Mezzo Desktop In Ubuntu

[GavinX]

Out of curiosity, I decided to install the Mezzo desktop in Ubuntu from a repo which was posted earlier. After installing it, I began to do some exploring. I know that it is in Alpha stage and so will try to be reasonable. However, in terms of actual appearance, I rate Mezzo very, very low. If you ask me, I think that the default Ubuntu desktop is much more attractive. Secondly, navigating the menu is seriously flawed. ALL of the programs are just placed in one continuous menu, without any sub-menu or any sort of grouping. To further complicte matters, the menu items are NOT placed in alphabetical order. So, iagine how hard it is to find a program. I also dislike the fact that the desktop cannot be customized. As a result, I imagine that all Mezzo desktops will look the same (phew, how boring). All in all, I know that there's much work to be done on this desktop environment.

Big question: Would I recommend that it become a part of Ubuntu repos? Absolutely not.

[BWF89]

Just by looking at the screenshots I didn't like Mezzo either. When I click on my desktop I don't want to have to worry about clicking on a foulder built into my wallpaper.

When I have used Linux I much prefered Gnome. But even with Gnome theres a few things that I don't like. When you use Gnome you have 2 bars. 1 is for your opened windows and 1 is for your Applications button and placing all your frequently used programs. But I much prefer KDE's style of doing things. Just have 1 big bar and have you Applications button just be a square picture and instead of having your opened windows go across the bar like Windows does it stacks them ontop of eachother.

[xequence]

Gnome and XFCE for me.

XFCE is much faster and more custonizeable. Gnome is still good. I dont much like KDE.

[xethm55]

When I have used Linux I much prefered Gnome. But even with Gnome theres a few things that I don't like. When you use Gnome you have 2 bars. 1 is for your opened windows and 1 is for your Applications button and placing all your frequently used programs. But I much prefer KDE's style of doing things. Just have 1 big bar and have you Applications button just be a square picture and instead of having your opened windows go across the bar like Windows does it stacks them ontop of eachother.

This is possible with GNOME as well. You just need to delete the upper panel, and then add the GNOME menu (Not the customized menu), which collapses all the menus into one menu, which is just the GNOME foot (no text).to the lower panel, along with all other icons that you wish.

[N'Jal]

ALL of the programs are just placed in one continuous menu, without any sub-menu or any sort of grouping. To further complicte matters, the menu items are NOT placed in alphabetical order. So, iagine how hard it is to find a program.

Start > All Program's > 5 Min look for that newly installed program A that should be up top somewhere but is in fact illogically near the the bottom with Y.

[shrimphead]

Just by looking at the screenshots I didn't like Mezzo either. When I click on my desktop I don't want to have to worry about clicking on a foulder built into my wallpaper.

When I have used Linux I much prefered Gnome. But even with Gnome theres a few things that I don't like. When you use Gnome you have 2 bars. 1 is for your opened windows and 1 is for your Applications button and placing all your frequently used programs. But I much prefer KDE's style of doing things. Just have 1 big bar and have you Applications button just be a square picture and instead of having your opened windows go across the bar like Windows does it stacks them ontop of eachother.

so why not change it? I have just one bar at the top of my screen with menus, window lists and system tray etc all in one.

[ssck]

Just by looking at the screenshots I didn't like Mezzo either. When I click on my desktop I don't want to have to worry about clicking on a foulder built into my wallpaper.

When I have used Linux I much prefered Gnome. But even with Gnome theres a few things that I don't like. When you use Gnome you have 2 bars. 1 is for your opened windows and 1 is for your Applications button and placing all your frequently used programs. But I much prefer KDE's style of doing things. Just have 1 big bar and have you Applications button just be a square picture and instead of having your opened windows go across the bar like Windows does it stacks them ontop of eachother.

you can have one bar in gnome .... refer to screenshot .... it is customisable ..

xfce is fast though

[Knome_fan]

Big question: Would I recommend that it become a part of Ubuntu repos? Absolutely not.

This just in: Even if it becomes part of the Ubuntu repos you won't have to install it. Film at 11.

Btw., I have only played around with mezzo a bit and it sure isn't finished yet, but it's trying out some really new approaches to how a desktop can work, which is something I at least find a very positive thing.

[GavinX]

This just in: Even if it becomes part of the Ubuntu repos you won't have to install it. Film at 11.

Btw., I have only played around with mezzo a bit and it sure isn't finished yet, but it's trying out some really new approaches to how a desktop can work, which is something I at least find a very positive thing.Actually, I understand what the developers of Mezzo are trying to do as far as innovation and a new approach are concerned. However, it does not mean that every innovation is really worthwhile. For example, what could really be the rationale for having the entire desktop background as the file manager? I'm using a particular program, let's say a web browser, an it's opened on the desktop. If I wanto to access something else, then I have to first minimize the browser to access another program. On Gnome or KDE I just go into the program menu on the panel. I'm not suggesting that Mezzo should have a panel but I just find that their approach leaves something to be desired.

As far as including it in Ubuntu repos go, that is just a personal choice if I were a n Ubuntu developer. Sure, you would still have access to it by using alternative repos. As for being a part of the official Ubuntu repos, that would be something I would argue against. Just my choice, that's all.

[somuchfortheafter]

As far as including it in Ubuntu repos go, that is just a personal choice if I were a n Ubuntu developer. Sure, you would still have access to it by using alternative repos. As for being a part of the official Ubuntu repos, that would be something I would argue against. Just my choice, that's all.

exactly what authority would you be using to argue this point with, you don't maintain the servers, are not Mr. Shuttleworth, and you sure as hell dont posses the values of the oss community

[octothorpe]

first of all, Mezzo is designed for the Symphony OS distro alone. It is true that u can place it on other base systems, however, the UI itself is very dependent on its remasterd Knoppix base. The developers know of the flaws that are in the UI on other base systems and are currently trying to release a version less dependent on its knoppix base and trying to make it more compatilel with all Debian systems by changing the base to progeny and making it more componetized. And let us not forget that mezzo is only about a year old and is in a distro that hasnt even reached beta status yet. but we all know that gnome was perfect right off the bat dont we Anyway, if I were you, id get my facts together before i start judging things in a public forum. Maybe theres a reason ur sig says "Moderator Wannabe".........

[GavinX]

Anyway, if I were you, id get my facts together before i start judging things in a public forumActually, I've been doing my research on the Mezzo desktop for some months now. Contrary to what your personal views are about my lack of "knowledge" as far as Mezzo is concerned I know that its base is now being switched to Progeny. As a matter of fact, that's where I downloaded the version which I am still testing on my box. And as I also indicated in my posts, the comments I've made are based on MY PERSONAL choice and preferences. Someone else may like Mezzo's approach and I would respect that. Also, no one expects Mezzo to be "perfect", especially after only a year of development. Both Gnome and KDE still have flaws after so many years of development. I'm not critiquing Mezzo based on whatever developmental flaws there are, what I'm actually drawing attention to is the fact that MY PERSONAL VIEW is that it's a bad idea to have the Desktop as the file manager. I know there are others who share this view.

Finally, I really do not take kindly to your remark about my sig. Please let's not get personal.

[octothorpe]

MY PERSONAL VIEW is that it's a bad idea to have the Desktop as the file manager. I know there are others who share this view.


ooo, and do u want a cookie?


I know that its base is now being switched to Progeny. As a matter of fact, that's where I downloaded the version which I am still testing on my box

and still this is the version that is still quite dependent on the Knoppix base because the developers are still workin on releasing a more independent version possibly in the next two weeks.

[GavinX]

ooo, and do u want a cookie?Actually, I prefer a chocolate bar, preferably Mars. :smile:




and still this is the version that is still quite dependent on the Knoppix base because the developers are still workin on releasing a more independent version possibly in the next two weeks.That would be great. I'll be sure to give it a try when it's released.

[octothorpe]

o and btw, the desktop isnt a file manager, the desktop is the menu system. rox-filer is the file manager. i just thought u might like to know

[GavinX]

o and btw, the desktop isnt a file manager, the desktop is the menu system. rox-filer is the file manager. i just thought u might like to knowThanks for the correction and information. I'm not so filled with conceit that I would not admit that you are right and I'm wrong. Now why would I want my desktop to be my menu system?