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mig5
June 16th, 2007, 05:34 PM
I just did this for a laugh and didn't expect it to work. I went to microsoft.com using IE4Linux ( http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page ) and tried to download Windows Defender, on Xubuntu. Of course, I was asked to do the Genuine Advantage test. I used the alternate authentication method (although IE4Linux does support ActiveX, which is used in the normal authentication method, if lower security settings are used), downloaded and then ran the genuine advantage application (which took quite a while to start). It gave me a code that I pasted into the authentication box, and to my surprise it verified me and forwarded me to the download page. This just goes to show how rubbish they're validation software is. I thought it was funny though, so I've uploaded a recording of it to rapid share, which you can get here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/37580147/recording.ogg
(the file is about 10MB, so it might take a while to get)

Alternatively you can watch it on:

YouTube - http://youtube.com/watch?v=OfwC1XAy3Sc (courtesy of darkmaguss (http://youtube.com/user/darkmaguss))
Blip.tv (Various Formats) - http://blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows559.flv

Whise
June 16th, 2007, 05:42 PM
lol , if microsoft knows about this they will sue wine for shure

iceportal
June 16th, 2007, 08:05 PM
Nah. If they couldn't sue them years ago, they can't sue them now. Wine has done nothing wrong. Actually, if Microsoft wants to retaliate, they should retaliate against themselves for putting out a BS authentication system.

Ripfox
June 16th, 2007, 08:08 PM
Oh my freakin god this is funny...:p

BarfBag
June 16th, 2007, 08:09 PM
The Windows validation is a joke.

EdThaSlayer
June 16th, 2007, 08:18 PM
Lol. Wine seems to be able to do a *lot* of things. :P

smoker
June 16th, 2007, 08:21 PM
sometimes, even if you try and use windows update, they accuse your os as being 'apple' lol
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/09/friendly_fire_virtual_pc/

:-)

Spr0k3t
June 16th, 2007, 08:33 PM
although it has been done... I still love it that it's so easy to circumvent their "OGA".

mig5
June 16th, 2007, 08:55 PM
sometimes, even if you try and use windows update, they accuse your os as being 'apple' lol
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/09/friendly_fire_virtual_pc/

:-)


Thanks for the link. It seems Microsoft are fine with Ubuntu being genuine, but mac obviously isn't making the grade =p .

neoflight
June 18th, 2007, 01:44 AM
really funny.....:)

this ended up in slashdot (http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/06/18/0037223.shtml) ....

bmorency
June 18th, 2007, 02:04 AM
sometimes, even if you try and use windows update, they accuse your os as being 'apple' lol
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/09/friendly_fire_virtual_pc/

:-)


I have experienced that error myself, I was formating a computer the one day and I reinstalled windows ME. when I ran windows update I got that error. I refreshed the page a few times and it recognized windows again.

mmccune
June 18th, 2007, 02:04 AM
I saw this on Slashdot also. I downloaded Windows Defender last week for a client and the active X validation worked with IE6 in Crossover Office. :o

I guess I have a genuine copy of Ubuntu. :D

ToonArmy
June 18th, 2007, 02:20 AM
I guess I have a genuine copy of Ubuntu. :D

I sure hope mine is genuine, wouldn't want the suits arriving...

PatrickMay16
June 18th, 2007, 02:35 AM
Heh! Heh! This thread is on slashdot.

Extreme DANNIS.

darundal
June 18th, 2007, 02:38 AM
I just hope that Microsoft doesn't actually come after anyone using Ubuntu for licensing fees (HAHAHAH!). On a more serious note, anyone here concerned that this could be, possibly, a sign that there is some file in Wine that is directly copied from a Windows install?

SickTwist
June 18th, 2007, 02:46 AM
I just did this for a laugh and didn't expect it to work. I went to microsoft.com using IE4Linux ( http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page ) and tried to download Windows Defender, on Xubuntu. Of course, I was asked to do the Genuine Advantage test. I used the alternate authentication method (IE4Linux doesn't support Active X), downloaded and then ran the genuine advantage application (which took quite a while to start). It gave me a code that I pasted into the authentication box, and to my surprise it verified me and forwarded me to the download page. This just goes to show how rubbish they're validation software is. I thought it was funny though, so I've uploaded a recording of it to rapid share, which you can get here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/37580147/recording.ogg
(the file is about 10MB, so it might take a while to get)

What program did you use to create the screencast?

SoulinEther
June 18th, 2007, 02:49 AM
I just hope that Microsoft doesn't actually come after anyone using Ubuntu for licensing fees (HAHAHAH!). On a more serious note, anyone here concerned that this could be, possibly, a sign that there is some file in Wine that is directly copied from a Windows install?

Your first comment: That actually could be a serious threat to Microsoft. "Don't own a valid Windows? Just get Ubuntu. Guard against viruses on your illegal software!" :O lol that is kind of funny.

Second one: I don't think they used anything from Windows.

Feba
June 18th, 2007, 02:55 AM
First of all, LMFAO.

Second of all, I believe WINE is all clean room style reverse engineering, which is also what ReactOS uses. Since the code is set to of course never require WGA, the windows EXE might read it as being certified. Of course, it's far more likely that MS has really ****** coding.

macogw
June 18th, 2007, 02:55 AM
My dad's valid Windows computer goes "I'm pirated!" thanks to WGA. The pirated one never did that :) The pirated-Windows box now runs Ubuntu though...might have to switch to XFCE though....P2 + GNOME = eehhh

sa87
June 18th, 2007, 03:02 AM
I reinstalled windows ME.

... must resist urge to say something

Onyros
June 18th, 2007, 03:04 AM
What program did you use to create the screencast?Probably "recordmydesktop".

If you want that with a GUI, --> apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop <-- ;)

Pretty funny stuff, mate :D

angrykeyboarder
June 18th, 2007, 03:05 AM
Well (as of this writing) I have to say I'm impressed with ubuntuforums.org's web server.

I figure it might have been killed by the Slashdot effect (http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/18/0037223&from=rss). But then maybe it's just too early (http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/18/0037223&from=rss)....

Motoxrdude
June 18th, 2007, 03:17 AM
Wow. I actually 'lol'ed.

Funzo22
June 18th, 2007, 03:41 AM
hmm I tried this recently without any luck, WGA refused to validate me, but then I just copied some files over from my windows pc and from a recent WGA CRACK and I got it to pass. I remember back about a year ago when WGA was newer, when it would validate anything, on an invalid pc all you had to do was set it to compatibility mode, and on wine you didnt need to do anything.


PS: I am impressed that this server is still running after slashdot, but I still definitely notice a slowdown, might be unrelated though

benanzo
June 18th, 2007, 03:41 AM
what screen capture app was that? Istanbul? didn't look like it...

macogw
June 18th, 2007, 03:54 AM
Probably "recordmydesktop".

If you want that with a GUI, --> apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop <-- ;)

Pretty funny stuff, mate :D

Uh.....have you ever actually gotten it to WORK? recordmydesktop and instanbul both fail. Istanbul crashes when you click "save" and recordmydesktop...I think the files were unplayable

benanzo
June 18th, 2007, 03:58 AM
Istanbul is horribly inefficient, but it has worked for me. I use recordmydesktop on the CLI or xvidcap. I had no idea that recordmydesktop had a GUI.

parsim
June 18th, 2007, 04:16 AM
A few months ago I had a Titanic struggle getting WGA to recognize my legally purchased copy of Windows XP as legit. To think I could have done it via Ubuntu...

Yet another thing Linux does better than Windows... download Windows updates. :)

darundal
June 18th, 2007, 04:20 AM
Your first comment: That actually could be a serious threat to Microsoft. "Don't own a valid Windows? Just get Ubuntu. Guard against viruses on your illegal software!" :O lol that is kind of funny.

Second one: I don't think they used anything from Windows.

Yeah, they reverse engineer it. However, ReactOS (a project to create an entire free operating system that uses the Windows API, and code from Wine, with a certain amount of code-sharing between projects) went through a major code audit because of allegations that it contained actual code taken from Windows. What I was saying is what if that had happened with Wine. However, in the Slashdot thread, there was a much better and more plausible theory put forth; WGA, if it can't find all the information it wants, is designed to err on the side of caution and just give a valid code signifying a genuine Windows install.

irish_flu
June 18th, 2007, 04:29 AM
PS: I am impressed that this server is still running after slashdot, but I still definitely notice a slowdown, might be unrelated though

No kidding! The ubuntuforums server is still rocking....

madmetal
June 18th, 2007, 04:42 AM
thats why mark denies patent deals with microsoft.. ubuntu is a genuine one ;)
great work :D

kiddyfurby
June 18th, 2007, 05:17 AM
these guys are downloading via Ubuntu?
Give them what they want, otherwise they will switch to Ubuntu and never come back!

motang
June 18th, 2007, 05:18 AM
That is just way too funny, way to go! :-D

HermanAB
June 18th, 2007, 05:47 AM
and certified by Microsoft as a Genuine Advantage. Who woulda thunk it...

joe.turion64x2
June 18th, 2007, 06:17 AM
Priceless video!

whistle
June 18th, 2007, 06:27 AM
I would have lol'ed if it wasn't past midnight... hilarious!

joe.turion64x2
June 18th, 2007, 06:43 AM
I only recall a funnier video: Windows 98 launch, that BSOD shown in Bill Gate's nose was awesome!

vertigo1980
June 18th, 2007, 06:49 AM
i just tried running the exe with the latest release of wine (and the repo version), and i get this:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/399/wgasy8.png

and this in the terminal:


fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT (30000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option 7 STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_DATA_RECEIVE_TIMEOUT (30000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not supported on protocol 1
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not supported on protocol 1
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option 70 STUB
fixme:msxml:DllCanUnloadNow


wine is set to XP. anyone know what's up?

Kodfish
June 18th, 2007, 07:24 AM
Gosh, this reminds me... I got a genuine activation with plain ol' firefox, I was downloading DirectX 9 for me Win2K experiment, and then i realized i had just skipped the genuine activation somehow.

Crazy Microsoft!

talishte
June 18th, 2007, 07:35 AM
I try to put the video in youtube.com and I get this message

"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.":(

iceportal
June 18th, 2007, 07:35 AM
Hmm... this has been dugg. Vote for it?

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Validates_as_Genuine_Microsoft_Software

bobbocanfly
June 18th, 2007, 08:07 AM
Didnt expect that to get on Slashdot, just added it for a laugh :p

Not the first time its been done, someone blogged about it before. Forgotten the link but its at my blog past about it : http://bobbosgb.blogspot.com

RKBA
June 18th, 2007, 09:11 AM
ROFLMAO! :lol: Can't wait to try this myself. The video is now also online at:

http://911hoax.net/Misc/Genuine_Windows_on_Ubuntu.ogg

vertigo1980
June 18th, 2007, 09:34 AM
is anyone else able to reproduce it?

i tried it on two different systems and repo/latest versions of wine (with winecfg set to 98, 2000 and XP). also tried on cedega, still nothing but this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2865464&postcount=38).

talrasha
June 18th, 2007, 09:52 AM
lol. I also got same experience with Microsoft security being hacked or bypassed by Ubuntu:
In my WinXP I setup one of my folder to be inaccessible by anyone but when I LAN it with my Ubuntu machine I can access and modify the files on the fly. How sick being inside windows... :D

tito13kfm
June 18th, 2007, 09:53 AM
/. and digg within 8 hours of each other. This is how a server should stand up to a load.

Loved the video, Microsoft proves once again that anti-piracy efforts are futile.

vrmartin2
June 18th, 2007, 10:25 AM
Good job! But I don't know why you say that IE4Linux does not support Active X. Active X is precisely why I use IE4Linux. I had a web site that required IE and I wanted to run it from Linux, so I installed IE4Linux, edited my security settings to allow Active X and I was on my way.

:popcorn:

adityakavoor
June 18th, 2007, 10:33 AM
really funny dude :D

NRG88
June 18th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Now... if only M$ had payed it's Genuine Advantage costumers... :lolflag:

warpigs2
June 18th, 2007, 10:58 AM
Good finding. BUT i dont get it, why does anybody wants to use windows defender:(, given the very fact that Microsoft's products are known for shoddy security!!! Why not use your time to do something else?

beefcurry
June 18th, 2007, 11:21 AM
viva wine :)

Circus-Killer
June 18th, 2007, 11:24 AM
if they cant protect their own assets, how can you expect them to protect yours? :D

seanUSXIII
June 18th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Wow, this is the funniest thing I've seen in a while...

:popcorn:
Whats next?

Rambo Tribble
June 18th, 2007, 02:07 PM
This just demonstrates Microsoft's commitment to interoperability with Linux. Bill and Steve are reaching out . . .

darundal
June 18th, 2007, 02:21 PM
What terms of use would those be?

Rambo Tribble
June 18th, 2007, 02:43 PM
Don't be silly, Microsoft only has one set of terms: "You use it, we own you."

MaindotC
June 18th, 2007, 02:52 PM
Amazing how Microsoft made those threats of patent infringements to open-source developers but that was conveniently swept under the rug...

3rdalbum
June 18th, 2007, 03:17 PM
I once visited the Windows Update website on Ubuntu Dapper (via IEs4Linux IE 6) and was told that there were 35 updates for my operating system (apparantly, Windows 2000), plus 2 critical updates. I have a screenshot too if I'm not believed :-)

seanUSXIII
June 18th, 2007, 03:32 PM
Would someone mind e-mailing me that vid as an attachment? My work's proxy blocks rapidshare and I've got dial-up at home.

EDIT:
Received the file.

Thanks,
Sean

bobbocanfly
June 18th, 2007, 03:53 PM
Good finding. BUT i dont get it, why does anybody wants to use windows defender:(, given the very fact that Microsoft's products are known for shoddy security!!! Why not use your time to do something else?

Its not so much important for the average linux user but the people that cant get their valid copy of Windows to authorize. This would mean they can access the updates they rightly deserve using a LiveCD with wine preinstalled (Bound to be one out there)

newbie2
June 18th, 2007, 05:19 PM
hey mig5 .... you are also on arstechnica :popcorn:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2007/06/18/ubuntu-now-even-more-windows-user-friendly

it.henrik
June 18th, 2007, 06:08 PM
I love windows .. when it does things like this *hugs m$*

jabapyth13
June 18th, 2007, 06:54 PM
I got verified too :D
--running kubuntu feisty fawn

vexorian
June 18th, 2007, 07:35 PM
I find this terribly insulting, how dare MS to consider ubuntu to be genuine windows! I want retailiation!

bobbocanfly
June 18th, 2007, 09:16 PM
LOL! This is also on Wikipedia now, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage#False_negative_rate

joe.turion64x2
June 18th, 2007, 10:00 PM
My Fedora Core 6 box got verified too (and could download IE 7).

icechen1
June 18th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Just tried it and it worked...

atria
June 19th, 2007, 04:46 AM
Indeed it does work, weird stuff indeed !_!

joe.turion64x2
June 19th, 2007, 04:53 AM
Tux must have been offended with such comparison :)

dandaman32
June 19th, 2007, 05:15 AM
Wow, if only my DNS propagated as fast as this story. You made /., Digg, Ars, and Wikipedia in what, 18 hours tops?

pgn674
June 19th, 2007, 05:33 AM
I got the Genuine Office Validation Component to validate my Ubuntu Feisty install, using much the same method. I just went to Office Update, then went to download something from the Office Download Catalog when I got a generic "this isn't going to work" page, because I don't have ActiveX.

The Genuine Office Validation Component is OGCheck.exe, while the Genuine Windows Validation Component is GenuineCheck.exe. The Windows file is over twice the size of the Office one.

And on a side note, pressing Open in the download box did nothing for me. I had to click Save, choose a location, click Save, then click Open.

mig5
June 19th, 2007, 04:39 PM
OK, firstly I just want to say that I'm amazed by the response that this has had. Thanks to the people who have posted this on slashdot, wikipedia, digg, etc. It's all come as quite a shock, I've just come online and read 8 pages of responses.
Anyway, quite a few people have been asking what I used to record this. I used a Kommander script called reKordmydesktop. It's a simple front end for recordMyDesktop, like gtk recordMyDesktop (which I could never get to work). You can get it here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=55760 . Obviously you will need recordMyDesktop and Kommander to run it.

Also, to anyone who wants to use my recording, feel free to do so. All I ask is that you link back to this forum thread if you post it on a site that allows you to do so.

Finally, someone who posted said they used ActiveX in IE4Linux. If you see this message can you explain to me (or link me to a HowTo) how you got this to work, as every time I try to use a page that has ActiveX content I get a message saying that my security settings don't allow it. Even after tweaking with the security settings, (ie: allowing ActiveX) I'm stuck with the problem.

necenzurat
June 19th, 2007, 05:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkUQIdIQ_cY

The movie....

Windows (LINUX - Ubuntu) Genu(W)ine Advantage

bobbocanfly
June 19th, 2007, 05:34 PM
There are at least 5 copies of the video on youTube (Or at least there were 5 when i checked this morning, you know what youTube is like).

Google "Ubuntu Linux = Genuine Windows" and you get almost 1 million results.

So funny :D

vexorian
June 19th, 2007, 06:36 PM
noticed it is an outstanding advert for ubuntu? aha

earobinson
June 19th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Wow just found this on /. Greatest thing ever!

yay
June 19th, 2007, 11:39 PM
This is what I get, when I try to do the same:

http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osteste2yq7.png

It's Portuguese and says that I'm not runnig a Windows OS, so It will not give me a code :\

Have they corrected it yet?:p

h0m3r
June 20th, 2007, 12:54 AM
Stream:
Original Ogg Theora:
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows179.ogg
AVI MPEG4:
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows360.avi
MP4 H264:
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows690.mp4
FLV (LQ):
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows231.flv
FLV (HQ):
http://blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows559.flv

Download:
Original Ogg Theora:
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/get/H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows179.ogg
AVI MPEG4:
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/get/H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows360.avi
MP4 H264:
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/get/H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows690.mp4
FLV (LQ):
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/get/H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows231.flv
FLV (HQ):
http://chuso.blip.tv/file/get/H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows559.flv

vertigo1980
June 20th, 2007, 02:56 AM
This is what I get, when I try to do the same:

http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osteste2yq7.png

It's Portuguese and says that I'm not runnig a Windows OS, so It will not give me a code :\

Have they corrected it yet?:p

that's what i get too, and i tried it about an hour after this thread was posted, so it's not because of microsoft.

Medieval_Creations
June 20th, 2007, 03:05 AM
This is hilarious...

dimis2410
June 20th, 2007, 11:44 AM
i think that is more sick the fact that a Linux user uses Microsoft IE than Microsoft's stupidity

dptxp
June 20th, 2007, 11:50 AM
A few months ago Microsoft thought that Linux uses some of their codes. Today they believe that Ubuntu is their product. After a few months they will validate any OS as theirs :p

They have really started believing that all codes belong to Microsoft.

mig5
June 20th, 2007, 01:28 PM
Here's another video for those of you who are trying to do this aswell. It appears that the genuine advantage program only works if you use the 'open' function directly from IE4Linux. Watch the video, as it shows this clearly.
Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/38309166/only_open_thru_IE.ogg.html
Also, thanks to the guy who uploaded the video in lots of different streams and formats. I'm going to add a link to them on the first post, as they are better quality than youtube.


i think that is more sick the fact that a Linux user uses Microsoft IE than Microsoft's stupidity
Lol, I don't use IE for normal browsing. I use it for the 1% of websites that don't work correctly in Firefox.

LaRoza
June 20th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Lol, I don't use IE for normal browsing. I use it for the 1% of websites that don't work correctly in Firefox.

What sites are those? I am involved in Web design and would like to see what problems can occur.

mig5
June 20th, 2007, 02:01 PM
http://grades.capella.edu/ for example.

LaRoza
June 20th, 2007, 02:14 PM
Thanks, I am trying to find a way around that with Firefox or Opera right now.

LaRoza
June 20th, 2007, 02:15 PM
Got it, using IE Tab extension on Firefox.

frup
June 20th, 2007, 02:20 PM
Using IE tab uses IE... You'd be better off using this:
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/

insane_alien
June 20th, 2007, 02:42 PM
thanks for the link to the user agent switcher

works good

mig5
June 20th, 2007, 03:33 PM
Thanks for the link to the user agent switch, I'm using it aswell now. Like someone said, the IE tab uses Internet Explorer, so I'd need to be in Windows to use it.
Also, I've just found out that ActiveX Controls do work in IE4Linux, my security settings weren't right before. I just did the genuine advantage test using the ActiveX method and it validates me as genuine.

joe.turion64x2
June 20th, 2007, 03:41 PM
Fedora 7 passes the WGA as well. Here is another example of a webpage that cannot be browsed without IE: http://www.megared.com.mx

smoker
June 20th, 2007, 03:48 PM
According to our analysis, 42% of the people who experienced problems with WGA and reported those problems to Microsoft's public forums during that period were actually running Genuine Microsoft Windows. That's not just our opinion, either. Those statistics were reported by the Redmond-approved Microsoft Genuine Advantage Diagnostic utility.

In our research, we discovered that two Microsoft employees have publicly and repeatedly acknowledged that a particular type of WGA false positive is "coming up more commonly now." We found a widely used security tool from McAfee that triggered WGA failures on perfectly legitimate systems. And we read dozens of reports from frustrated Windows users whose systems are running legally licensed copies of Windows XP but who are blocked from receiving security updates via Windows Update and who are blocked from installing premium Microsoft downloads such as Internet Explorer 7 because the WGA tool mistakenly identified their Windows installations as counterfeit.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=142

amazing how you need to install linux to get microsoft to verify your os as genuine!:D

joe.turion64x2
June 20th, 2007, 03:51 PM
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=142
Interesting...

king0lag
June 20th, 2007, 05:17 PM
The other day I was at the gas station and this piece of gum stuck to my tire got WGA validation.



True story.

seanUSXIII
June 20th, 2007, 05:20 PM
The other day I was at the gas station and this piece of gum stuck to my tire got WGA validation.



True story.

HAHA

Good one... :D

cylent
June 20th, 2007, 05:37 PM
mig5,

what program did you use to do the screen capture?

DarkN00b
June 20th, 2007, 06:14 PM
I did this back in February (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2251934#post2251934). I thought everyone knew this. My mistake was in not documenting it.

Excellent thread mig5. Stupid Microsoft. http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Films_et_TV/starwars-lol.gif

mig5
June 20th, 2007, 07:19 PM
mig5,

what program did you use to do the screen capture?


I used a Kommander script called reKordmydesktop. It's a simple front end for recordMyDesktop, like gtk recordMyDesktop (which I could never get to work). You can get it here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show...?content=55760 (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=55760) . Obviously you will need recordMyDesktop and Kommander to run it. You can get recordMyDesktop and Kommander in Synaptic and the above link should explain how to run reKordmydesktop.

vertigo1980
June 20th, 2007, 09:55 PM
mig5, how did you get activex enabled in IEs4linux? i lowered the security settings and set activex to "allow" in that section, and it still tells me that my security settings do not allow activex.

yay
June 20th, 2007, 10:30 PM
What sites are those? I am involved in Web design and would like to see what problems can occur.

This one doesn't work at all:

http://www.silkroadonline.net


Web page of Silkroad Online is optimized under below condition.
Windows Operation Systems ( Microsoft Windows 9X/Me/NT/2000/XP/2003 )
Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 and above.



I still can't validate it.

joe.turion64x2
June 21st, 2007, 01:30 AM
I still can't validate it.
You won't be able to receive major updates :D (or anyone at all).

Joe.

Dr. C
June 21st, 2007, 03:07 AM
Fedora 7 passes the WGA as well. Here is another example of a webpage that cannot be browsed without IE: http://www.megared.com.mx

There is a User Agent Switcher for Firefox that allows you to choose the information you wish to send to a site. Just tell the obsolete Mexican site that you are running IE 6 on Win32 and Firefox on Ubuntu will work just fine.

Now validating Ubuntu as "Genuine Windows" well :rolleyes:.

pdspatrick
June 21st, 2007, 03:18 AM
Here comes the ubiquitous AYB reference...

Well....i guess we can say that "All your code are belong to microsoft"

Somehow I'm not suprised....I've been screwing around with it lately and I see that if it finds the files actually required for it to run (interface elements, networking, etc...), but it cannot determine some of the other files (*cough* WINE *cough*) it will call it valid, just to save the "customer" some hassle...

There goes M$ assuming that we're all n00bs....

Feba
June 21st, 2007, 05:28 AM
The thing is, that idea still doesn't explain why a lot of legit Windows users fail WGA.

MonkeyBoy
June 21st, 2007, 07:46 AM
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7995/ubuntuto7.gif

mig5
June 21st, 2007, 08:02 AM
mig5, how did you get activex enabled in IEs4linux? i lowered the security settings and set activex to "allow" in that section, and it still tells me that my security settings do not allow activex.

That's exactly what I did and that's why I didn't think it worked to start with. Turns out that you have to set security settings to low for internet zone.

mig5
June 21st, 2007, 05:39 PM
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7995/ubuntuto7.gif

http://i14.tinypic.com/6btg7qx.gif

No doubt millions of Windows users are getting that message on login right now...

joe.turion64x2
June 21st, 2007, 05:59 PM
Now doubt millions of Windows users are getting that message on login right now...
There should be another dialog saying: This OS is no longer secure, you have to upgrade now:
Button 1: Get Linux (default, recommended); Button 2: Get Windows Vista (disabled).

iansoutar
June 21st, 2007, 11:04 PM
An even simpler "no brainer" way to download Windows Defender on Ubuntu ...

1/ Install Automatix from their website
2/ Install the demo version of crossover office.
3/ install IE
4/ go to the Microsoft Defender home page and get it.

Fun stuff ... but not that useful!

Ian

skuark
June 23rd, 2007, 12:36 AM
I don't know if someone have tested it with Firefox on Ubuntu Feisty but it also works.

http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazodownloaddetaieb3.png

MaindotC
June 25th, 2007, 07:10 PM
MiG5 I just heard about you on TWiT :) Good job and congrats!

Uncle Gates
June 29th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Is this really the windows I once loved. Its like a woman, you see their true color once you leave them.:D

ranimbo
June 30th, 2007, 05:37 PM
May be you shoul try this repository too.....

deb http://archive.microsoft.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse

:D:D

Ptero-4
July 4th, 2007, 02:46 AM
http://grades.capella.edu/ for example.
Konqueror with its user agent thingie set to IE6/WinXP gets past the IE-only screen.

Also I just tried the trick using the ActiveX method (it works, just set the internet zone to low security) and it validated my relative's kubuntu dapper as genuine ******* and I have the screenshot to prove it.

Varanger
July 4th, 2007, 05:35 AM
I think I've arrived to the party a litle to late... I can't "validate" my Ubuntu box.... :(

But I am doing something wrong:

My ubuntu box:
- Feisty Fawn
- Wine 0.9.40

Which wine version are you using???



Varanger

mig5
July 4th, 2007, 02:20 PM
Also I just tried the trick using the ActiveX method (it works, just set the internet zone to low security) and it validated my relative's kubuntu dapper as genuine ******* and I have the screenshot to prove it.

I've just found out that ActiveX Controls do work in IE4Linux, my security settings weren't right before. I just did the genuine advantage test using the ActiveX method and it validates me as genuine.
Yeah i worked out the internet zone low security setting thing a little while afterwards. The problem is that all the posts on slashdot, digg, etc say that IE4Linux doesn't do ActiveX because that's what I put in my original post (so yeah, its my fault that everyone now thinks that it is non ActiveX, sorry :().


Which wine version are you using???

I'm using version 0.9.33. Are you using the IEs4Linux? I couldn't validate in firefox, although other people have. You can get the IEs4Linux here: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

sameer.iitg
August 5th, 2007, 04:46 PM
The original Windows validation post is quite funny... hehe :lolflag:

J-Chrome
August 26th, 2007, 09:27 PM
lmao windows sucks that just proves it....who wants a sucky and costing OS

muithi
September 19th, 2007, 10:07 AM
am going to try it r8 now...n' I'll be telling ma classmates to try it out too.

karellen
September 19th, 2007, 12:05 PM
I just did this for a laugh and didn't expect it to work. I went to microsoft.com using IE4Linux ( http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page ) and tried to download Windows Defender, on Xubuntu. Of course, I was asked to do the Genuine Advantage test. I used the alternate authentication method (although IE4Linux does support ActiveX, which is used in the normal authentication method, if lower security settings are used), downloaded and then ran the genuine advantage application (which took quite a while to start). It gave me a code that I pasted into the authentication box, and to my surprise it verified me and forwarded me to the download page. This just goes to show how rubbish they're validation software is. I thought it was funny though, so I've uploaded a recording of it to rapid share, which you can get here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/37580147/recording.ogg
(the file is about 10MB, so it might take a while to get)

Alternatively you can watch it on:

YouTube - http://youtube.com/watch?v=OfwC1XAy3Sc (courtesy of darkmaguss (http://youtube.com/user/darkmaguss))
Blip.tv (Various Formats) - http://blip.tv/file/273561?filename=H0m3r-ValidatingUbuntuAsGenuineWindows559.flv

:lolflag:
yes, top class software security provided by microsoft...:!:

ingis
September 19th, 2007, 12:50 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

it's really fun. And 98 percent of user run such software... It's not fun at all...

RageOfOrder
September 19th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Well, my Sabayon installation gets passed the IEonly screen with Konqueror, but the validation tool doesn't work for me. :(

pmoseley
September 23rd, 2007, 08:49 PM
lol that's pathetic! Microsoft needs to sort themselves out... quickly....

Look at what happened with Vista... that's already been permenantly hacked.

Coyote21
September 27th, 2007, 09:01 PM
And thinking that I have to download 1 cd with Windows, when I've could done it in Linux... OMFG
:popcorn:

Can it install the games that need validation? (That's important, who cares about Windows Defender, if M$ can't even recognize an genuine version of windows... Or is it just Ubuntu an Genuine Windows? :shock:)

kr0n05 I I
September 27th, 2007, 09:44 PM
And ironically it can't validate it's own damn operating system. :lolflag:

adityakavoor
October 2nd, 2007, 05:06 PM
i gave it a try .. here's my video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0dRQ_bATUk

enjoy :popcorn:

ljonesj
October 2nd, 2007, 07:50 PM
ohm my my my that is funny but the thing is i think it is only validating the web browser no the os but wierd

Can+~
October 21st, 2007, 07:04 PM
I always felt that microsoft has more lawyers than programmers.

-grubby
October 21st, 2007, 07:09 PM
do they have monkeys working there website....oh, I'm sorry that offends the monkeys

vertexoflife
October 24th, 2007, 04:29 PM
lol. This is hilarious.

Bungo Pony
October 24th, 2007, 06:35 PM
Didn't work for me when I tried it. The verification software said I didn't have the right OS :)

mig5
October 24th, 2007, 07:44 PM
Didn't work for me when I tried it. The verification software said I didn't have the right OS :)

MS might have done something to stop people being able to do it by now, this news travelled quite far.

The_PhAnT0m
November 8th, 2007, 11:54 PM
LOL! This is great. Windows is so secure and I just downloaded IE and now Ubuntu is a genuine Microsoft product. I sense a conspiracy! :)

Humph
November 9th, 2007, 12:55 AM
Thought I'd give it a go too:

Installed ie4linux, went to download Windows Defender, and got whined at for wrong ActiveX settings. Added "*.microsoft.com/*" to trusted sites and refreshed page. Two seconds later I was at Windows Defender download page.

You'd have thought they'd have done something about this by now, wouldn't you?

Edit: And I've been validated with Genuine Microsoft Office too, despite only having OpenOffice installed. Shame none of the "premium" downloads are worth having :/

Jammy4041
November 29th, 2007, 02:13 PM
Just goes and shows you if you run IE you are windows genuine. Even if you dont have windows LOL

de_valentin
November 29th, 2007, 02:19 PM
Makes me wonder if this guy might actually be on to something :lolflag:

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43

Linuxratty
November 29th, 2007, 02:41 PM
Lol. Wine seems to be able to do a *lot* of things. :P


I wonder if you could watch these?
http://video.discovery.com/

de_valentin
November 29th, 2007, 02:56 PM
apparantly not from this region

prodigalson666
November 30th, 2007, 12:37 AM
fantastic! nice job ,man.

deepank
December 14th, 2007, 06:20 AM
This must be really embarassing for MS. Its funny:lolflag:

yron87
December 24th, 2007, 07:54 AM
and they (MS) were saying that their OS is secured? patches from time to time...security updates.... whoah now authenticating other OS? So cool aren't they? hehehhe

Andiez
December 24th, 2007, 08:07 AM
I wonder why it passes Linux but not Mac

Promaster91
January 13th, 2008, 02:25 AM
Ha that is really funny. Stupid windows.

Lysander10
January 14th, 2008, 03:51 AM
Major kudos!

M$LOL
January 14th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Makes me wonder if this guy might actually be on to something :lolflag:

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43

Wow. Just wow. That is actually unbelievable.

weed-n-linux
January 21st, 2008, 09:26 PM
Lol :lolflag:

JCMS
January 26th, 2008, 04:29 AM
All the thing checked is if Windows is activated....

If you use an XP or Vista unactivated/biosloader/backlisted serial numbers, it will block you, and I know it from experiance.

Unlike what it might be written, it doesn't check if the OS is legit, it checks if it is not legit.

rosegarden78
January 26th, 2008, 06:25 AM
What sites are those? I am involved in Web design and would like to see what problems can occur.

Well ABC.com uses OS-sniffing to deny Linux users streaming HD video. WorldWinner.com does the same thing. I'm not sure who uses browser sniffing. Those are two we've used and come into problems with Firefox and/or Linux.

EDIT: I figured out how to get ABC.com streaming! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=679165

Blessed_Coffee
February 23rd, 2008, 12:21 AM
Makes me wonder if this guy might actually be on to something :lolflag:

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43

*favorited under ROTFLMAO*

3rdalbum
February 23rd, 2008, 01:34 AM
I once used IE in Wine to "check for updates to Windows". Surprisingly enough, the site showed me 2 updates that I could apply.

AsoSako
February 23rd, 2008, 03:10 AM
I once used IE in Wine to "check for updates to Windows". Surprisingly enough, the site showed me 2 updates that I could apply.
That's crazy. lol

WarMonkey
February 29th, 2008, 11:13 PM
Windows fails once again.

jakey123
March 6th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Hi tis is a cool idea but windows can sue wine for getting genuine windows only stuff on ubuntu linux so don't do that try a free program like real player :lolflag:

M$LOL
March 6th, 2008, 05:46 PM
What?

n00bunter
March 14th, 2008, 12:41 PM
Oh crap this really works!!!

Darkagentx
March 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM
If an emulation layer appears "Authentic", then how on earth does it combat pirated / modded versions?

How could it? It boggles the mind.

whoscheesemine
March 17th, 2008, 11:53 PM
hahahahaha, I showed this to everyone I know, good idea for a laugh

Gulyan
April 12th, 2008, 07:21 AM
all hail microsoft :lolflag:

thschiavo
July 4th, 2008, 08:37 AM
When I search for "Ubuntu Forums" in Google (can't remember the url...), this post is the second result...... 8-[

RSingh
July 4th, 2008, 10:05 AM
dang, thats hilarious.:lolflag:

Hozza
July 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM
lol micro$haft is a joke, the only reason i can see why anyone would choose micro$haft over ubuntu is that there just plain scared of the revolution - lol

:lolflag:

RATM_Owns
July 8th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Speaking of revolution...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_2B_vogUhiQ
...I like that song. xP

And ies4linux says it can't find some mfc42.cab
I see the code for it in lib/install.sh but when I go to the page, no download box shows up and when I wget the link it doesn't work either.

EDIT: And since the other links are down, do this in the terminal for the video.

sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
youtube-dl -o linuxvalidation.flv http://youtube.com/watch?v=OfwC1XAy3Sc

ClamChowder
July 19th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Well, after all, any Linux / Wine installation IS genuine, since they are free, and no license terms are broken by installing and not paying.

This is very interesting...Windows users cannot validate(http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070825-windows-genuine-advantage-suffers-worldwide-outage-problems-galore.html), but Linux users can.

LinuX-M@n1@k
July 23rd, 2008, 02:56 PM
LOLOLOLOLOL !! :lolflag:

P.S: I can't reproduce it though - my "windows" cant be recognized neither as XP nor Vista.

Edit: Or maybe I should report this as a bug to M$ ? :lolflag:

Ghuloomo
July 24th, 2008, 02:19 AM
lol , if microsoft knows about this they will sue wine for shure

What wine has to do with it? Let them fix their own software!

cardinals_fan
July 24th, 2008, 02:30 AM
lol micro$haft is a joke, the only reason i can see why anyone would choose micro$haft over ubuntu is that there just plain scared of the revolution - lol
The whole "micro$haft" thing got old back in the early nineties. Let it die.

JoneYee
July 24th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Thats is some funny stuff. Whats funnier is sometimes Windows won't validate a copy of Windows as genuine.

Glad to know that I have the Genuine Ubuntu Advantage

jnw222
July 29th, 2008, 01:56 PM
it is a joke to restrict downloading

i guess they only validate the browser and os (wine seems to use windows in the signuture)

efrens
August 14th, 2008, 06:05 AM
though I didn't get it to work anymore it still is amazing how those people from Microsoft do their stuff.

sama_j
August 14th, 2008, 07:17 AM
the whole "micro$haft" thing got old back in the early nineties. Let it die.


+1

null byte
August 14th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Funny as hell :lolflag:

So if you want genuine software, use Ubuntu, Microsoft won't care about it ;)

matrix14
September 2nd, 2008, 05:50 AM
If you use "The Real Genuine Windows" means you open your pc to be a farm of WIN32 virus experimental... so just use Ubuntu as a "Real -- Free -- & -- Genuine & More Secure -- OS"...

ashmew2
November 2nd, 2008, 06:39 AM
a farm of WIN32 virus experimental

:lolflag: Its a farm which keeps harvesting your system resources..

Yownanymous
November 2nd, 2008, 02:18 PM
I really wasn't surprised by this in all honesty. It IS Micro$oft...

anyInput
December 14th, 2008, 03:04 PM
Well, what else can we do? Windows are not perfect in terms of security and authentication.

Long live Ubuntu users!

Anyway, please help let other users understand what Ubuntu is, I am maintaining a forum that advocates info about Ubuntu and Linux OS.

Please visit,http://www.anyinput.com/forum/topic/19/operating-system---ubuntu/1

Yownanymous
December 14th, 2008, 04:31 PM
I just hope that Microsoft doesn't actually come after anyone using Ubuntu for licensing fees (HAHAHAH!). On a more serious note, anyone here concerned that this could be, possibly, a sign that there is some file in Wine that is directly copied from a Windows install?

Who cares? Microsoft suck! They deserve to be stolen from!
(Considering they pretty much stole from IBM in the first place).

MikeTheC
December 14th, 2008, 04:47 PM
WGA schooled again.

Class dismissed, I should think.