Give Gutsy a rating

[shafin]

How much would you give to the new ape in town?

What are your impressions with it?

[TidusBlade]

I would say at least 9.8/10 I never give anything a 10 :P But it's still the best :) It just keeps on getting better and better so I might rate it a 10 someday...

[Lster]

Here's my rating:

Compared with the current compotition: 5 stars. Windows is only alive (on my computer) for games.
Over Feisty Fawn: 4 stars. A lot changed, but needed a little more...

It's a solid release IMO. :)

[lyceum]

When I first go into Ubuntu I thought "They could make it better". Then with 7.04 I though, "other than 3D, this is done." With the better look and all the improvments I did not think of, like printer support, 7.10 just blows 7.04 out of the water. I really have high expectasions for 8.04.

:popcorn:


:guitar:

[FuturePilot]

I'm totally amazed. Gutsy has fixed just about every problem I had with my HP dv6500t. Everything works pretty much out of the box, whereas almost nothing did with Feisty. Except sound, but that was extremely easy to get working compared to what I had to do in Feisty. Right now I'm thinking 11 out 10. :guitar:

[bobbocanfly]

9/10. Not 10/10 for a couple of reasons:

- I had to change my xorg.conf and mess about with the graphics settings just to have a non-warped resolution.
- The servers are taking a hammering 9 hours after release and are still incredibly slow. Maybe some better servers next time.
- There is no proper built in Compiz manager or settings editor by default.

[TidusBlade]

9/10. Not 10/10 for a couple of reasons:
- The servers are taking a hammering 9 hours after release and are still incredibly slow. Maybe some better servers next time.

I actually think the servers are awesome, I mean theres probably about 100,000 people upgrading right now,and maybe half of them are downloading, those are some good servers, some sites go down 10 mins after being dugg :lolflag:

[b0ng0]

9/10, for speed, ease of use, new features. If only wireless roaming worked properly it could have been a 10...

[Lord Illidan]

Can I give it a -1 or a 0? Why not? I protest against this discrimination. :lolflag:

Ok, kidding aside, I'll give this 8/10..

A very good distro, but suspend doesn't work, which used to work in Feisty (yes, I did put in a bug report).

[cogadh]

9/10. Not 10/10 for a couple of reasons:

- I had to change my xorg.conf and mess about with the graphics settings just to have a non-warped resolution.
- The servers are taking a hammering 9 hours after release and are still incredibly slow. Maybe some better servers next time.
- There is no proper built in Compiz manager or settings editor by default.
- I give it an 8/10 as I am having similar problems with X (still unresolved) and a few other minor things. None of the problems existed in Feisty.
- The servers are slow because so many people are trying to get it. The quality of the servers and mirrors wouldn't make a difference if there are tens of thousands of people all trying to download at the same time. If you use the torrent downloads instead of the direct downloads, it takes less than 20 minutes to download (at least it did for me).
- The Compiz thing is a bit annoying, but I didn't hold it against Gutsy, since the config options that are available satisfy most users' basic needs and there is a "power user" configuration manager that can be installed after the fact.

All in all, I think Gutsy is a big step in the right direction for Ubuntu in particular and Linux in general. Considering the improvements we saw with Feisty and now with Gutsy, I can't wait to see what Hardy offers in April.

BTW - I'm really curious as to who gave it a 3 but didn't have the nerve to post and justify that rating

[Paul820]

I gave it a 10, everything works perfectly for me.

[earobinson]

8 / 10

[bashveank]

10/10 - it's more or less perfect. The ui could be polished a bit for more uniformity, but that's not a necessity.

[Ultra Magnus]

9/10. Not 10/10 for a couple of reasons:

- I had to change my xorg.conf and mess about with the graphics settings just to have a non-warped resolution.
- The servers are taking a hammering 9 hours after release and are still incredibly slow. Maybe some better servers next time.
- There is no proper built in Compiz manager or settings editor by default.


1 - Fair enough, I had to enable the restricted driver to get proper resolution
2 - Apparently about half the mirrors were at full capacity, probably best to grab a torrent.
3 - sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager - you can then find it in the same place as other visual options

I gave it 8/10 because it is awesome in almost every respect, every bit of hardware I've tried with it works (scanner, printer, camera, old ipod) but there are a couple of bugs here and there.

I don't think there is anything that is easier to install than this though - I did a fresh install of vista and ubuntu so I feel well placed to compare them and Ubuntu was far quicker and less hassle.

I love the built in compiz support, i had to enable the propriatory driver and install xgl (ati card) but it works really nicely and hopefully even better when the new drivers are finished and I can ditch xgl

Deskbar is better than the old one, although it is the only problem I have had... for some reason every now and then the deskbar applet decides to crash... not sure why?

Also, gutsy feels really well put together... its really nice when an upgrade really is better than what you already have!

Looking forward to Hardy Heron!

[Johan_SV]

8 out of 10.

I have a black boot/shutdown screen and booting takes more than 3 minutes (I fixed this myself though). Likely not enough tested.

However, the new font rendering, support of my wireless card, and some other things, really make this a good release.

[00ber n00b]

7 of 10, wireless is still subpar

[Ultra Magnus]

8 out of 10.

I have a black boot/shutdown screen and booting takes more than 3 minutes (I fixed this myself though). Likely not enough tested.

However, the new font rendering, support of my wireless card, and some other things, really make this a good release.

I had the black screen thing - Heres where to fix it:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/ubiquity/+bug/150930

[Mazza558]

I'm actually very annoyed - this time with a wireless connection which connects to the network but has extremely glitchy internet access :(

Nevertheless, I gave it 8/10 as my desktop works flawlessly, and it's only my laptop at fault.

[Tux Aubrey]

Its a solid 9/10 for me.

No problems with either a clean install or an update. Everything I need just works!

Truly a "donation-worthy" (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations)release, IMHO

[marco123]

10/10 for me.:) Everything works perfectly.:)

Love the desktop effects, I agree though that the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings manager should have been installed by default. Love how stable it is though: I have nearly all the effects enabled and it's rock solid stable. (Seems to be a memory leak problem with compiz when you play around with the settings though.:( )

[The Grum]

8/10.

In the live CD, I couldnt change the resolution, even though it gave me all the modes.

There was no way to graphically change the default resolution, so on my CRT the login screen didnt fit properly in the screen. Once I logged in, everything was great. A quick edit to the xorg.conf sorted the problem, but there should be an option in the login window config to set the default res.

Apart from that, Gutsy is solid so far. Definitely an improvement over Feisty.

[RAV TUX]

I don't like to vote in public polls.

[-grubby]

6 out of 10. It does have compiz-fusion by default, but it is slower than Fiesty is

[Ripfox]

There is no proper built in Compiz manager or settings editor by default.

Yea, by the way what IS the best thing to download for that anyways?

[Crashmaxx]

I gave it an 8/10. I have only tried the live CD for a few minutes so far, but it seems just like Feisty to me. It did boot a lot faster, especailly for a live CD, and the display stuff is pretty sweet. But the biggest change I was looking for was Compiz-Fusion to work on ATi, and it just doesn't on my laptop, which is a big dissapointment.

For me, its not that there is anything wrong with it. Its just that Feisty has been so great and I was all excited that Gutsy would be that much better, only to find really more of the same. Which isn't bad, just not as awesome as I had hoped.

So I'll upgrade soon enough, and it should fix a few minor things. But I'm in no rush anymore, cause its nothing Earth shaking. Which I suppose is the way it should be.

[lancest]

Better looking than Feisty. PDF printing is great. Gnome crashes once in a while at boot in Gutsy and a little slower than Fiesty.. 8/10

[Dimitriid]

Tried alternate cd install to upgrade. Upgrade failed, little to no input given as to why.

Tried to just delete everything and reformat using the text based installed on alternate cd, the stupid thing freezes at 40% when trying to configure apt, apparently its happy to hang if it doesnt connects to the server. I about had it this is not the first time Ubuntu installs assume they can use and rape my internet connection as part of the install process which is usually not possible since I install on many offline or dial up only systems. I consider a major bug simply for not being able to autoskip it.

No gutsy for me, I switched to Arch on my laptop too at least when something goes wrong I know what I did or can do to correct it and it gives me a usable system without forcing me to go online.

[Bezmotivnik]

Not so hot in "Live" on my normal Ubuntu machines. This is the first time I've had one just croak live on these boxes. Yes, it's a good burn.

More testing is certainly in order, but still the most robust and trouble-free for me seems to be v6.06. Why, I do not know.

[LokeTheDog]

7 of 10.

The upgrade reported many errors which scared me as a user, and some things don't appear to be working quite right. Not a good way to impress me.

[bruce89]

Warty - Breezy quite nice.
the rest - fine, with some issues.


Yes, I've been around that long.

[marco123]

Yea, by the way what IS the best thing to download for that anyways?

Search for "Compiz" in Add/Remove programs. It's called "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings".

[bruce89]

Search for "Compiz" in Add/Remove programs. It's called "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings".

It's a GUI failure in every regard, not GNOMEy in the slightest.

[init1]

I gave it a 6, but I guess I could have voted lower. The title fonts are WAY too big, a problem that I never had in Edgy or Feisty. I was able to fix it, but only by editing some text files. That really disappointed me, and showed me that Ubuntu still has some things it need to work out. Hopefully Hardy Heron will not have this issue.
Edit:
It's also changing my brightness for no reason. I should have voted lower.

[bruce89]

I gave it a 6, but I guess I could have voted lower. The title fonts are WAY too big, a problem that I never had in Edgy or Feisty. I was able to fix it, but only by editing some text files. That really disappointed me, and showed me that Ubuntu still has some things it need to work out. Hopefully Hardy Heron will not have this issue.


Knocking off 4 points just because of such a minor cosmetic issue seems a little harsh.

They may be bigger in Compiz than in metacity, but why shouldn't they be?

[SonicSteve]

How much would you give to the new ape in town?

What are your impressions with it?

I love your 5 out of 10 comarison, (the ape is a cripple) I'm still chuckling about it.

From what I've seen so far 7.10 is awesome. I can't call it perfect but I don't think any OS will ever be perfect. The polish that it now has is amazing.

[init1]

Knocking off 4 points just because of such a minor cosmetic issue seems a little harsh.

They may be bigger in Compiz than in metacity, but why shouldn't they be?
The reason why they shouldn't be is because it was taking up a large section of my screen.

[ophion]

The reason why they shouldn't be is because it was taking up a large section of my screen.

What a gaffe!

[RAV TUX]

I don't like to vote in public polls.

...but I will rate Gutsy at 8.37652

[-grubby]

...but I will rate Gutsy at 8.37652

not specific enough I'm going to rerate to 6.454890730579839058740938798729872048728730698710 96184097109641

[Dimitriid]

Garbage I say. I don't care how "harsh" you think it is. How their install process got worst is ridiculous. Im glad i voted 1 for this piece of junk.

[RAV TUX]

not specific enough I'm going to rerate to 6.454890730579839058740938798729872048728730698710 96184097109641
Since we're getting specific I'll have to re-rate my rating to:


8.376525684379129654328917365981423589417778915463 26741863264578961534826789152361465122222179892346 78894213469823426127989562462132465267958595728984 56421326424257897855455214325624987252151885452152 54875487525245215258545721512158457261556414878515 25642189875524343426789451224587975463165467224879 12453154567894513456789451243567678912452121262133 34121543162456424554879212214313451642312521564565 61256455146519785255221542213425621652165421434215 25627821525462561564181521546289215245621824525125

[steveneddy]

A very good distro, but suspend doesn't work, which used to work in Feisty (yes, I did put in a bug report).

I got my suspend to work by going to Power Management under Preferences.

:popcorn:

[anandanbu]

I would 8/10 since some more improvements is possible over the next release

[iPower]

8

[-grubby]

Since we're getting specific I'll have to re-rate my rating to:


8.376525684379129654328917365981423589417778915463 26741863264578961534826789152361465122222179892346 78894213469823426127989562462132465267958595728984 56421326424257897855455214325624987252151885452152 54875487525245215258545721512158457261556414878515 25642189875524343426789451224587975463165467224879 12453154567894513456789451243567678912452121262133 34121543162456424554879212214313451642312521564565 61256455146519785255221542213425621652165421434215 25627821525462561564181521546289215245621824525125

that's very painful

[Hizzoner]

I have not noticed any difference from the RC ver. except that the screen resolution has been fixed. 9/10 since I've not tried every app.Great work boys and girls! Keep up the great development work. Never mind about the comments for other O/S'es!::)

[jag2000]

Runs a little bloated somehow. It seems slowed then 7.04. Graphics are nice thou.

[-gabe-noob-]

When ever I try to upgrade from the upgrade center on feisty it (The app) just turns gray and I have to force quit it!!! help me I WANT GUSTY!!!!! ARGGHH cause it seems awsome... hehe

[-grubby]

When ever I try to upgrade from the upgrade center on feisty it (The app) just turns gray and I have to force quit it!!! help me I WANT GUSTY!!!!! ARGGHH cause it seems awsome... hehe

it sounds like a clean install would be more feasible

[-gabe-noob-]

it sounds like a clean install would be more feasible

A what now? and how do I do this? IM A TOTAL NOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB with everything ubuntu/ most things computer in general


Sorry a llittle hyper active t'night

[sefs]

0 for slow downloads, and then not being able to upgrade from fiesty

[socceroos]

A what now? and how do I do this?

You need to do this by backing up your home drive (burning your home folder and everything in it to a cd - or if its too big, an external usb hard drive), then downloading the Ubuntu 7.10 Destop i386 ISO and burning it to a cd. You burn an iso to a cd in Ubuntu by putting a blank cd in your CD Burner and then right clicking on the Ubuntu 7.10 Destop i386 ISO and selecting 'Write to Disk'.

Then reboot with the CD in your drive and select the first option from the boot menu, 'Install Ubuntu'.

If this confuses you, go to www.ubuntu.com and go to the download section. They have help for downloading and installing Ubuntu.

HTH,

Socceroos

[Tux Aubrey]

On this poll, Gutsy is running at nearly 80% overall approval at 8/10 or above.

From memory neither Fiesty or Edgy came anywhere near this level of user satisfaction so soon after the release.

If that result is discounted for the couple of trolls and those who are making a negative judgement on the basis of one or two cosmetic issues, it looks like a real winner.

Someone did mention problems with Live CD performance and I had that too - very slow boot, lots of lag and bad sound. But I hit "install" anyway and find it faster, smoother and more beautiful (fonts) that ever before.

The devs desrve a big hug, or better.

[-gabe-noob-]

Sorry for my extreem super noobish ness, and your reply s were genius GENIUS!

[Mr. Ksoft]

Wow, I'm quite amazed by 7.10. After it completely crapped out on my modern PC, I decided to give it a spin on my old Pentium 2 450 box in the basement because I wanted to get rid of the sluggish Kubuntu it was running (which was also broken so I couldn't get it to upgrade on its own). I was extremely shocked at how well it worked. Not only did it recognize all of my normal hardware, but it even caught my Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Adapter I had plugged into the back that I'd been using on Kubuntu with a special driver to access my wireless network without a PCI card. That really, really surprised me.

Additionally, I was able to enable Compiz Fusion's "extra" effects level... without any performance problems! It just blows my mind that it's even possible on a wimpy old P2/450 with 320MB RAM a 64MB first-generation Radeon card... while feeling snappier than Windows Vista on a Core 2 notebook that's eight years newer. (for comparison, Windows 98 crawled on this thing, Windows XP was only slightly better, and Kubuntu Fiesty was the equivalent of a dead snail)

I'm extremely impressed! (Though maybe I'm just doing well because of my older hardware, seeing as it completely hated my Athlon 64's hardware makeup even though Fiesty seemed okay with it)

[mrvertigo]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReat! but as with all things linux Still a work in progress!

[Antman]

I like the overall performance of Gutsy, however I don't want to run it on my laptop since Suspend2Ram and Suspend2Disk are not working (at least not on my IBM T60).

[paul928]

Broke x on my 7.04 box on upgrade
Benn running it fine for about 2 months with fresh install
Maybe start from fresh install is the best solution

Well, I just reinstalled Feisty on the partition that I upgraded to Gutsy. I use several apps that I had to install from source that I couldn't get working in Gutsy. So now I'm dual-booting Feisty/Gutsy on one computer and just Feisty on another.

Maybe with more time I'll get everything that I need working with Gutsy, but for the present I'll have to rely on Feisty. I rated Gutsy a 5 out of 10.

[Dimitriid]

If that result is discounted for the couple of trolls and those who are making a negative judgement on the basis of one or two cosmetic issues

Being able to finish the ******* installation is a cosmetic issue now? Its still broken, and poorly designed.

[-grubby]

A what now? and how do I do this? IM A TOTAL NOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB with everything ubuntu/ most things computer in general


Sorry a llittle hyper active t'night

you would just download and burn the gutsy CD and install it from there

[igknighted]

Another good, solid release... but honestly, since edgy there really hasn't been anything exciting going on.

[Strangerdave]

I gave it a 10/10. I really like Gutsy and it has been kind to both my laptop and desktop. Being a n00b, I hope to learn more about home networking and setup a simple server using ubuntu.

[ErikTheRed]

I was pleasantly surprised by Gutsy, there are a lot of useful new features and it is very well put together as a whole.

I do still wish that Kubuntu would receive a bit more attention as it doesn't seem to get as many great new features each release as the standard Gnome Ubuntu does. Hopefully that'll change with KDE4.

Overall, a great release though!

[necrolin]

The install cd won't work on anything higher than a 600x400 resolution. Hence it's not getting installed on my desktop. I'll try it on my laptop and see if it fares better. The last 3 releases have have display issues on my desktop for some reason. :confused:

[imaca]

For me upgrade to 7.04 was totally without problems.
An upgrade to 7.10 failed to recognize Radeon 9800 and installed vesa driver - the first version of Ubuntu (I go back to breezy) ever to do this for me.
When a new release fails to do something that previous versions did,to me, this is a very bad sign.
Getting Xorg up and running properly should to me be the highest priority,
Most new users facing these sort of problems will simply give up.
For this reason I rate Gutsy a step in the wrong direction.

[Caffeine_Junky]

I give Gutsy 9/10, ...and a big thank you to all involved in getting this release out!

Great job!=D>

[distroman]

Tried alternate cd install to upgrade. Upgrade failed, little to no input given as to why.

Tried to just delete everything and reformat using the text based installed on alternate cd, the stupid thing freezes at 40% when trying to configure apt, apparently its happy to hang if it doesnt connects to the server. I about had it this is not the first time Ubuntu installs assume they can use and rape my internet connection as part of the install process which is usually not possible since I install on many offline or dial up only systems. I consider a major bug simply for not being able to autoskip it.

No gutsy for me, I switched to Arch on my laptop too at least when something goes wrong I know what I did or can do to correct it and it gives me a usable system without forcing me to go online.
As for upgrading that never worked to well for me either, maybe it's not for people that like poking around.

Still to be fair, I remember reading that the tag line for gutsy was Go Ape! Whether this was official or not I don't know, but I do think they went ape.
Also I don't think it's fair to compare arch to ubuntu, they are two completely different distributions with completely different goals. Arch is really nice, I am posting this from arch, but I think we can agree that the learning curve on arch is somewhat wider then on ubuntu.
That's great for some for some it's not so great.

I have made two installs with gutsy so fare, one 32 bit install on a laptop which went really smooth and seems very good in terms of out of the box. One 64 bit install on a desktop that seems to be crippled, if this is a 64 bit issue I do not know, but I have been running 64 bit lenny and lenny has been treating me really cool, so?

What I really see as crippled is that gutsy 64 bit to me feels slow in all respects (that's without compositing) beside that I got a couple of major bugs that are so obvious, as in my face, that's it is just plain ugly.
I am sure it will be fixed soon or some will come up with fixes that are usable for me as well.

I guess whether people will be happy with gutsy initially still depends on there hardware, to me it's just strange that some issues have gotten worse since 7.04, some for sure got better too.


5 out of 10 (The ape is a cripple)
Too funny.
I do think ubuntu is better then a crippled ape and I am looking forward to 8.04 being a LTS.

[BuGoFromLT]

Hmz... I had a lot of problems with Gutsy.
Suspend isn't working.
I cannot lock my screen by closing lid.
And some more..,
So i give it 6 and i think Fesity form the beginning was far better and gave me great shot form the first launch.

[Grimgoil]

At the moment it's a 7,
Has some overall bugs that make it feel like a beta and not official, mainly cosmetic and small stuff like weird screen flicker for a second on bootup. I gave it in the poll a 9 since i believe it will be sorted out soon enough and overall this whole project is just too good to be true.

[MellonCollie]

It's currently at a very generous 6/10 for me. Booting normally with the live cd led to a black screen/no monitor signal. Booting in safe graphics mode gives a "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon" error message. Very poor start so far.

Update: Installed is safe graphics mode. Font rendering is lovely. Tracker doesn't seem to be indexing anything. Blurry menu icons in the Clearlooks theme.

[Chilli Bob]

I rated it a 5, and that was being generous from my experiences so far. Issues I have had in the first 2 hours with Gutsy include.....

If I boot with my printer switched on, I am restricted to 600x400.

If I boot with a memory stick inserted, it shows up twice on the desk top.

I went to a site requiring Flash, and Firefox told me I needed to download a plugin as usual, but both Adobe Flash and Gnash did not exist according to Firefox.

The automatic printer installer detected my Brother DCP-115C correctly, and even offered four versions of the correct 1200 driver, but none of them worked. Will have to do it manually again - takes at least an hour to get working.

I tried using Add/Remove to install my usual apps, but EVERY app gives this line in the description..
"(application) cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type." WTF?

I tried to download some JPEGs to use as wallpaper, but right clicking the image and selecting "Save image as..." causes it to download a *.php file. Again - WTF?

There may be other problems, but I haven't been able to install my apps to try them out.

Hopefully Gutsy will be working soon, but for now I'm going back to Feisty.

[the_darkside_986]

I had to give this a 4 because I cannot get the liveCD to start X server no matter what I put in xorg.conf. Well, it does claim to start X but there is only a blank screen that no one knows how to fix. Both "vesa" AND "nv" fail to do anything. I am going to copy and use my Feisty's xorg config file and maybe that will work.

It is a very big mistake to include the glx X-server without including any necessary binary drivers to make it work. It just doesn't make any sense either. They could've at least put the nouveau driver on the CD.

I have Nvidia 7300 GS, but no other nvidia users claim to have this same problem it seems.

There is no point in using the alternate CD. I will be stuck with the same problem, plus the inability to configure my wireless card since there would be no GUI.

Until they decide to release a patched liveCD with a functional X server like Feisty has, I will just have to wait. Both this and the new release of PC-BSD 1.4 have been major disappointments. But at least PC-BSD had enough sense to not try to use a clumsy, non-functional X server when trying to use the old "nv" driver.

[Chilli Bob]

OK, I've solved the problem with the Add/Remove app. I went into System-Admin- Software sources and enabled all the repositories and reloaded the package lists and it fixed the problem. I had previously enabled the repositories and refreshed the packages in Add/Remove, but apparently that wasn't enough. Lucky I wasn't a COMPLETE noob.

Now downloading Exaile - can't live without that.

[samjh]

The most trouble-free Ubuntu release so far (I've been through 5.10, 6.10, and 7.04).

I'd give it 9.5 out of 10, but round it up to 10! :p

[spliner]

I've only had a chance to try Gutsy for a couple of hours since a fresh install, but so far I am loving it! It's getting very close to being easy to use for a normal user it's scary. It's nowhere near as user friendly as XP/Vista yet, but it's well on it's way. Can't wait to get home this weekend and customize the crap out of it and attempt to install my favorite software.

9 out of 10!

[regomodo]

7/10 But i ditched it

[fuscia]

loving the kubuntu version, so far. loads in 24 seconds and seems quite zippy.

[samb0057]

I like it, but I think gutsy concentrated way too much on new features rather than concentrating on stability and polishing.

[stuh84]

Initially I was skeptical, had a few probs at first on it, due to all sorts of reasons (messed up repartioning, wanted to try and keep Fedora, and get rid of Elive, but then bit the bullet and just went over the lot).

Initially had a problem with getting black screened, but edited the usplash.conf to the correct resolution and its fine now, had a tiny bit of network troubles but soon sorted them, wireless was a doddle (Broadcom 4318, doddle? MY GOD!), and then had to editing xorg.conf a little and do sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl to get desktop effects working.

Put it this way though, in the space of about 45 minutes, I managed to get Gutsy doing everything I've been trying to do in the past year and still had problems with.

This release is absolutely spectacular, the battery life on my laptop has gone up by about an hour, from an hour and half to nearly 2 and half hours.

Only gave it a 9 though, due to the initial teething troubles, but now it is up and running, I am in shock and awe. It aint supposed to be this easy on this laptop! A year ago I was screaming at the bloody thing, now I'm in love with it :D

[fuscia]

10.clutch, so far.

[bruce89]

I like it, but I think gutsy concentrated way too much on new features rather than concentrating on stability and polishing.

That's what Ubuntu does, Debian is the one for stability.

[American_Outcast]

I am having no problems at all. A couple of small issues that can be expected with any OS upgrade. But over all I am very surprised that it was easy to upgrade with the Update Manager. It went smoothly (except of course for the slow servers at first, no big deal for me.)

Compiz is GREAT. I love it. There are also a few other things I like a lot but I am just getting started playing around with this and checking things out.

Over all I have to give it a 10/10. I think this is a huge leap in the right direction for Ubuntu and Linux in general.

The only thing I needed to do was download the .deb Automatix package. A single click of that upgraded it without any issue.

The major things I was concerned about where my settings, CrossOver and VMware server not working or becoming "broken." None of that happened, except I do have to upgrade to the newer version of VMware server some day.

EXCELLENT job Ubuntu team.

[Efros]

Grieat stuff, took forever to download the upgrade packages but it got there. Upgrade went very smoothly much more so than the one from edgy to fiesty which resulted in a borked installation. Upgrade completed and rebooted with only a few video quirks which quickly ironed themselves out (Nvidia card). Nicest thing I've found so far, I can get a changing screen in VNC when running Compiz. I used to have to run X11vnc to get this.

[drseuk]

I just upgraded two old (c. 2000) laptops from Feisty to Gutsy.

The Thinkpad T20 is just about as functional as its Feisty-self except the login font has changed along with a lot of icons which I guess I'll get used to. Gaim is now Pidgin, OK. WiFi broke again with the Belkin F5D7050v3 - but that's to be expected (it's now working again after a fashion, though not yet with NetManager - never has). No real benefit to upgrading (as it's not powerful enough for desktop-effects). Had, again, to de-install a major amount of software to free up enough space for the upgrade.

The Toshiba 8100 went through the same procedure and is a bit of a mess. Gnome settings daemon is playing up and something somewhere is grinding the entire system to a halt after the upgrade. WiFi (same adaptor as above) is broken.

That said, there's no way I'm even considering going back to anything Microsoft. A couple of days and a mooch around these forums and I know that everything will be sorted.

[lucid]

8

So far much better than Feisty in regards to things just working (screen resolution yay). I still have issues but they are related to ATI not providing a working driver so I don't blame Ubuntu for that.

Good work on this release.

[justinlilly]

to quantify my 6:

Dual Monitor support is worse than feisty (updating the xorg.conf file was actually EASIER than the gui b/c at least the conf editing actually worked)
No Audio after initial boot

Other than that, standard ubuntu goodness

[caro]

Overall, fairly nice (like the desktop effects!) but a few things that could have been better:

- Gutsy boots more slowly than Fiesty
- fonts are horrible. spent a couple of hours trying to make everything look like it did in Fiesty (desktop, Firefox)
- laptop screen seems to be too dim when running on battery compared to Fiesty (I've since changed the settings)

On the plus side, suspend works now for the first time -- at least for a while. After about 8 hours of being suspended, had to reboot for the wireless connection to be recognized.

[darksong]

I like it - i don't get any of the installation problems with this release that i did with feisty. I also like the new artwork. This one worked much better for me than of any of the others (which was normally bad experience after bad experience) no problems as of yet :)

[karth]

I'd say 8:

Everything went as expected, except a few things:


My 22" flat panel fancied itself as "CRT-0" (probably due to buggy EDID), and Ubuntu decided to compute strange refresh rates: 50-58 Hz, and 63-64 Hz.
There are 4 places to set the resolution and the refresh rate (including manual tweaking of the xorg.conf and the proprietary panel from the driver). None of them can "force" a special value except xorg.conf, but it seems that Ubuntu is able to ignore it.
Tweaking the default layout theme seems to make some icons burry (like low res).
Additionnal HDD (sdb, sdc...) are not automatically mounted in read/write mode for the user account by default; there is no tool or conf panel to do so, I have to get into fstab.


But a few things delighted me:


5.1 surround has been set up automatically, and perfectly.
The sound server is well configured and allows all my apps to play sound at the same time (i.e. Amarok + flash video + system bell).
"Add/remove applications" works perfectly.


I'd say this OS is really easy to use, except the few things reported above, and I'm happy with it. I'm eager to see what comes next, though ;)

[erginemr]

I give 9/10 to Gutsy. Overall a perfect distro, which is the proof that the developers heeded the and tried to resolve complaints of Feisty users. To me, Feisty as a back-step in Ubuntu chronology. But they have more than made up with this issue of Gutsy Gibbon.

I fell in love with the new wallpaper, which is, very stylish to say the least. Compiz Fusion works perfectly and will fill Vista users' hearts with envy.

Still minor issues are:
- Some hiccups in default resolution settings (esp. with the Live CD)
- A slightly longer start-up duration (but the general performance / response time is much better)
- They may also consider Thunderbird as a second e-mail reader to the default install by sacrificng from the several Windows packages on the CD, which is a good thing (as some people find Evolution too complex just to look up their e-mails, and do not need its extra features.)

[Martje_001]

The install cd won't work on anything higher than a 600x400 resolution. Hence it's not getting installed on my desktop. I'll try it on my laptop and see if it fares better. The last 3 releases have have display issues on my desktop for some reason. :confused:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

[AndyCooll]

I've given it 7 out of 10.

This is because I've had loads of problems, though I'm not sure at the moment how many are directly related to Gutsy.

I have a couple of old laptops. They were never very fast, but previous versions of Ubuntu ran at an acceptable level. Gutsy however runs like a slug on them. Into the mix though is the fact that a the hard-drives borked on them and I had to purchase a couple of cheap replacements so I'm not sure at the moment whether all this is more hardware related than Gutsy itself.
However even on my main box I occasionally feel isn't running as quick.

Having said all that, I like the new features in Gutsy.

:cool:

[Tux Aubrey]

Interesting that the average rating on this poll has been slowly declining since the day of release - its still 70% with a rating of 8 or more, but there is decided drift downwards and we are now over 6% in the bottom two rating categories. I guess more people are finding problems as they use it. I've had a few, but I'd still give it a solid 8/10.

[Pete051]

If only that problem with the rt61 driver hadn't returned it would have been damn near perfect, it's ok I'm just ecstatic because I've got a decent pdd file for my Epson R360 at last :)
8 out of 10

[sparky64]

I gave it a six.
Having worse freeze problems than feisty.
Keep losing network connections.
Firefox would not let me install my favorite addons.
Java refuses to play ball.

Been using it from the last beta release with no problems. Its only from the last few updates that the problems started.

[Aquaman420]

Fresh install from Feisty went flawlessly. Still having trouble recording via mix, but since first using dapper-- baby you've come a long way!!

9/10


Open letter to Bill:
I ain't never coming back!!

[macogw]

9/10

Framebuffer's broken

[LaRoza]

I really don't see a big difference in my setup, because I never used the eye-candy, and use Fluxbox. As it is, it is perfect. I did look at Compiz-Fusion just to see what the fuss was about, it was easily set up and handled fine, better than Beryl anyway, in the amount of features.

[sunexplodes]

Gutsy's been great for me since Tribe 5. Everything "just works".

[Threbus5]

On my late 1998 or 1999 model laptop with 190 MB RAM and a 6 G hard drive, Gutsy fails to run. For that matter, so did Feisty. The non-technical description is that they are "squirrely" - odd things happen or behaviors are inconsistent. Dapper continues to perk merrily along. So a Gutsy rating would be unfair.

Agreed that my Linux computing should emerge from the dark ages but with world usability one of Linux' stated goals perhaps the community could keep those with less processing power in mind.

Certainly, minimalist Linux distributions allow computing by those with less developed machines but Ubuntu desktop is my favorite OS. Unfortunately the option of buying a replacement machine to enable using a new system is unavailable.

So, y'all enjoy it and keep the excitement going. Maybe next year's tax return will help me out.

Take care.

[briansvgs]

I liked some of feisty more than gutsy and vice versa. Unfortunately, with both operating sytems, I have had hardware problems on my dell vostro 1400 (my main computer). With feisty, my laptop would randomly start shutting itself off for no reason (upon turning it back on, my laptop would tell me that it had shutdown because it had overheated, but hot air would not be coming out of the fans, and it would not happen if I used a live cd or vista, I traced this to feisty, but I think that it was a bug in the bios that feisty just happened to bring out). With gutsy, the wireless on gutsy doesn't work right. When I got this laptop, I specifically got the ipw3945 wireless card so that it would be supported by linux, however, even though wireless works in gutsy unsecured, when I try to use wep it appears to connect, and ping works, but when I open firefox, I can't connect to google or any other website. The wireless did work in feisty, and gutsy doesn't show these overheating issues. So, all in all, both gutsy and feisty have some issues that I consider major issues.

[EdThaSlayer]

Not as good as Feisty, it has problems with the splashscreen. There is already a bug report about this on launchpad.

[mramsey]

When I first go into Ubuntu I thought "They could make it better". Then with 7.04 I though, "other than 3D, this is done." With the better look and all the improvments I did not think of, like printer support, 7.10 just blows 7.04 out of the water. I really have high expectasions for 8.04.


:popcorn:


:guitar:


Ditto for me!:)

[mindtrick]

8/10

Cut one point for being buggy (for example Gparted crashed in live cd mode when preparing partitions)
and one point for being not compatible with some usb disks or SD cards. (though probably that's their problem)