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ryanazar
April 12th, 2007, 02:46 AM
I made a digg story summarizing the events, if you want to raise awareness all you diggers click here:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/PICTURE_ReviewIt_Magazine_Uses_Ubuntu_Logo

Here is a URL of the closeup:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8623/dscn0350dd6.jpg

And the flash version of this month's issue: (page 36-37)
http://www.reviewitmagazine.com/virtualmagazine/April2007/

I discovered the image this morning while eating breakfast, I was pretty shocked. Please raise awareness!

Long Live Ubuntu :KS

- Ryan

BarfBag
April 12th, 2007, 04:22 AM
Is there anything Ubuntu related in the magazine, or are they just lifting it? Could they get in trouble?

ryanazar
April 12th, 2007, 02:21 PM
No, there isn't anything about ubuntu in the magazine. They just stole the ubuntu logo to add to their graphic.

fredxor
April 12th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Here's the link to the high res version of the theft (stolen logo is in the lower right hand corner): http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=virtualmagaizneadubunturk7.png

Here's the link to the Digg page for it (link to high res is in a comment there): ReviewIt Magazine Uses Ubuntu Logo (http://digg.com/linux_unix/PICTURE_ReviewIt_Magazine_Uses_Ubuntu_Logo)

According to ispep (on Digg), the bubbles around the Ubuntu logo are from the installation splash for Fedora Core 5 as well.

What are we going to do?:confused:

- freddy

Technoviking
April 12th, 2007, 09:36 PM
The first question is what license is Ubuntu artwork under?

kirtap
April 12th, 2007, 09:37 PM
I also saw this on Digg. Maybe someone can shed some more light on what exactly the licensing terms for the Ubuntu logo are. Here is the trademark. (http://www.chipotle-software.com/index.php?id=16) But does that just cover the OS, or the logo as well?

found this:


Ubuntu Trademark Usage Policy

Ubuntu, the Ubuntu logo, Canonical and the Canonical logo are all registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd. Before using any of these marks outside the scope of fair use (such as using them in a review to refer to the product), please send an email to trademarks@ubuntu.com with your name, contact details, and a short explanation of your proposed usage of the trademarks. We will answer these mails as quickly as we can, so you can spread the love!

As long as you follow the Logo Standards listed at the bottom of this page, you do not need to contact us if:

*

You want to use the logo in a desktop background. Go right ahead! You can even share your work by listing it on our artwork page. Logos can be found here.
*

You want to link to our website from your site. Buttons can be found here.

If you have any questions at all about your proposed use, please contact trademarks@ubuntu.com.

It is important to maintain the visual integrity of the Ubuntu logo. We therefore ask that anyone considering use of the logo keep the following guidelines in mind. Following these guidelines will increase the chances that we will quickly approve your use of the logo.

* When appearing in multiple colours, the logo should use only the "official" logo colours.
* You may use transparency and gradient/depth tools, but should still maintain the Ubuntu colours.
* A monotone version may be acceptable in certain situations, if the use requires it (e.g., desktop backgrounds).
* Any scaling must retain the original proportions of the logo.
* Other than the variations listed here, the logo may not be modified in any way.
* Additional text may not be added in such a way that it appears to be part of the logo itself.

rburgess
April 12th, 2007, 09:43 PM
From www.ubuntu.com/legal -

Trademarks
Any trademarks, logos and service marks ("Marks") displayed on this website are the property of their owners, whether Canonical or third parties. For example, Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. Debian is a trademark of Software in the Public Interest, Inc. Windows is allegedly a trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Ubuntu and Canonical are registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd. Please see the Ubuntu Trademark Policy for more information


The Logo itself is trademarked as the IP of Cannonical Ltd. If the ad had wanted to use the image legaly, they would have emailed trademarks@ubuntu.com.

They are in violation of a trademark, much worse than a violation of copyright.

ppatalano
April 12th, 2007, 09:53 PM
This is going to be pretty interesting to see how this all unfolds :o

DizzyTech
April 12th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Just to clarify, the Ubuntu logo that was stolen is a Tango-ified version. You can find it on GNOME-Look.org. What I have to ask is: why won't the people who made the unofficial logo in the first place get in trouble? The magazine stole the design from them, not from Canonical. I think the design of the logo (I'll find it) is GPL or CC.

Sunflower1970
April 12th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Maybe because the one on Gnome-look is not-for-profit, and the magazine ad is making a profit.

DizzyTech
April 12th, 2007, 10:26 PM
That wouldn't matter though, unless its under Creative Commons Attribute-NonCommercial

arieloq
April 12th, 2007, 10:29 PM
Maybe the graphic designer who made this is using Ubuntu...:D
anyway is promotion... like the win flag

flashingcurser
April 12th, 2007, 10:41 PM
I tend to agree, I think the designer uses fedora and ubuntu. Probably sending a little wink and a nudge to the linux community. Even if you are a linux hating windows fanboy, and if you are using photoshop professionally, you know exactly what those logos represent.

I think it was done out of respect, I hope he doesn't get in too much trouble.

fredxor
April 12th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Maybe the graphic designer who made this is using Ubuntu...:D
anyway is promotion... like the win flag

It's not a promotion if no one knows the logo.

A promotion would be more like this: http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1681/ripmodtq1.th.png (http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ripmodtq1.png)

arieloq
April 12th, 2007, 10:46 PM
Check the word "beauty" at the side of the logo... sweet, a little touch of subliminal marketing

arieloq
April 12th, 2007, 10:54 PM
It's not a promotion if no one knows the logo.

Maybe this people dnot know what logos are the two in the square...

http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/pcmag.jpg

but we know...

duaneb
April 12th, 2007, 10:57 PM
There's also the fedora bubbles!

hardyn
April 12th, 2007, 11:05 PM
it will be up to the layers to figure out iff the correct percentage of ubuntus trademark was preproduced, and go from there. if cannonical even chooses to chase them.

Nik_Doof
April 12th, 2007, 11:14 PM
Turns out its part Fedora bubble and Ubuntu logos, but not even done by the guy...

check this guy (http://www.everdusk.be/index.php?page=Fedora_like_artpack) and the Brown Splash to see what i mean :)

ryanazar
April 12th, 2007, 11:21 PM
I think it was done out of respect, I hope he doesn't get in too much trouble.

Yeah, my intention of taking the pictures and raising awareness isn't to get the designer in trouble, I was just shocked they used the logo as part of the graphical design (for a commercial advertisement, no less).

Thanks for everyone who dugg this story and put it on the front page, I appreciate it. It will be interesting to see how things play out. :)

adarkmethod
April 12th, 2007, 11:25 PM
i for one, am happy to see this, especially surrounding the word Beauty.

fredxor
April 13th, 2007, 02:41 AM
Okay. It's a blatant rip of this svg: http://www.everdusk.be/uploads/File/mat_files/Fedora-like%20Ubuntu%20artpack/Splash/ubuntu-splash.svg

It's also from Everdusk: http://www.everdusk.be/index.php?page=Fedora_like_artpack

IYY
April 13th, 2007, 02:45 AM
It's obviously illegal (the logo is a trademark and is not under a Free license), but... What's wrong with some free advertising? Companies like Nike often stick their logo at some random position even without mentioning products or the company, just to increase brand recognition. As long as it's shown in a positive light (and this appears to be the case), I say it's good news!

fredxor
April 13th, 2007, 02:58 AM
but... What's wrong with some free advertising? Companies like Nike often stick their logo at some random position even without mentioning products or the company, just to increase brand recognition. As long as it's shown in a positive light (and this appears to be the case), I say it's good news!

Companies like Nike place ads containing only their logo because they already have brand recognition. Unlike Linux users, everyday people don't know what Ubuntu is or what the logo for it looks like. The average reader would look at that ad and say, "Wow, this company, Beauty [or whatever the name is], has a really cool logo". They won't associate it with Ubuntu because they've never seen anything related to it. They will associate the Ubuntu logo with the companies advertised in that ad. Anyways, we can probably assume that it is a rip from that svg I posted earlier. I believe that svgs do support layers (I don't have a program that can open it), so he probably just deleted the layer with the background and copied everything else to his ad.

ubuntu-geek
April 13th, 2007, 03:35 AM
Interesting timing, at the CC meeting there is an updated trademark document being drafted..

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DraftTrademarkPolicy2007

loconet
April 14th, 2007, 04:43 AM
Companies like Nike place ads containing only their logo because they already have brand recognition. Unlike Linux users, everyday people don't know what Ubuntu is or what the logo for it looks like. The average reader would look at that ad and say, "Wow, this company, Beauty [or whatever the name is], has a really cool logo". They won't associate it with Ubuntu because they've never seen anything related to it. They will associate the Ubuntu logo with the companies advertised in that ad. Anyways, we can probably assume that it is a rip from that svg I posted earlier. I believe that svgs do support layers (I don't have a program that can open it), so he probably just deleted the layer with the background and copied everything else to his ad.

Exactly, not only is it not advertising anything for Ubuntu/Linux, if we assume the magazine did not ask for permission, Canonical must protect its trademark to prevent setting a precedence. By law, trademarks must be defended or they risk being rendered meaningless.

slimdog360
April 14th, 2007, 05:00 AM
it looks like the fedora bubbles are on there too, just in brown rather then blue.

Johnsie
February 1st, 2009, 05:05 PM
I've heard that cannonical ripped that logo off a human rights company circa 2004.