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Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:08 PM
It really was nice being involved with the Ubuntu community and Ubuntu was really fun too.

But man, some issue just put the o/s to a stop.

So, bye bye! :D See ya all in about 1 to 2 years' time.


Lucifiel
P.S. Yeah, if I'd time, I'd try another distro but ... oh well.

DoctorMO
May 22nd, 2007, 05:09 PM
don't quite sure I know what you mean Lucifiel

Adamant1988
May 22nd, 2007, 05:16 PM
It really was nice being involved with the Ubuntu community and Ubuntu was really fun too.

But man, some issue just put the o/s to a stop.

So, bye bye! :D See ya all in about 1 to 2 years' time.


Lucifiel
P.S. Yeah, if I'd time, I'd try another distro but ... oh well.

Hey, you have to use what works. Always.

Remember: Windows is fairly secure if you practice safe browsing (no porn sites) and downloading (that 135.8 kb movie isn't actually a movie) you should be fine. Keep your bloat to a minimum too :D

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:23 PM
Hey, you have to use what works. Always.

Remember: Windows is fairly secure if you practice safe browsing (no porn sites) and downloading (that 135.8 kb movie isn't actually a movie) you should be fine. Keep your bloat to a minimum too :D

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LOL porn?! lol... sorry that just makes me want to laugh. :p

I'm a straight female and not interested in other females. :)

Yep, you're 100% right about the secure stuff, though, that was one of the reasons why I jumped over to Ubuntu. :p

Yeah... still, why do I feel the force of Ubuntu pulling me back? ;___; No, more importantly, I wonder if I can ever stop being addicted to ubuntuforums.org >>;;

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:24 PM
don't quite sure I know what you mean Lucifiel

Oh, I'm leaving Ubuntu for now. That's all I meant. :)

Praill
May 22nd, 2007, 05:27 PM
Oh, I'm leaving Ubuntu for now. That's all I meant. :)

What are the issues you cant get over?

misfitpierce
May 22nd, 2007, 05:29 PM
farewell :(

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:30 PM
What are the issues you cant get over?

Some nasty font issue whereby purging fontconfig ,resetting xorg.conf, placing font.conf files in root folder and so on, didn't work. In short, it's game over, man.

dca
May 22nd, 2007, 05:31 PM
You know, honestly, what are the alternatives??? Really.

I work for an enterprise that asolutely will not migrate to Windows Vista so we're stuck ordering Dell equipment for our workstations & laptops because they're still shipping w/ XPSP2.

On a pay for play kinda' thing, I would rather drop $80 for SLED10 or whatever for the new RHEL5 or no money for Ubuntu than drop $99+ for the Vista Home Basic (check out what that gets you versus Home Premium, etc for $169+) OS.

Adamant1988
May 22nd, 2007, 05:33 PM
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LOL porn?! lol... sorry that just makes me want to laugh. :p

I'm a straight female and not interested in other females. :)

Yep, you're 100% right about the secure stuff, though, that was one of the reasons why I jumped over to Ubuntu. :p

Yeah... still, why do I feel the force of Ubuntu pulling me back? ;___; No, more importantly, I wonder if I can ever stop being addicted to ubuntuforums.org >>;;

Hey, I know plenty of females who watch porn, no joke :P

Also, switching back to Windows from Ubuntu requires almost as much determination as the original switch to Ubuntu. Ubuntu produces a good feeling of 'home' and gives people the warm and fuzzies, it actually emotionally effects some people to the point that they come back to Ubuntu out of guilt.. I've seen it happen.

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:33 PM
You know, honestly, what are the alternatives??? Really.

I work for an enterprise that asolutely will not migrate to Windows Vista so we're stuck ordering Dell equipment for our workstations & laptops because they're still shipping w/ XPSP2.

On a pay for play kinda' thing, I would rather drop $80 for SLED10 or whatever for the new RHEL5 or no money for Ubuntu than drop $99+ for the Vista Home Basic (check out what that gets you versus Home Premium, etc for $169+) OS.

Well, right now, I'm reading the monitor with a magnifying glass 'cos the fonts have completely like gone berserk? No such issue in WinXP though.

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:37 PM
Hey, I know plenty of females who watch porn, no joke :P

Also, switching back to Windows from Ubuntu requires almost as much determination as the original switch to Ubuntu. Ubuntu produces a good feeling of 'home' and gives people the warm and fuzzies, it actually emotionally effects some people to the point that they come back to Ubuntu out of guilt.. I've seen it happen.

Tsk.. tsk! You're incorrigible, young man! :p

Stop... don't dig the hole , dude . It's... emotional blackmail, I tell ya!

*goes into a rabid frenzy*

I'm... *gasp* getting away from you now... noooo... nooo must not be addicted to Ubuntu.

newlinux
May 22nd, 2007, 05:39 PM
I'm addicted to the forums too. I admit it. That's step one.

maniacmusician
May 22nd, 2007, 05:40 PM
Tsk.. tsk! You're incorrigible, young man! :p

Stop... don't dig the hole , dude . It's... emotional blackmail, I tell ya!

*goes into a rabid frenzy*

I'm... *gasp* getting away from you now... noooo... nooo must not be addicted to Ubuntu.
It's hard to resist Ubuntu :)

I'm sad to see you go, but it happens, I suppose. You can't blame the font issue on Ubuntu though, that one was user error :)

Anyhow, good luck in the switch back to Windows. I hope that the next time you come back, your experience will be more pleasant.

ThinkBuntu
May 22nd, 2007, 05:40 PM
Font problems? Shouldn't be too hard to fix. Most people who leave have major networking or display troubles...

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:43 PM
It's hard to resist Ubuntu :)

I'm sad to see you go, but it happens, I suppose. You can't blame the font issue on Ubuntu though, that one was user error :)

Anyhow, good luck in the switch back to Windows. I hope that the next time you come back, your experience will be more pleasant.

Yeah, it was a user issue but given that everything looks like it's melting off the screen and there don't seem to be any way I can get it fixed, save for a full reformat(that'd be 4th time within 2 months).

*sighs* Windows, huh? Oh well. :/

aktiwers
May 22nd, 2007, 05:43 PM
Sad to see you go.. :(
Say hello to MS from me.. I wont be seeing him again.. :)

Praill
May 22nd, 2007, 05:45 PM
Some nasty font issue whereby purging fontconfig ,resetting xorg.conf, placing font.conf files in root folder and so on, didn't work. In short, it's game over, man.

Hmm.. have you made sure your video drivers are installed correctly and youre using a resolution with an appropriate aspect ratio?

IE. do:

sudo glxinfo | grep direct you want direct rendering: yes

Thats really all i can offer. The only time i had font troubles was with the cruddy vesa driver.

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 05:50 PM
Hmm.. have you made sure your video drivers are installed correctly and youre using a resolution with an appropriate aspect ratio?

IE. do:

sudo glxinfo | grep direct you want direct rendering: yes

Thats really all i can offer. The only time i had font troubles was with the cruddy vesa driver.

Yes, direct rendering is enabled and I'm using the default graphic drivers(nothing special loaded), ATI is selected and screen resolution is enabled and selected properly.

Well, other strange issues include font width suddenly shrinking and expanding, etc. I've also tried replacing my entire fonts folder with the help of maniacmusician who's using Kubuntu(but it should be okay, shouldn't it)?

maniacmusician
May 22nd, 2007, 06:01 PM
Yes, direct rendering is enabled and I'm using the default graphic drivers(nothing special loaded), ATI is selected and screen resolution is enabled and selected properly.

Well, other strange issues include font width suddenly shrinking and expanding, etc. I've also tried replacing my entire fonts folder with the help of maniacmusician who's using Kubuntu(but it should be okay, shouldn't it)?
I didn't give you the Kubuntu fonts.

I gave the normal Ubuntu fonts from the Ubuntu Studio installation that I have in my virtual machine (from a while ago when I was beta testing their installation process).

Ubuntu studio should have the same fonts as normal Ubuntu.

you might have made an error in copying them over. That has to be done as root....

That means you have to start two root nautilus's (one as 'gksudo nautilus fonts:////' and one that's just a normal 'gksudo nautilus') with the non-fonts window, navigate to the fonts folder that I gave you. go inside that folder, copy all the fonts, and paste them into your fonts://// folder like that.

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 06:03 PM
I didn't give you the Kubuntu fonts.

I gave the normal Ubuntu fonts from the Ubuntu Studio installation that I have in my virtual machine (from a while ago when I was beta testing their installation process).

Ubuntu studio should have the same fonts as normal Ubuntu.

Yep yep you're right. Those were Ubuntu fonts but whatever happened, it seems the only way out is to do a full reinstall unless there's some way to rescue this o/s.

srt4play
May 22nd, 2007, 06:03 PM
Could you post a screenshot? I'm curious what a "melting screen" looks like. :)

smoker
May 22nd, 2007, 06:13 PM
hi,

if you're going to install windows, why not also reinstall ubuntu, and duel boot, that way you have the best of both world's + the joy of a vibrant community forum when you need a fix from the 'depression' too much time on windows will cause :-)

Adamant1988
May 22nd, 2007, 06:15 PM
hi,

if you're going to install windows, why not also reinstall ubuntu, and duel boot, that way you have the best of both world's + the joy of a vibrant community forum when you need a fix from the 'depression' too much time on windows will cause :-)

I still used the forum while I was on Windows XP a couple months back... too many people thing that buy ceasing to use Ubuntu you have to leave the community.

use a name
May 22nd, 2007, 06:27 PM
Yes, direct rendering is enabled and I'm using the default graphic drivers(nothing special loaded), ATI is selected and screen resolution is enabled and selected properly.

Well, other strange issues include font width suddenly shrinking and expanding, etc. I've also tried replacing my entire fonts folder with the help of maniacmusician who's using Kubuntu(but it should be okay, shouldn't it)?

Shrinking/expanding? You're not holding ctrl and touching the scroll wheel, are you?

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 06:30 PM
Well, I'm already dual-booting Windows XP with Ubuntu.

Well... if I'm not supposed to modify fonts.conf, then how am I going to read any text in Ubuntu? When I installed Ubuntu, all the text was barely readable, even with font smoothing enabled.

Lucifiel
May 22nd, 2007, 06:31 PM
Shrinking/expanding? You're not holding ctrl and touching the scroll wheel, are you?

Nope, not at all. *sighs*

It's some issue that's got me puzzled all right.

Praill
May 22nd, 2007, 06:53 PM
Only because your issues is so strange would I suggest it might be a virus.
Have you installed anything with a 3rd party script?

Text width randomly changing? Thats messed. If you have nothing to lose try the fglrx driver.

sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf device section to use fglrx instead of ati. If you want to avoid fglrx (i dont blame you) try loading the vesa driver and see if the problem persists. At least then you can narrow it down to the driver.

If the problem replicates independent of the driver X is using then I would assume it has to be a virus since this problem is so strange. Complete re-install and stick to the repos.

maniacmusician
May 22nd, 2007, 08:20 PM
Only because your issues is so strange would I suggest it might be a virus.
Have you installed anything with a 3rd party script?

Text width randomly changing? Thats messed. If you have nothing to lose try the fglrx driver.

sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf device section to use fglrx instead of ati. If you want to avoid fglrx (i dont blame you) try loading the vesa driver and see if the problem persists. At least then you can narrow it down to the driver.

If the problem replicates independent of the driver X is using then I would assume it has to be a virus since this problem is so strange. Complete re-install and stick to the repos.
I doubt that's the case. Even if she did get that working, she's having a bunch of other issues with Ubuntu, so its probably best (though not good) that she go back to XP. She said that she'll try it again in a year or so, and that. to me, is more important than her having to put up with constant errors and having Linux be a pain in the butt.

If this experience is unpleasant for her, she's just got to do what's best for her situation. I'm just hoping her next experience will be better

Lucifiel
May 23rd, 2007, 10:13 AM
And so, I just deleted my Ubuntu partition and am going to try and reinstall Ubuntu. I'm now trying to set a separate partition for /home and /. 10 gb for /home and 4 gb for / .

Reason? I went back into WindowsXP and took a couple of looks and went "no way am I going to have download and configure all those 20++ programs" just so I can use OpenOffice, Gimp, etc. and have decent search features.

I remember having to set up a ton of stuff so I could use this and that. Ugh... why did I not remember? I guess it must be 'cos when I installed ubuntu, I barely touched WinXP.

Ah well, I will carefully backtrack my thoughts and review what exactly went wrong.

But this is actually exciting, you know? I've never felt so happy fixing things before. :p

jiminycricket
May 23rd, 2007, 10:32 AM
You'll probably never leave these forums, sorry to tell you from my own personal experience! ;) They're addicting.

Lucifiel
May 23rd, 2007, 10:38 AM
You'll probably never leave these forums, sorry to tell you from my own personal experience! ;) They're addicting.

=P

It's too late.

I'll never leave Ubuntu, not even if you bury me alive. :)

anaconda
May 23rd, 2007, 10:58 AM
And so, I just deleted my Ubuntu partition and am going to try and reinstall Ubuntu. I'm now trying to set a separate partition for /home and /. 10 gb for /home and 4 gb for / .

Hmm..
4gb for / isn't very much.. You know.. almost all the programs you install go to / and 4GB can get full quite soon..

But if you really have that small hd then it might be ok..

Anyway.. WELCOME BACK!! :)

tact
May 23rd, 2007, 10:58 AM
=P

It's too late.

I'll never leave Ubuntu, not even if you bury me alive. :)

Nice you decided to stay. :) Reading the thread to this point just now I was thinking... its not really that hard to reinstall ubuntu... compared to the pain of just using XP daily... I know I'd rather do the reinstall - you still come out ahead (i.e. less pain overall).

And as you are so wisely doing - its a good time to do some repartitioning and set things up slightly better (separate partitions for root and home), according to the things you learned since you last installed.

BTW - Maybe give root (/) a bit more space? Like 6GB?

Lucifiel
May 23rd, 2007, 11:01 AM
Hmm..
4gb for / isn't very much.. You know.. almost all the programs you install go to / and 4GB can get full quite soon..

But if you really have that small hd then it might be ok..

Anyway.. WELCOME BACK!! :)

Yeah, I transferred over the contents of sda3 to hdc3.

Now, I'm going to delete sda3 and leave 20 gb for a data partition on sda, while the other 20++ gb goes towards root and home.

maniacmusician
May 23rd, 2007, 01:32 PM
Hmm..
4gb for / isn't very much.. You know.. almost all the programs you install go to / and 4GB can get full quite soon..

But if you really have that small hd then it might be ok..

Anyway.. WELCOME BACK!! :)
I have kubuntu installed on a root partition that's 20GB, but it doesn't even use 3GB of the space, even with plenty of programs installed.

Lucifiel
May 23rd, 2007, 02:03 PM
I have kubuntu installed on a root partition that's 20GB, but it doesn't even use 3GB of the space, even with plenty of programs installed.
Ah well, on the safe side, I allocated 7.81 gb to root. Right now, about 3.38 gb is used.

Huh... I no longer have the font problems but that's 'cos I didn't screw up my system by:

a) replacing xorg.conf with the version I had when the best way of making changes is to do a proper dpkg reconfigure.

b) installing mlind's patches together with changes in font.conf Of course, mlind's work is very good but I must've screwed up somewhere.

c) replacing fonts without even backing up.

d) pre-loading packages list without removing mlind's patches.

Yeah, in order to save time this round, I copied all the packages I'd downloaded into another partition and transferred them back into /var/cache/apt . No way was I gonna spend 2 hours more downloading and waiting for an installation.

Unfortunately, gnome crashed while installing my pre-loaded package list(open windows and applications, etc. not showing on taskbar and missing buttons, etc.) but when I ran
sudo dpkg --configure -a, my system carried on applying the fixes to gnome-panel. That was the clue and so after everything had done installing, I restarted X and everything was back to normal.

For a few minutes, I thought I'd to reinstall Ubuntu again.

Background music: happy turns to sad, and slightly pissed and upset. And then, back to happy Ubuntu lover.

wieman01
May 23rd, 2007, 02:08 PM
So don't tell me you're out after 543 posts in the forums... Why don't I buy that? ;-)

PriceChild
May 23rd, 2007, 02:14 PM
May be a silly question, and that you've already done it and I've missed it... but have you tried:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config

Lucifiel
May 23rd, 2007, 02:18 PM
May be a silly question, and that you've already done it and I've missed it... but have you tried:

It's okay 'cos I just reinstalled Ubuntu. And yes, I tried that and a lot of other things.

DoctorMO
May 23rd, 2007, 02:37 PM
Oh I get it! you wanted to leave ubuntu because of some font issues.

I had someone leave ubuntu because someone told them to; it crippled their tv card (no drivers for windows), they had to pay out for windows xp and it was directly connected to the net and got viri. rather stupid to let peer pressure do that sort of thing to you. oh well not my computer.

Chilli Bob
May 23rd, 2007, 02:39 PM
Shrinking/expanding? You're not holding ctrl and touching the scroll wheel, are you?

DUDE!!!! That is SO cool!! :D I didn't know about that. One day I really am going to have to RTFM!

Barrius
May 23rd, 2007, 02:42 PM
Lucifel - I simply liked your avatar ... sorry to see you leave.

Praill
May 24th, 2007, 01:07 PM
=P

It's too late.

I'll never leave Ubuntu, not even if you bury me alive. :)

Once youre in deep enough with linux you never leave. I had a update completely kill my sound and wireless in edgy. There was prob a simple fix but w.e i tried just seemed to break it more so finally i said "screw it im waiting for feisty".

I used XP for about a month and hated every single minute of it. When I first booted up that feisty live cd it felt like coming home after a long and ****** vacation.