ****!
Smoke on that Canonical):P

[plurworldinc]

Unity is a new beginning for Ubuntu and a step in the right direction for mainstreaming the OS. I am not the biggest fan of Unity, but it works great on my old laptop that was running slow as hell with 10.10. Now I am up to speed and running Gnome3 on my desktop.

[ted_rmt]

Unity is the deault in 11.04, but for now it is still optional. 11.04 comes with the gnome desktop as an option when you log in as well.

Trying to see if I can have KDE as a third option and will report back on how it worked and what I liked about each of them.

[ted_rmt]

It is true! Viewing KDE is as simple as running the apt-get command, as Rytron posted.

It will require you to authenticate and will stop twice, once to tell you it will use 340 Meg of hard drive space and again to ask if you want KDE or Gnome as a default desktop.

When it restarted, it temporarily gave me the Kubuntu splash screen, and restarted with a baby blue blank screen instead of the purple one, but after that 11.04 Ubuntu startup was the same.

It adds a KDE ubuntu session in the sessions options on the login screen. Log in and you are using KDE!

Initial impression: KDE is beautiful, or at least the defaults are. Someone much more artistically inclined chose the background wallpaper and matched it up with the "oxygen" window decorations. Of the three, ubuntu gnome (austere) unity (cartoony launchpad) and KDE, KDE is by far the nicest looking out of the box.

Unity - Launchpad and dash will be best suited for touch applications for tablets or mobile devices.

Gnome - Think icons. Easy to change appearance of icons for anything, including custom launchers on the panel. Easy to customise panels and place them where you want. Freely move little icons on your panels.

KDE - only had it for a day, but: Widgets are super easy to apply. Consistency for configuration and resizing of windows and widgets. Config strip appears when you hover over an image and auto hides. Configuration menus are not so intuitive and take a little figuring.

Administrative tool access: Gnome, great. Drop down lists allow you to find admin and preferences fast.
KDE very good. Menu on the panel with grouped lists.
Unity- Poor. Dash has selections for Applications that are poorly grouped and lumped together on the dash. Valuable dash space consumed by advertised apps available for download that narrow your field of view so you need to scroll down to look through the list of Apps. (Similar to digging through a really big bag with a really small opening) If the dash was made to allow apps to be seen at a glance, they have failed.
Unity does have a proper grouped list in a Control Centre, similar to KDE or Mint (gnome) hidden under the shut down options in a choice called System settings.

File management. KDE allows configuration to show only certain file types to simplify views of individual folders. It does not auto-launch executable text files , but gives access to the terminal from a folder, telling the terminal which directory you are in, so you can just type in a single command to run the shell.

Gnome and Unity have a GUI option for running executable text files. Popup asks if you want to run, display or run in terminal. Easier than KDE for those who have no knowledge of terminal commands.

[ted_rmt]

KDE is fast and functional. I was a gnome user before but I may be hooked on KDE.

Thanks for this thread. I thought I would have to install the KDE distro to use it.

Only thing gnome has on KDE that I used was the ability to take panel icons and unlock their position to move them anywhere you want.

[felixq78]

You don't even need to reinstall kubuntu to try it from your ubuntu installation.
From inside Gnome (ubuntu), open Synaptic, search for kubuntu-desktop, and install it.
Thats it. You're done.
Log out, click the "sessions" button, and change to KDE. Log in. Now you see kubuntu. Keep it, uninstall it, whatever.
From the login screen, select your choice from the Sessions menu. And best of all, its teh same OS, different GUI, so all your stuff is still in /home.

Wow I didn't know that it was that easy to load Kubuntu. I'd be downloading the 702mb ISO burning a disk etc etc
They must be almost exactly the same OS with a slightly different desktop. Thanks for the info.

[ubunterooster]

:-? Necromancer much? It's only been over 1.5 years

[vgezer]

I read the whole post and would like to ask something related to this:

Are Ubuntu developers also Kubuntu developers? I mean for Kubuntu is there any other changes except for KDE?

Because in installation I had a problem. It did not see my windows 7 system and had to use WUBI to install...

The second problem was the brightness keys. It simply did not change the brightness, but on Ubuntu it did. I needed to play with the conf file to fix this.

Thanks in advance.

[matiche]

Could some one please explain to me what the differences are between Ubuntu and Kubuntu? I don't really understand the Gnome V.S. KDE thing.

So from a users point of view what are the pluses and minus between the two, or does one just have a brown screen while the other is blue? one has the tool bar at the top of the screen the other has it at the bottom.

Currently I am running Feisty with and XP duel boot. ( haven't booted windows in months )

And on a second computer I am running Gutsy. Been thinking about giving Kubuntu a try just to see what it is like and what all it has.

If some one could tell me what to look out for so I will notice the diferances I would really appreciate it.

thanks:
Sabar

side thing i've found out which is pretty stupid i had to go into settings and manualy make sure through there that num lock comes on when the pc does ubuntu i didn't have to. but positive side is the widgets for ku or really nice just which was better choices of them other wise if i knew how to get them on ubuntu really simply i'd possibly consider going back to ubuntu that and if the idiots told you folder browser is nataulis i didn't spell it right and you have to search the market for stuff to add to the browser dolphin you don't have to at all do that just can add more stuff to it through the program it self

[matiche]

oh side note bigest challenges i've had with eather is flac files super tempermental weather it wants to work or not and nidiswrapper basicly to get it to actualy work and not be stuff wifi less is put some of it's core files into core stuff for the os it's self other wise when ever kernal changes bam there went your internet untill nidis gives another update

[Elfy]

Not sure why this thread keeps getting dragged back - neither Ubuntu nor Kubuntu will be the same as they were 6 years ago .