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t3chb0y
September 6th, 2007, 07:50 AM
Over the past summer I've been talking to people and gotten expierence as well as working and setting up the club I'll be having over the upcoming school year (high school).

The thing is that many people are too scared to even tryLinux or in this case Ubuntu. I've heard lots of "friends" complain about their computers being a slug ( malware...what else?)... One of my friends suggested to try Ubuntu and see if they liked it or not. Immediately , they were like in some state of fear and then making claims that Linux isn't compatible and that it's too hard to use.
Not to mention , several people referred me to as one of those "church people who try to convert you into their religion" ( that's rather harsh from my opinion and I've gotten frustrated from such feedback)

Main point : Considering from that experience , that would be a typical HS student? Due to the fact that everyone is so used to Windows , they fear change and anything different.

Me and one of my friends got onto Linux mainly because of boredom and that we wanted to try something different.

So the situation is that I'm making a school club that's promoting Linux and open-source (but at the same time giving users choice to use both Windows or Linux since I'm not anti-Microsoft). I've asked people about what they think of it...they all say that it's gonna probably just immediately fail. ( Thing is that there's no other tech club at school )

Here's a brochure I made that me and my friend would be distributing on "Club Day 2007"
they're 2 pictures of front and back of the brochure.

http://lxs-online.info.tm/pubdocs/broshurev2_cd07/

So basically what would be good ways into getting people into linux w/o the impression of them thinking we're like "church people"?

peromalosutra
September 6th, 2007, 09:20 PM
Hmm, it's quite hard to promote linux, becouse people are so used to windows (as you alredy noticed).. I thing that good way of promoting linux are install parties.. People are sceptic but probably curios enough to come to see what's happeining :) They are usualy thrilled after turning on compiz and deskotop efects.. After the demonstration share some cd's and offcourse, explain that they can boot it in live mode without actually installing the OS. This will give them time of getting used to new system.. But the number of "converted ones" will still probably be quite small, peoples are simply too pasive..

matthewboh
September 7th, 2007, 02:10 PM
I always like to point out that Ubuntu has gotten Top 100 products for 2006 and 2007 from PC Magazine. Only one other operating system has ever made it into the Top 100, and that was Mac OS X. Also, point out the dual boot capabilities

rzrgenesys187
September 7th, 2007, 02:14 PM
The best way i've found to get people to try linux is to let them install vista

RudolfMDLT
September 7th, 2007, 02:31 PM
The best way i've found to get people to try linux is to let them install vista

LOL! to true! :)

I got onto Ubuntu out of boredom as well and lack of software stimulation in my engineering course. The best way found to get people onto Ubuntu was to introduce them to the idea of hundreds of free software packages, do cool things with Ubuntu and tell them about it.

A lot of my friends can't afford vista and when I brought my laptop to varsity and showed them Beryl and Compiz on my Ubuntu machine running matlab they where very impressed. also, the free algebraic system and IDE's got them interested. Though we are electrical engineers and geeks by default :P - so it might have been easier for me to interest my friends in a new toy than it would be to interest highschool kids.

Anyway - show them that you can play games on linux, that stuff is free and that Ubuntu is cool to work with and VERY customizable and thee'll come over to the brown side. Don't try and convert them - rather make them see the limits of windows for them selves. I have had many a person that are hapy with windows, I've also had a couple of very ignorent people come acros my path. If the people are open minded and you are relaxed about the whole thing, the people that should convert will and the people that shouldn't won't.

It's better that way, if you force some one to try Ubuntu they are gonna try and XP-fy it and it'll just frustrate them.

Anyway, I like the front of the brochure, thought he back imediatly screams TECHY and that might scare people off. Keep it basic and noobish?

Further I think your doing a great thing! :)

Cheers,

Rudolf

por100pre1
September 9th, 2007, 08:32 PM
You can try focusing more in compiz-fusion/beryl and many open source programs, look for the funnier to use that you can find. Install parties are a good idea too. :)

t3chb0y
September 10th, 2007, 11:14 PM
You can try focusing more in compiz-fusion/beryl and many open source programs, look for the funnier to use that you can find. Install parties are a good idea too. :)

I'm thinking of doing that but with Install Fests...I can't think of any good locaton with internet access (school's internet is like worse than dial-up even though it's T1 shared among the whole district)

update 1: today I got an advisor to comply (he was somewhat eager too ) with LXS...

Now I just wonder about one thing....we have a daily bulletin that allows us to put 3 lines worth of stuff to 'advertise' our club...however , i'm having a sorta hard time trying to figure out what works best with 'joe-average' besides no mal-ware...( i also want to include some stuff like learning how to build a comp. since i suppose it's 'cool' for us high schoolers )

RedAFlame570
September 12th, 2007, 11:50 AM
I'll be honest, I am on the fence myself. So I know how the others feel. I think that Linux is a good system from the different distros I tried out but for me to tear away from Windows right away is hard to do. I do understand the advantages and disadvantages of Linox but I am stuck in the middle waiting for a hard sell. I'm not saying that I am not willing to try Linux. Like in previous threads I've read, I'm in fear of voiding any warranty I have if I install Linux. Tjhats where my problem lies right now.

t3chb0y
September 13th, 2007, 12:09 AM
I'll be honest, I am on the fence myself. So I know how the others feel. I think that Linux is a good system from the different distros I tried out but for me to tear away from Windows right away is hard to do. I do understand the advantages and disadvantages of Linox but I am stuck in the middle waiting for a hard sell. I'm not saying that I am not willing to try Linux. Like in previous threads I've read, I'm in fear of voiding any warranty I have if I install Linux. Tjhats where my problem lies right now.

Warranty is voided with Linux :confused: ?

If it was a hardware failure of any kind ..the manufacturer should be able to cover it regardless...

kopinux
September 13th, 2007, 12:31 AM
how about using the ubuntu hype, the ubuntu club
or use those penguin cg movies.

gnuman
September 14th, 2007, 03:15 AM
I'll be honest, I am on the fence myself. So I know how the others feel. I think that Linux is a good system from the different distros I tried out but for me to tear away from Windows right away is hard to do. I do understand the advantages and disadvantages of Linox but I am stuck in the middle waiting for a hard sell....

Micro$oft likes to do all the selling, to be honest.

To the OP:

I sponsor a high school programming club. Nothing gets people interested in Linux like taking in my laptop and showing them how cool it is. Suddenly Linux is "hip" at our school. A local paper ran an article about Linux that got passed around. Also, some students know how much freedom Linux allows the user.

That said, I still use Windows with some of the programming we do. We still run open-source packages on Windows. When the student see how those same packages are in the package managers, Ubuntu seems quite familiar to them by then.

:)

t3chb0y
September 30th, 2007, 09:58 AM
I've turned in all the applications and stuff recently...

My adviser has told me that the word 'syndicate' can possibly give off the wrong impression...(criminal organization >_>)

Therefore I'm thinking of a last minute name change...

Any ideas (innovative) ...I was thinking of using the Linux Society but seeing how common that is ...I really don't know what to do...

preferably it should use LXS ( since i don't feel like changing all the logos and stuff after this much work )

rudeboyskunk
October 1st, 2007, 06:46 PM
I would say one of the best things you can emphasize is that just about any distro of Linux is *free* (as in free beer). Sadly, most people don't care about the cultural and social freedom is provides, but the fact that you don't have to pay for it always turns some heads. Americans love FREE.

Keep emphasizing the no malware.

Remind gamers that Linux is very efficient at multi-tasking, whlie Windows is not, and that Linux uses way less resources than Windows while running a game. Point out that Nvidia and ATI support Linux.

Have a special section of the club just for Linux gaming. That way everybody can work on WINE together (or Cedega, should you choose).

Those are just a few things. Everybody else has pointed out great things. What you are doing is AWESOME, and should be encouragement to everyone else (including me!) to start Linux clubs in their school, community or workplace.

Good luck!

multifaceted
October 3rd, 2007, 08:16 PM
The best way i've found to get people to try linux is to let them install vista

LOL!..... YOU,..... you're good you, You, you're good ha ha ha

I'd like to go out for a beer with you. But, then again, you are from Pittsburgh....j/k....j/k
:)

t3chb0y
October 6th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Alright , so our TCHS Club Day 2007 ended up being a disaster with so many brochures and fliers not distributed :( ...Then again most of the time it was location , location , location >__>. Not that many people were really interested either but anyways ...I'll be using Ubuntu as a foundation since it's a distro I feel "at home" at but the students would be free to choose what distro that they want to use..

I guess that means there may be some new members over time on this forum if there's any issue that I or my co-president find hard to fix or otherwise by referral...

I'll keep you guys updated...Also , I'm open to suggestions