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RAV TUX
November 23rd, 2007, 06:42 AM
OK normally I would click on Adobe Flash Player and all would be good.

This is the first time I saw the Gnash SWF Player option, so I figured what would it hurt I'll try it....

well it didn't work.

So I installed Adobe Flash Player via the terminal, guess what it still does not work.

Why is the Gnash SWF Player option given? I am all for supporting Open Source but it isn't ready to be included as an option.

So I just removed gnash hopefully Flash will work now.

FuturePilot
November 23rd, 2007, 06:46 AM
I think it's there to show that there is work being done on an open source version of a Flash player plugin. I also tried it, but it did not work too well. I went to Youtube and all the buttons were smooshed to one side :o

RAV TUX
November 23rd, 2007, 06:46 AM
OK normally I would click on Adobe Flash Player and all would be good.

This is the first time I saw the Gnash SWF Player option, so I figured what would it hurt I'll try it....

well it didn't work.

So I installed Adobe Flash Player via the terminal, guess what it still does not work.

Why is the Gnash SWF Player option given? I am all for supporting Open Source but it isn't ready to be included as an option.

So I just removed gnash hopefully Flash will work now.

After removing gnash all is good again.

RAV TUX
November 23rd, 2007, 06:48 AM
I think it's there to show that there is work being done on an open source version of a Flash player plugin. I also tried it, but it did not work too well. I went to Youtube and all the buttons were smooshed to one side :oI understand that and support such a thing but honestly if someone is new to Ubuntu this would be a turn off.

gnash is spotty at best, I would love to see it as a viable option but until it is even basically operational it should be left off.

EXCiD3
November 23rd, 2007, 06:50 AM
I wondered about that option. Never tried it, but i was going to look and see what the difference was first. I'm glad to see work is being put into an open source version...Adobe has a nack of making bloated software...

FuturePilot
November 23rd, 2007, 06:53 AM
I understand that and support such a thing but honestly if someone is new to Ubuntu this would be a turn off.

gnash is spotty at best, I would love to see it as a viable option but until it is even basically operational it should be left off.

I agree. I do support anything open source, but yeah, this might give new users the wrong impression.

-grubby
November 23rd, 2007, 06:56 AM
I did too try it and well, going to youtube, the video was just a white blob

loell
November 23rd, 2007, 07:04 AM
because adobe flash player can not be ditributed this way? ie(cd bundle to all) (http://www.adobe.com/licensing/)

that's why gnash became viable option. And gnash will become better overtime.

RAV TUX
November 23rd, 2007, 07:39 AM
because adobe flash player can not be ditributed this way? ie(cd bundle to all) (http://www.adobe.com/licensing/)

that's why gnash became viable option. And gnash will become better overtime.
Again until it becomes better or at least basically functional it should not be given as an option at this point in time.

-grubby
November 23rd, 2007, 07:42 AM
Again until it becomes better or at least basically functional it should not be given as an option at this point in time.

or at least put in the dialog:


Gnash(experimental)

or something to that effect

loell
November 23rd, 2007, 07:43 AM
Again until it becomes better or at least basically functional it should not be given as an option at this point in time.

its better to have one than none at this early point in time.

RAV TUX
November 23rd, 2007, 07:48 AM
or at least put in the dialog:


Gnash(experimental)

or something to that effect

I like this idea a lot,...at least a basic warning of some kind at first.

hanzomon4
November 23rd, 2007, 08:13 AM
I think it's there to show that there is work being done on an open source version of a Flash player plugin. I also tried it, but it did not work too well. I went to Youtube and all the buttons were smooshed to one side :o

Hahahaha, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!! :lolflag:

xqterry
November 29th, 2007, 04:06 AM
I think gnash does not support swf v9 now.

Harpalus
November 30th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Gnash is perfectly usable. It supports Flash up to version 7. Newer versions are being worked on - versions which many websites, Youtube included, use - but I wouldn't say that it's "not ready yet". By whose standards? The standard of Youtube? Plenty of other websites work fine with it. Flash is a moving target, and Gnash tries to redo all of their work in an open source manner.

It's not like Adobe's not developing Flash anymore - by the time Gnash supports everything up to the current version, a new Flash will be out. By your logic, it'll never be anything BUT experimental, due to it's very nature.

bruce89
November 30th, 2007, 07:49 PM
If Ubuntu had to have only things that work in the repositories, they'd have to rethink Firefox by default.

boast
November 30th, 2007, 08:40 PM
- by the time Gnash supports everything up to the current version, a new Flash will be out.

that sucks.

I hate flash- it is so buggy on both my ubuntu and mac .

qazwsx
November 30th, 2007, 08:49 PM
I noticed that gnash works well with dual cores hile I was playing simple and old swf animation (199 %CPU). It is not ready yet but once it it is there I belive it would give us some neat extra features. Does Adobe's player support multicores?

Darkhack
November 30th, 2007, 09:08 PM
I think it is quite stupid for Adobe to not open source Flash Player. The entire purpose of distributing the player for free is so that people will feel that Adobe Flash (the authoring software) is a worthy investment. If the player is open source then it can be compiled for other platforms and then you have that many more people using Flash.

init1
November 30th, 2007, 10:49 PM
If Ubuntu had to have only things that work in the repositories, they'd have to rethink Firefox by default.
;)

boast
November 30th, 2007, 10:59 PM
does anyone know how to get mplayer to play flash?

Harpalus
November 30th, 2007, 11:04 PM
does anyone know how to get mplayer to play flash?


http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ - Excellent program. I use it often in OpenBSD, where the newest official fllash just isn't available. That, combined with Gnash, works well most of the time.

cgeorge1122
January 18th, 2008, 10:50 PM
how do you remove gnash?

macogw
January 18th, 2008, 10:59 PM
OK normally I would click on Adobe Flash Player and all would be good.

This is the first time I saw the Gnash SWF Player option, so I figured what would it hurt I'll try it....

well it didn't work.

So I installed Adobe Flash Player via the terminal, guess what it still does not work.

Why is the Gnash SWF Player option given? I am all for supporting Open Source but it isn't ready to be included as an option.

So I just removed gnash hopefully Flash will work now.

YouTube uses .flv. Gnash plays .swf. Videos are done as .flv, and for those you need Adobe. Websites that are done in Flash are usually done as .swf though. So Gnash should work for Flash-based websites.

mips
January 18th, 2008, 11:33 PM
There is also Swfdec:
http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/
http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec

Caraibes
April 12th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Right now I am using my old iBook G3 laptop with Debian testing PPC.

Gnash is the ONLY option, and much to my surprise it actually works just fine now :)

One has to keep in mind Adobe Flash is absent from PPC... So I am glad Gnash is here...

madjr
April 12th, 2008, 07:33 PM
There is also Swfdec:
http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/
http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec

i second this. swfdec works great and it's now included with fedora 9.

Eclipse.
April 12th, 2008, 09:32 PM
There is also Swfdec:
http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/
http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec

+1 from me.

Now using it instead of flash-nonfree, so much better than gnash, it actually works and doesnt crash.:)

Midwest-Linux
April 12th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Re: Adobe flash player I found this article about removing older versions of Flash before installing a new one. I might help some here.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13554_1-9916676-33.html


"f you are reading this on a computer, it's a sure bet that Adobe's Flash Player is installed. A couple days ago, Adobe released a new version of the Flash Player web browser plugin and there are few things you need to know to upgrade correctly"