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LakeWind
June 5th, 2007, 09:30 PM
Hi All,

Well I finally took the plunge and switched from OpenSUSE 10.2 to Ubuntu
7.04. I've been using SuSE since 7.2 (pre Novell days). It was a
really hard decision to make but the last straw was when I upgraded my
computer to a new motherboard and processor (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core)
this past week. I re-installed OpenSUSE 10.2 and it didn't recognize the
integrated audio chipset or the integrated LAN. I also had some issues
with the on board video (nVidia 6100) so I bought an add on PCIe nVidia
GeForce 7300LE card. That helped with the video problems.

OpenSUSE has been a royal pain in the a** lately trying to get the zen
updater and zmd package management stuff to work!!!! I've been pulling
my hair out over the past 6 to 8 months trying and getting nowhere!
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and for no particular reason!
If one of the repositories is slow or down, watch out! What a mess.

I've been using Ubuntu on an older computer (my test machine) for about
6-8 months now playing around with it a bit. A couple months ago I
installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dad's computer (he's 76 and OpenSUSE was
just too complicated for him, again mostly because of the zmd package
management and zen updater. Plus it was slow on his older computer). He
loves Ubuntu. He told me it boots up a lot quicker now and it's just
easier to use. I also recently installed Ubuntu in a dual boot config with Win xp on
my wife's laptop (Toshiba). It recognized everything during the laptop
installation including the wifi and wide screen display without any
additional configuration on my part.

The most influential experience for me in choosing Ubuntu for my primary
production computer was when my wife and I went away for a week and took
her laptop (after Ubuntu was installed). The hotel we were staying in
had GuestWIFI. We were trying to log in to GuestWIFI using Windows XP
and were unsuccessful. I called GuestWIFI tech support and followed their
suggestions. We still couldn't get it working under Windows. I knew the
wifi card worked properly because she uses it at home with our wireless
network. I then asked if he had any config info for Linux and he stated
"We don't support Linux at all". At that point I ended the call and
re-booted the laptop into Ubuntu. After a few minutes of manually
setting up the wifi connection (using settings he had given me for
Windows) I had an internet connection. Very nice indeed! It wouldn't
work at all under Windows, but Ubuntu brought up the connection just fine.

Ubuntu is a real breath of fresh air! It installs really quickly, it
looks really nice and the updater just plain works without any fooling
around. Apt and synaptic are second to none. Granted I've been a KDE guy
for years but the funny thing is, I have always customized KDE to the
point where it was very similar to Gnome (double clicks, etc...). I was
impressed when I installed 7.04 and it immediately recognized my
integrated audio, LAN card and video for my new motherboard without a
hitch (something OpenSUSE failed to do).

I've used a lot of Linux distributions over the years starting with Red
Hat 4 (back in 1995 or 1996?). Since then I've tried many including
Debian, Mandrake, Fedora Core, SuSE / OpenSUSE and MEPIS among others.
Of all that I've tried, Ubuntu seems to be the most polished. It's the
easiest to setup and just plain use for productivity. It's also very
fast to get up and running (under an hour for me, with restricted
formats, medibuntu and drivers installed). No offense to OpenSUSE,
Novell or their developers. I enjoyed using SuSE exclusively on my
primary computer since 2001 and if the package management/updating
system wasn't so messed up, I probably wouldn't have looked for
something new. So far, I'm very glad that I did.

Keep up the great work Ubuntu Developers. I'll be here for quite some
time to come. This coming weekend I think I'll help my daughter blow
away OpenSUSE and install Ubuntu on her computer. That should take only
about an hour to get it completely up and running properly... I wonder
what else I can do with all that spare time I'll have this weekend? I'm
sure my wife will have a few ideas! ;)

Mike

goumples
June 5th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Glad to see you're happy with the transition. I took a class on SUSE Linux Enterprise, and tried open SUSE on my home p.c.... but after trying Ubuntu I've never looked back.. The Ubuntu community is exponentially more helpful that the support groups of other distros I've seen as well.

JimTDI
June 5th, 2007, 11:52 PM
It's the most exciting thing I've seen on a PC in years! Glad you made the jump, and like it!!

AllenGG
June 6th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Ooooh, that's good: (JimTDI)
Microsoft only gives you Windows... Ubuntu gives you the whole damn house!!

stmiller
June 6th, 2007, 01:15 AM
Yes apt-get is great. Other distros don't have nearly as nice a package manager, other than Gentoo perhaps.

the_darkside_986
June 6th, 2007, 03:37 AM
Congrats on the switch. I also switched from Suse to Ubuntu. Ubuntu is so much easier to use and has better hardware support on my modern PC. Also, Ubuntu 7.04 doesn't intentionally lock down attempts to install multimedia codecs with the package manager like openSUSE 10.1 did. GNU/Linux is supposed to be an OS where users have full control of their system, but this does not apply to openSUSE obviously.

SoulinEther
June 6th, 2007, 03:42 AM
I'm more impressed that you got all those people to use Linux. :O

shijirou
June 6th, 2007, 03:46 AM
Loved your experience with Ubuntu. I agree that everything is easy to setup on it. Installing less than an hour and no stumbling around looking for drivers.

Hope you get your daughter's PC to Ubuntu too and soon!

forcesofhabit
June 6th, 2007, 03:51 AM
Yeah! I'm really surprised you practically have your whole family using Linux. I am glad to hear your success story as well.

LakeWind
June 6th, 2007, 01:11 PM
I'm more impressed that you got all those people to use Linux. :O

I've been a Linux advocate for years. The last hold out in my family at this point is my sister. She's still using Windows XP but her husband is nearly there. He wants me to help him set up a dual boot system this fall, which I will gladly do. He does a lot of video editing on his XP box and doesn't want to blow Windows away completely for that reason.

My daughter is also a strong Linux advocate. In the past couple of months her high school has added (2) Linux computers to their computer lab for the students to use. Just yesterday she helped out a friend that was having trouble finding her Open Office document on one of the Linux boxes. She showed her how to find the file, how to use the internet and how to email the file to herself (at home) from the Linux box. Then she proceeded to explain why Linux is a better operating system and showed her some of the Linux equivalents of typical Windows programs. I'm so proud of her! :D

jverkamp
June 6th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Congratulations on the switch. I converted from openSUSE to Kubuntu myself and don't plan on going back, it's far easier to use. Unfortunately, I also have to leave one laptop with Windows XP for school use, but I guess life isn't be perfect. :-D

As far as the video editing: you could always suggest that he try the video editing programs on Linux. I know they still need some work, but Kino and Cinerella are supposed to be good programs.

JAPrufrock
June 7th, 2007, 05:03 AM
I love this thread. I feel warm and fuzzy all over!

mrgnash
June 7th, 2007, 05:26 AM
It's great to hear you had such a positive experience -- Ubuntu doesn't work so flawlessly for everyone, but I think it's still safe to say that you're in the majority. And yes, Ubuntu/Debian's package management is what's kept me from going too far astray (even if I end up building a lot of stuff from source/svn anyway), it's just so easy -- much easier than Windows or anything else I know of.

wolfen69
June 7th, 2007, 06:15 AM
welcome aboard!