GoogleNet

[RAV TUX]

This is just hypothetical.....July 15th comes we can't access any of our favorite sites because they haven't paid outrageous royalty fees to Comcast and Verizon.

Google loses ad revenue funds and decides enough is enough and buys out Verizon and Comcast, returns the Internet to it's former glory.

The only catch is that instead of paying Verizon or Comcast for Internet we pay Google for GoogleNet.

Not a bad a scenario

[bread eyes]

Rav Tux, you're nuts, just nuts. :lol:

[FuturePilot]

That whole thing about the end of Net Neutrality is a bad scenario. July 15 might also be the day Internet Radio dies. It looks like July 15 may be a dark day for the internet. What's going to happen to this site!? http://ubuntuforums.org/images/icons/icon11.gif

[RAV TUX]

Rav Tux, you're nuts, just nuts. :lol:

Thank You.;)


That whole thing about the end of Net Neutrality is a bad scenario. July 15 might also be the day Internet Radio dies. It looks like July 15 may be a dark day for the internet. What's going to happen to this site!? http://ubuntuforums.org/images/icons/icon11.gif

They will have to pay premium royalty fees.

The bigger question is restrictions to downloading Linux distro ISO's.

The only one who will profit from this change is Apple with iTunes and Windows by making Linux inaccesible to the majority of people.

[FuturePilot]

The bigger question is restrictions to downloading Linux distro ISO's.


Oh no! *Panic* Quick grab as many distros as you can before the 15th!
I love trying out distros, what am I to do!?
What's going to happen with our updates?

[RAV TUX]

Oh no! *Panic* Quick grab as many distros as you can before the 15th!
I love trying out distros, what am I to do!?
What's going to happen with our updates?

I hope I am mistaken and am over reacting to all this, I guess we will have to find cheap places to buy our distro CD/DVD's from?

Ubuntu ships CD's free, so they are covered along as people can access their site.

[bonzodog]

um...what??

This site is hosted on Canonical's servers in London in the UK. It has *nothing* to do with the US any more, apart from the fact the ubuntugeek is an American. They cannot shut off access to the the EU servers in the states -- that would be almost an act of war, and the EU sure as hell is not going to pay the US telcos any money as they have no need to, or any obligation to. Get over yourselves, people. The Internet !=United States.

There is a massive amount of the web in Europe, Russia, and Asia, and the US cannot do *anything* to them. If the US ISP shuts off access because they think that the EU owes them some sort of royalty fees, then you complain to ICANN directly.

The EU would not be best pleased at the US telcos blocking access, and may even decide to cut the transatlantic pipeline, or something even more drastic, denying the US access to anything else on the planet for the entire internet. The US would be forced to develop it's own cut off internet, that cannot talk to europe, and ICANN would be made powerless.

trust me, none of this will happen-- it would be very bad business, and cause major ruptions all the way to the white house and beyond, the telcos will just add a small surcharge to your BB bills, to cover any royalties, knowing that there is no way of claiming them from Europe.

Why do you think the Russian MP3 sites stayed up so long? The US could not touch them, and had to rely on the Russians themselves to do something about it.

[beefcurry]

someone has seen too many movies. And yeah the world is bigger then the US :), I'll like to see the US try do somthing about the internet in China ;P

[Darkcloud]

can someone post the link that has information to what this thread is about? I'm clueless :confused:

[ageilers]

Sad commentary on the money hungry greed of USA and power hungry conglomerates.
http://www.savenetradio.org/ (http://www.savenetradio.org/)

[Wiebelhaus]

what in the world are you people talking about? please enlighten me.

[Adamant1988]

um...what??

This site is hosted on Canonical's servers in London in the UK. It has *nothing* to do with the US any more, apart from the fact the ubuntugeek is an American. They cannot shut off access to the the EU servers in the states -- that would be almost an act of war, and the EU sure as hell is not going to pay the US telcos any money as they have no need to, or any obligation to. Get over yourselves, people. The Internet !=United States.

There is a massive amount of the web in Europe, Russia, and Asia, and the US cannot do *anything* to them. If the US ISP shuts off access because they think that the EU owes them some sort of royalty fees, then you complain to ICANN directly.

The EU would not be best pleased at the US telcos blocking access, and may even decide to cut the transatlantic pipeline, or something even more drastic, denying the US access to anything else on the planet for the entire internet. The US would be forced to develop it's own cut off internet, that cannot talk to europe, and ICANN would be made powerless.

trust me, none of this will happen-- it would be very bad business, and cause major ruptions all the way to the white house and beyond, the telcos will just add a small surcharge to your BB bills, to cover any royalties, knowing that there is no way of claiming them from Europe.

Why do you think the Russian MP3 sites stayed up so long? The US could not touch them, and had to rely on the Russians themselves to do something about it.

The idea that has people so up in arms is that certain TYPES OF CONTENT will receive priority over other types of content, speeding certain services up while others become delayed. The user could also end up being charged for this. However, people have seriously taken this out of context for all that I can see.

I won't go back into explaining the way I see things, because the Linux community FUD-wagon is too well constructed for me to ever convince people to actually look at a problem before assuming XblogPoster is correct.

[Darkcloud]

that link was about Internet Radio Where is it that Comcast and Versizon come into this and about downloading being at stake?

[Ebuntor]

what in the world are you people talking about? please enlighten me.

I was wondering the same. What's this all about? :confused:

[amadeus266]

Guys, go back and read the first post very slowly. Am I the only one who noticed the word "hypothetical"? The government and big business have been trying to this for years. I really don't think they will fully succeed now.

[RAV TUX]

This is just hypothetical.....

hypothetical...being the key word. GoogleNet is hypothetical, the end of Net Neutrality is not.

To put it in a nutshell this is about the end of Net Neutrality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html

Net Neutrality is set to end this July 15th 2007

Frequently Asked Questions

What is this about? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#about)
What is Network Neutrality? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#what)
Who wants to get rid of Net Neutrality? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#who)
Is Net Neutrality a new regulation? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#new)
Isn't the threat to net neutrality just hypothetical? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#threat)
Isn't this just a battle between giant corporations? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#giant)
What else are the phone and cable companies not telling the truth about? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#lies)
What's at stake if we lose Net Neutrality? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#stake)
What's happening in Congress? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#congress)
Who's part of the SavetheInternet.com Coalition? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#coalition)
Who else supports Net Neutrality? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#support)
What can I do to help? (http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#help)

[RAV TUX]

um...what??

This site is hosted on Canonical's servers in London in the UK. It has *nothing* to do with the US any more, apart from the fact the ubuntugeek is an American. They cannot shut off access to the the EU servers in the states -- that would be almost an act of war, and the EU sure as hell is not going to pay the US telcos any money as they have no need to, or any obligation to. Get over yourselves, people. The Internet !=United States.

There is a massive amount of the web in Europe, Russia, and Asia, and the US cannot do *anything* to them. If the US ISP shuts off access because they think that the EU owes them some sort of royalty fees, then you complain to ICANN directly.

The EU would not be best pleased at the US telcos blocking access, and may even decide to cut the transatlantic pipeline, or something even more drastic, denying the US access to anything else on the planet for the entire internet. The US would be forced to develop it's own cut off internet, that cannot talk to europe, and ICANN would be made powerless.

trust me, none of this will happen-- it would be very bad business, and cause major ruptions all the way to the white house and beyond, the telcos will just add a small surcharge to your BB bills, to cover any royalties, knowing that there is no way of claiming them from Europe.

Why do you think the Russian MP3 sites stayed up so long? The US could not touch them, and had to rely on the Russians themselves to do something about it.

Bonzodog, here is where you are wrong Canonical, Ubuntu and the Russians would be powerless.

This will happen on July 15th 2007, it has already been decided. Unless we the people can act fast to make things not change.

If you live in the USA contact your congressman, and Representative.




What's at stake if we lose Net Neutrality?
The consequences of a world without Net Neutrality would be devastating. Innovation would be stifled, competition limited, and access to information restricted. Consumer choice and the free market would be sacrificed to the interests of a few corporate executives.
On the Internet, consumers are in ultimate control — deciding between content, applications and services available anywhere, no matter who owns the network. There's no middleman. But without Net Neutrality, the Internet will look more like cable TV. Network owners will decide which channels, content and applications are available; consumers will have to choose from their menu.
The free and open Internet brings with it the revolutionary possibility that any Internet site could have the reach of a TV or radio station. The loss of Net Neutrality would end this unparalleled opportunity for freedom of expression.
The Internet has always been driven by innovation. Web sites and services succeeded or failed on their own merit. Without Net Neutrality, decisions now made collectively by millions of users will be made in corporate boardrooms. The choice we face now is whether we can choose the content and services we want, or whether the broadband barons will choose for us.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq#stake