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PartisanEntity
April 21st, 2007, 11:00 PM
Are there any good alternatives to Nvu? It doesn't appear in the Feisty repos anymore. (I would prefer WYSIWYG).

Thanks.

ComplexNumber
April 21st, 2007, 11:04 PM
there's an old one called amaya, but it uses the old gtk1 toolkit. wysiwyg web editors are not plentiful on linux, it seems.

dbbolton
April 21st, 2007, 11:08 PM
aptana, screem, bluefish

Happy_Man
April 21st, 2007, 11:09 PM
You always could install Nvu from source, I suppose.... ComplexNumber is right, there isn't much WYSIWYG going on in the Linux world.

Quillz
April 21st, 2007, 11:17 PM
I've been able to install Nvu very easily in Ubuntu. It's not in the repos, but I believe the official site offers a .deb package.

lotusleaf
April 21st, 2007, 11:21 PM
Are there any good alternatives to Nvu? It doesn't appear in the Feisty repos anymore. (I would prefer WYSIWYG).

Thanks.

Check out SeaMonkey (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/):

"Web-browser, advanced e-mail and newsgroup client, IRC chat client, and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application."

"The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to deliver production-quality releases of code derived from the application formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite". Whereas the main focus of the Mozilla Foundation is on Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird, our group of dedicated volunteers works to ensure that you can have "everything but the kitchen sink" — and have it stable enough for corporate use."


And visit this thread for installation info: "HOW TO install SeaMonkey" (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011)

I brought the issue of the lack of mozilla-browser, nvu, and SeaMonkey in Feisty up to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam), as I mentioned in a previous post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401133).

There's also SeaMonkey specific forums at MozillaZine.org: General (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=3) - Support (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=40)

DarkN00b
April 21st, 2007, 11:29 PM
Amaya is good if you code from scratch and don't use templates. Like NVU it sometimes doesn't render code correctly and can screw up existing code. It is the editor recommended by w3.org, and you download it from their site.

Look for it here (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/).

ComplexNumber
April 21st, 2007, 11:37 PM
Amaya is good if you code from scratch and don't use templates. Like NVU it sometimes doesn't render code correctly and can screw up existing code. It is the editor recommended by w3.org, and you download it from their site.

Look for it here (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/).
even dreamweaver does it badly ;). its not just amaya and nvu. there are no wysiwyg editors in existence on any platform that render code well. most professional web designers steer well away from wysiwyg editors and use ones such as bluefish(or their windows equivalent) etc. wysiwyg editors are mainly for novices who want to knock up a website quickly, then correct the code manually later.

DarkN00b
April 21st, 2007, 11:42 PM
even dreamweaver does it badly ;). its not just amaya and nvu. there are no wysiwyg editors in existence on any platform that render code well. most professional web designers steer well away from wysiwyg editors and use ones such as bluefish(or their windows equivalent) etc. wysiwyg editors are mainly for novices who want to knock up a website quickly, then correct the code manually later.

:lolflag:

This is why I code and save in gedit, then refresh in firefox. Same as a WYSIWYG editor, but more control. :)

PartisanEntity
April 21st, 2007, 11:46 PM
I don't need it for professional web design, which is why I need WYSIWYG :) Thanks for the tips, I have gone ahead and downloaded the .deb file from the Nvu website and installed it.

Kernel Sanders
April 21st, 2007, 11:57 PM
NVU is old and dead as far as i'm aware.

Isnt its replacement in the works though?

PartisanEntity
April 22nd, 2007, 12:02 AM
There is apparently, but it still does the job, so far it has been more than sufficient for my amateur needs.

opticyclic
April 22nd, 2007, 04:54 PM
KompoZer is a bug fix for Nvu

Bloodfen Razormaw
April 22nd, 2007, 05:10 PM
Quanta Plus. The only competitor for Dreamweaver in the Linux world, and far more powerful than Nvu.

aysiu
April 22nd, 2007, 05:11 PM
Kompozer is the new Nvu.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer will help you get it installed.

PartisanEntity
April 22nd, 2007, 05:17 PM
Kompozer is the new Nvu.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer will help you get it installed.

Great thank you aysiu!

PartisanEntity
April 22nd, 2007, 05:29 PM
How would I go about uninstalling Nvu (which I installed using a .deb file from their site)? Thank you.

oops it's in the repos, duh, how embarrassing :oops:

ComplexNumber
April 22nd, 2007, 05:52 PM
Quanta Plus. The only competitor for Dreamweaver in the Linux world, and far more powerful than Nvu.
really? i think you'll find that they are 2 different types of editors. quanta isn't even a wysiwyg editor. most people seem to prefer bluefish to quanta, even when they use kde.

Bloodfen Razormaw
April 22nd, 2007, 06:15 PM
really? i think you'll find that they are 2 different types of editors. quanta isn't even a wysiwyg editor. most people seem to prefer bluefish to quanta, even when they use kde.
Quanta is both. You can edit WYSIWYG, in code, or with the Dreamweaver-style split-screen view that combines the two.

ComplexNumber
April 22nd, 2007, 06:25 PM
Quanta is both. You can edit WYSIWYG, in code, or with the Dreamweaver-style split-screen view that combines the two.
but not in the same way that dreamweaver, amaya, and nvu are. well, anyway, nobody seems to rate it more highly than either bluefish or nvu.
i didn't like quanta at all on PCLinuxOS. kept on randomly crashing, so i didn't get very far with it.

Toadmund
April 22nd, 2007, 06:35 PM
I am trying this one out, it's new and it's called Codetch, part of Mozilla add-ons:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1002
So far so good.


Get the feel of Dreamweaver in a Firefox extension. Edit your documents right next to your web pages as you surf.

igknighted
April 23rd, 2007, 06:05 AM
but not in the same way that dreamweaver, amaya, and nvu are. well, anyway, nobody seems to rate it more highly than either bluefish or nvu.
i didn't like quanta at all on PCLinuxOS. kept on randomly crashing, so i didn't get very far with it.

Really? I got the exact opposite reviews when I was looking for a WYSIWYG editor last week... people recommended Quanta+ really highly and nvu not so much

ComplexNumber
April 23rd, 2007, 06:08 AM
Really? I got the exact opposite reviews when I was looking for a WYSIWYG editor last week... people recommended Quanta+ really highly and nvu not so much
yup, really. they must have been poor reviewers.

Herman
April 23rd, 2007, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by aysiu,

Kompozer is the new Nvu.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer will help you get it installed. Thank you very, very much aysiu, that worked for me 100% perfectly. I am very happy now!
Thanks again,
Regards, Herman :)

crhylove
April 25th, 2007, 01:12 AM
I can tell you that NVU works really well in Wine.

rhY

PartisanEntity
May 2nd, 2007, 05:39 PM
Great, looks like Kompozer died on me, when I launch it from the Applications > Programming menu nothing happens, and when I try to launch it from the terminal I get:


Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Anyone know how such an error suddenly comes about and whether it can be resolved? Kompozer was working last night without problems.

I have tried Bluefish, which I was not happy with. The only thing that comes close to a proper WYSIWYG editor is that add-on for Firefox that was mentioned in this thread.

lotusleaf
May 2nd, 2007, 10:32 PM
The only thing that comes close to a proper WYSIWYG editor is that add-on for Firefox that was mentioned in this thread.

Sigh... I thought I provided enough details in my post about SeaMonkey to help, though sometimes I have to ask:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/guacamoleburrito/s34m0nk3y.png

PartisanEntity
May 2nd, 2007, 10:42 PM
Sigh... I thought I provided enough details in my post about SeaMonkey to help, but, I wonder:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/guacamoleburrito/s34m0nk3y.png

Okay, okay. I'll try it and get back to you :)

PartisanEntity
May 2nd, 2007, 11:25 PM
Can't seem to install it, at:


sudo ./seamonkey-installer

a window without any content pops-up and that's it?

lotusleaf
May 3rd, 2007, 01:57 AM
Can't seem to install it

I found nanotube (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=66474)'s post in the "HOW TO install SeaMonkey" (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011) thread, which I linked to in my original post to this very thread, very useful, I'll quote it here:

Quote below from post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2409766&postcount=17) by nanotube (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=66474):


here's my simple two-step procedure for installing seamonkey that worked like a charm.

download seamonkey tar.gz - NOT the installer, just the tar.gz. you can get it if you go to "other systems and languages" and under linux they have the plain tar.gz option (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/)

extract the contents of the archive into /opt directory, with command:


sudo tar -C /opt -xzf seamonkey-1.1.1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz

then, all you have to do is run /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey as regular user and it is all good to go.

of course, feel free to add a shortcut to the panel or to your applications menu for extra convenience :) also feel free to substitute /usr/local instead of /opt, if you prefer. also feel free to add the path to wherever you install seamonkey to your $PATH.

i find this to be a much simpler procedure than fiddling around with the installer and permissions and stuff.

edit: and to uninstall, just delete the directory to where you extracted seamonkey - in my example, that would be /opt/seamonkey. what could possibly be simpler? ;)

PartisanEntity
May 3rd, 2007, 10:06 AM
me@ubuntunb:~$ /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey
GTK Accessibility Module initialized
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Crap, same error as with Kompozer, might be my system?

SunnyRabbiera
May 3rd, 2007, 01:23 PM
yeh it might be, Feisty seems to like segfaulting as a lot of programs on my computer wont work.
maybe a downgrade to edgy or dapper might be good.