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Chymera
August 25th, 2007, 12:54 PM
http://www.wgavistaquiz.com/welcome.aspx

No, i, unlike most ppl here, have not made a habit out of bashing windows, but thist must be the dumbest thing i read since june ...

Just look at the questions, and oh my god just look at those self-@ss-kissing phrases "grace period", "validation protects the customer"

mikex
August 25th, 2007, 01:02 PM
LOL - pretty "easy" quiz, if you can think like they do.

smoker
August 25th, 2007, 01:02 PM
What are the benefits of genuine Windows Vista?

improved user interface

faster pc performance

full protection from spyware and malware

all of the above

hmm, couldn't get past the first question, nothing there i agreed with!

popch
August 25th, 2007, 01:08 PM
I think MS has made great progress, even to the profit of the Linux community. I mean, what other vendor bashes itself just so that we don't have to do that anymore?

popch
August 25th, 2007, 01:10 PM
hmm, couldn't get past the first question, nothing there i agreed with!

What they are saying is that Vista has


no improved user interface
no faster pc performance
no full protection from spyware and malware


Truth in advertising, at last!

dulbirakan
August 25th, 2007, 01:42 PM
hmm, couldn't get past the first question, nothing there i agreed with!

+1 here

GFree678
August 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM
That was terrible. :(

Plus the second question was wrong - when I was running a cracked version of Vista ultimate I suffered absolutely none of the stated issues, because if Microsoft were to deactivate my copy, they'd have to deactivate all legit OEM versions which worked in the same way!

There's enough FUD in that quiz to power a small country.

solar george
August 25th, 2007, 01:58 PM
Was that quiz meant to be ironic?

init1
August 25th, 2007, 02:05 PM
http://www.wgavistaquiz.com/welcome.aspx

No, i, unlike most ppl here, have not made a habit out of bashing windows, but thist must be the dumbest thing i read since june ...

Just look at the questions, and oh my god just look at those self-@ss-kissing phrases "grace period", "validation protects the customer"
Agreed.

DoctorMO
August 25th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Could you Imagen the anti-vista quiz; duh

Microsoft haven't quite gotten it yet; in order for them to get me 'on side' they will have to stop trumpeting technical 'features' and start talking seriously about how they're going to fix their lack of morals as a business.

RageOfOrder
August 25th, 2007, 02:37 PM
I would honestly use windows a lot more on my desktop (I play BF2142 now and again) if they would just do three things:
1) Fix the ******* user system. We don't all have to be admins all the time! Why do you think there are so many vulnerabilities? YES I WANT TO ALLOW
2) Get a proper mult-user environment. It would be nice if I could install a program using an administrator account, without logging off my user account first.
3) Fix your goddamn command line. Being a Gentoo user, I come to like it for all sorts of things that would take longer via point-n-click.

>:(

And then for bonus, you could remove all traces of WGA and DRM.

the.dark.lord
August 25th, 2007, 02:43 PM
hmm, couldn't get past the first question, nothing there i agreed with!


+1 here

+2....

happy-and-lost
August 25th, 2007, 02:47 PM
I feel sick now.

Happy_Man
August 25th, 2007, 03:09 PM
I fear for the future of computing. On a very deep and primal level.

starcraft.man
August 25th, 2007, 03:16 PM
Uh... I can't believe they made a quiz. Feels so sad...

xzero1
August 25th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Fixing the 1st question:


What are the benefits of genuine Windows Vista?

improved user interface

faster pc performance

full protection from spyware and malware

all of the above

I give up

TheKid965
August 25th, 2007, 03:38 PM
You see, I'm in a bit of a weird position... In theory, I have no problem with MS trying to prevent the piracy of their product. It's their software, after all; they do have the right to ensure that it isn't being stolen.

OTOH, the problem with WGA and other related technologies comes back to the same problem - Windows licenses are too expensive for what they are. Even the OEM version of Vista Ultimate will set you back about $200 (which, granted, is about half of what the retail box costs). When you consider the 90-95% market share MS enjoys with Windows in general, and thus how many computers out there are running it, that seems excessive and does nothing to help their image with many in the public that they are simply out to grab as much of your money as they can convince you to part with. If Windows licenses cost less -- say, in the $50-100 window for home users -- I wouldn't be so adverse to the whole idea of needing to buy a new copy every time MS decides you're not "genuine," which is currently the only surefire recourse.

I firmly believe that software piracy could be more easily dealt with if publishers just lowered the price of their products. (It cannot be mere coincidence that the most pirated programs in the world -- Windows itself, Photoshop, Office, and so on -- are also among the most expensive software packages generally available to consumers.) In the case of Photoshop, for example, which currently retails for around $600, Adobe could easily cut that price down to $200. Sure, they'd get less per sale... but more people that want to use it would actually buy it if the price was more within their means, rather than resort to pirated and cracked versions. This, I believe, would offset the lesser amount they would make per individual sale.

I don't have a problem paying for software. I have a problem paying ridiculous amounts of money for software. There is no reason, other than greed (on MS's part or others whose technology appears in the product), for Windows to be as expensive as it is. And I think Vista's slower-than-anticipated might be a wake-up call to MS that they need to start rethinking their strategy as it relates to treating their users... a bit less stick, a little more carrot.

Just IMO, of course.

popch
August 25th, 2007, 03:44 PM
Could you Imagen the anti-vista quiz; duh

Microsoft haven't quite gotten it yet; in order for them to get me 'on side' they will have to stop trumpeting technical 'features' and start talking seriously about how they're going to fix their lack of morals as a business.

What they don't realize (or realize and don't care) is that this is an appreciable cost issue for large organisations.

Up to now, large organisations used to have another license agreement and other installation media which allowed them to use Windows without individually 'freeing' each pc.

Some of those organisations are deploying PCs with automatic installation tools. They do not trouble shoot individual PCS. When one develops the hiccups it is just replaced by a working one and freshly installed. All except the replacement works quite unattended.

The new scheme demands an additional manual intervention for each PC which is freshly deployed or re-installed. The alternative consists in buying, installing, maintaining and operating extra servers which provide the license key for each machine. And afaik those servers do not work for PCs which are not connected to the corporate network. This is an increase in cost.

g2g591
August 25th, 2007, 03:46 PM
I'm sorry, but none of those things on the first question have been true for me at all

popch
August 25th, 2007, 03:49 PM
Even the OEM version of Vista Ultimate will set you back about $200 (which, granted, is about half of what the retail box costs). .

Not if you live in China. Just the other day there was a press notice which stated that there was a new agreement between MS and the People's Republic of China which set the price of the license for one PC to USD 7.--

dasunst3r
August 25th, 2007, 04:09 PM
Try the quiz again (reference: http://www.wgavistaquiz.com/welcome.aspx), but this time, replace each respective question with my questions:

What are the benefits of Ubuntu?
What are things that Canonical will NEVER, EVER do to you?
What new measures has Microsoft put in to treat you like a criminal and punish the paying customer?
What does validation give Microsoft a false sense of security over?
(No alternate question)
(No alternate question)
How is the legitimate Windows Vista user punished when online validation fails? What steps must they go through?
(No alternate question)
(No alternate question)
What is the appropriate response to a customer who asks why WGA is as painful as an anal probe?

mech7
August 25th, 2007, 04:20 PM
stupid quiz my non genuine vista works fine with updates and earo works too :p

Chymera
August 25th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I couldn't help notice that microsoft somehow finally made the sad realisation that for the most windows users windows is kind of free software... and through this quiz is desperately trying to convince ppl that they are at some risk if they dont buy their product.