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bread eyes
August 13th, 2007, 12:03 AM
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Why OpenBSD sucks
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OpenBSD sucks because:
Security is treated as the most important aspect hurting other things in general
From a practical standpoint it's as secure as Linux
It has very few drivers
It lacks features
It's really really slow
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The End
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Bachstelze
August 13th, 2007, 03:59 PM
1) True. Security and convenience are most often non compatible goals. If you value convenience more than security, feel free not tu use OpenBSD.
2) True again, but to make your Linux system totally secure, you have to do a great deal of manual configurataion, which not everyone has the time, the will or simply the knowledge to do. OpenBSD is secure by default.
3) True again, but how is it OpenBSD's fault is so few vendors are opening their drivers ? And the few driver it has work perfectly. For example, my RT73-based WiFi USB stick was recognized out of the box in OpenBSD, which was not the case in any other OS.
4) Which features are you talking about ?
5) Rubbish. Unless you bloat it yourself, it is way faster than Linux in every way.
The End : you don't know what you're talking about.
runningwithscissors
August 13th, 2007, 04:08 PM
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Why OpenBSD sucks
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OpenBSD sucks because:
Security is treated as the most important aspect hurting other things in general
From a practical standpoint it's as secure as Linux
It has very few drivers
It lacks features
It's really really slow
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The End
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Meh. It's better than Ubuntu anyway.
kellemes
August 13th, 2007, 10:41 PM
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Why OpenBSD sucks
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OpenBSD sucks because:
Security is treated as the most important aspect hurting other things in general
From a practical standpoint it's as secure as Linux
It has very few drivers
It lacks features
It's really really slow
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The End
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Some would call this a troll post.
Bachstelze
August 13th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Fell free to report it, maybe another mod ill consider it as trolling and close it :p Too late for me, I'm involved and that would create incredible fuss...
bread eyes
August 13th, 2007, 11:04 PM
3) True again, but how is it OpenBSD's fault is so few vendors are opening their drivers ? And the few driver it has work perfectly. For example, my RT73-based WiFi USB stick was recognized out of the box in OpenBSD, which was not the case in any other OS.
What about all those open source Linux drivers and all those open standards? They should be able port those drivers and understand those standards.
4) Which features are you talking about ?
The APIs
5) Rubbish. Unless you bloat it yourself, it is way faster than Linux in every way.
:lolflag:
Seriously, last time I tested it it was extremely slow and scalability test confirm this too (and those were the defaults).
bread eyes
August 13th, 2007, 11:05 PM
Some would call this a troll post.
I'm not trying to **** someone off.
angryfirelord
August 16th, 2007, 12:26 AM
What about all those open source Linux drivers and all those open standards? They should be able port those drivers and understand those standards.
Because Linux drivers are not the same as BSD drivers. You can't simply take the source code and compile it on any kernel you choose.
Seriously, last time I tested it it was extremely slow and scalability test confirm this too (and those were the defaults).
If you want a BSD with speed, use FreeBSD. OpenBSD concentrates on security and it does a damn good job of it.
I'm not trying to **** someone off.
Then please present facts, not short ranting opinions.
bread eyes
August 16th, 2007, 05:42 AM
Because Linux drivers are not the same as BSD drivers. You can't simply take the source code and compile it on any kernel you choose.
I never said you could.
If you want a BSD with speed, use FreeBSD. OpenBSD concentrates on security and it does a damn good job of it.
Not from a practical perspective.
Then please present facts, not short ranting opinions.
It's not worth it for me to run a test suite just to prove a silly point so this is the best you're getting from me: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ (It's pretty old).
mips
August 16th, 2007, 09:46 AM
(It's pretty old).
Yes it's old.
I think you are trolling. Each BSD or Linux distro has a niche, for OpenBSD it is security and that is their #1 priority.
What about all those open source Linux drivers and all those open standards? They should be able port those drivers and understand those standards.
There are also license issues I suppose.
_simon_
August 16th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Maybe you need to try a different BSD? I tried PC-BSD and would have stuck with it was it not for the fact I couldn't get my sound card to work.
It was extremely fast at everything it did and I'll probably give it a try again sometime.
kellemes
August 16th, 2007, 12:38 PM
It's not worth it for me to run a test suite just to prove a silly point so this is the best you're getting from me: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ (It's pretty old).
And this is the difference between someone really able/willing to prove his point, and a troll!
I just don't understand why moderaters in this forum don't lock threads like this..
Bachstelze
August 16th, 2007, 01:25 PM
I just don't understand why moderaters in this forum don't lock threads like this..
Once again, feel free to report it. If I do it myself, it will cause too much trouble.
mips
August 16th, 2007, 02:01 PM
And this is the difference between someone really able/willing to prove his point, and a troll!
I just don't understand why moderaters in this forum don't lock threads like this..
Once again, feel free to report it. If I do it myself, it will cause too much trouble.
HymnToLife is doing the right thing here. As staff he is involved in the thread and it could be seen that he is partial in his decision regarding the thread.
Best would be to report it so another mod or staff member can look at it.
Edit: I went and clicked the report button and asked staff to look at the thread.
kellemes
August 16th, 2007, 02:13 PM
HymnToLife is doing the right thing here. As staff he is involved in the thread and it could be seen that he is partial in his decision regarding the thread.
Best would be to report it so another mod or staff member can look at it.
Edit: I went and clicked the report button and asked staff to look at the thread.
So did I..
I didn't realize HymnToLife's position.. now I do..
frodon
August 16th, 2007, 02:25 PM
It's not worth it for me to run a test suite just to prove a silly point so this is the best you're getting from me: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ (It's pretty old).Then i guess you understand why i close this thread.
Thread closed, thanks to all of you who reported this thread.
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