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riffic
April 7th, 2007, 09:48 PM
This was announced today in the Gaim mailing lists, (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20070407135734.GB2776%40pidg in.im&forum_name=gaim-i18n) that they will be changing their name to Pidgin IM. Hopefully this means the real 2.0 release should be around the corner!

banjobacon
April 7th, 2007, 09:56 PM
Wow. So they hadn't released a non-beta 2.0 for legal reasons.

I'm actually glad glad there's been a name change (as it's more than an AIM client), but it's unfortunate that it was due to legal threats.

TravisNewman
April 7th, 2007, 10:01 PM
ugh... well, I was annoyed when Mozilla changed from Phoenix to Firebird, and again from Firebird to Firefox... I'm sure I'll get used to this one too, but Pidgin IM? Dunno, not a fan of that.

ComplexNumber
April 7th, 2007, 10:13 PM
ugh... well, I was annoyed when Mozilla changed from Phoenix to Firebird, and again from Firebird to Firefox... I'm sure I'll get used to this one too, but Pidgin IM? Dunno, not a fan of that.
yeah, i have the same thoughts :mrgreen:. they could have called it something at least slightly dynamic sounding like eagle or falcon or something. but pidgin? :lolflag:. it sounds far too much like pigeon, and where i come from a pigeon is a no-hoper.

slayerboy
April 7th, 2007, 10:24 PM
I always knew there was going to be issues once AOL noticed GAIM. I wish they would've had more sensibility with naming it, but oh well.

I love GAIM. I hope Pidgin has equal, if not better success. I can't wait for all the new features!

yabbadabbadont
April 7th, 2007, 10:34 PM
It's not pigeon, it's pidgin.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pidgin&x=0&y=0

ComplexNumber
April 7th, 2007, 10:46 PM
It's not pigeon, it's pidgin.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pidgin&x=0&y=0
i know, but i'm saying that they sound very similar.

Hells_Dark
April 7th, 2007, 10:57 PM
It's not pigeon, it's pidgin.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pidgin&x=0&y=0

Yes.. And with your dictionary, we have :


pidgin
1876, from pigeon English (1859), the reduced form of the language used in China for communication with Europeans


i know, but i'm saying that they sound very similar.

^^

Mateo
April 7th, 2007, 10:59 PM
i couldn't care less about the name, as long as they don't change the little icon in the tray... do you think it's too close to the AIM mascot?

finferflu
April 7th, 2007, 11:01 PM
Also, check this out, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin) I like the fact that at least for once an application's name is not an acronym.

yabbadabbadont
April 7th, 2007, 11:03 PM
Yes.. And with your dictionary, we have :
^^

Exactly. It is a clever reference to the deplorable "IM speak" used by kids these days. There has even been talk of allowing it on college entrance exams.... :roll:

ynnhoj
April 7th, 2007, 11:04 PM
i couldn't care less about the name, as long as they don't change the little icon in the tray... do you think it's too close to the AIM mascot?i've been thinking that gaim could use a new icon/logo for a while. so i have high hopes :)

ButteBlues
April 7th, 2007, 11:19 PM
i've been thinking that gaim could use a new icon/logo for a while. so i have high hopes :)
Here's to hoping for Tango icons in Pidgen 2.1! ;)

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 12:10 AM
yeah, at this point gaim's icons are the only ones that haven't been tango-fied. And the 3rd party icon sets just don't look right to me...

Mr. Picklesworth
April 8th, 2007, 12:22 AM
Hm, maybe a non-beta will make it into Feisty after all!

I didn't know the Gaim developers were going to all that trouble! Kudos to them for suffering through bloody AOL on our behalf. I've known a few other people to have run-ins with AOL's lawyers, and they didn't last 5 minutes.

Pikestaff
April 8th, 2007, 12:31 AM
Haha, they could've named it GNAIM, Gaim's Not AIM :p

ComplexNumber
April 8th, 2007, 12:36 AM
yeah, at this point gaim's icons are the only ones that haven't been tango-fied. And the 3rd party icon sets just don't look right to me...
its possible to get a tango icon pack for gaim, though.

ButteBlues
April 8th, 2007, 12:44 AM
its possible to get a tango icon pack for gaim, though.
But it's a hackish solution that isn't the prettiest. The Pidgin team should work with Tango to make a more complete set for use in Pidgin.

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 12:48 AM
its possible to get a tango icon pack for gaim, though.
yes, but I'm not a fan of it :)

picpak
April 8th, 2007, 02:22 AM
I would've called it the PIMP - Proper Instant Messaging Program.

Hey, it goes well with the GIMP...

plb
April 8th, 2007, 04:04 AM
to pidgin, hopefully this shouldn't bring any problems with feisty

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20070407135734.GB2776%40pidg in.im&forum_name=gaim-i18n
http://pidgin.im/

jsmidt
April 8th, 2007, 04:21 AM
Crazy. I was wondering if anyone was still working on gaim. How long has it been since an official release?

MedievalAnubis
April 8th, 2007, 04:56 AM
It's been one or two months since the last release (beta 6)

But there is going to be a new release within a week or two according to the end of the news post.

dyous87
April 8th, 2007, 04:57 AM
I read somewhere that Pidgin IM is no longer going to be open source. Does anyone know it this is true. If that were the case it would be terrible!

LookTJ
April 8th, 2007, 05:00 AM
I read somewhere that Pidgin IM is no longer going to be open source. Does anyone know it this is true. If that were the case it would be terrible!

I guess we will wait and see ;)

Might be a rumor.

dyous87
April 8th, 2007, 05:02 AM
I guess we will wait and see ;)

Might be a rumor.

If that is the case then were ought to take the Gaim Beta 2 source code and fork it.

cstrippie
April 8th, 2007, 05:09 AM
This sounds like a repeat of the Firebird/Firefox issue a couple of years back, but I don't much care what they call it: Gaim/Pidgeon rocks.

zanglang
April 8th, 2007, 05:17 AM
I read somewhere that Pidgin IM is no longer going to be open source. Does anyone know it this is true. If that were the case it would be terrible!

Whoa, what?! o_O That can't be true, there's no mention whatsoever on the page or in IRC (yes, #pidgin) whatsoever. Must've been a hoaxer...

Albi
April 8th, 2007, 05:18 AM
I see, so it's a play on words.
Name's still a bit iffy though

dyous87
April 8th, 2007, 05:26 AM
Whoa, what?! o_O That can't be true, there's no mention whatsoever on the page or in IRC (yes, #pidgin) whatsoever. Must've been a hoaxer...

OK in that case i'm good, the name change doesn't bother me actually i welcome it, gaim sounds too much like aim which is a terrible program.

3rdalbum
April 8th, 2007, 05:35 AM
I was reading a review of Gaim 2 beta the other day, and I thought "Gee, why do they call it Gaim? The name makes it sound like it's just a GTK-based AOL messenger. Hey, it's a wonder that AOL doesn't sue the developers."

yabbadabbadont
April 8th, 2007, 06:07 AM
Here is the official announcement:
Clicky (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20070407135734.GB2776%40pidg in.im&forum_name=gaim-i18n)

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 06:48 AM
It would be illegal for them to take the current source and close it. They are legally not able to modify the current source and release it non-free, because of the terms of the GPL. So if it's closed-source, it would have to be a total re-write. Even if it's their own code, the GPL kinda makes it everyone's code.

Technoviking
April 8th, 2007, 06:59 AM
May be too late to be changed for Feisty.

karellen
April 8th, 2007, 07:29 AM
NOOOO! (!)
I like gaim the way it was, it sounded just perfect for my tastes

hikaricore
April 8th, 2007, 07:32 AM
Saw this earlier but didn't know where the hell to post it lol.

It's gonna be really weird not calling Gaim well... Gaim

LookTJ
April 8th, 2007, 07:42 AM
I view Gaim as: GTK+ all instant Messengers...not as AIM.

RAV TUX
April 8th, 2007, 08:07 AM
glad they finally settled, anything but GAIM is a good name

Congratulations to Pidgin

hardyn
April 8th, 2007, 08:59 AM
I like pidgin... trade languages... captures the spirit of IMs i think.

kvarley
April 8th, 2007, 09:08 AM
The new name sounds like pigeon, lol. It is gonna be strange not calling Gaim...Gaim!

-Vitium-

RAV TUX
April 8th, 2007, 09:12 AM
glad they finally settled, anything but GAIM is a good name

Congratulations to PidginI still prefer Kopete:)

Denis
April 8th, 2007, 10:29 AM
I'll have to get used to that new name. Gaim was a nice name I think, I've actually never wondered about it's meaning.

Well, as long as the development goes on. Let Pidgin 2.0.0 come to us ;)

xopher
April 8th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Did they explain the reason(s) behind this name change? I liked GAIM, hope I'll like the new one as much :rolleyes:

simplyw00x
April 8th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Did they explain the reason(s) behind this name change?
Yes, at great length. To summarise, because AOL are bastards.

bapoumba
April 8th, 2007, 12:41 PM
@ plb: merged your thread in this one.

EdThaSlayer
April 8th, 2007, 01:05 PM
What a strange name. I preferred GAIM, but it had AIM in it. Oh well, if this means that the program gets released earlier than why not change the name? :)

slayerboy
April 8th, 2007, 01:23 PM
come to think of it I thought GAIM was a litle too stagnant lately LOL Now we know!

graabein
April 8th, 2007, 01:46 PM
Congrats on the new name. Gaim was okay but I guess Pidgin is better and one gets used to new names pretty quickly. I hope the new logo will look hot and fit into the overall GNOME / notify / Tango look.

Emoticons/smilies from ubuntuforums would be neat to have in Gaim btw. Is this possible??

Sunnz
April 8th, 2007, 02:15 PM
Well we are free to call it whatever we want right? Like in forums and stuff... not actually go an rename things...

I mean, within these few years, if you say GAIM people should still know what you are talking about.

weekend warrior
April 8th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Pidgin eh?.... well it'll do I suppose, joining the ranks of other strange or surreal nix app names. :-k :???: ;)

website's been changed accordingly btw >> http://www.pidgin.im


Edit: just noticed - complete with "Pidgin is NOT endorsed by or affiliated with AOL" tag at the bottom, heh.

SunnyRabbiera
April 8th, 2007, 03:33 PM
well maybe a name change is good, as Gaim was never quite able to fully replicate AIM anyhow.
But does the AOL nonsense effect Pidgin in its abilities to use the aim protocol?
or will we be forced to use kopete to get aim running or some other app like that?

egon spengler
April 8th, 2007, 04:07 PM
It would be illegal for them to take the current source and close it. They are legally not able to modify the current source and release it non-free, because of the terms of the GPL. So if it's closed-source, it would have to be a total re-write. Even if it's their own code, the GPL kinda makes it everyone's code.

That's not entirely true. The copyright holders of code are allowed to relicense as they see fit and so it's perfectly acceptable for a team to close source a project. Now of course if GAIM includes GPL code that the GAIM/Pidgin developers do not own the copyright to then they can't just arbitraily modify the license without removing the third party code or getting consent from the copyright holders of that code.

I would assume that previous version are "out of the bottle" so to speak and so they can't retroactively relicense the prior versions

Dual Cortex
April 8th, 2007, 05:10 PM
And... it's (or was) Gaim... not GAIM, right?

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 05:14 PM
That's not entirely true. The copyright holders of code are allowed to relicense as they see fit and so it's perfectly acceptable for a team to close source a project. Now of course if GAIM includes GPL code that the GAIM/Pidgin developers do not own the copyright to then they can't just arbitraily modify the license without removing the third party code or getting consent from the copyright holders of that code.

I would assume that previous version are "out of the bottle" so to speak and so they can't retroactively relicense the prior versions


Yes, but wouldn't all the developers who wrote any of the code have to agree to the code going closed-source in order for that to happen? I doubt that's very likely...

slimdog360
April 8th, 2007, 05:17 PM
I never really liked the name gaim, but pidgin?????? wtfbbq

beartard
April 8th, 2007, 05:29 PM
Funny how that works. I always thought it was "gay" + "aim." :)


I view Gaim as: GTK+ all instant Messengers...not as AIM.

jdhore
April 8th, 2007, 05:34 PM
http://bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/?p=25

the title pretty much says it all, but if you haven't heard or read the topic here about it, Gaim has been rennamed to Pidgin IM and apparently one of the developers put a screenshot of it on his blog. i REALLY hope it ends up looking like this and that this update makes it's way to Feisty, backports or even .debs because i REALLY want it and i think it would switch me back to Gaim (i use Kopete now)...the biggest thing i always thought Gaim was lacking was a nice GUI and it seems that they've finally put one in.

Sammi
April 8th, 2007, 05:49 PM
I've been using Gaim 2.0 beta 6 for a while now and it looks exactly like that.
Pidgin 2.0 will be almost the same as beta 6.

BarfBag
April 8th, 2007, 06:24 PM
What is a pidgin? Do I want to know?

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 07:13 PM
That's not how mine looks-- the icons are different. I like it!

BarfBag:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pidgin&x=0&y=0

ButteBlues
April 8th, 2007, 07:33 PM
http://bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/?p=25

the title pretty much says it all, but if you haven't heard or read the topic here about it, Gaim has been rennamed to Pidgin IM and apparently one of the developers put a screenshot of it on his blog. i REALLY hope it ends up looking like this and that this update makes it's way to Feisty, backports or even .debs because i REALLY want it and i think it would switch me back to Gaim (i use Kopete now)...the biggest thing i always thought Gaim was lacking was a nice GUI and it seems that they've finally put one in.
I got my wish about those Tango icons! :D

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 07:37 PM
I'm currently compiling pidgin source from http://developer.pidgin.im/

I'll let you know how it goes

ButteBlues
April 8th, 2007, 07:41 PM
I'm currently compiling pidgin source from http://developer.pidgin.im/

I'll let you know how it goes
Ditto. ;)

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 07:49 PM
I'm very impressed with the new look.
Anyone who wants to compile, check here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2421677#post2421677

Please use that thread to ask for help if you run into any trouble.

Dual Cortex
April 8th, 2007, 07:57 PM
Thanks. Compiling right now.

banjobacon
April 8th, 2007, 09:40 PM
This will still be called Gaim in Feisty, I guess. Right?

TravisNewman
April 8th, 2007, 09:41 PM
I doubt this will make it into feisty. We'll probably still have beta6 but I'm sure it'll get backported.

ButteBlues
April 8th, 2007, 09:47 PM
In IRC last night, Hobbsee said that there is a minimal chance that it could get an exemption from freeze due to it not only lacking any real new features beyond b6, but because the reason for the change is based on legalities.

Possible, and hopeful, but minimal nonetheless.

Polygon
April 8th, 2007, 10:31 PM
In IRC last night, Hobbsee said that there is a minimal chance that it could get an exemption from freeze due to it not only lacking any real new features beyond b6, but because the reason for the change is based on legalities.

Possible, and hopeful, but minimal nonetheless.

makes sense.

and also, does anyone know if the logo for pidgin is going to be changed? did aol also find that infringing?

kahrytan
April 8th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Hm, maybe a non-beta will make it into Feisty after all!

I didn't know the Gaim developers were going to all that trouble! Kudos to them for suffering through bloody AOL on our behalf. I've known a few other people to have run-ins with AOL's lawyers, and they didn't last 5 minutes.

No maybe about it. Fiesty would be violating AOL copyright and trademarks if it included GAIM.

jdhore
April 8th, 2007, 11:24 PM
makes sense.

and also, does anyone know if the logo for pidgin is going to be changed? did aol also find that infringing?

i compiled Pidgin and so far, the main logos for the program look a lot like the logos when they were Gaim

smbm
April 8th, 2007, 11:26 PM
Do you still have the tar of the source? The sight is down!

ButteBlues
April 8th, 2007, 11:50 PM
Do you still have the tar of the source? The sight is down!
I do. I sadly don't have the time to upload it though. :(

TravisNewman
April 9th, 2007, 12:46 AM
I imagine they're getting hit hard. I deleted the sources (sorry).

siimo
April 9th, 2007, 12:53 AM
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/5239/pidginab3.th.png

(http://www.uni.uiuc.edu/~jasonhe/i/pidgin.png)

jdhore
April 9th, 2007, 01:07 AM
Do you still have the tar of the source? The sight is down!

give me a minute and i can upload the source...i cannot make the .debs though

jdhore
April 9th, 2007, 01:11 AM
here is the exact source from the Pidgin site:

http://unpluggedpodcast.dreamhosters.com/files/pidgin-20070408.tar.gz

vicox
April 9th, 2007, 01:14 AM
Thank you!! :)

InuyashaDuelist
April 9th, 2007, 01:28 AM
I like a change of name. I was never really a fan of the name "Gaim," anyway. It always confused people when I tried to recommend it to them as an alternative. They always thought I was making a typo and was talking about AIM.

macogw
April 9th, 2007, 04:59 AM
I read somewhere that Pidgin IM is no longer going to be open source. Does anyone know it this is true. If that were the case it would be terrible!

No, it's still open. They're just not using svn/cvs. They're using something called Monotone. They can't really close it, can they? It's GPL'd. Monotone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotone_(software)

macogw
April 9th, 2007, 05:05 AM
What is a pidgin? Do I want to know?

It's a language that is the result of people who speak different languages needed to find a way to communicate. It is always a second language. Once it becomes a "native" language (meaning a generation learns it as their first language), it is a creole.

WiseElben
April 9th, 2007, 05:06 AM
This legal threat proves that GAIM err... Pidgin is become more popular. They are scared, and that is a good thing. Persecution is normal for us (as in the open source community).

mrgnash
April 9th, 2007, 05:41 AM
I downloaded and extracted the source for this but.... where's the configure? :confused: There's configure.ac and configure.h.mingw, but no plain ole configure that I can actually run.

EDIT: Oops, nevermind, I've got to autogen.sh it first right :P

LookTJ
April 9th, 2007, 05:43 AM
I downloaded and extracted the source for this but.... where's the configure? :confused:I searched this forum and found this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404508).

TravisNewman
April 9th, 2007, 05:45 AM
use autogen.sh

That will actually create a ./configure script, so if it fails during the configuring process, you can fix the dependency issues and then just run ./configure instead of autogen.sh, to save yourself a little bit of time.

adam.tropics
April 9th, 2007, 05:50 AM
... Persecution is normal for us (as in the open source community).

...and the 'poor poor pitiful us' routine is possibly just as constructive!

Sunnz
April 9th, 2007, 05:50 AM
It's a language that is the result of people who speak different languages needed to find a way to communicate. It is always a second language. Once it becomes a "native" language (meaning a generation learns it as their first language), it is a creole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2sAhK_DzIs

pirothezero
April 9th, 2007, 07:14 AM
Wow that's a shame, not so much because of the way the name sounds but because we have corporate entities that are able to define the tinyest details of a computer application.

Just one more reason to tell them to f off.

Mr. Picklesworth
April 9th, 2007, 04:30 PM
Hey, Pidgin is a far cooler name than AIM.

Mateo
April 9th, 2007, 04:50 PM
eh. so, people who are using the beta or whatever it is, did they change the tray icon? from the screenshots it looks like they did.

TravisNewman
April 9th, 2007, 05:10 PM
They did. Looks like the only thing still using the old Gaim icon is the menu entry, and I think that might get changed too.

hoagie
April 9th, 2007, 05:30 PM
Is there a release for pidgim ?
Are there any new features or will it just be Gaim with a different name?

jdhore
April 9th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Is there a release for pidgim ?
Are there any new features or will it just be Gaim with a different name?

currently there's no official release...but there will be in a week or 2...everyone who's currently running it is running it from compiling a SVN Snapshot the Pidgin team put on their site. and as far as i've noticed, there are no new features, but Pidgin is quite a bit faster than Gaim, they re-did the interface and from what i've noticed, they've fixed quite a few bugs

banjobacon
April 9th, 2007, 05:50 PM
they re-did the interface and from what i've noticed, they've fixed quite a few bugs

What are you comparing it to, beta 6?

jdhore
April 9th, 2007, 05:59 PM
What are you comparing it to, beta 6?

yes...i have Beta 6 on the same Ubuntu Feisty system as i have Pidgin on

TravisNewman
April 9th, 2007, 06:01 PM
really? You saw speed increases? I didn't see any at all honestly. It just looks prettier :)

jdhore
April 9th, 2007, 06:22 PM
really? You saw speed increases? I didn't see any at all honestly. It just looks prettier :)

they weren't massive, but the buddy list and IM windows open faster by 2 or 3 seconds

ButteBlues
April 9th, 2007, 06:31 PM
they weren't massive, but the buddy list and IM windows open faster by 2 or 3 seconds
They sure do. :)

Wesseli
April 9th, 2007, 07:17 PM
Horrible name! Well, not much improvement one way or another...

qamelian
April 9th, 2007, 07:23 PM
Horrible name! Well, not much improvement one way or another...

Not so horrible. At least it is obviously related to communication. I think it's pretty catchy!

Arisna
April 9th, 2007, 07:41 PM
RIP Gaim
Killed by AOL;
They didn't like the naim
(Trademarks LOL).

Nah, just kidding. I like the new name and didn't even have to look it up in the dictionary to understand it. :KS

WiseElben
April 9th, 2007, 09:43 PM
they weren't massive, but the buddy list and IM windows open faster by 2 or 3 seconds

I don't see how this is possible.. I want to shave that much time off! 2-3 seconds is a LONG time, and Pidgin is basically the current GAIM Beta 6 right? Or is a new Beta version? Unless you're doing an SVN compile?

jdhore
April 9th, 2007, 11:09 PM
I don't see how this is possible.. I want to shave that much time off! 2-3 seconds is a LONG time, and Pidgin is basically the current GAIM Beta 6 right? Or is a new Beta version? Unless you're doing an SVN compile?

Pidgin is basically Gaim Beta7

TravisNewman
April 9th, 2007, 11:25 PM
It could be some beta debugging code was taken out.

Outworlder
May 1st, 2007, 01:17 AM
Yes, but wouldn't all the developers who wrote any of the code have to agree to the code going closed-source in order for that to happen? I doubt that's very likely...


WTF?

What's with all the people talking about Pidgin becoming closed-source? Does this name change bring about hallucinations or something?

Guys, this was a name change, caused by litigation with AOL. Now it's settled, and pidgin-devel is bustling with activity. 2.0 is coming real-soon-now(TM).

As for the guy that said "Linux image was tarnished" or something to that effect, because a program did not support voice talk using *Microsoft's* network, grow up. This is all I have to say.

There's more to an operating systems than voice chat under a proprietary protocol, which is crappy anyway. If you are so interested about voice chat, try Skype or Gizmo. Their voice quality is much better anyway.

Artstew
May 1st, 2007, 02:14 AM
I've been using Gaim 2.0 beta 6 for a while now and it looks exactly like that.
Pidgin 2.0 will be almost the same as beta 6.

So you liked GAIM 2 / Pidgin? Wow, I thought it was actually getting worse. I liked it when it was nice and small and simple. They're getting away from that. I like that it's looking nicer, but it shouldn't be at the cost of performance and simplicity I think. But that's just me. I don't need all kinds of features to talk to my friends. I don't do alot of faces and file transfers and stuff. Just typing mostly.

And did anyone else using the 2.0 beta versions get it hanging? It was freezing up and lagging so bad I had to go back and use version 1.5, which I consider to be a nice stable and simple program. I'd like to see the 2.0 when it's released, but I'm worried it will be too buggy, complicated, or something. I will continue using the old versions until I find the next stable release... (to my tastes... lol)

gamma
May 1st, 2007, 05:36 AM
So you liked GAIM 2 / Pidgin? Wow, I thought it was actually getting worse. I liked it when it was nice and small and simple. They're getting away from that. I like that it's looking nicer, but it shouldn't be at the cost of performance and simplicity I think. But that's just me. I don't need all kinds of features to talk to my friends. I don't do alot of faces and file transfers and stuff. Just typing mostly.

And did anyone else using the 2.0 beta versions get it hanging? It was freezing up and lagging so bad I had to go back and use version 1.5, which I consider to be a nice stable and simple program. I'd like to see the 2.0 when it's released, but I'm worried it will be too buggy, complicated, or something. I will continue using the old versions until I find the next stable release... (to my tastes... lol)

I personally found things to be more simplified in 2.0. Instead of using a separate window for away messages, it's built into the buddy list. That means there's no more separate unminimizable away message window. Also the preferences page seems simpler, or if anything better placed.

jamescox84
May 12th, 2007, 02:44 PM
Gaim always sounded too much like Game, all my Windows mate always said "Game what is that? What a strange name.". The I had to explain it was Gaim, G A I M. At least this will spare me that trouble.

Treebeard
May 13th, 2007, 01:52 AM
Gaim always sounded too much like Game, all my Windows mate always said "Game what is that? What a strange name.". The I had to explain it was Gaim, G A I M. At least this will spare me that trouble.

Now you'll probably have to explain that it's Pidgin and not p-i-g-e-o-n :)

Enverex
May 13th, 2007, 02:32 AM
I'll be happy when they switch to a name that I don't feel like a complete moron saying :(