looking for a new email address :)

[helane]

had gmx but had problems when phishing policies where introduced - long story short: opened account in europe, now i canada.
don't want yahoo, hotmail etc. at the moment have gmail but would like to switch to something reliable and smaller (like gmx or web.de that don;t take anybody outside germany anymore)...

any ideas?

helane.

[reza81]

why isn't gmail reliable & what do you mean by to big?

[helane]

it is reliable - among other reasons i do not like directed ads... i do not want the thread to become an argument - if gmail is bad or not. just looking for some ideas. :)

cheers. h. :)

[n3tfury]

roll your own? http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/

[southernman]

Just because you have gmail, doesn't mean you can only get your mail by their web interface. Just use the email client of your choice (I prefer thunderbird) and set it up to check and download a copy of your emails to your machine. This way, you get their (gmails) great spam filters useage, without having to worry about those adverts you loathe so much... ;)

[reza81]

roll your own? http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/

thanks for the link. This is very usefull

:guitar:

[helane]

sothernman - thank you for the advice... and yes i do use program... and no - the ads is not the only reason. i am simply looking for ideas for good free emails.
what n3tfury wrote would be the best solution, but I am new to linux and fairly uncomfortable in the environment. at least for now. :)

[RAV TUX]

had gmx but had problems when phishing policies where introduced - long story short: opened account in europe, now i canada.
don't want yahoo, hotmail etc. at the moment have gmail but would like to switch to something reliable and smaller (like gmx or web.de that don;t take anybody outside germany anymore)...

any ideas?

helane.


sothernman - thank you for the advice... and yes i do use program... and no - the ads is not the only reason. i am simply looking for ideas for good free emails.
what n3tfury wrote would be the best solution, but I am new to linux and fairly uncomfortable in the environment. at least for now. :)

Honestly I have yet to find a good "free" e-mail outside of G-Mail maybe.

I use a paid service from Yahoo Premium (not the free Yahoo version)...the nice thing it's hosted on my own domain.

I have tried all the "free" email services through my host provider and I find them all lacking.

jozef@OzEnterprise.com

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[tbroderick]

i am simply looking for ideas for good free emails.

Top 12 Free Email Services (http://email.about.com/od/freeemailreviews/tp/free_email.htm)

[conehead77]

(like gmx or web.de that don;t take anybody outside germany anymore)...

They dont? Cant you just enter a german fake address? I know i entered a fake addresses when i wanted a gmx account.

[Sunnz]

Honestly I have yet to find a good "free" e-mail outside of G-Mail maybe.

I use a paid service from Yahoo Premium (not the free Yahoo version)...the nice thing it's hosted on my own domain.

I have tried all the "free" email services through my host provider and I find them all lacking.

jozef@OzEnterprise.com

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http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=46333&d=1192382949
Google Apps hosts your e-mail on your own domain for free.

[RAV TUX]

Google Apps hosts your e-mail on your own domain for free.Yeah I tried it and hated it.

I am not a big fan of Google mail.

They were hosting @cafeubuntu e-mails but I shut the project down due to lack of interest and I personally didn't care for G-mail...still don't but I will admit is nicer then most but second best to Yahoo Premium(not free Yahoo that most people are familiar with).

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[Sunnz]

So they hosted your domain e-mail for free and you are not satisfied that it is not as good as a paid one??

[RAV TUX]

So they hosted your domain e-mail for free and you are not satisfied that it is not as good as a paid one??

yep, again I simply don't like G-mail...and as I stated before I have yet to find a "free" e-mail that is as good as a paid service.

For me I prefer the Yahoo premium service(not the free Yahoo mail)

I would rather pay for an e-mail service done right then use a half-a** service.

...but again I will admit if "free" is your only option then G-mail is probably the best "free" service.

This is simply my choice.
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[23meg]

I would rather pay for a e-mail service done right then use a half-a** service.

Me too. I use FastMail, which has a free service as well.

http://fastmail.fm

[BOBSONATOR]

Gmail tops it all for me...

If you dont like the web GUI, use evolution or something else.

[RAV TUX]

Gmail tops it all for me...

If you dont like the web GUI, use evolution or something else.

Don't care for e-mail clients like evolution or thunderbird, in fact evolution is one of the first programs I remove along with OO.o


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[Zdravko]

Just because you have gmail, doesn't mean you can only get your mail by their web interface. Just use the email client of your choice (I prefer thunderbird) and set it up to check and download a copy of your emails to your machine. This way, you get their (gmails) great spam filters useage, without having to worry about those adverts you loathe so much... ;)
I just read Gmail does not offer IMAP - we can't send mail from a desktop client! This makes gmail useless.
Further more - can you download the sent messages to the desktop client? This is very important.

[southernman]

I just read Gmail does not offer IMAP - we can't send mail from a desktop client! This makes gmail useless.
Further more - can you download the sent messages to the desktop client? This is very important.I send email from my desktop everyday, through my gmail account. To be honest (as usual), I am not all that familiar with IMAP, but I know that using gmail without logging into the web interface serves my purposes quite well. So your claim that gmail is useless, is based on IMAP alone, and not on the whole picture. I would say that gmail is quite useful and that you are WRONG! :p

All the messages that are downloaded from gmail (even the ones that were in my inbox prior to using thunderbird), are also saved on gmails servers.

I've not tried to download my previously "sent" messages from gmail, before I setup Thunderbird to act as a middleman for gmail and myself. Never bothered to look into it, but surely there is a way to do it.

[Zdravko]

southernman (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=63363), nope - you are wrong. As I said - gmail does not offer IMAP. There is no way to send a message from a desktop client.
If there is a way to download the sent messages, then - tell me how to do it!

[tbroderick]

As I said - gmail does not offer IMAP. There is no way to send a message from a desktop client.


Gmail offers POP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Office_Protocol) and SMTP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol). It's very easy to use any email client to send and recieve email through gmail.

[helliewm]

Me too. I use FastMail, which has a free service as well.

http://fastmail.fm

I second this. Also try www.emaildiscussions.com/forum. A forum dedicated to email.

Helen

[southernman]

southernman (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=63363), nope - you are wrong. As I said - gmail does not offer IMAP. There is no way to send a message from a desktop client.


Zdravko (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=60248) IMAP has zero to do with the ability of sending or receiving email from your Gmail account, via your desktop client ok.... zero!

If your the insisting type and have the need for IMAP, there are ways to do it (http://www.google.com/search?q=gmail+imap&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) without having the direct ability from Gmail.

[n3tfury]

just for kicks, i use gmail exclusively. my entire session is encrypted too, unlike ANY other webmail service.

[Zdravko]

southernman (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=63363), okay, tell me then - how to arrange the desktop client so that I am able to:
1. Receive e-mail
2. Send e-mail
3. Have all of the sent e-mail downloaded!!!!!!

I am sure you can help me with the 1. point only.

[p_quarles]

@Zdravko:

2. You set your outgoing server to "smtp.gmail.com," select a TLS secured connection, and point it to port 587.

AFAIK, there is no way to download mail that you have sent from the web interface, but all mail sent from the client will be saved to the local folders by default.

[23meg]

just for kicks, i use gmail exclusively. my entire session is encrypted too, unlike ANY other webmail service.

FastMail also does encryption.

[bruce89]

FastMail also does encryption.

It also uses SpamAssassin to do its spam filtering, and ClamAV for its virus scanning.

Very nice thing FastMail.

[Zdravko]

@Zdravko:

2. You set your outgoing server to "smtp.gmail.com," select a TLS secured connection, and point it to port 587.

AFAIK, there is no way to download mail that you have sent from the web interface, but all mail sent from the client will be saved to the local folders by default.
Hmmm, I didn't know that.
About the sent mail - too bad for gmail. They would have become the very best if only they had this feature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused:

[Raval]

Me too. I use FastMail, which has a free service as well.

http://fastmail.fm

yup I bought a plan for Cirtex Hosting for $2.59 a month and get 5GB of storage and can host 5 email accounts.

[n3tfury]

FastMail also does encryption.

so it does, thanks for the heads up. for free though, you can't beat gmail. even with some of fastmail's paid services.

[vseehua]

Hmmm, I didn't know that.
About the sent mail - too bad for gmail. They would have become the very best if only they had this feature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused:I am using my desktop mail clients to send mail through gmail. Nothing too hard about that:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&hl=en&answer=12103

[23meg]

for free though, you can't beat gmail. even with some of fastmail's paid services.

That's pretty subjective; of course you're entitled to your opinion.

[n3tfury]

i'm talking about features at that *price point* compared to fastmail. nothing subjective there.

[23meg]

i'm talking about features at that *price point* compared to fastmail. nothing subjective there.

I'm talking about the usefulness of the features offered by the two services to different people. For example, GMail offers no IMAP access, and FastMail offers no POP access for free accounts. People who prefer IMAP and have no use for POP may find FastMail more suited, and vice versa.

[wesley_of_course]

Hows about this one ? http://mymail.verizonmail.com/templates/common/us/username.htm
Or this one ; http://www.operamail.com/templates/common/us/tos.htm

[KCPokes]

I agree with rolling your own. I run a dedicated server, at my house, purely for mail. I recommend Zimbra (http://www.zimbra.com). Has a ton of features and the OSS version is free.