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SuperMike
October 14th, 2007, 03:51 PM
You know, the new Xubuntu sure does look nice, and it does look enticing, but why do people go with it? I mean, the moment you open your first GNOME app in this Xubuntu environment, that's the moment that the GNOME shared object libraries get loaded into memory. Not everything is made to be optimized just for Xubuntu yet, so you have higher odds of GNOME being loaded into RAM eventually.

I mean, here's my output on Feisty from all things GNOME loaded in my memory on my system:


5197 ? S 0:39 172 1222 121845 29656 5.7 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default2
4509 ? Ssl 0:00 1 274 12053 1964 0.3 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid
4544 ? Ss 0:00 0 13 3046 1268 0.2 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid
4590 ? Ss 0:00 0 267 11952 1456 0.2 /usr/sbin/gdm
4593 ? S 0:00 1 267 12312 2388 0.4 /usr/sbin/gdm
5173 ? S 0:00 0 19 2640 628 0.1 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
5176 ? S 0:01 2 47 6632 4200 0.8 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 6
5179 ? S 0:00 0 84 2671 1000 0.1 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon
5181 ? Sl 0:14 27 156 29555 10132 1.9 /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon
5196 ? S 0:54 79 478 58197 21680 4.2 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default1
5207 ? Ss 0:00 0 49 19618 5776 1.1 gnome-volume-manager --sm-client-id default4
5212 ? S 0:00 2 82 8377 3436 0.6 /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-daemon
5246 ? S 0:00 8 22 39985 8164 1.5 gnome-cups-icon --sm-client-id default3
5250 ? Ss 0:01 1 252 34187 6628 1.2 gnome-power-manager
5262 ? S 0:00 1 34 65253 9644 1.8 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/trashapplet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=21
5264 ? S 0:02 7 37 36070 13528 2.6 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=27
5266 ? S 0:00 1 22 2437 884 0.1 /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burner/mapping-daemon
5326 ? Ss 0:44 0 123 15940 4492 0.8 gnome-screensaver
22921 ? Sl 0:00 17 279 57860 16664 3.2 gnome-terminal
22923 ? S 0:00 1 7 2452 732 0.1 gnome-pty-helper



It uses 26.9MB. Is that really such a big deal? If I load Xubuntu will I really save that much more memory? And, again, I just don't see why to go with Xubuntu when the moment I load my first GNOME app all these shared objects start loading into RAM again, and there are not enough made-for-XFCE apps yet.

Mazza558
October 14th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I use Xfce because I'm a minimalist at heart. It still seems faster than Gnome, even with Exaile and such open, as well as Compiz Fusion.


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tdrusk
October 14th, 2007, 04:04 PM
You know, the new Xubuntu sure does look nice, and it does look enticing, but why do people go with it? I mean, the moment you open your first GNOME app in this Xubuntu environment, that's the moment that the GNOME shared object libraries get loaded into memory. Not everything is made to be optimized just for Xubuntu yet, so you have higher odds of GNOME being loaded into RAM eventually.

I mean, here's my output on Feisty from all things GNOME loaded in my memory on my system:


5197 ? S 0:39 172 1222 121845 29656 5.7 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default2
4509 ? Ssl 0:00 1 274 12053 1964 0.3 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid
4544 ? Ss 0:00 0 13 3046 1268 0.2 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid
4590 ? Ss 0:00 0 267 11952 1456 0.2 /usr/sbin/gdm
4593 ? S 0:00 1 267 12312 2388 0.4 /usr/sbin/gdm
5173 ? S 0:00 0 19 2640 628 0.1 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
5176 ? S 0:01 2 47 6632 4200 0.8 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 6
5179 ? S 0:00 0 84 2671 1000 0.1 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon
5181 ? Sl 0:14 27 156 29555 10132 1.9 /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon
5196 ? S 0:54 79 478 58197 21680 4.2 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default1
5207 ? Ss 0:00 0 49 19618 5776 1.1 gnome-volume-manager --sm-client-id default4
5212 ? S 0:00 2 82 8377 3436 0.6 /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-daemon
5246 ? S 0:00 8 22 39985 8164 1.5 gnome-cups-icon --sm-client-id default3
5250 ? Ss 0:01 1 252 34187 6628 1.2 gnome-power-manager
5262 ? S 0:00 1 34 65253 9644 1.8 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/trashapplet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=21
5264 ? S 0:02 7 37 36070 13528 2.6 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=27
5266 ? S 0:00 1 22 2437 884 0.1 /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burner/mapping-daemon
5326 ? Ss 0:44 0 123 15940 4492 0.8 gnome-screensaver
22921 ? Sl 0:00 17 279 57860 16664 3.2 gnome-terminal
22923 ? S 0:00 1 7 2452 732 0.1 gnome-pty-helper



It uses 26.9MB. Is that really such a big deal? If I load Xubuntu will I really save that much more memory? And, again, I just don't see why to go with Xubuntu when the moment I load my first GNOME app all these shared objects start loading into RAM again, and there are not enough made-for-XFCE apps yet.

xfce environment is lighter than gnomes. when you load a gnome program you don't load every gnome library. If you load every gnome app it would be stupid, but for just one or 2 xfce is good.

mrbungle
October 14th, 2007, 05:07 PM
just love how much faster it is.