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PartisanEntity
April 16th, 2007, 10:12 AM
If one could implant a chip into the brain and then download for example the French language, the history of China or the study of medicine, would you do it?

FoolsGold
April 16th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Uncertain (voted other).

What I do know is that if such a procedure became widespread, those of us who chose to learn things the "natural" way would be at a disadvantage. Such is the nature of rapid uptake of technology.

dbbolton
April 16th, 2007, 10:17 AM
only if it connects to Google.

Somenoob
April 16th, 2007, 10:17 AM
If there were no negative side effects, then yes I would.

FoolsGold
April 16th, 2007, 10:20 AM
Oh, and you can tell that such hardware would definitely end up having DRM embedded in it, the corporations would demand it.

"This chip will allow you to remember the works of Shakespeare for 24 hours, at which point your neural pathways will be cleared of such memory. Attempting to bypass the DRM on this hardware will result in the chip self destructing... in your brain". :)

karellen
April 16th, 2007, 10:30 AM
only if it would provide wireless broadband

TheLive1
April 16th, 2007, 10:35 AM
Sure most probably would, why not? Sounds like man taking control of it's own evolution.
Isn't our brain flowing with electrons and neurons anyway?

RAV TUX
April 16th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Who is manufacturing the chip?

More importantly what OS will interact with the chip?

igknighted
April 16th, 2007, 10:51 AM
If one could implant a chip into the brain and then download for example the French language, the history of China or the study of medicine, would you do it?

Only if it was completely FOSS so I knew EXACTLY what was going in my head.

samjh
April 16th, 2007, 11:06 AM
Only if it is:

1. Safe
2. Medical procedure is open to public scrutiny
3. The chip and technologies associated with it is completely open to public scrutiny
4. The chip and associated technologies are not in danger of breaching my privacy, or controlling my thoughts or emotions.
5. Effordable

zanglang
April 16th, 2007, 11:23 AM
If I can wirelessly lookup Wikipedia, hell yes. :D

adam.tropics
April 16th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Only if it interfaces with itunes (so I can block out the many other voices already there!)

jgrabham
April 16th, 2007, 12:09 PM
Never, I ont want a lump of silicon and nickle inside me, technologys great, when its not in you!

AHEM borg AHEM

Tux Aubrey
April 16th, 2007, 12:27 PM
I think this is already on the feature list for Gutsy +3. I voted "yes" on the assumption it would connect to a Wii3. Thank goodness I will be finally be able to use the neural plug I had installed last year.

eentonig
April 16th, 2007, 12:31 PM
Yes,

But only of the screen resolution that's going to be projected on my eyes is going to be high enough:D

argie
April 16th, 2007, 01:26 PM
It'd be pretty funny, knowledge-wise we'd all be equal then and it'd be all down to how much we could think, that'd finish off the examination system in my country. I'd go for it just for that.

We could all cheat in exams by connecting to the internet and searching ;)

beefcurry
April 16th, 2007, 02:14 PM
That would just lead to an even more unfair society where rich kids with the money to afford uber chips will therefore have an advantage over poor kids with no chip or crappy chip :P. But no one knows about the future,

daynah
April 16th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Have any of you not read any utopian books? It always starts with things going so right like this and then Big Brother comes and use it to take over.

3rdalbum
April 16th, 2007, 02:34 PM
As long as it has an instant messenger; that would bring all new meaning to the name "Telepathy"!

Rutabega
April 16th, 2007, 03:33 PM
I voted no. I think I would lose my individuality with such a procedure. I prefer to have strengths and weaknesses and acquiring knowledge the natural way. Then again, if I would have an Apple chip would that give me a leg up with the fashion or make me more aesthetically pleasing to the observer? I guess an Apple chip would be similar to a cosmetic operation :D

Kernel Sanders
April 16th, 2007, 03:39 PM
As long as it didnt run on Windows, who knows what a BSOD could so to my brain! :shock:

raul_
April 16th, 2007, 03:58 PM
I voted "Yes" but you would have to include a downside

Dual Cortex
April 16th, 2007, 05:14 PM
Only if its X system is bulletproof. I don't want to be blind.

ahaslam
April 16th, 2007, 05:23 PM
Who is manufacturing the chip?

More importantly what OS will interact with the chip?

Oh, it'll be Microsoft, they'll log your every thought & erase your free will ;)

Dainn
April 16th, 2007, 05:26 PM
I voted no. I think the idea of being able to just download knowledge directly into your brain sounds cool....however, if I don't like the idea, and would not allow the government, to stick a chip in my kid to "protect them from kidnapping", why would I do this?

Dainn - paranoid and knows it

bullgr
April 16th, 2007, 05:26 PM
if it helps me to master ubuntu in a few minutes, yes...

this reminds me the Matrix movie:"I know Kung-Fu".

lotacus
April 16th, 2007, 05:53 PM
if it allows learning like in the matrix, then hell ya!

kragen
April 16th, 2007, 06:31 PM
got to say... this discussion is kind of meaningless without any frame of reference - I mean, the technology you are talking about is fairly far fetched and you haven't provided any details about how it might work - I mean, would the information be stored on a chip, and hence if you removed the chip, you would loose the information, or would the chip alter you brain somehow, are there any side effects, how available might this technology be...

I'll contribute to the discussion anyway though... :)

My biggest fear would be of the information being implanted not being 100% impartial. If you are learning something, then what you are taught is fairly fundamental in defining who we are as a person, and how we act / what we do, however if we are learning, even though someone else has prepared that material, we can still choose not to believe it, and mould it to fit in with our own beliefs and values.

If you had information implanted in your brain however, its a different story. I'm not even talking about someone abusing the technology - Its impossible to be completely impartial, and presumably the implants on a certain topic are likely to come from a limited number of sources - if you have masses and masses of people being implanted with this information, you could end up changing the morality and behavior of entire generations. For example, a implant / book on first aid would contain formation on when you should go and help people on the street - if they're too cautious and concerned with risks of legal action, then you would end up with generations of people who will be less willing to help other on the street needing first aid.

Another massive concern: If people are just being given information, then there is going to be less studying and experimentation, and hence less new learning and innovation, and hence we as a society could end up advancing our knowledge and understanding more slowly than we otherwise might have. Think about it - if you know something already, then you aren't going to bother trying it out, or figuring it out for yourselves, but the only way we (as a society) are going to learn more, is from people experimenting and figuring things out for themselves.

Its not that I wouldn't want one installed in me, so much that I wouldn't want everyone in the world to rely on them as a primary means of learning.

Sunflower1970
April 16th, 2007, 06:34 PM
No way. Sounds interesting in theory, but in the end it will not be used like that

Andyfield123
April 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM
Yes, if I could download games and stuff aswell and what sort of network would it be on for everyone to have accessto the internet.

But then you have to take into considoration that no one would be in competition with each other, and isnt that the fun/reason in life?!

kevinf311
April 16th, 2007, 06:57 PM
Yes. Yes. Definitely, yes!

My memory is so bad anything that would help me retain knowledge is OK by me.

Ghost in the Shell For The Win.

PartisanEntity
April 16th, 2007, 07:10 PM
I am amazed that so many would be interested in this technology if it had network capabilities which IMO would make it open to abuse and hacking and perhaps direct government control and manipulation.

I have noticed that when it comes to certain types of information and data my memory has become worse due to the use of cell phones. I used to know by heart many phone numbers, today I can recite about 5-6 only. Back then my memory of numbers was much better.

Perhaps relying on a tool that so directly impacts man will have adverse effects such as weakened memory and the inability to absorb information the natural way.

I voted 'no'.

raul_
April 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM
I am amazed that so many would be interested in this technology if it had network capabilities which IMO would make it open to abuse and hacking and perhaps direct government control and manipulation.

I have noticed that when it comes to certain types of information and data my memory has become worse due to the use of cell phones. I used to know by heart many phone numbers, today I can recite about 5-6 only. Back then my memory of numbers was much better.

Perhaps relying on a tool that so directly impacts man will have adverse effects such as weakened memory and the inability to absorb information the natural way.

I voted 'no'.

You're just speculating there. The first post doesn't mention that. Think of Matrix. They just downloaded information they wanted. Maybe they censored the "hacking Neo's head" part?

plb
April 16th, 2007, 07:14 PM
Will this chip be equipped with apt?

Sunflower1970
April 16th, 2007, 08:12 PM
Here's a thought..What if someone then creates a virus that is attached to the program/information to be downloaded to either control all these chipped people to do what they want...?

jpkeisala
April 16th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Scary... WindowsUpdate locks the brain because of activation bug....

ViRMiN
April 16th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Brain spam will be advertising cheap "firmware" :D

justin whitaker
April 16th, 2007, 08:22 PM
If one could implant a chip into the brain and then download for example the French language, the history of China or the study of medicine, would you do it?

I will be the first on my block to jack in. :D

Nils Olav
April 16th, 2007, 08:27 PM
If it is like extended memory then perhaps. If it is like extended memory where I can consciously decide what I remember with the chip then yes. If it is like extended memory where I simply download information then no (what if it makes stupid or contradicting memories?). If it is perfect then yes.

sloggerkhan
April 16th, 2007, 08:34 PM
I have a terrible memory so I'd be mildly interested in something like this that functioned soley as additional memory (hd space) with perhaps some sort of search function. Even then I'd probably be too afraid of someone using them to take over my mind to get one. Definately would not want it connected to the internet or anything.

cstudent
April 16th, 2007, 08:41 PM
I wouldn't implant a chip in my brain, but I have one on my shoulder.

jgrabham
April 16th, 2007, 08:46 PM
I wouldn't implant a chip in my brain, but I have one on my shoulder.

Are you serious or is that a joke?

cstudent
April 16th, 2007, 08:47 PM
Are you serious or is that a joke?

It's a joke.

jgrabham
April 16th, 2007, 09:21 PM
I dont get the people here. Youre saying humans need to be "upgraded".

Isnt that what sci-fi heros are fighting against? The borg in star trek and the cybers in Dr who.

zariuq
April 17th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I would love a chip that increased the speed of my brains processing power.
I would also love a chip that increased my memory capacity.
I would also like a chip that made new brain cells to counteract the net death of brain cells (when it starts happening)
Once I have all at least the enhanced memory capacity, I would love to be able to just import raw data from some massive database. (and it would allow me to read web article much faster than by eye...)


(now onto all the other electronic enhancements I would love besides brain chips...)

dsl
April 17th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Taking it as a joke: no, because I wouldn't like to become obsolete at the same pace my hardware does (nor to be upgraded too often).

Taking it seriously: difficult answer, expecially because it is now scifi but could early become a real possibility.

Of course it should be free of collateral effects.

But even so, I don't think it would be the same thing to download General Relativity into my brain and to have a real understanding of General Relativity. Unless the firmware is very very sophisticated. But this won't happen very early, I think.

If the purpose is to have a list of formulas or words available to my memory, no, I would prefer to browse a book for that.

Rush_898
April 17th, 2007, 11:49 PM
Considering what I've seen of the early technological adoption driving factors there has to be a pornographic application for this kind of technology. In which case, yes, yes I would.

StarsAndBars14
April 18th, 2007, 12:21 AM
Not in a million years.

kerry_s
April 18th, 2007, 01:05 AM
I have brain damage, so if it would help me, yes i would. They can use the steel plate for a wifi dish. :D

Nils Olav
April 18th, 2007, 01:24 AM
Considering what I've seen of the early technological adoption driving factors there has to be a pornographic application for this kind of technology. In which case, yes, yes I would.

lol

BarfBag
April 18th, 2007, 01:31 AM
No freakin' way. I've actually given this much thought. Imagine the control a dictator/government would have if there were chips planted in our heads. They could track our location, even read our thoughts. I've always been funny about things like this. Those pet commercials advertising location devices freak me out as well.

raul_
April 18th, 2007, 01:37 AM
No freakin' way. I've actually given this much thought. Imagine the control a dictator/government would have if there were chips planted in our heads. They could track our location, even read our thoughts. I've always been funny about things like this. Those pet commercials advertising location devices freak me out as well.

Again, i think you're speculating there. Of course it's possible to have those problems, but networking isn't even mentioned in the first post. You could always go to a shop and "buy" knowledge as u buy books today, and then download them to the chip. this is just an option.

I continue saying that if no downside is mentioned, i vote yes. IHMO, anything other than that is pure speculation, but valid of course

CoriolisSTORM
April 18th, 2007, 01:49 AM
That depends on what goes into the chip and what the chip is capable of. If it has its own unique ID number and DRM and such, then NO! Also, anyone ever read William Shatner's Quest For Tomorrow series? The first book in it has some hackers that have chips in their heads, and while hacking they get caught by government crap and one of 'em dies from presumably his chip exploding in his head. Not something I would take lightly, I've seen a Duron processor explode as well, so the whole idea of a microprocessor in my head has to be taken very carefully. However, diagnostics would be great, imagine a scan while you sleep that could detect the very first signs of cancer or some other equally terrible disease!

Quillz
April 18th, 2007, 01:59 AM
Sure, why not? I haven't got much time on this planet, and if it would be a benefit to helping the human race better understand how its bodies work and interact with the world, this is only good for me.

nu2this
April 18th, 2007, 02:05 AM
There was a time I'd have been willing to do this. As time has gone on though I've seen Business try to run peoples private lives with Govt right behind. It'll be sold to us in the name of safety & knowledge expansion but control will be what will happen. Your mind will always be known to your govt, your employer. Think against either you'll be fired or a button pressed at the NSA to change your thinking. This isn't paranoia it's what'll go down just look at what's going on now. Companies spying on their employees like Wal mart. Though I cannot remember the the school district there is one that will do disciplinary action on students that visit certain sites, at both home & school.
For that reason obviously i voted no.

matthekc
April 18th, 2007, 02:52 AM
I have always been a bigger fan of genetics. Processors have there place and that is tons of math fast. That 3 pound blob between your ears can do way more than any computer. If they could tweak a few genes to increase the efficiency of neuron connections and the speed of the electo/chemical reactions that are thoughts I'd be in. I also want to be able to jump 10 feet straight up but thats a different thread.

dolphinsonar
April 27th, 2007, 10:51 PM
The only problem would be when they came out with a better one six months down the road, you would be stuck with a crappy chip--in your head!

icechen1
April 27th, 2007, 10:54 PM
No,but i might if it is ''stable''.

zubrug
April 27th, 2007, 10:55 PM
I voted no but would reconsider if it was GPL.

LookTJ
April 27th, 2007, 10:59 PM
No, I like my brain.

psionyk
April 27th, 2007, 11:09 PM
Only if it's not manufactured by Microsoft... ;-)

Seriously though, this is not a far-fetched scenario despite the obvious Johnny Mnemonic analogies that immediately come to mind from all of this. The advancements being made in bionics for example are simply astounding, not only with increasing functionality of replacements, but better integration of mechanical and electrical components into the human body with less rejection and more lasting materials.

Take all of that a huge step further with the research being done in nanotechnology and biocomputing, where molecules such as DNA could be used as database storage for exponential amounts of information, more than any physical device would ever be able to handle. Whether the chip is something electrical, or biological, I think it's not if, but when things like this will happen.

BWF89
April 27th, 2007, 11:42 PM
ABSOLUTELY NOT!

First it's bad enough our world is as dependent on technology as it already is. Second what happens when the inevitable nuclear bombs go off and my brain gets fried because of the EMP? And third what happens when the government figures out a away to send us propaganda messages and coerce us to go along with some totalitarian regime via the brain chip.

I won't even have a Verichip (see Wikipedia) implanted in my body that would give the hospital my medical information or could be used as a type of credit card.

ViRMiN
April 27th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Does the human brain run faster than a dual-core Athlon 64?

psionyk
April 27th, 2007, 11:51 PM
Does the human brain run faster than a dual-core Athlon 64?

Depends on how much alcohol you've consumed beforehand.

ViRMiN
April 27th, 2007, 11:53 PM
How do you know I've had a lot of vodka tonight... my PC's infected with spyware.. time for a re-build!!!

Back Slasher
April 28th, 2007, 12:04 AM
I certainly would but I would be very cautious of upgrades. They might contain something like a genuine software advantage. I don't think that my BIOS could handle that. ;)


"Inside Intel we have an expression," says Steve Chase, president of Intel Russia. "If you have something tough, give it to the Americans. If you have something difficult, give it to the Indians. If you have something impossible, give it to the Russians."

xyz
May 19th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Wouldn't that be exactly the same as cloning?
Everybody would be the same. Kinda boring, wouldn't it?

steven8
May 19th, 2007, 09:13 AM
With my luck it would be a Fritz Chip, and all my organs would be found non-TCPA and I'd shut down.

Lucifiel
May 19th, 2007, 09:58 AM
I think this would not be very plausible as our body tends to reject "foreign" substances as a way of protecting itself.

This is the reason why the holes in your ears close up after you've removed your earrings or ear studs.

dizee
May 19th, 2007, 11:14 AM
Not if it ran windows :)

Seriously though it'd maybe be a step too far, if it was even possible. Humans should be human and computers be computers. Now robots on the other hand...

joriad
June 1st, 2007, 08:47 PM
The technology is already here, Its called a "braingate"
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060712/braingate_060712/20060712/
I think this would be advantageous to many people. However, in the wrong hands, the technology could be used to read your thoughts, control what you know, force spyware into your mind, or other subliminal messages (maybe even from the government; VOTE FOR ME, OBEY, FOLLOW THE RULES, GOVERNMENT CONTROL IS GOOD, INDEPENDENT THOUGHT IS BAD). And obviously it should not be M$ technology since the speech recognition program would fail miserably and people would probably start speaking jibberish. I think if i were to have a chip implanted into my brain it would have to be secure from all outside interference, tracking and also not be allowed to have control over my brain.
I had heard a rumor about an experiment that has been conducted on two subjects with this exact type of technology, they could control the actions of the subjects and force their will upon them. I think the company was Hali* (I only got the first part) and the two subjects were code named DC and GWB, whoever they may be. But this is just a rumor so any resemblance to real people may just be coincidental. So DC and GWB may not in fact just be puppets for this corporation. Or they may be.

juxtaposed
June 1st, 2007, 08:59 PM
Certainly not.

That is one way that people could - and certainly would (thinking governments and corporations here) use to control use somehow.

starcraft.man
June 1st, 2007, 09:04 PM
No.

Not even if TUX himself did the operation on my brain :p

tenzindorje
June 1st, 2007, 09:39 PM
Depends on what the chip did. If it sent my thoughts to the government, no thanks. If it could decode my thoughts and send them to a SoundBlaster card (also implanted in my head), that would be great!

ben::zen
July 19th, 2007, 04:19 AM
Only if A) There was an open-source form, and B) there was NO TPM or Trusted "Thinking" installed... I refrain from calling it computing because this is our brains now.

FuturePilot
July 19th, 2007, 04:20 AM
No. Trust me. Someone would eventually hack it and be able to control your actions and thoughts.:o

a12ctic
July 19th, 2007, 04:27 AM
AS long as my harddrive was running FOSS with no "trusted computing" or drm crap.

MetalOverlord
July 19th, 2007, 04:30 AM
Never. Way too much potential for abuse.

Ancheron
July 19th, 2007, 04:50 AM
I don't think there is any problem with it. According to my viewpoint of the mind-body problem, anyway. I voted yes.

mike102282
July 19th, 2007, 04:52 AM
of course i would do it who wouldn't?

DeadSuperHero
July 19th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Ah, but I've read an Asimov story about this called "Profession".
It's about people who learn through this sort of process. This is about one of the few that couldn't learn by machine. He was looked down upon in society, and taken to a special institute. Turns out, the ones who couldn't learn by machine were the innovators, the philosophers, the true geniuses of the world. They were the ones designing the next generation of technology. It's one of my favorites.
Now, back to the topic. Would I? Maybe. But there's a difference between knowing something and working for it. To instantly know something gives a cheap feeling, but to work for it gives you value.

EdThaSlayer
July 19th, 2007, 05:19 AM
Well, I would since I could learn all the programming languages in the world VERY fast, but then again I wouldn't since some black hat hacker could probably crack my brain open with bruteforce.

michael omah
December 11th, 2008, 10:09 PM
i would implant a chip into my brain as long as no body could send you viruses or anythink that would send you crazy or if the goverment had control over the chips, cuz if some psychopath manage to hack into the goverment and turned everone into mindless zombies by deleting everthink that has been downloaded by the chips then that would be very bad.:mad:

gjoellee
December 11th, 2008, 10:11 PM
if it runs Linux I will (don't want to get any virus on that chip!)

MikeTheC
December 11th, 2008, 10:12 PM
Absolutely not. Not even a chance.

Phreaker
December 11th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Absolutely .I want to be cyber

stinger30au
December 11th, 2008, 10:18 PM
not for me

it could be hackd and turned in to a v-chip like they stuck inside cartmans haed and zapped him everytime he tried to swear:lolflag:

cmay
December 11th, 2008, 10:20 PM
nope.
i fear that this chip that will be implanted is pre-installed with a microsoft windows version 9 or 10 and i dont want that to happen. :(

markp1989
December 11th, 2008, 10:22 PM
Id love to have that, directly tap in to the optic nerve, so you could see your own personal computer.

ability to have the internet, any were , make sure you have the firewall enabled :p

imagen the ability to SSH in to your childs brain, the control posibilitys are endless

portable videos and music are private

built in mobile phone, even thou people would think your mad

have a tiny webcam on the back of your head, so you can see who is behind you at all times.

ability to rewind what you have seen or heard, would be usefull for the day after you have been drunk.

The ability to view "hardware" stats so that you know if your body is performing at peek

instant messenger would rule!

if you get injured and have a concussion, then you can get back your memorys from you last "backup"

cmay
December 11th, 2008, 10:25 PM
ability to rewind what you have seen or heard, would be usefull for the day after you have been drunk.not if you get so drunk as i been sometimes . trust me. you do not want to remember or rewind that.

Coreigh
December 11th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Dorito's or Ruffles?

Dorito's:
Cool Ranch or Original?

Ruffles:
Sour Cream and Onion or Original with Dean's French Onion Dip?

Yownanymous
December 11th, 2008, 10:56 PM
If one could implant a chip into the brain and then download for example the French language, the history of China or the study of medicine, would you do it?

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a big corporation to control you... Ever watched the Cybermen episodes of Doctor Who?

CholericKoala
December 11th, 2008, 10:58 PM
This cant possibly be done well.

RFID's are getting hacked left and right.

EMP will own your face, and so would the MRI or huge magnet.

Palanthas
December 11th, 2008, 11:00 PM
I would, but as others stated;

-It would have to be free (or affordable)
-I would want a wireless of sorts (preferably like that of wifi but a 'cell phone' feature would be rather handy)(then we could almost say we have 'telepathy'!)
-obviously it would have to be incapable of taking control of me (thoughts, emotions, actions....)

These are among MANY options that I would want.

Aiello
December 11th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Never, never, never. We are dependent on technology enough as it is now. The last thing we need is something in our brain.

Besides, government mind control anyone?

Dr Small
December 11th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Absolutely not. Not even a chance.
+1
And not on me anywhere

khelben1979
December 11th, 2008, 11:15 PM
I chose no.

If the technology in the future will enable the production of brain enhancers which could be placed outside the brain, I would be interested, though.

Placing a chip inside the brain doesn't sound like a safe method to me and the method of doing this doesn't feel very cool either in the way how to do this the hi-tech way.

Barrucadu
December 11th, 2008, 11:31 PM
Yes, if and only if the brain is not dependant on the chip in any way (ie, a malfunction wouldn't cause mental problems). Ideally, the chip would just act as a receiver and then store information in the brain's usual way.

Hellfirept
December 11th, 2008, 11:33 PM
Wow! You guys are taking this too seriously! It would rock to be similar to Terminator! I'm picturing everybody saying "Hasta la vista...baby" with that cold and solid tone. Voted "no", though. I have enough troubles with my mind as it is...

CholericKoala
December 11th, 2008, 11:34 PM
I think I would buy a small emp generator to annoy people around me.

kellemes
December 11th, 2008, 11:35 PM
I think I would buy a small emp generator to annoy people around me.

I can do that without generator ;-)

smartboyathome
December 11th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Sure, as long as I could still use my tin foil hat. ;)

I would rather have my brain taken out of my body and connected to a computer. Think of how long we could "live" then!

malleus74
December 11th, 2008, 11:43 PM
not for me

it could be hackd and turned in to a v-chip like they stuck inside cartmans haed and zapped him everytime he tried to swear:lolflag:

That is hilarious! Of course, if you got the lightning powers he did at the end... :lolflag:

Seriously though, I've been following Braingate for a while. It was mentioned in an earlier post... a chip that would let you control computer systems with your mind is amazing. It's in it's infancy, but I can imagine so much being done with this. Other people already gotten to the point of recording nerve signals and playing them back... it could be the ultimate tutorial system!

Of course, if it progressed to be able to do 'backups', there'd be extreme moral complications if you thought about combining this with cloning...

If you actually understood everything you were taught matrix-style, wow.

There's a movement called transhumanism that believes in the right to upgrade yourself through genetics, technology, and even societial. I don't subscribe to all it's beliefs, but I'd love the genetic/tech parts...

They already know about a mytosin-blocking gene that would never let you gain weight or get out of shape, and they now know how to 'rejuvenate' cells in a petri dish.. imagine a couple million of your own 'young' stem cells being given to you as 'age therapy'...

linuxguymarshall
December 11th, 2008, 11:49 PM
As long as it was open source, ran the linux (or depending how far in the future then hurd) kernel, and I had control over what was on it. then yes

eenofonn
December 11th, 2008, 11:53 PM
No Way!... all they would have to do it start writing viruses for that.... hmmmm why add yet another point of failure to the human body....

smartboyathome
December 11th, 2008, 11:59 PM
No Way!... all they would have to do it start writing viruses for that.... hmmmm why add yet another point of failure to the human body....

But if the people who wrote the viruses had chips in their brains as well, wouldn't it be possible to "punish" them if they tried? And wouldn't it be possible to get rid of viruses by implanting chips at birth? And enable DRM on those chips? :twisted:

semitone36
December 12th, 2008, 12:01 AM
Dont smartphones basically do this for us anyway?

Well I guess that I would but only under these circumstances:

1. The chip would only act as a middle man. It would store information until my brain was able to copy the files.

2. My brain is root and has the same access priviledges. The chip would be similar to a home directory but there's no sudoing in my head allowed. Files in my brain are totally off limits to anything that hacks into the chip.

3. The chip would have to be easily removable for upgrades.

4. No SSH

5. People would have to complete a college degree and submit an application to gain access to the internet through their chip. This ensures that everyone will have had to go through a period in their lives that will give them an apprieciation for research and also build their critical thinking skills.

6. Can't be made by Apple. The last thing I need is an iBrain riddled with DRM and even MORE compatibility issues with my girlfriend.

markp1989
December 12th, 2008, 12:05 AM
i would like the idea, if it could monitor your health, blood presure, temp, blood sugar etc, so you could know if somthing was likely to go wrong.

Dr Small
December 12th, 2008, 12:14 AM
Anything is hackable. If it is instituted by the government, look out for mind control.

zmjjmz
December 12th, 2008, 12:17 AM
Hell yes, but some specifics first:
A) I must have absolute control over it, at the code level. Even the firmware must be OSS.
This wouldn't be a luxury like a computer. This would become part of you. It would be irreplaceable. It would become "you". At which point we could harvest stem cell clones and implant backup chips so that we would effectively cheat death.


So hell yes I would.

Aiello
December 12th, 2008, 12:27 AM
But if the people who wrote the viruses had chips in their brains as well, wouldn't it be possible to "punish" them if they tried? And wouldn't it be possible to get rid of viruses by implanting chips at birth? And enable DRM on those chips? :twisted:

Implanting chips at birth, thus taking away an individual's right to choose whether or not he/she wants the chip? Enabling DRM on the chip,basically selling part of a human to a company? Please be joking.

smartboyathome
December 12th, 2008, 12:34 AM
Implanting chips at birth, thus taking away an individual's right to choose whether or not he/she wants the chip? Enabling DRM on the chip,basically selling part of a human to a company? Please be joking.

Didn't you see the twisted smiley? I was joking, don't worry.

rubiin
December 12th, 2008, 12:36 AM
I would prefer to be immortal, so I could learn what I wanted, the way I wanted to. Voted "No"!

malleus74
December 12th, 2008, 01:10 AM
Just gaining control and access to the subconscious and lower-brain would be beyond incredible.

Have a bad habit... delete. Done.
Memory that you don't want/causes too much pain... fade it, or delete it in total.
A conky-like program running that keeps you up-to-date on your vitals... and the ability to force your body to suppress immune responses that actually cause more damage than viruses and bacteria and let the treatments work. Set temperature to 98.6..
Pain could be muted/suppressed... "OK, I know my leg's broken... set pain threshold to -5.

They already have developed artificial arms/legs that you control with your own nerve impulses, and receive 'tactile' signals back...

Giant Speck
December 12th, 2008, 01:14 AM
Why do I want a computer chip in my head?

I like being organic, thank you very much.

EdThaSlayer
December 12th, 2008, 02:56 AM
I can sleep and go on the internet at the same time?
Learn things that would take others years to learn?
...
*thinks*

Why not? Sounds like a sweet way to shorten my educational career!

jenkinbr
December 12th, 2008, 03:00 AM
As long as I get to choose the OS

zmjjmz
December 12th, 2008, 03:27 AM
Being organic is overrated guys.

magmon
December 12th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Only if it is:

1. Safe
2. Medical procedure is open to public scrutiny
3. The chip and technologies associated with it is completely open to public scrutiny
4. The chip and associated technologies are not in danger of breaching my privacy, or controlling my thoughts or emotions.
5. Affordable

Same conditions, but yeah. It would eliminate school, and we could download all the linux commands and what not.

will1911a1
December 12th, 2008, 03:57 AM
Absolutely not.

MaxIBoy
December 12th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Only if it is:

1. Safe
2. Medical procedure is open to public scrutiny
3. The chip and technologies associated with it is completely open to public scrutiny
4. The chip and associated technologies are not in danger of breaching my privacy, or controlling my thoughts or emotions.
5. Effordable
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Best answer.

FoxIII
December 12th, 2008, 04:04 AM
ooh! Matrix! Now onto something more serious...

I don't think there should be implants based on learning. Obviously, in this current "organic" climate, it would be only for the rich. However, if it were for solving problems, then, yes I would be in favour of it. I, myself, suffer with bipolar, and if a microchip in the brain would stop the 'downfalls' of such a condition, then I would be all for it.

Note:- I would be happy to be a guinnea pig in trials for this!

magmon
December 12th, 2008, 04:07 AM
Hmm, learning and condition controll perhaps?

BOBSONATOR
December 12th, 2008, 04:26 AM
Only if it is:

1. Safe
2. Medical procedure is open to public scrutiny
3. The chip and technologies associated with it is completely open to public scrutiny
4. The chip and associated technologies are not in danger of breaching my privacy, or controlling my thoughts or emotions.
5. Effordable

Under these circumstances, yes i would

Grant A.
December 12th, 2008, 04:29 AM
Unless it is for the movement of a bionic limb, or organ, then no.

Thought you meant potato chip at first. :confused:

Giant Speck
December 12th, 2008, 04:32 AM
Unless it is for the movement of a bionic limb, or organ, then no.

Thought you meant potato chip at first. :confused:

I'm still confused about the whole thing.

I think you'd need more than just a chip in your head to be able to use the information from it. Wouldn't you?

The only thing I can see a single chip doing is recording medical history, and I don't think I'd want that in my head. It'd make more sense for that to be just under the skin somewhere else on the body.

MikeTheC
December 12th, 2008, 05:19 AM
And if you're ever approached by either a man named Davros or John Lumic, do what Nancy Reagan always suggested...

"Just Say No!"

WaeV
December 12th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Hmm, learning and condition controll perhaps?

Ooh... Brave New World comes to mind... (Kinda like 1984 for those who haven't read the book.)



I wonder if you could get linux to run on your brain?...

MikeTheC
December 12th, 2008, 05:38 AM
If we run Linux in our brain, then I definitely want source for all the drivers. No proprietary, pre-compiled binaries here!

*suddenly wonders if God codes with vi or emacs*

tdrusk
December 12th, 2008, 06:12 AM
No, it would make me traceable.

Speaking of tracking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-nTWFfJw8)... (First 10 seconds)

Which reminds me of this (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm833329408/tt0286106).

Rambling over.

I wouldn't because it would affect the creativity in the world.

MikeTheC
December 12th, 2008, 07:22 AM
Although, there could at least be one bright side.

The voices you hear in your head won't be the result of psychosis...

Sorivenul
December 12th, 2008, 07:28 AM
No way.
I read "Harrison Bergeron", didn't anybody else?

sanderella
December 12th, 2008, 10:47 AM
No, but I would implant a babelfish in my ear.:KS

NintendoTogepi
December 12th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Sorry, no. I love computers, but I'm fine staying biological.

Metallion
December 12th, 2008, 11:27 AM
If we install compiz on that chip would that mean we can bend, mangle and opacify everything we see?

the yawner
December 12th, 2008, 11:59 AM
I would, but only so I can create a catalogue of my thoughts and dreams uploaded to a computer and not the other way around.

treepolitik
December 25th, 2008, 01:33 AM
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