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Phil Airtime
October 9th, 2007, 11:28 AM
...how on earth do the people behind it ever expect to be taken seriously in, say, the business world when using silly names like "Feisty Fawn" or "Gutsy Gibbon" in public? They're fine as code names for future versions, but these names are put in Ubuntu press releases, therefore get used all over the mainstream press.

Can't these frankly daft monikers be restricted to testing / beta use and the far more professional-sounding "7.10" and "8.04 LTS" be adopted for use in PRs and when referring to the finished versions? Honest to god, they sound like bad 1970s porn stars and don't do this polished, stable OS justice.

Joeb454
October 9th, 2007, 11:30 AM
I don't think I want to know what kind of 70's porn you used to watch (or still do)...I'll leave that to you.


And I think it's just a community thing, it's an easy way to refer to the various releases, because I'm guessing some people don't understand the Y.MM naming

xtang
October 9th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Eh, since when did people take ubuntu seriously:)

Joeb454
October 9th, 2007, 11:36 AM
Lol, this is true.

What annoys me is when people switching from Windows expect it to be absoultely flawless and have everything work for them without any effort.

There should be a big thing on the download page that says:

"IF YOU ARE A WINDOWS USER, DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING TO WORK STRAIGHT AWAY"

I think that might get the message across and stop a lot of "Ubuntu is still rubbish" posts

BigSilly
October 9th, 2007, 11:37 AM
What the hell difference does it make?

Phil Airtime
October 9th, 2007, 11:40 AM
What the hell difference does it make?

None, I guess. But it just gets on my t!ts, in the same way as the bloke with the novelty ties and Homer Simpson socks at work.

Joeb454
October 9th, 2007, 11:42 AM
lol, I can see where your coming from, but I hope that you know it's not likely to change anytime soon.

I can't remember what 8.04 LTS is actually codenamed, but I remember telling myself I'm better of thinking of it as Horny Hedgehog, because then at least I'll remember it exists :p

stimpack
October 9th, 2007, 11:53 AM
They are going for the desktop user. RedHat and Novell do the looking serious for business bit.

If Ubuntu is serious about going after business, yes the names are wrong, Tux should be put to sleep and many other things that look unprofessional would need to change, even these forums(extreme content wise). This is sooo desktop land, and thats fine by me.

Joeb454
October 9th, 2007, 11:55 AM
I like the forums, Community Cafe is a good place to either bash Windows (I don't tend to do it, and usually in these forums it's far to extreme).

And I'm happy with Ubuntu being a user friendly desktop system, means I can let other people use my PC and they won't try and fiddle with it because it's different, they'll just surf the net :p

Spr0k3t
October 9th, 2007, 12:02 PM
...how on earth do the people behind it ever expect to be taken seriously in, say, the business world when using silly names like "Feisty Fawn" or "Gutsy Gibbon" in public? They're fine as code names for future versions, but these names are put in Ubuntu press releases, therefore get used all over the mainstream press.

Stop for a second. Take a look at the official web site. Find a reference to Feisty Fawn from the "Get Ubuntu" section. You won't find it. This is detailed in the wiki where the development names are dropped on release of the product. However, that doesn't stop me from saying I'm using Feisty or Gutsy as a person to person statement. The word of mouth advertising just sticks. The press adopts the naming scheme from the end users; You will notice the official press releases mention the release name at least once and finish with the release numbers.

Circus-Killer
October 9th, 2007, 12:07 PM
really, people look into things way too seriously. first of all, i think they use those names BECAUSE its less professional, doesnt have any real meaning, and because its easy to come up with a new name every 6 months when you have a sceme like 'adjective animal'.

names like xp/vista could be seem in much the same way, and opposite, in the sense that it is too professional, has absolutely no relavence, and try to make it sound like something its not. i would pick gutsy over vista anyday.

if you need a name to enable for people to take you seriously, then you have nothing to offer but a name. you should be able to offer people much more substance, with or without a clever name. if i had to use the nickname 'erectile disfunction' but still gave you a great solution to your problem on ubuntuforums, it wouldnt matter what i called myself.

if you want to judge products by name, then by all mean, use windows, drive a merc, and wear levi. but for those who want substance over name, we will use ubuntu, drive a volkswagen and wear any cloths without a name on it. :guitar:

Tomosaur
October 9th, 2007, 12:22 PM
...how on earth do the people behind it ever expect to be taken seriously in, say, the business world when using silly names like "Feisty Fawn" or "Gutsy Gibbon" in public? They're fine as code names for future versions, but these names are put in Ubuntu press releases, therefore get used all over the mainstream press.

Can't these frankly daft monikers be restricted to testing / beta use and the far more professional-sounding "7.10" and "8.04 LTS" be adopted for use in PRs and when referring to the finished versions? Honest to god, they sound like bad 1970s porn stars and don't do this polished, stable OS justice.

Perhaps the 'business world' needs to lighten up.

multifaceted
October 9th, 2007, 12:46 PM
I cannot grasp on how this is an issue to someone........

EdThaSlayer
October 9th, 2007, 12:50 PM
Just call it Ubuntu 7.10 if you don't like Gutsy Gibbon.

Phil Airtime
October 9th, 2007, 01:19 PM
I cannot grasp on how this is an issue to someone........

My tongue is firmly in my cheek.

LaRoza
October 9th, 2007, 01:25 PM
At least it is an actual name:

Windows CE
Windows ME
Windows NT

"Windows CEMENT"

DOS 6.22

Windows 3.1

Windows 95, 98

Windows XP

Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Ultimate

Makes you want to gag.

At least Ubuntu has a consistant and better naming scheme, line up all the releases, you get Ubuntu <version> <nickname>, much better than Windows <randomNameMSDecidesToUse>

vishzilla
October 9th, 2007, 01:29 PM
IMO. these code names embodies what the release truly is about. Kudos to the developers in bringing out such names. I prefer calling by the code names rather than 7.04 or 7.10

ericartman
October 9th, 2007, 01:32 PM
"IF YOU ARE A WINDOWS USER, DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING TO WORK STRAIGHT AWAY"

Why, especially considering my experience with Vista, is there a comma in that sentence?

"IF YOU ARE A WINDOWS USER DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING TO WORK STRAIGHT AWAY"


Thats better.

Sorry but when I first fired up my Vista machine
Lost desktop picture, never could make it show, only got Nero video editing software to work, Adobe products never worked, and my Vista certified Brother MFC wouldn't copy, or fax. Lol in just a few hours I had all of what I wanted working in Ubuntu. Microsoft may have gotten all that fixed by now I just never went back to check, now that you mention it I guess it's time to delete that partition altogether.

Cart

BTW I like Gutsy for a name much better than Vista or XP but then I'm retired and worrying about things like names got locked in my desk at work years ago. Probably by my secretary Phuc Tran (just like it's spelled, lol)

Cart

multifaceted
October 9th, 2007, 02:05 PM
My tongue is firmly in my cheek.

I make up my own names...

Flamboyant Ferret

Gregarious Gerbil

Hermaphrodite Heifer

Idiosyncratic Iguana

Jealous Jellyfish

dnns123
October 9th, 2007, 02:22 PM
"IF YOU ARE A WINDOWS USER, DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING TO WORK STRAIGHT AWAY"

Why, especially considering my experience with Vista, is there a comma in that sentence?

"IF YOU ARE A WINDOWS USER DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING TO WORK STRAIGHT AWAY"



I prefer, "IF YOU ARE A WINDOWS USER DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING WILL WORK"

Now thats much better!:lolflag:

Polygon
October 9th, 2007, 02:46 PM
well even if the development names are dropped after release, they are still used a lot of places.... the user agent string in firefox... the system information thing in system monitor.... the repo links.... etc.

i dont mind calling my os 'gutsy' any more then i do calling something 'vista' 'xp 'mac os x'.

ticopelp
October 9th, 2007, 03:12 PM
I don't think I want to know what kind of 70's porn you used to watch (or still do)...I'll leave that to you.

:lolflag:

They should come up with whimsical business-centered names for the distros. Like Tenacious TPS Report or Mandatory Meeting or Obstreperous Outsourcing.

On second thought, maybe not.

Blacklightbulb
June 22nd, 2009, 11:35 PM
I certainly don't want UBUNTU to become commercial. Who dumps Linux because of the name isn't worthy of benefiting from it's use.

Bigtime_Scrub
June 22nd, 2009, 11:52 PM
How is Feisty Fawn or Hardy Heron any different then Apple naming OSX Leapord or Tiger? It works for Mac. Besides it differentiates itself from Windows and makes Ubuntu less intimidating then Ubuntu Linux- Debian/GNU based distribution 9.04. New users will say wtf is that?!

0per4t0r
June 22nd, 2009, 11:58 PM
The code names signify that the OS is made by ACTUAL PEOPLE. Which goes with the saying "Linux For Human Beings." Anyway, it's their fault if people don't take it seriously just because of the codenames, because then they'll miss out on a great product.

Polaris96
June 23rd, 2009, 01:05 AM
Who cares about the names!

Answer: MANY of the kind of people that become buyers for corporations.

You know what else they care about? Liability contracts, support, and being percieved as "old school conservative" by their associates. Such people will not be interested in Linux, no matter what name it has. I doubt they'd even be interested in Apple, which is basically the same as Microsoft.

ALL HAIL THE JAUNTY JACKALOPE!! Say it luodly and proudly!

ahmygodthatwasfun :) lol

monsterstack
June 23rd, 2009, 02:15 AM
:lolflag:

They should come up with whimsical business-centered names for the distros. Like Tenacious TPS Report or Mandatory Meeting or Obstreperous Outsourcing.

On second thought, maybe not.

I'm liking that idea, but a real business-oriented distribution needs a much blander name. Something more like,


Probuntu Enterprise Premium®
Professional Paradigm OS 2.0®
Business Plus Pro Premium®


Something so atrociously corporate and dull that any normal person will want to vomit when they see the name.

DeadSuperHero
June 23rd, 2009, 07:17 AM
The code names signify that the OS is made by ACTUAL PEOPLE.

Has code ever been made by anyone that wasn't a person?

0per4t0r
June 23rd, 2009, 03:55 PM
Has code ever been made by anyone that wasn't a person?
I don't think businessmen count as NORMAL people. Ubuntu is made by NORMAL people, like just your average joe, but Windoze is made by corporate professional blah blah blahs.