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smoker
July 13th, 2007, 12:16 PM
seems the Swedes are fastest when it comes to the internet, and this old lady has the fastest connection of all:)
A 75 year old woman from Karlstad (http://www.thelocal.se/search.php?keywordSearch=Karlstad) in central Sweden has been thrust into the IT history books - with the world's fastest internet connection.
Sigbritt Löthberg's home has been supplied with a blistering 40 Gigabits per second connection, many thousands of times faster than the average residential link and the first time ever that a home user has experienced such a high speed.
http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/
lisati
July 13th, 2007, 12:19 PM
seems the Swedes are fastest when it comes to the internet, and this old lady has the fastest connection of all:)
http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/
I wish other ISPs would take note.
enopepsoo
July 13th, 2007, 12:22 PM
tell me about it.
why do we all have modems that are about as fast as the ones that were out in 1998? because telecoms are all run by *** Inappropriate Language Removed By Staff ***
PartisanEntity
July 13th, 2007, 12:23 PM
I understand that this was just a demonstration, but can a network operator maintain these speeds with an increasing number of customers? For example can you have 300,000 subscribers with even 5 Gigabits each? And how much will it cost, can they have it at €60/month?
smoker
July 13th, 2007, 12:33 PM
although it was a demonstration, the technology is there:
"As a network owner we're trying to persuade internet operators to invest in faster connections. And Peter Löthberg wanted to show how you can build a low price, high capacity line over long distances," he told The Local.
i think it means network owners have to invest though, instead of relying on older and older technology to get them by. in the long run it will have to happen anyway, sooner or later.
Extreme Coder
July 13th, 2007, 12:45 PM
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
People talking about 5 GigaByte conneections, while I can only get 10 KiloByte :'(
Just why is this happening to me? :'(
BTW, I read this at the end of the article:
"The most difficult part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC," said Jonsson.
LOL :D
lisati
July 13th, 2007, 01:02 PM
although it was a demonstration, the technology is there:
i think it means network owners have to invest though, instead of relying on older and older technology to get them by. in the long run it will have to happen anyway, sooner or later.
A while back I had a chance to look in on our local telco's switching office. The model number on the switching gear was remarkably similar to one they were using 20 years ago!
lisati
July 13th, 2007, 01:03 PM
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
People talking about 5 GigaByte conneections, while I can only get 10 KiloByte :'(
Just why is this happening to me? :'(
BTW, I read this at the end of the article:
LOL :D
On a good day I get somewhat more than 10Kb/sec, but not if I exceed my monthly gigabye limit! It seems to vary according to loading.....
M$LOL
July 13th, 2007, 01:07 PM
seems the Swedes are fastest when it comes to the internet, and this old lady has the fastest connection of all:)
http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/
O_O
Paul820
July 13th, 2007, 01:46 PM
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
People talking about 5 GigaByte conneections, while I can only get 10 KiloByte :'(
Just why is this happening to me? :'(
BTW, I read this at the end of the article:
LOL :D
10Kb/Sec, wow, that is slow, i thought mine was slow at 120Kb/Sec, I would be pulling my hair out. Telecom companies can't be bothered investing in faster speeds. As long as they are getting our money why upgrade the lines. They know we are going to pay no matter what, the internet is just too good not to have it. Granted, BT has got to 8Mb download now here in the UK but that's only if your line can take it and if you're close enough to an exchange. Sickening really.
[h2o]
July 13th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Didn't know broadband was that depressing in the rest of the world. I think almost all of Sweden can have a few Mbps by now.
Feeling quite happy for my 10/10Mbps connection for ~20€ (~28 USD) per month. But that is a special offer for students, so it's a bit better than average prices.
~LoKe
July 13th, 2007, 02:11 PM
So? She may have the Internet power to download an HD-DVD movie (20 GB) in 2 seconds, but can her hard drive write that fast? The simply answer: no. She'd need one of these (http://www.3par.com/products/inservmodels.html). And if she could afford it, she's just have someone buy her HD-DVD movies for her.
xpod
July 13th, 2007, 02:16 PM
10Kb/Sec, wow, that is slow, i thought mine was slow at 120Kb/Sec, I would be pulling my hair out. Telecom companies can't be bothered investing in faster speeds. As long as they are getting our money why upgrade the lines. They know we are going to pay no matter what, the internet is just too good not to have it. Granted, BT has got to 8Mb download now here in the UK but that's only if your line can take it and if you're close enough to an exchange. Sickening really.
You can get up to 24Mb with BE and 20Mb with Virgin Media here in the uk.....:)
zach12
July 13th, 2007, 02:22 PM
wow!!!
Vorian
July 13th, 2007, 02:26 PM
"The most difficult part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC," said Jonsson.
LOL
snobby500
July 13th, 2007, 02:32 PM
can you imagine how fast websites would load :shock:
~LoKe
July 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
can you imagine how fast websites would load :shock:
Depends on what the server offers. No faster than a...say...5mbit connection.
snobby500
July 13th, 2007, 02:37 PM
ah well.. :( lol
xpod
July 13th, 2007, 03:01 PM
can you imagine how fast websites would load
We went from a 4Mb connection to a 10Mb...and now the so-called 20Mb, but theres no real difference with openng pages now to what their was previously on the 4 Mb.Not unless you want to get your atomic stop watches out anyway:)
Hell theres not really too much difference between the 1Mb connection we have and the main one when it comes to "page opening".
Downloading.....well thats a different matter,as long we`re actually getting somehting close to the advertised speed in the first place that is.The term "up to" is usually hidden in the small print somewhere:)
Unless i signed up to some newsgroup or stuck to virgin mirrors though i would never see those kinds of speed downloading either,very rarely anyway.
Apparently theres rumour of 50Mb by the end of the year.That`ll be fun considering the troubles VM are having just supplying the new 20MB.The fact that they introduced traffic shaping round about the same time speaks for itself i think.
Pointless speeds
zgornel
July 13th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I have 100Mb here and it's all I need :P (4Mb home). Also, I consider this piece of news a publicity stunt or a farse. Either he (Peter Löthberg) installed the boradband because he wanted to use it (I doubt that) or because he wanted to show that it is possible to install +1Gb to normal users.
~LoKe
July 13th, 2007, 03:44 PM
I have 100Mb here and it's all I need :P (4Mb home). Also, I consider this piece of news a publicity stunt or a farse. Either he (Peter Löthberg) installed the boradband because he wanted to use it (I doubt that) or because he wanted to show that it is possible to install +1Gb to normal users.
Did you even read the article? The whole point was to show that it could be done, and it's not that difficult.
zgornel
July 13th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Did you even read the article? The whole point was to show that it could be done, and it's not that difficult.
I have already read 3 different articles on the subject and it is getting annoying. Why did they not mount the 40 gigabits to a firm or a to school or something? They had to mount at a granny 's house. Please tell me you see the irony behind it all.
jgrabham
July 13th, 2007, 04:20 PM
You can get up to 24Mb with BE and 20Mb with Virgin Media here in the uk.....:)
Unless you live in Durham where nobodys figured out that cable exists yet :]
xfile087
July 13th, 2007, 04:26 PM
You can get up to 24Mb with BE and 20Mb with Virgin Media here in the uk.....:)
I wish! I'm with Virgin and supposed to be on 20MB already but i'm lucky to get 10MB!!!
~LoKe
July 13th, 2007, 04:26 PM
I have already read 3 different articles on the subject and it is getting annoying. Why did they not mount the 40 gigabits to a firm or a to school or something? They had to mount at a granny 's house. Please tell me you see the irony behind it all.
She is the mother of Swedish internet legend Peter Löthberg
It was an inhouse experiment with some backing my Cisco. There's no way in hell any college or university, let alone law firm, would allow someone to test something like that on a network as intricate as theirs.
mips
July 13th, 2007, 04:27 PM
10Gb = 10,737,418,240 bits
8 bits per byte
10,737,418,240 / 8 = 1,342,177,280 GB
4x 1,342,177,280 GB = 5,368,709,120 GB
This person would have required 4x 10Gb/s LAN cards in her pc to get to 40Gb/s. 40Gb/s translates into 5Giga Bytes per second..
Show me a a desktop PC that can handle such pci bus speeds and write to HD at that speed and I'll eat my shorts.
So my question is how did they get to 40Gb/s ???
Routers and switches can do that just fine ove FO cable but I dont buy a Desktop PC getting close to those figures. 64bit PCI @ 66MHz only gives about 512MB/s, PCI-E 64bit @ 133MHz gives you 1GB/s but those are only used by gfx cards and still not close.
mips
July 13th, 2007, 04:33 PM
It was an inhouse experiment with some backing my Cisco. There's no way in hell any college or university, let alone law firm, would allow someone to test something like that on a network as intricate as theirs.
It's really not rocket science and can be easily done with minimal if any risk.
~LoKe
July 13th, 2007, 05:48 PM
It's really not rocket science and can be easily done with minimal if any risk.
So you're trying to tell me converting an entire university to Fiber Optic wouldn't be difficult or risky? Let's not forget expensive. o_O
mips
July 13th, 2007, 06:11 PM
So you're trying to tell me converting an entire university to Fiber Optic wouldn't be difficult or risky? Let's not forget expensive. o_O
Hmm, people seem to have a different idea as to what happens in reality. In most cases your PC never even sees a FO cable. The FO cable terminates on a router or switch. From the router or switch your local LAN distributes via copper cable. Yes you could use FO for this but it makes no sense from a maintenance or cost perspective.
Rigging FO between a Telco/ISP and a business, university or streetbox is very easy.
I think the media is to blame for 'incorrect reporting'. No one (or few) have FO plugged into their PC and never will have. FO is a very good transport medium up to a point. If we use the medias analogy of FO then we all use FO. My ADSL copper line terminates on a DSLAM in the telco exchange, this DSLAM connect to the ATM switch via copper or FO. The ATM switch connects via FO to the SDH (Sonet for US) transmission network that is interconnected via FO rings. My traffic goes to the ISP via FO and out again via FO to anywhere in the country or internationally via submarine FO cables. So effectively we all use FO.
xpod
July 13th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Unless you live in Durham where nobodys figured out that cable exists yet :]
Mabeys it`s just cable that has`nt figured out that Durham exists yet:wink:
I wish! I'm with Virgin and supposed to be on 20MB already but i'm lucky to get 10MB!!!
You too eh.
The 20Mb roll out has`nt been as smooth as i think they expected eh.
As long as your not checking your speeds via places like speedtest.net then get on the phone to them....
Retentions are always ready to hear from you:lolflag:
[h2o]
July 14th, 2007, 11:12 PM
I have already read 3 different articles on the subject and it is getting annoying. Why did they not mount the 40 gigabits to a firm or a to school or something? They had to mount at a granny 's house. Please tell me you see the irony behind it all.
Because 40 Gbit/s is not enormous for a univeristy, but it is for a single citizen. As noted, it was a publicity stunt and proof of concept. I assure you that if a company or university in Sweden needed 40Gbit/s and could pay for it, they could get it.
Could not find any numbers for my university, but I wouldnotbe surprised if bandwidth were close to that,,,
H.E. Pennypacker
July 15th, 2007, 04:38 AM
So? She may have the Internet power to download an HD-DVD movie (20 GB) in 2 seconds, but can her hard drive write that fast? The simply answer: no. She'd need one of these. And if she could afford it, she's just have someone buy her HD-DVD movies for her.
Can you please go into the technical aspects of why a normal harddrive could not handle those speeds? I realize there's some sort of a limitation, but then again, I've never had 40GB/s. If I can download 100MB to my hard drive per second, I wonder why 40GB should be unrealistic, as long as the processor and RAM can take up the extra work.
It seems difficult to understand (in my mind), but hard drives should not have a writing limitation. I say this, because we can all create files at an instant, and not notice anything. Of course, 40GB/s is a lot different, but still.
Because 40 Gbit/s is not enormous for a univeristy, but it is for a single citizen. As noted, it was a publicity stunt and proof of concept. I assure you that if a company or university in Sweden needed 40Gbit/s and could pay for it, they could get it.
You can not get 40GB anywhere today, so why would it not be a lot for them? It would be enormous, and none of us know what 40GB/s is like, including those universities. By the way, I am talking about a single computer, not all computers at the university.
panther_sn
July 15th, 2007, 05:27 AM
"The most difficult part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC," said Jonsson.
Ummm has any1 thought of finding her and sending her a copy of Ubuntu
mips
July 15th, 2007, 12:55 PM
Can you please go into the technical aspects of why a normal harddrive could not handle those speeds? I realize there's some sort of a limitation, but then again, I've never had 40GB/s. If I can download 100MB to my hard drive per second, I wonder why 40GB should be unrealistic, as long as the processor and RAM can take up the extra work.
It seems difficult to understand (in my mind), but hard drives should not have a writing limitation. I say this, because we can all create files at an instant, and not notice anything. Of course, 40GB/s is a lot different, but still.
See post#26.
As for your HD I think you are confusing megabits(Mb) with megabytes(MB). There are 8bits in a byte.
Can your HD handle 5Gigabytes per second ? I think not.
mips
July 15th, 2007, 12:57 PM
People,
There is a difference between megabits(Mb) & megabytes(MB). Keep this in mind before replying.
Rovdjur
July 15th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Hmmm, maybe I should go home and drop a line to her.
Maybe she'll let me borrow her connection!
Btw, can a standard computer even record info at that speed?
mips
July 15th, 2007, 01:06 PM
;3020232']Because 40 Gbit/s is not enormous for a univeristy, but it is for a single citizen. As noted, it was a publicity stunt and proof of concept. I assure you that if a company or university in Sweden needed 40Gbit/s and could pay for it, they could get it.
Could not find any numbers for my university, but I wouldnotbe surprised if bandwidth were close to that,,,
Utter nonsense!
The only people that will have 40Gb/s connections are telcos and some ISPs. I don't even think the Internet 2 backbone has links greater than 10GB/s but I could be wrong on this.
Do you have any idea how much 40Gb/s is ? Do you realise that If 10 companies wanted a gauranteed 40Gb/s links the backbone would have to cater for 400Gb/s if there is no contention involved.
Getting 40Gb/s between a few places is not that hard but you won't get it to where ever you want and when you could get it it will cost a small fortune. I could set you up a 40Gb/s connection (up to 720Gb/s switched or 160Gb/s routed) tomorrow if you gave me enough money but I dunno what you are going to do with it seeing you will hit bottleneck as soon as you get off that 40Gb/s circuit.
mips
July 15th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Btw, can a standard computer even record info at that speed?
See post#26
reyfer
July 21st, 2007, 04:46 PM
She is a latecomer to the information superhighway, but 75-year-old Sigbritt Lothberg is now cruising the Internet with a dizzying speed. Lothberg's 40 gigabits-per-second fiber-optic connection in Karlstad is believed to be the fastest residential uplink in the world, Karlstad city officials said. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070719/ap_on_hi_te/sweden_high_speed_internet)
smartboyathome
July 21st, 2007, 05:06 PM
Already been posted about. Search the forum.
reyfer
July 21st, 2007, 05:10 PM
Already been posted about. Search the forum.
I did, nothing came up, so I posted. Please link to the post?
smartboyathome
July 21st, 2007, 05:15 PM
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=499911&highlight=fastest
reyfer
July 21st, 2007, 05:19 PM
More proof that the search function and the "similar threads" function are not working right :(
smartboyathome
July 21st, 2007, 05:21 PM
I just used the advanced search functin to find what I am looking for.
XDevHald
July 21st, 2007, 10:19 PM
The exact link was posted on talk.iwebtool.com and many other forums. It's a spam.
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