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parradux
May 23rd, 2007, 05:42 AM
I need to buy a new laptop, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I've narrowed down my choices between the new santa rosa chipsets, these being the: d630, d830, and or T61. I'am not an avid gamer, and do like the idea of a longer battery life so an integrated graphics card is a would be a preferred choice, but I would also like to be able to run SC2 (permitting I can emulate it using cedega).

Now some vital information. I will be taking this thing to be to school every single day, along with a couple of hardcover textbooks, so I need it to be durable. I am also willing to spend up to 1800 CAD with tax.

So if you guys can help me make an informed decision on my next purchase, I would be greatful.

syxbit
May 23rd, 2007, 05:51 AM
you don't make sense
you say you want integrated gf, but want to play SC2 (which I assume is Starcraft 2)
you'll want at least a low end dedicated for that

parradux
May 23rd, 2007, 05:58 AM
The graphics card is preferred, however, it doesnt have to be integrated. The reason I wanted it was to have a longer battery life.

I've looked at some of the benchmarks of the new x3100 from Intel, and it doesnt seem that bad, thats the only reason I suggested it. How does it compare to the NVS 140 in terms of power?

mips
May 23rd, 2007, 11:41 AM
The graphics card is preferred, however, it doesnt have to be integrated. The reason I wanted it was to have a longer battery life.

I've looked at some of the benchmarks of the new x3100 from Intel, and it doesnt seem that bad, thats the only reason I suggested it. How does it compare to the NVS 140 in terms of power?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=443904

If you want "robust/durable" then get the Thinkpad, cannot beat them for durability.

The above link has some links to benchmarks. The nvs140 is much more powerfull than the x3100 although the x3100 will run most things just fine.

FRuMMaGe
May 23rd, 2007, 11:44 AM
I need to buy a new laptop, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I've narrowed down my choices between the new santa rosa chipsets, these being the: d630, d830, and or T61. I'am not an avid gamer, and do like the idea of a longer battery life so an integrated graphics card is a would be a preferred choice, but I would also like to be able to run SC2 (permitting I can emulate it using cedega).

Now some vital information. I will be taking this thing to be to school every single day, along with a couple of hardcover textbooks, so I need it to be durable. I am also willing to spend up to 1800 CAD with tax.

So if you guys can help me make an informed decision on my next purchase, I would be greatful.

If you dont mind not having windows, try and get a No-OS laptop. This generally cuts about $200 off of the price.

reidbold
May 23rd, 2007, 11:03 PM
Yo, I just got a T61. You can get one for right at 1800 cdn w/tax and shipping. First impressions are:
+amazing looking screen, no imperfections
+sturdy case
-tons of vista crap that is taking me hours to clean up

I'm just sort of assuming ubuntu will work fine :P but I haven't had a chance to try yet. So far the vista partition resizer is only giving me 40 gb of linux space out of 105 gb. Vista alone takes up 17 gb, after uninstalling a bunch of stuff.

mips
May 24th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Yo, I just got a T61.

Did you get the one with the Intel X3100 or nVidia NV140 GFX ???

Could you please provide some LINUX benchmark figures on the gfx if you get a chance, especially if it is the X3100.

Overall impression once you have Ubuntu installed ould also be nice.

maniacmusician
May 24th, 2007, 03:21 PM
Did you get the one with the Intel X3100 or nVidia NV140 GFX ???

Could you please provide some LINUX benchmark figures on the gfx if you get a chance, especially if it is the X3100.

Overall impression once you have Ubuntu installed ould also be nice.
+1000

reidbold
May 24th, 2007, 08:47 PM
Went with the nvs. I tried two livecd's, 6.04 installed, but no networking (hard or wireless). 7.04 crashes with that

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
(initramfs) _

error. So I installed gentoo instead. :p With the 2007.0 cd hard networking works. I'm having problems getting x running, ah fun with gentoo.

The beta nvidia drivers don't seem to support my card yet :(

gus6464
May 26th, 2007, 03:41 AM
You should have gone with the X3100 graphics and intel wireless card. The dell wireless cards come with broadcom chipsets which are harder to set up. The NVS 140 isnt that greater of a performer than the X3100. Plus intel has new drivers coming out in june for the X3100 that will enable new features and better speed.

reidbold
May 26th, 2007, 05:28 AM
I got the intel n wireless.

For games, the x3100 will be a slouch, and produce much worse visuals in comparison nvs.

About the yet to come drivers, yes the will actually have vertex shading, a first for intel! nvidia has had this for years. I'll stick with the proven guns this time.. Perhaps time will prove me wrong.

RAV TUX
May 26th, 2007, 05:48 AM
I need to buy a new laptop, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I've narrowed down my choices between the new santa rosa chipsets, these being the: d630, d830, and or T61. I'am not an avid gamer, and do like the idea of a longer battery life so an integrated graphics card is a would be a preferred choice, but I would also like to be able to run SC2 (permitting I can emulate it using cedega).

Now some vital information. I will be taking this thing to be to school every single day, along with a couple of hardcover textbooks, so I need it to be durable. I am also willing to spend up to 1800 CAD with tax.

So if you guys can help me make an informed decision on my next purchase, I would be greatful.
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parradux
May 26th, 2007, 08:34 PM
Whats the consensus on wither the x3100 will be able to handle any upcoming games on mediocre graphic settings? I'm liking the 1+ battery hour increase with the x3100 rather then with the NVS 140.

If the x3100 wont be able to handle anything, i'd get the nvs 140 and just buy another battery later if I really need it.

reidbold
May 27th, 2007, 03:07 AM
For me, battery life was less important than graphics, so I went with the nvs. It was also $150 cheaper, so it made the decision easier. But also, the x3100 could prove to be faster, some day.



So I got 7.04 running! I had to set the SATA to a compatibility setting in the bios. Also a correction, the beta drivers to support my card, I was looking at the wrong drivers.