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bread eyes
July 31st, 2007, 11:15 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity

edit: I mean the notability tag not the article

init1
July 31st, 2007, 11:36 PM
I agree. I thought the article was very well written and accurate.

bread eyes
August 1st, 2007, 12:01 AM
I agree. I thought the article was very well written and accurate.

It's not that it just seem kinda weird considering it's part of gnome.

starcraft.man
August 1st, 2007, 02:15 AM
It's not that it just seem kinda weird considering it's part of gnome.

Uh, I don't get it either. How much more notable do you have to get than being the default Window Manager for GNOME desktops included in the most widely used distro (to my knowledge) Ubuntu as well as others mainstream distros. Article certainly seems to cite and be written well to me. Should someone spell it out for them?

I noticed Wikipedia is getting a bit trigger happy with deletions, I don't like it... it also seems a few of them are biased in doing so.

fyllekajan
August 1st, 2007, 02:22 AM
it also seems a few of them are biased in doing so.
isn't this a problem almost everywhere on the net?

starcraft.man
August 1st, 2007, 02:47 AM
isn't this a problem almost everywhere on the net?

The rest of the web doesn't pass itself off as a free, multilingual, quality encyclopedia (with the presumption of impartiality). I think it's pretty clear if you go to any other site like one labelled Vista or Ubuntu that there is an inherent bias. You don't open or browse an encyclopedia expecting a slant of any sort.

bread eyes
August 1st, 2007, 03:33 AM
I noticed Wikipedia is getting a bit trigger happy with deletions, I don't like it... it also seems a few of them are biased in doing so.

I'd be fine with that if there was a good reason but considering user are allowed to write epics on their user pages and the fact that Wikipedia isn't even that big it can't be because of size.

jfinkels
August 1st, 2007, 03:35 AM
[...]Wikipedia isn't even that big[...]

?

What do you consider big?

EDIT: btw here are the Wikipedia Notability guidelines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

There is a HUGE Wikipedian subculture, and it exists beyond the clicking power of most standard users.

bread eyes
August 1st, 2007, 03:57 AM
?

What do you consider big?

EDIT: btw here are the Wikipedia Notability guidelines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

There is a HUGE Wikipedian subculture, and it exists beyond the clicking power of most standard users.

I mean as in GB. Take a look a this: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20070716/ . The articles are a mere 2.7 GB of .xml.bz2 .

chewearn
August 1st, 2007, 04:01 AM
I suggest clicking on the "discussion" link. You will see what they are arguing about.

bread eyes
August 1st, 2007, 04:02 AM
I suggest clicking on the "discussion" link. You will see where the arguments are all about.

I did.

Nekiruhs
August 1st, 2007, 04:02 AM
I mean as in GB. Take a look a this: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20070716/ . The articles are a mere 2.7 GB of .xml.bz2 .


These dumps can be *very* large, uncompressing up to 100 times the archive download size. Suitable for archival and statistical use, most mirror sites won't want or need this.
Not large eh? The file is ~3GB, 3GB * 100 = 300GB! Not big?

bread eyes
August 1st, 2007, 04:13 AM
Not large eh? The file is ~3GB, 3GB * 100 = 300GB! Not big?

I don't think they put all the info on every server, I think its more like ~60GB.

bread eyes
August 1st, 2007, 04:22 AM
Do they keep deleted articles in their archives?

fyllekajan
August 1st, 2007, 10:13 AM
The rest of the web doesn't pass itself off as a free, multilingual, quality encyclopedia (with the presumption of impartiality). I think it's pretty clear if you go to any other site like one labelled Vista or Ubuntu that there is an inherent bias. You don't open or browse an encyclopedia expecting a slant of any sort.

I'm not so sure about not expecting that. There's hidden bias, power structures and especially trigger happiness everywhere.. but yes it is a problem when it comes to wikipedia.. even respected news channels over here are using it as source these days. That said, not being a metacity user I couldn't care less about this article.