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Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 08:52 PM
I've been running Ubuntu since the beginning of summer, and now I want to try more things. However, I've got my desktop set up nicely the way I want, and I'm not gonna screw it up until Gutsy is released in November.
However, I've emailed one of the IT-guys at my school, and hopefully they'll have some old computers that they are willing to part with for little to no money. If not, then I guess I'll have to get a second computer some other way. The point is that I'm not looking for a computer for daily use. I'm looking for a computer to experiment with.

So, I come to you seeking advice about what distros to try first. As I said, I've already tried Ubuntu, so I'm not going to install that on the second computer. Don't worry though, I will get around to installing most, if not all of them in due time. I just want your help choosing where to start.

The options are:
PCLinuxOS
openSUSE
Fedora
Sabayon
Mandriva
Damn Small Linux
Slackware
ArchLinux
DreamLinux
Other (Please specify)

HermanAB
September 23rd, 2007, 08:57 PM
Hmm, PCLinuxOS is a simplified Mandriva, which is a better RedHat, which is a crummy Fedora, which is a worse Suse...
;)

So, PCLinuxOS as the first try is probably best, since it uses Synaptic just like Ubuntu, which you are already familiar with.

Cheers,

H.

Lord Illidan
September 23rd, 2007, 08:58 PM
Zenwalk? It is a derivative of slackware, and it's small and very powerful. Comes with xfce. Fast, and it has a repository for most common applications.

Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 09:02 PM
Hmm, PCLinuxOS is a simplified Mandriva, which is a better RedHat, which is a crummy Fedora, which is a worse Suse...
;)Wow, I knew about the relationship between Fedora and RedHat, but I had no idea that ALL those distros were related.


Zenwalk? It is a derivative of slackware, and it's small and very powerful. Comes with xfce. Fast, and it has a repository for most common applications.Ah, I forgot about that one!

Thanks for your input!

happy-and-lost
September 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM
Arch is fun to play with

starcraft.man
September 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM
If you don't want to screw up your main machine, easiest way to try out other distributions is Virtual Machines. Look at Virtual Box (http://www.virtualbox.org/) or VMware (I recommend first). Long as you got a GB of RAM and a decent machine should run well. The other means of course would be repartitioning and installing direct to your HD, might be a bit of a bother if your not interested in using them long term. I don't see a reason for you to need a second machine though for trying out distros, a VM should do fine if all you want is to see the differences.

As for what distro to try first, I don't really have one I'd recommend over any other. All are different so just start with the first and work your way down.

mostwanted
September 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM
I've always wanted to try SUSE one more time, but the price of blank media doesn't agree with me. Foresight looks interesting too.

rfruth
September 23rd, 2007, 09:04 PM
DEB or RPM (yast) ?

Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 09:08 PM
If you don't want to screw up your main machine, easiest way to try out other distributions is Virtual Machines. Look at Virtual Box (http://www.virtualbox.org/) or VMware (I recommend first). Long as you got a GB of RAM and a decent machine should run well. The other means of course would be repartitioning and installing direct to your HD, might be a bit of a bother if your not interested in using them long term. I don't see a reason for you to need a second machine though for trying out distros, a VM should do fine if all you want is to see the differences.
It amazes me how the thought of a virtual box never even occured to me...
But seriously, it's a lot more fun to play around with an old crap box from school. It gives me an excuse to sit on the floor with a screwdriver :D
But yeah, if I don't get a second machine I guess I could use a virtual machine.


DEB or RPM (yast) ?
Preferably DEB, but I'll try anything.

Lord Illidan
September 23rd, 2007, 09:11 PM
Hmm, PCLinuxOS is a simplified Mandriva, which is a better RedHat, which is a crummy Fedora, which is a worse Suse...What are you talking about? RedHat came first! Then, Mandrake, then Fedora. Suse is unrelated, it came from Slackware originally, then absorbed some parts of RedHat Linux.

EDIT : If it's an old OS, also try Arch and DSL as well as Zenwalk.

Mud.Knee.Havoc
September 23rd, 2007, 09:34 PM
Here's my advice if you've got a second computer that you want to use to play with linux:

1. Go to distrowatch.com.
2. Copy the list of distros into a text editor and print it off.
3. Download the first one, install it, play with it for a while.
4. When you get bored, download the next distro and install it.
5. Goto 4.

Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 09:35 PM
I got all psyched up just by thinking of all of this, so now I'm installing Fedora 7 on a Virtual Machine. *giggles like a freak* It takes forever to install though ...

LookTJ
September 23rd, 2007, 09:40 PM
I would say Arch Linux

Pancetilla
September 23rd, 2007, 09:42 PM
Another vote for Arch; use it as Lego bricks to slowly build your system, you'll learn a lot in the process (great wiki, forum and support docs included)

RAV TUX
September 23rd, 2007, 10:19 PM
I've been running Ubuntu since the beginning of summer, and now I want to try more things. However, I've got my desktop set up nicely the way I want, and I'm not gonna screw it up until Gutsy is released in November.
However, I've emailed one of the IT-guys at my school, and hopefully they'll have some old computers that they are willing to part with for little to no money. If not, then I guess I'll have to get a second computer some other way. The point is that I'm not looking for a computer for daily use. I'm looking for a computer to experiment with.

So, I come to you seeking advice about what distros to try first. As I said, I've already tried Ubuntu, so I'm not going to install that on the second computer. Don't worry though, I will get around to installing most, if not all of them in due time. I just want your help choosing where to start.

The options are:
PCLinuxOS
openSUSE
Fedora
Sabayon
Mandriva
Damn Small Linux
Slackware
ArchLinux
DreamLinux
Other (Please specify)

Other: Elive Gem 1.0

R.Bucky
September 23rd, 2007, 10:27 PM
VMware is fine for testing new OS. Clearly LiveCD's are my frist choice. I would try out Gnewsense.1.1 which is KDE (vs.Gnome) and MEPIS. You could also tr out installing KDE or Xfce on top of Unbuntu if you are simply getting bored with the setup.

RAV TUX
September 23rd, 2007, 10:39 PM
VMware is fine for testing new OS. Clearly LiveCD's are my frist choice. I would try out Gnewsense.1.1 which is KDE (vs.Gnome) and MEPIS. You could also tr out installing KDE or Xfce on top of Unbuntu if you are simply getting bored with the setup.This is actually good advice try using all the different DE within your current install before trying new distros.

fwojciec
September 23rd, 2007, 10:44 PM
Another vote for Arch; use it as Lego bricks to slowly build your system, you'll learn a lot in the process (great wiki, forum and support docs included)

This is actually one of the most fitting descriptions of Arch (and Arch experience) I've heard in a while. Arch would also be my recommendation :)

Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 11:10 PM
Moahaha! This is just soo much fun!
I've tried KDE, GNOME and xfce. Out of those my favorite is GNOME. But I want to try fluxbox too.

Right now I'm installing ZenWalk. Fedora crashes after a little while, for an unknown reason. I'll get to tinkering with that later, right now I'm too tired.

RAV TUX
September 23rd, 2007, 11:16 PM
Moahaha! This is just soo much fun!
I've tried KDE, GNOME and xfce. Out of those my favorite is GNOME. But I want to try fluxbox too.

Right now I'm installing ZenWalk. Fedora crashes after a little while, for an unknown reason. I'll get to tinkering with that later, right now I'm too tired.try e17 out also on your desktop.

Two other recommendations for distros:

1. Wolvix (based on Slackware)
2. PC-BSD (based on FreeBSD)

regomodo
September 23rd, 2007, 11:28 PM
Debian




If you don't want to screw up your main machine, easiest way to try out other distributions is Virtual Machines. Look at Virtual Box (http://www.virtualbox.org/) or VMware (I recommend first). Long as you got a GB of RAM and a decent machine should run well. The other means of course would be repartitioning and installing direct to your HD, might be a bit of a bother if your not interested in using them long term. I don't see a reason for you to need a second machine though for trying out distros, a VM should do fine if all you want is to see the differences.

I don't think it's as simple as that. For some reason i've had trouble getting some distro's to work in VBOX. NimbleX, LFS, Gentoo, Arch all had issues booting for me.

Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 11:28 PM
try e17 out also on your desktop.
I've requested a free download of Elive (which uses enlightenment). So if my request is approved I'll try it out.

Frak
September 23rd, 2007, 11:30 PM
Try SymphonyOS or Elive GEM, I've tried SymphonyOS, and it is simplistic and elegant, while RAV TUX has said some very good stuff on Elive GEM, so it must be good. :)

Nevon
September 23rd, 2007, 11:48 PM
Elive looked very good, so hopefully I'll get to try that.

Regomondo - I also had trouble booting Arch in vbox.

regomodo
September 23rd, 2007, 11:58 PM
Elive looked very good, so hopefully I'll get to try that.

Regomondo - I also had trouble booting Arch in vbox.

TFFT. I keep thinking it's me as i get no search results on Google (relevant) when something goes wrong

Nevon
September 24th, 2007, 12:16 AM
I just installed Mandriva, and damn does that distro look good or what?! I'm starting to like KDE more and more.

EDIT: Eh, it's kinda late where I live. So I'm not actually trying out the distros much. I'm just taking a little peek at them for now.

plb
September 24th, 2007, 12:18 AM
If you want to _learn_ linux...slackware. If you're looking for something that will most likely help you in the job market later on....redhat or suse.

uputer
September 24th, 2007, 01:34 AM
You mean Fedora or SUSE, don't you?

I think those are the good RPM ones but I haven't tried them yet although I have booted up a Fedora 7 Live CD.

ev5unleash1
September 24th, 2007, 01:36 AM
Ubuntu

Bruce M.
September 24th, 2007, 02:02 AM
OK, I gotta ask ... different distros?
Isn't Linux ... Linux?
I'm a real newbie to Linux (U 7.04) , as you probably know from my first two lines.
Are you saying the commands I learn in Ubuntu are not good in RedHat, SUSE, Fedora or whatever?
How lucky or unlucky was I in choosing Ubuntu as my first Linux experience?

regomodo
September 24th, 2007, 08:21 AM
OK, I gotta ask ... different distros?
Isn't Linux ... Linux?
I'm a real newbie to Linux (U 7.04) , as you probably know from my first two lines.
Are you saying the commands I learn in Ubuntu are not good in RedHat, SUSE, Fedora or whatever?
How lucky or unlucky was I in choosing Ubuntu as my first Linux experience?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel

Ubuntu is a good way to break into Linux

Nevon
September 24th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I'm also fairly new to Linux, so I probably won't get everything right, but I'll try.
Linux comes in several different distributions, like Ubuntu or Fedora. The difference between the distributions (or distros for short) can be very small (for example Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu) or very big (Slackware vs. Ubuntu). In some cases the only difference might be that a few other packages are installed by default, and in some cases the experience might be TOTALLY different.
Think of it this way, "Linux" is just a base. The different distros are the result of modifications to that base.
The commands you learn are called "bash" and are used in a number of different distributions, so if you try another distro your knowledge of bash will most likely be of use. I think Ubuntu is a good distro to start off with. It's good for becoming less afraid of the command line.

blithen
September 24th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Ubuntu

o.o; Are you kidding me?
Not to be mean but this is a thread about which distro he should tryout next. He already uses Ubuntu. >_>

nvteighen
September 24th, 2007, 09:16 AM
If you want a distro that IMO may be very interesting it's gNewSense Delta D (an Ubuntu 6.06 fork). It's aim is to be absolutely free (as in freedom) and it's sponsored by the Free Software Foundation. It is not very usable now, is a bit old and has still some references to Ubuntu that should be removed soon; ah, and it comes in a Live CD. I really expect a lot of that distro.

tbrminsanity
April 21st, 2009, 10:33 PM
I have a similar question; With Ubuntu 9.04 just around the corner, I wanted to try try a bunch of different Distros first to see if there was any that I may like more then Ubuntu. I also want to find a Distro that will work better for my work Laptop. Here are my criteria though:

Must have great 64-bit support
Must have a full list of apps in the package manager (I hate building from source)
Should be either Gnome or XFCE. I'm not a big fan of KDE.
Should come with a lot of out of the box support for multimedia (mainly flash, codexs, and such)


For my work laptop I have to use one of the following Linux Distros as they are the only ones that support the IBM Linux layer and tools (like Lotus):

RHEL 5 (the most supported by my workplace)
Fedora (lots of support)
Suse (ok support)
Debian (ok support)
Ubuntu (ok support, and my current OS)

linux4life88
April 21st, 2009, 10:59 PM
I voted other, I would give Zenwalk a try. I really like this distro and it runs great on older computers.