Music Culturization: Help.

[bored2k]

Here's the deal. I'm a 18 year old hermit with an unsatiable hunger for learning. I just recently completely wiped off my music collection because I thought I wasn't on the right path. So I've decided to try and get good music, but not simply good, respected good. For this reason I've tried to start a collection based on artists/bands considered to be [IMO] in a League of they're own.

So I'm summoning all the Ubuntu music geeks out there who think they could contribute to my musical education, by pointing me to great and possibly -must have- albums :). Currently this is my collection:


Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill (1995)
Alicia Keys The Diary Of Alicia Keys (2003)
Ani Difranco - Dilate (1996)
Beck - Midnite Vultures (1999)
Ben Folds - 3 EP Set + Rarities (2004)
Ben Folds - Songs For Silverman (2005)
Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man - Out of Season (2002)
Bjork - Selmasongs (2000)
Chick Corea & Return to Forever - Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy (1991)
Dave Matthews Band - Stand Up (2005)
Incubus - Morning View (2001)
John Coltrane - Blue Train (1990) (1997 Remastered version)
Lamb - Lamb (1997)
Louis Armstrong - Louis Armstrong's All Time Greatest Hits (1994)
Manu Chao - Clandestino (1998)
Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959) (2002 Remastered version)
Miles Davis - Miles Smiles (1966) (1998 Remastered version)
Morcheeba - The Antidote (2005)
Norah Jones - Come Away With Me (2002)
Norah Jones - Feels Like Home (2004)
Pearl Jam - Yield (1998)
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
Portishead - Portishead (1997)
Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)
Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine (1992)
Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company (2004)
The Who - Tommy (Deluxe Edition)(2003)
Tori Amos - The Beekeeper (2005)
Travis - The Invisible Band (2001)
Travis - The Man Who (2000)



--I'm looking for complete albums, not just tracks or simple Band names :D (please tell me what genre it is)--



Additions:
* May 26: added Pearl Jam - Yield (1998) < thanks to panickedthumb
* May 26: added Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (1973) < thanks to tread
* May 26: added Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959) < thanks to jeremy
* May 26: added Ben Folds - 3 EP Set + Rarities (2004) < thanks to poofyhairguy
* May 26: added Incubus - Morning View (2001) < thanks to poofyhairguy
* May 27: added John Coltrane - Blue Train (1990) < thanks to Knome_fan
* May 27: added Ani Difranco - Dilate (1996) < thanks to panickedthumb
* May 27: added Beck - Midnite Vultures (1999) < thanks to lloyd
* May 27: added Miles Davis - Miles Smiles (1966) (1998 Remastered version)
* May 27: added Radiohead - OK Computer (1997) < thanks to poofyhairguy
* May 27: added Manu Chao - Clandestino (1998) < thanks to lloyd
* May 27: added Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man: Out of Season (2002) < thanks to lloyd
* May 28: added Chick Corea & Return to Forever - Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy (1991) < thanks to jeremy
* May 28: added Louis Armstrong - Louis Armstrong's All Time Greatest Hits (1994) < thanks to panickedthumb
* May 28: added Travis - The Invisible Band (2001) < thanks to poofyhairguy
* May 28: added Travis - The Man Who (2000) < thanks to poofyhairguy
* May 29: added Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine (1992) < thanks to lloyd
* May 29: added The Who - Tommy (Deluxe Edition)(2003) < thanks to panickedthumb
* May 29: added Lamb - Lamb (1997) < thanks to kassetra
* May 29: added Morcheeba - The Antidote (2005) < thanks to kassetra
* May 29: added Portishead - Portishead (1997) < thanks to kassetra

[zaxer]

Anything about Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis, The Who... So many groups...

Of course Ben Harper :)

Want more?

[bored2k]

Anything about Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis, The Who... So many groups...

Of course Ben Harper :)

Want more?
Yes but I'd want specific album names please :) ?

[tread]

Pink Floyd - all the albums.
But especially:

Dark Side of the Moon
The Wall
Wish You Were Here
Obscured by Clouds
Meddle

[zaxer]

Yes but I'd want specific album names please :) ?
Ok.

Any of Led Zeppelin I, II, III and IV albums. Actually those are its names Led Zeppelin IV or so.

Jimi Hendrix - Axis Bold As Love.

Elvis 65 is a great album with the best songs of Elvis in the mid 60's.

Ben Harper - Welcome To The Cruel World.

Bob Dylan - The Ultimate Collection (also a great best of)

Metallica - Ride The Lightining

Nirvana - Nevermind.

[bored2k]

Thanks !
Other members, keep it coming ! I'd like to get different styles of music, not just the same bands with different albums ;).

[tread]

Different styles huh? Try The Alan Parsons Project - The Best of The Alan Parsons Project.

I was wondering at what point you would get rid of the screenshot :)

[bored2k]

Different styles huh? Try The Alan Parsons Project - The Best of The Alan Parsons Project.

I was wondering at what point you would get rid of the screenshot :)
LoL
It's 4:20am so I'm going -h now. Hopefully by the time I log back in, I'll have days worth of legally acquiring music ;)

[zaxer]

Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty

Black Sabbath - Paranoid

[Knome_fan]

Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (Must have)
Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground and Nico
Frank Zappa - You can't do that on stage anymore (all you can get your hands on)
Talking Heads - Stop making sense
Patti Smith - Land (Great best off)
John Cale - Fragments of a rainy season
Rolling Stones - Exile on Mainstreet
John Coltrane - Blue Train
McCoy Tyner - The Real McCoy
Dexter Gordon - Go
Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles + Future Shock
Sex Pistols - Never mind the bollocks
Dead Kennedys - Fresh fruit for rotting vegetables
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Million + Fear of a Black Planet
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around + At San Quentin

[poofyhairguy]

Fun thread:

sigur ros
--- Agætis Byrjun
--- ()

Wilco
-- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
-- Being There

Travis
-- Invisible Band
-- The Man Who

The Streets
-- Original Pirate Material
-- A Grand Don't Come Easy

Soundgarden
-- A Sides

The Roots
-- Phrenology

Radiohead
-- Amnesiac
-- Hail to the Theif
-- Kid A
-- OK Computer

Phish
-- Legal live stuff
-- Farmhouse
-- Round Room
-- Story of a Ghost

Nine Inch Nails
-- The Fragile
-- The Still
-- Pretty Hate Machine
-- The Downward Spiral

(My second fav)

Incubus
-- Make Yourself
-- Morning View

Immortal Technique
--Revolutionary vol 1. and 2.

The Flaming Lips
-- Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

Better Than Ezra
-- Closer

Ben Folds + Ben Folds Five
-- EVERYTHING (sorry to break rule)

Beck
-- Sea Change

The Beatles
-- Abbey Road
-- Let It Be
-- White Album

There. The best of my iPod.

[johneboy]

Hi Bored2K,

Here are a few of my favourites:

Ben Folds - Rockin' the suburbs
The Divine Comedy - Casanova
Sneaker Pimps - Becoming X
Eels - Beautiful Freak
Fountains of Wayne - Welcome interstate managers
Har Mar Superstar - You can feel me
The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi battles the pink robots

Regards

John

[CospeFogo]

Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses
Focus - Moving Waves
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Renaissance - Prologue
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery

A little prog rock for you.

[jeremy]

As a Jazz buff, I second John Coltrane - Blue Trane, and would like to add a few:

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
George Russell - Ezz-Thetics (not so well known, but EXCELLENT)
Art Ensemble of Chicago - The Third Decade
Chick Corea - Return to Forever (Return to Forever is the name of the album, on ECM records, they later formed a group with the same name, also good, but this album is the best)

[zaxer]

I think we have to add to this list two of the best selling albums ever.

The Eagles - Best Of
Michael Jackson - Thriller

[zaxer]

This are all a musthave... taken from (http://newmexiken.com/archives/2005/01/004527.php)

28 Million

* Eagles Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975, Eagles (Elektra)

26 Million

* Thriller, Michael Jackson (Epic)

23 Million

* The Wall, Pink Floyd (Columbia)

22 Million

* Led Zeppelin IV, Led Zeppelin (Swan Song)

21 Million

* Greatest Hits Volumes I & II, Billy Joel (Columbia)

19 Million

* Rumours, Fleetwood Mac (Warner Bros.)
* Back in Black, AC/DC (Elektra)
* The Beatles, The Beatles (Capitol)
* Come On Over, Shania Twain (Mercury Nashville)

17 Million

* Boston, Boston (Epic)
* The Bodyguard (Soundtrack), Whitney Houston (Arista)

16 Million

* Cracked Rear View, Hootie & the Blowfish (Atlantic)
* Greatest Hits, Elton John (Rocket)
* Hotel California, Eagles (Elektra)
* The Beatles 1967–1970, The Beatles (Capitol)
* No Fences, Garth Brooks (Capitol Nashville)
* Jagged Little Pill, Alanis Morissette (Maverick)

15 Million

* Born in the U.S.A., Bruce Springsteen (Columbia)
* Physical Graffiti, Led Zeppelin (Swan Song)
* Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd (Capitol)
* Saturday Night Fever (Soundtrack), Bee Gees (Polydor/Atlas)
* The Beatles 1962–1966, The Beatles (Capitol)
* Appetite for Destruction, Guns 'N Roses (Geffen)
* Double Live, Garth Brooks (Capitol Nashville)

[weekend warrior]

Another vote here for jazz, if you want music "culture" this is where you go. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002ADT/qid=1117105496/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/002-6963372-6030431?v=glance&s=music&n=507846). For Coltrane, I would add Giant Steps (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002I4S/qid=1117105408/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl15/002-6963372-6030431?v=glance&s=music&n=507846) to Blue Train (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000005H7D/ref=m_art_li_3/002-6963372-6030431?v=glance&s=music). Have a listen at the links. There is simply nothing more cool than listening to the great jazz masters while computing away on Linux 8-)

[Grue]

On the more funky side of rock:

Primus - Frizzle Fry
Infectious Grooves - Groove Family Cyco/Snapped Lika Mutha
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Blood sugar sex magik (This was from before they completely sold out)

Gothic Metal:

Xandria - Kill the Sun
Within Temptation - Mother Earth
Nightwish - Century Child

Celtic/Bagpipes and that sort of thing:

Wolfstone - Not Enough Shouting
Furunkulus Bladilo - Anything (this is very hard to come by, but _very_ nice)
Clannad - Banba

Rock / Metal / the rest:

Buckethead - Giant Robot
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
In Flames - Reroute to Remain
Rammstein - Herzeleid
Ween - The Mollusk

I know I've missed a lot here, but this is imo some of the best music out there.

Nice idea for a thread ;).

[Havoc]

Hmmmm....I'll try to keep it smooth...Nothing TOO heavy...Ok?

Here Goes:

From Hard Rock (And Metal) I recommend:

Rainbow - Rainbow Rising (1976)

Great Album, with powerfull songs all around.

Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny (1976)

Probably one of the best of JP...Try it out.

Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972)

Psychedelic till you drop.Great Performances all around.

Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell (1980)

Probably a bit heavier than the last ones, but It's probably one of the best Black Sabbath have to offer.Get it.Same singer as in the Rainbow album (Dio).

Deep Purple - The Very Best of Deep Purple (???)

The greatest Deep Purple songs, compiled in one album.Need I say more.Watch out for Stormbringer, Burn, Highway Star, Child In Time, Hush, they're hot.

And, for those moments you need something harder, but still melodic, try these two:

Iron Maiden - Killers (1981)

One of the best of Iron Maiden.Full with great songs.

Judas Priest - Stained Class (1978 )

A milestone for Heavy Metal.Although other bands were thrashing those years, this is filled to the brim with breathtaking solos, not to mention the high-pitched voice or Rob Halford.Great songwriting, great everything.This should definetely be on your wish list.

As a disclaimer, I'd like to say that, even If I like these, you might not.Netherless, all albums I chose for your "Music Culturization" retain a high level of innovation and songwriting.And, I'm trying to be as objective as I can here.I wouldn't sit here for the last half-hour writing all of this, If it weren't worth it. :---)

Kudos :wink:

[zaxer]

And, for those moments you need something harder, but still melodic, try these two:

Iron Maiden - Killers (1981)

One of the best of Iron Maiden.Full with great songs.

Kudos :wink:

Great selection! :grin:

The only thing I would change is Killers for The Number Of The Beast or Powerslave.

WTF get all Iron Maiden (except Virtual XI and the other one with the other singer, I dont remember now...)

[sethmahoney]

The Decemberists, Her Majesty the Decemberists
and
Neutral Milk Hotel, In the Aeroplane over the Sea

[bored2k]

Ok thanks :D I'll try getting one album from each of you then go back and get more of the ones you posted. Keep 'em coming !

Where's the spanish love :-P ? I know zaxer digs Soda Estereo !

[zaxer]

Ok thanks :D I'll try getting one album from each of you then go back and get more of the ones you posted. Keep 'em coming !

Where's the spanish love :-P ? I know zaxer digs Soda Estereo !
HaHaHaHa

If you want some actual-good-pop/rock spanish music try "El Canto Del Loco".

They sound similar to a great 80's band called "Hombres G".

[bored2k]

HaHaHaHa

If you want some actual-good-pop/rock spanish music try "El Canto Del Loco".

They sound similar to a great 80's band called "Hombres G".
Lol weren't Hombres G the ones that sang " Las chicas no tienen Pilila" or something lol.

And what do you mean by "if you want actual good... music ?" Ceratti and his Soda owns every other spanish musical act..

[Lovechild]

Yay, I get to throw in my 2 eurocents

Rock'ish:
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
Swan Lee - Enter
Tim Christensen - Honeyburst
Alanis Morisette - Under rug swept

Metal'ish:
Pantera - Official Live 101 proof
Megadeth - Countdown to Extinction


Please zaxer record sales is not an indication of good music, on that scale Britney Spears would be excellent.. I guess she is, when muted.

[bored2k]

Yay, I get to throw in my 2 eurocents

Rock'ish:
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf

Please zaxer record sales is not an indication of good music, on that scale Britney Spears would be excellent.. I guess she is, when muted.

Wow I -so- have to get QOTSA !

I agree with Lovechild. Music quality shouldn't be measured by its sales. On that scale Mars.Volta/At.the.drive.in would be awful (oh they are so not). Heck, even Too_| would have to be considered a failure :-#

[zaxer]

Lol weren't Hombres G the ones that sang " Las chicas no tienen Pilila" or something lol.

And what do you mean by "if you want actual good... music ?" Ceratti and his Soda owns every other spanish musical act..

Yes they were :)

I meant music that is now been played in most radio stations.

[zaxer]

Please zaxer record sales is not an indication of good music, on that scale Britney Spears would be excellent.. I guess she is, when muted.

I know but I thought that It would be interesting for this post. At least we`re talking about music..

[bored2k]

I know but I thought that It would be interesting for this post. At least we`re talking about music..
I was quite amazed to see Alanis Morissette in that list. I always thought of her as the "anti-mainstream".

[nobodysbusiness]

If you want to be really cool, though, you should get into some small-time indie musicians, so that years from now you can say "I liked that band since before they were cool... but now they're popular so they suck."

One of my favorite indie musicians is Celldweller (http://cdbaby.com/cd/celldweller). You can get samples of the songs or buy their album of the same name from the link above. The genre is a bit hard to describe. Something like metal crossed with techno. Anyway, it's really good, so I suggest you give it a try.

[bored2k]

If you want to be really cool, though, you should get into some small-time indie musicians, so that years from now you can say "I liked that band since before they were cool... but now they're popular so they suck."

I don't want to be cool. I just want good music. It does not appeal to me to simply act superior just because I heard X band before they hit their -15 minutes of vice..er fame-. Pink Floyd sold over 20 million copies ? I had never listened to their music until today, and I don't think that has nothing to do with coolness. I heard Maroon five's Song About Jane way before Grammy 2005 ignorants decided to call a 2002 album "new artist", and that does not make me any less of a boring hermit.

And what is with the "they're popular so they suck?". Musicians love music. They also love money. A lot. They also have a family to maintain.
So Metallica sucks because they got mainstream? Santana after years of being underrated hits it big and he sucks? Norah Jones by 1997 had two "Best Jazz Vocalist" awards, so because she got big she sucks? Same with TOOL ?! An Eminem/Jay-Z/Doc'Dre(watchout for D-Tox) album comes out and its instant platinum. Does this mean they suck? I double-dare you to name better rap performers/producers than them.


I greatly dislike when people just go "Oh he's pop now he sucks."


..D'autre part, unknown music does not mean its good nor bad, so I might give that one a try.

[tread]

I second

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
.. you must really listen to that if you want to listen to jazz at all.
Also,

Al DiMeola - Friday Night in San Francisco.

[bored2k]

I second

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
.. you must really listen to that if you want to listen to jazz at all.
Also,

Al DiMeola - Friday Night in San Francisco.
Check the first post, I already got Kind of Blue ;). I'm listening it right now. It's great :D

[karmah]

David Lindley - El rayo X - rock, reggae, pop kinda..
Looptroop - The Struggle Continues (omg, listened to it for years now...) - Hiphop
Toots and the maytals - No album name sorry - reggae
Nifflas - http://nifflas.ni2.se/music/index.php - Jazz kind of
hmm...i know more but im confused right now :/

[poster_nutbag]

Well, you said you wanted different, I and see that no-one on this thread has mentioned the most succesfull live band ever, *The Grateful Dead*. Since 90% of their recorded music is legally avaliable on the net, free, at this site (http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?cat=Grateful%20Dead) , I can direct you to some excellent places in there right now, save you all the trouble of spending money, etc...

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12059

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12308

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=16033

All of these web pages allow you to stream the music, so give it a go

Have fun, and let me know what you think!

[weekend warrior]

That's great you like Miles Davis. Did you know that jazz is the Linux of music?
Let's see if you or anybody else reading can figure out why before I post the reasons ;-)

Give us a shout if you want more Miles, looks like there are a fair few of us jazz cats round here :cool:

[bored2k]

That's great you like Miles Davis. Did you know that jazz is the Linux of music?
Let's see if you or anybody else reading can figure out why before I post the reasons ;-)

Give us a shout if you want more Miles, looks like there are a fair few of us jazz cats round here :cool:

*Shouts*

I have no idea how it could be related to Linux, but I do know it was originated and perfectioned by *us* the african americans. I like its improvisations, free-stylin' and the fact that it is FUBU music (For Us, By Us). It has a sentimental tone in it that draws me to it. Plus, with it, God knows how would have music evolved without it (a gazillion genres would have never been born.. specially latin music).

[TravisNewman]

bored, just IM me sometime and we'll chat about music. I don't want to flood your thread ;)

Seriously, you know I can get quite long winded. Just telling you my favorite albums of all time would take up about 30 minutes of writing time :)

[thorN]

Bored2k, I find it offensive and disgusting that you consider Jazz for "for you" in some way.
Does that mean I have less right to listen to or create this music, because I'm not African American? Do I have your permission to use this style at all?

I agree with weekend warrior, Jazz could be the Linux of music, precisely because it's open, free to interpretation and it can be modified through improvisation.

I'm sorry if I've misunderstood you, but the sentimental tone that draws you in can be felt by others too - remember that music, in the long run, is outside of any cultural/historical ties to any group of people.

--
Edit: Now I've cooled down:

P.S.: I appreciate the immense effect Jazz has and continues to have on music. I agree, there'd be no Rock music, and the Ska music I love wouldn't be around.

[bored2k]

Bored2k, I find it offensive and disgusting that you consider Jazz for "for you" in some way.
Does that mean I have less right to listen to or create this music, because I'm not African American? Do I have your permission to use this style at all?

I agree with weekend warrior, Jazz could be the Linux of music, precisely because it's open, free to interpretation and it can be modified through improvisation.

I'm sorry if I've misunderstoof you, but the sentimental tone that draws you in can be felt by others too - remember that music, in the long run, is outside of any cultural/historical ties to any group of people.

--
Edit: Now I've cooled down:

P.S.: I appreciate the immense effect Jazz has and continues to have on music. I agree, there'd be no Rock music, and the Ska music I love wouldn't be around.
I did not mean to offend anyone nor say your not Y so you cant listen to Y's music. Everyone is completely capable of tweaking it as they please. My "FUBU" point was that no matter who you are or where you live in, a live jazz session just sounds native and homemade, wich makes us all feel good. Do not mix my "originated by african americans" -history- sentence with that one, because they contain different ideas.

[thorN]

Ah great, I understand.

I agree, too, Jazz has that feel about it - just like Linux - it's homebrew.

[bored2k]

Ah great, I understand.

I agree, too, Jazz has that feel about it - just like Linux - it's homebrew.
Great, so that's settled :D.

Ok so someone promised me more Jazz albums if I shouted wich I did. BTW I try to listen to jazz/clasical everyonce in a while on the radio, but it's annoying how I am not able to say "Oh that's a great one!" or "I love that performer!/ Wow old one!" .. wich is why I'm trying to get into it ;).

[TravisNewman]

Louis Armstrong. My god that man has soul. If you're looking for jazz, Louis is the best in my book. I don't have any album titles because I've never seen an album that wasn't just a compilation, but I went into a Discovery Channel Store and bout the best one ever. It's Called "Louis Armstrong's All Time Greatest Hits" though there are probably about 5 different albums of the same title.

[weekend warrior]

Good to see you didn't get in a tustle boys :wink: Jazz is a multi-platform OS. It can be understood and enjoyed by anybody. You don't need any special hardware (language or culture) to "run it" :)

You both got parts of the Linux analogy, there are actually a number of reasons if you think about it but thorN got the big one I was thinking of. Jazz is 100% GPL baby ;-) Any cat can take a jazz standard and do their "take" on it and improvise any way they want. There's no EULA, no royalties, no getting a license or asking permission from anyone. Open source music at it's best.

Hang on a moment bored2k, I'll link you up to a couple of great Miles albums....

[weekend warrior]

Shout and you shall receive ;-)

Ok, Miles Davis is like Picasso. He went through different "phases". If you want to understand him and where Kind of Blue came from, I would recommend rewinding about 9 years to 1950 with Birth of the Cool (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005614M/qid=1117148913/sr=8-3/ref=pd_csp_3/102-5661821-0558528?v=glance&s=music&n=507846) It's different - more structured, shorter pieces but you can hear where he'll be in a few years with Kind of Blue.

Or you could also jump ahead to something like Miles Smiles (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000DCH1/qid=1117149204/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/102-5661821-0558528?v=glance&s=music&n=507846) if you prefer the freer improv feeling. Either way you can't go wrong. Have a listen at the links. Share and enjoy!

Jazz is like coffee, once you've had that first yummy sip you just want more and more :grin:

[bored2k]

Shout and you shall receive ;-)

Ok, Miles Davis is like Picasso. He went through different "phases". If you want to understand him and where Kind of Blue came from, I would recommend rewinding about 9 years to 1950 with Birth of the Cool (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005614M/qid=1117148913/sr=8-3/ref=pd_csp_3/102-5661821-0558528?v=glance&s=music&n=507846) It's different - more structured, shorter pieces but you can hear where he'll be in a few years with Kind of Blue.

Or you could also jump ahead to something like Miles Smiles (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000DCH1/qid=1117149204/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/102-5661821-0558528?v=glance&s=music&n=507846) if you prefer the freer improv feeling. Either way you can't go wrong. Have a listen at the links. Share and enjoy!

Jazz is like coffee, once you've had that first yummy sip you just want more and more :grin:
Wow.. most of you are now getting me into jazz :D. Domo Arigato ! I'll get those right after John Coltrane - Blue Train ;).

[thorN]

Bored2k, are you wanting to identify each artist's style as you hear them? Or just have an ear for a good tune in general?

If the former applies to you, get a Harddisk music player: you'll be able to listen to all kinds of music, and pinpoint artist/album at will.
I've found that in the year or so that I've owned an iPod, I've listened to music a LOT more, which is great.

For the second option: I'm not sure, but it seems to me that a knowledge of music theory might help?

[lloyd]

Lots of good stuff being mentioned here..

I would recommend:

Beck: Midnite Vultures + Sea Change

(Beck is an amazingly multi-talented artist, mixing his folk guitar style with electronics in experimentative and interesting ways, though his record contract allows for every other album to be pure folk rock (Sea Change is an example of the latter, Midnite Vultures of the former).

Ben Harper: The Will to Live

(Harper mixes bluegrass, blues, rock, funk.. almost everything together in a gentle organic fashion. His voice is also incredible).

Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man: Out of Season

(Beth Gibbons (from Portishead) with her first sorta solo album. Poetic, quiet and beautiful).

Bebel Gilberto: Tanto Tempo
(daughter of Brazilian bossanova legend Gil (who is defintely also worth checking out) - mellow and sweet-tempered, not unlike Norah Jones..)

Mano Chao: Clandestino

(Rebellious French-Spanish singer whose mix of folk and reggae is absolutely infectious)

Moloko: Statues

(difficult to pin down and describe this electronica-funk-??? band. All the songs on this record are excellent).

Morcheeba: Big Calm

(Mellow, laid back instrumental tracks brought to life by the incredible voice of the singer, Skye).

Mew: Frengers

(Danish rock band. Even if you don't like all of it, please, please listen to "Comforting Sounds" - it is one of my all time favourites).

Prince - try to get a greatest hits or something, he's put out so much music, it's getting difficult to keep track of.

(you've probably heard of him)

Bob Marley: Exodus

(and him too)

Rage Against The Machine: Rage Against The Machine

(Explosive, aggressive and eminently played. This record basically created the playing field for the later Nu-metal genre, at it is still unsurpassed. Rock on!)

Sigur Rós: ()

(ambient moods, an icelandic singer singing in his own made up language, dreamy symphonic sounds. Sounds weird but is the best album for leaning back and lose yourself in thought)

The Chemical Brothers: Dig Your Own Hole

(Will make you dance your little heart out. Big Beat electronica of the best kind)

Oh, and if you're up for exploring afro-american musical heritage, try these:

Robert Johnson's Greatest - 1930's Blues guitarist with so much skill and heart

Maceo Parker: Live on Planet Groove - James Brown's old saxophone player, it doesn't get any funkier than this...

Fela Kuti: (pick almost any album - it's all good) - the amazing Nigerian founder of the Afrobeat genre, mixing american funk with traditional west african rhythms.

Wow. A lot of music that is. I know that you're not likely to get to check out all of it, but some of this will certainly make nice alternatives to all that jazz... ;-)

[bored2k]

Great thanks :D
BTW, It's Manu Chao not Mano Chao ;). I love their Me Gustas Tu (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/manu-chao/me-gustas-tu.html) track (I'm a hispanic french student, so I gotta like them;)).


Loving the support !

[TravisNewman]

you probably won't get this one from anyone but me and kassetra ;):

Ani Difranco: Dilate

[bored2k]

you probably won't get this one from anyone but me and kassetra ;):

Ani Difranco: Dilate
That automatically moves it a few levels up on my queue list ;).

[thorN]

Hey bored2k, remember to leave some room on your playlist for stuff that isn't at all respected, but you like anyway.

In conclusion, Wheatus rule.

P.S.: I have no idea how much there is on the net (assuming that's where you're sourcing all this music) - but try listening to lots and lots of Beethoven. If you're slightly more leet, then Bach (but I like him less).

--
slightly updated list:

The Beatles - 1
Classic rock

Black Sabbath - Best Of
hard rock

David Bowie - Best Of
classic rock

Desmond Dekker - King of Ska
ska

Bob Dylan - Greatest Hits
guitar wielding hippy

Madness - Complete Madness
2nd wave ska, from the UK

Moldy Peaches - Moldy Peaches
Indie, by bratty american teens, somehow good

Operation Ivy - Operation Ivy
punk

Queen - Greatest Hits
brian may.

The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
post punkish

The Who - The Ultimate Collection
classic rock

[bored2k]

Hey bored2k, remember to leave some room on your playlist for stuff that isn't at all respected, but you like anyway.
Always ;)


P.S.: I have no idea how much there is on the net (assuming that's where you're sourcing all this music)Let's try to focus on the music ;) :-P

-
Here's something I'm amazed about: You all have mentioned several I'm sure great albums, but only one rap album has been said (by Knome_fan) - NWA - Straight Outta Compton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006JJ51/104-1023256-9697538?v=glance). This might not be of any interest to 99.98% of you all, but that and Dre's The Chronic album are two of the few respected by everyone rap albums. Who can forget lines like
"With so much drama in the L-B-C
It’s kinda hard bein snoop D-O-Double-G
But I, somehow, some way
Keep comin up with funky a** s** like every single day"

Now no one needs to tell me about that genre (oh no).. hehe.

[TravisNewman]

Bored2k-- you like Ben Folds, you like The Chronic-- you should get ahold of Ben Folds covering Dr. Dre's B****es Ain't ****

Edit: Snoop D-O-Double-H?

Snoop DOHH! It sounds like Homer Simpson :)

[bored2k]

Bored2k-- you like Ben Folds, you like The Chronic-- you should get ahold of Ben Folds covering Dr. Dre's B****es Ain't ****
Are you for real ? lol

[TravisNewman]

Are you for real ? lol
I am totally for real.

[bored2k]

I am totally for real.
O.o ok that's priority número 1 right now.. or at least for when I'm done studying math.. tomorrow :-s.

[bored2k]

Bored2k-- you like Ben Folds, you like The Chronic-- you should get ahold of Ben Folds covering Dr. Dre's B****es Ain't ****

Edit: Snoop D-O-Double-H?

Snoop DOHH! It sounds like Homer Simpson :)
I fixed it LOL ! They're next to each other..

Homer LOL

edit -- I intended to GIMP a Snopp Dogg/Homer picture, but I'm so tired and I need to go study some Math :@ so I owe you one ;)

[SparkyDawg]

Take off Dave Matthews Band.

You might want to check out Tool, if you haven't heard them, they're incredible.

You should also add some Zeppelin...

[bored2k]

Take off Dave Matthews Band.

You might want to check out Tool, if you haven't heard them, they're incredible.

You should also add some Zeppelin...
Take off DMB ? that's a huuuge nono.

Of course I've heard/had every single TOO_| track, but I'm looking for stuff I have not heard, not old favorites.

[SparkyDawg]

Take off DMB ? that's a huuuge nono.

Of course I've heard/had every single TOO_| track, but I'm looking for stuff I have not heard, not old favorites.


Heh heh, just a personal preference. I highly dislike DMB. If you're looking for things you havent heard...there's an acoustic rock band called Against Me, you might like them.

[TravisNewman]

SparkyDawg-- have you HEARD the new DMB? I practically loathed DMB until this album. But it's amazing. Totally amazing.

[TravisNewman]

Ooh ooh-- things you haven't heard. I KNOW you haven't heard Cowboy Mouth-- THE greatest band of all time. I'd suggest the album Easy but if you aren't getting these legitimately, I'm not sure you'll be able to find the full album. they are pretty underground, but every show I've been to is totally packed, and everyone is voiceless and sweating like a pig after the show, especially the band.

[SparkyDawg]

SparkyDawg-- have you HEARD the new DMB? I practically loathed DMB until this album. But it's amazing. Totally amazing.

Really? I'll have to listen to it. I've pretty much given up on DMB by their older albums, made me want to cut my ears out.

[lloyd]

It's Manu Chao not Mano Chao

damn, I knew that. Typing too fast for my own good...

When it comes to Rap, I think you managed to ignore The Roots. Personally, I don't like Phrenology much, but prefer "Do You Want More??!??!" - a truly excellent album..

Also good:

A Tribe Called Quest: Especially their first two albums..

De La Soul

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

and of course, Snoop Dogg: Doggy Style...

(the bluegrass band The Gourds have made a hilarious cover version of Snoop's Gin'n'Juice - I think they allow free comparative downloads off their site (http://www.thegourds.com/videos.html) .. )

[RastaMahata]

radiohead - the bends (the second cd... try it, you wont regret)

[MetalMusicAddict]

Just wonderin' bored2k, are you legally acquiring this music? Or are you being a pirate? I hope not. Ive come to respect you on these boards and as a HUGE music lover (not just Metal \m/) I would hate to think that you werent supporting at least SOME of the great artists mentioned in this thread.

As someone with over 1500 (actual) CDs in their collection heres a very short list of what Ill recommend.

A more "Metal" leaning. ;)
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Pitchshifter - www.pitchshifter.com
Meshuggah - Chaosphere
Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption
Mastodon - Remission

A little REAL Hip-Hop
ANYTHING by Aesop Rock
El-p - Fantastic Damage
Grayskul - Deadlivers

TONS of great Jazz, Rock and Indie Rock were mentioned so Ill not go there.
Like I said above this is a VERY short list

[bored2k]

When it comes to Rap, I think you managed to ignore The Roots. Personally, I don't like Phrenology much, but prefer "Do You Want More??!??!" - a truly excellent album..

Also good:

A Tribe Called Quest: Especially their first two albums..

De La Soul

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

and of course, Snoop Dogg: Doggy Style...

(the bluegrass band The Gourds have made a hilarious cover version of Snoop's Gin'n'Juice - I think they allow free comparative downloads off their site (http://www.thegourds.com/videos.html) .. )

I really don't think The Roots have any place in rap greatness. Flash, Snoop, Dre, Eazy-E, Ice Cube, Jay-Z, Nas, Eminem (dont need to mention 2pac nor biggie). They're all great at what they do, but Roots .. :/. I'll still try and get the album but..bleh

[RastaMahata]

Ok thanks :D I'll try getting one album from each of you then go back and get more of the ones you posted. Keep 'em coming !

Where's the spanish love :-P ? I know zaxer digs Soda Estereo !
los rodriguez - sin documentos
soda stereo - el ultimo concierto (last song from the 2nd cd = ++)
jarabe de palo - la flaca
los enanitos verdes - big bang

[bored2k]

los rodriguez - sin documentos
soda stereo - el ultimo concierto (last song from the 2nd cd = ++)
jarabe de palo - la flaca
los enanitos verdes - big bang
I can't believe I lost my original Chau Soda! discs!! I was looking for them and they just disappeared :'( ! I gave out my Heroes.del.Silencio discs but that's another story ;). Wow La Flaca.. that ROCKED. E.Verdes too. Don't know who Rodriguez are..

** I still cant believe I didnt go to that Ceratti concert in the Dominican Republic.. and the feds stopped Bunbury from performing (for his direct hachis references :/ --> yet they allow Reggaeton performers to do theyre stuff while people are openly selling weed in a baseball stadium and all you see is Tego Calderon's laser lights forming Drug icons..) :@

[RastaMahata]

!!! los rodriguez! it was Andres Calamaro's band! :P
"Dejame atravesar el viento sin documentos, que lo hare por el tiempo que tuvimos. Por que no queda salida por que pareces dormida, por que buscando tu sonrisa estaria toda mi vida. Quiero ser el unico que te muerda la boca, quiero saber que la vida contigo no va a terminar..."

Excelent song (los rodriguez - sin documentos), and excelent song of the same name.
Also, you might want to listen to these songs from them:
la milonga del marinero y el capitan
mi enfermedad
brindo
dulce condena
hace calor

[bored2k]

!!! los rodriguez! it was Andres Calamaro's band! :P
"Dejame atravesar el viento sin documentos, que lo hare por el tiempo que tuvimos. Por que no queda salida por que pareces dormida, por que buscando tu sonrisa estaria toda mi vida. Quiero ser el unico que te muerda la boca, quiero saber que la vida contigo no va a terminar..."

Excelent song (los rodriguez - sin documentos), and excelent song of the same name.
Also, you might want to listen to these songs from them:
la milonga del marinero y el capitan
mi enfermedad
brindo
dulce condena
hace calor
Uh... Calamaro was never popular in my country. Heck, dont even know him :o.

Wait.. I remember a friend of mine gave me one of the first mp3 discs I had ever seen containing "la milonga del marinero y el capitan".. old.

[xmastree]

Considering that Ubuntu means "I am what I am because of who we all are"
I reckon you should include Frank Zappa's "You are what you is"

:)

[bored2k]

Bored2k, are you wanting to identify each artist's style as you hear them? Or just have an ear for a good tune in general?

If the former applies to you, get a Harddisk music player: you'll be able to listen to all kinds of music, and pinpoint artist/album at will.
I've found that in the year or so that I've owned an iPod, I've listened to music a LOT more, which is great.

For the second option: I'm not sure, but it seems to me that a knowledge of music theory might help?

It's the first option :). I can easily identify a band just by the style even if I had never listened to track X, but that's for bands I know, wich is not the case with Jazz. I do want to get a HDD media player, but right now I'm short on Johnny (Ca$h).. :S

[Seti]

To add to some of the already mentioned fine artists:

(in no particular order)

Ulrich Scnhauss-A Strangely Isolated Place or Far Away Trains Passing By
My Bloody Valentine
Pixies
M83
Stereolab
Kraftwerk
Autechre
Ride
Cat Power
Yea Yea Yeah's
Aphex Twin
Boards of Canada
Orb
The Velvet Underground
Ramones
RunDMC

[bored2k]

To add to some of the already mentioned fine artists:

(in no particular order)

Ulrich Scnhauss-A Strangely Isolated Place or Far Away Trains Passing By
My Bloody Valentine
Pixies
M83
Stereolab
Kraftwerk
Autechre
Ride
Cat Power
Yea Yea Yeah's
Aphex Twin
Boards of Canada
Orb
The Velvet Underground
Ramones
RunDMC
I need album names please :D. I can't just guess wich album is great or not :/

[weekend warrior]

Originally Posted by bored2k
Wow.. most of you are now getting me into jazz . Domo Arigato ! I'll get those right after John Coltrane - Blue Train
Do itashimashite :) Coltrane is a whole other universe to explore. With Kind of Blue, Miles changed people's understanding of music using modes (modes go back to ancient Greece) instead of scales, chords and keys that most musicians in other music styles depend on. BTW that's another way jazz is like Linux. Jazz listeners aren't afraid to get their hands dirty by actually understanding the mechanics of what's going on inside a tune. On average, you'll find jazz buffs pretty knowledgable about the music, just like *nixers.

Anyway, Miles brought modal jazz out front with Kind of Blue, but Coltrane really pushed boundaries. He figured out you could play in any key at any time while improvising over chord changes. That just blew everyone away! Trane is unique and had an incredible understanding of what he was doing. That's yet another way jazz is like Linux. It's less popular, but its "coders" intimately know what they're doing - the theory, mechanics, technique etc and consistently turn out a first rate "distro".

Let us know what you think of Trane. He has a searching, emotional intensity that's all his own. Oh and don't panic (!) if he seems "out there" at first. Also don't worry If modes, keys and chords don't make sense yet. Like Linux (yes again!) jazz has a steeper learning curve. Remember how you felt when you started Linux? It takes time to really "get" jazz, but when you do it all clicks. For now just enjoy the coffee, mmm.... ;-)

I think it's admirable you're starting new and giving jazz a shot. Like Linux (again!!!) most people don't know what they're missing. Have fun with Miles and Trane :grin:

[weekend warrior]

You're going to need some "handbooks" for jazz. Here's your first intro "man" on modes and modal jazz (http://www.scena.org/lsm/sm8-3/Modal_Jazz.htm)

HTH

[SparkyDawg]

If you like Jazz, you should buy a Pat Matheeny album. Now.

[CospeFogo]

If you like Jazz, you should buy a Pat Matheeny album. Now.
Stan Getz.

[karmah]

:O omg i never thought the place where i would finally find people who listen to same kind of music as i do in a linux forum !!
too bad ska has become so rare nowadays...its cool music!

[TravisNewman]

Oh dear, how could I forget-- you NEED to hear The Who - Tommy

It will make more sense if you see the movie first, but this is some of the best music ever.

Also, I almost forgot, when you get Ani DiFranco, you can download it ;) The copyright note on the back of all her cds says something to the effect of "Unauthorized duplication, while never as good as the original, is sometimes necessary."

[bored2k]

Also, I almost forgot, when you get Ani DiFranco, you can download it ;) The copyright note on the back of all her cds says something to the effect of "Unauthorized duplication, while never as good as the original, is sometimes necessary."


Check my first post, it's already here ;).


http://img219.echo.cx/img219/3588/iknow8po.jpg

[TravisNewman]

rock on.

Now you need to get Tommy ;)

[bored2k]

rock on.

Now you need to get Tommy ;)
From that album, what was the movie you mentioned ?

Edit - Nevermind. IMDb +VH1 did the trick ;).

[bored2k]

Let us know what you think of Trane. He has a searching, emotional intensity that's all his own. Oh and don't panic (!) if he seems "out there" at first.

I enjoyed it thoroughly :). The "out of there" feeling is the fact why I liked it. I like those kind of "uptempo" jazz beats. Right now I can barely see any difference between Kind of Blue and Blue Train other than the speed, but I guess I'll eventually get it ;).

[weekend warrior]

I'm sure you will get it. If you liked these straight off you're a natural jazz cat. That's great news! :grin: Sounds like you'll prefer Hard Bop if you like the "on the edge out there" feeling.

This might help with the differences. Listen to how Miles and Trane phrase their notes. Put on Kind of Blue and listen to "So What" again. Pay attention to the rests, the spaces between the notes. It might feel strange if you've known mostly pop/rock music. But for Miles, what he didn't play was just as important as what he did. Listen carefully.... soooo what.....rest 2 3 4.....so what.......rest 2 3 4..... Listen to Miles' first solo - same thing, pay attention to the rests. Miles is more about the right note at the right time - hear it? Compare that to when Coltrane comes in with his solo and it's a flood of notes by comparison, like walls of sound!

Ok now put on Blue Train and listen to the title track to see what Trane does after the intro. There's a torrent of notes there too. It's pure energy and conviction! He's the preacher-man of jazz, Everything is open and laid bare. It's not the cool minimalism Miles has. That's pretty simplified but might help. Another way to think about it is Miles starts with an idea and finds the essential. Coltrane starts a small idea then expands and expands. Does that make sense? If not, don't worry, it''ll come with time and more listening.

In fact it'll become more obvious hearing Miles Smiles. Trane and Miles were going in different directions. Hear how laid back and minimalist Miles is now? Lots of freedom and room for improv there. Miles is in a totally different place, different phase. Later on you can check out Coltrane in Giant Steps (http://www.mp3.com/albums/104635/summary.html) to hear more of his "sheets of sound". Blue Train was what Coltrane liked best of his works so it was good to start with. Giant Steps (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002I4S/qid=1117223894/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-5661821-0558528), from the same year as Kind of Blue, really expands his ideas and underlines the differences that separated Miles and Trane.

HTH

Tell us what you hear after you try this. I bet you'll be ready then to start exploring the jazz universe/multiverse all on your own. :)

[weekend warrior]

BTW, forgot to mention - in that first mp3.com link to Giant Steps, make sure you click on the "bio" tab. There's good info on Coltrane there and has a "connections" list - influences, similar artists, who he played with, links etc. That's why I linked it.




PS and if you still don't hear differences after listening again, don't sweat it. Everything happens in its time. :)

[Lovechild]

Bob Dylan - Before the flood
Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
System of a down - Toxicity
System of a down - Mezmerize
(anything by those two bands really is good to be honest)
Am I blood - Agitation
A Perfect Circle - Mer de noms

[carlc]

If you like Pink Floyd, check out "Animals"

On a different note:

I love Digable Planets.

They have two cd's out, "Reachin' (A New Refutation Of Time And Space)" and "Blowout Comb", Both are great! :wink:

[TravisNewman]

the wallflowers just released a new album. Weird. I'm going to have to get that one. They're a good band to check out for some early-mid 90s rock.

Also, you really need to get Foo Fighters -- The Colour and the Shape.

[cdhotfire]

Gotta stick to your spanish ways man. (Opens up his 3 gig folder file, hmmm)

Joe Arroyo, any song from him is an instant classic. (No le pegue a la negra)

Oscar de Leon, Cuban, thats all i need to say.

Maybe Fulanito, because your from the Republic.:???:

Gilberto Santa Rosa, ya his good.

Los Van Van, Once again, Cuban style.

Juan Luis Guerra, gotta love this guy.

Ima stop here if not ima fill take like 20 pages.:|

But from what ive seen all you got is dam amercian music, and you live in a spanish country. You gotta at least have a few to refresh you spanish blood.:-\"

Good luck anyways

[timczer]

Some incredible music already mentioned. I second Lovechilds choice of System of a Downs Mezmerize, it is one of the best metal cd's in years. a must have. I have literally not stopped listening to that cd since I bought it.
A few others

AC/DC-Back in Black (sentimental favorite as the first album I ever bought)

Stevie Ray Vaughan-In Step blues guitar great, saw him in concert and I have never been so blown away by a musician in concert before or since.

Greenday -American Idiot Instant classic

U2- The Joshua Tree (I don't think I saw them any where on this list so far, hard to believe.) One moving song after another on this one.

Metallica -S&M Metallica classics done with an orchestra, live. Hard to imagine, but some of the songs they do will blow you away.

Rush -Moving Pictures One of my all time favorites, just about anything from their first decade or so was great (2112 as well).

Guns N' Roses -Appetite for Destruction goofy lead singer, but incredible metal album

Judas Priest -British Metal

Mentioned before but Radiohead -Ok Computer some really moving music

Queensryche -Rage for Order Really good concept album, great chops on the singer

Van Halen -5150 Ballads to rockers, Sammy Hagar and the boys nailed it.

Also would agree with the albums listed for Iron Maiden previously.

Pearl Jam -Ten or Vs. both are incredible

The Smashing Pumpkins -Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness a double album that doesn't seem too long.

Thinking about this list made me think about some stuff I haven't listened to in a long time. It will be a musical trip down memory lane all weekend. Thanks for the question, It was nice to think of some of these old friends.

[tread]

You're right .. I dunno how I didn't mention U2 .. and I own five albums! duh :D

[bored2k]

Gotta stick to your spanish ways man. (Opens up his 3 gig folder file, hmmm)

Joe Arroyo, any song from him is an instant classic. (No le pegue a la negra)

Oscar de Leon, Cuban, thats all i need to say.

Maybe Fulanito, because your from the Republic.:???:

Gilberto Santa Rosa, ya his good.

Los Van Van, Once again, Cuban style.

Juan Luis Guerra, gotta love this guy.

Ima stop here if not ima fill take like 20 pages.:|

But from what ive seen all you got is dam amercian music, and you live in a spanish country. You gotta at least have a few to refresh you spanish blood.:-\"

Good luck anywaysI don't like salsa and you know it. If you read the 90+ posts, these are respectable music, not Fulanito's type. I am hispanic and I know what salsa is and what it is not. Also I'm not looking for regional music, I just want the type of music I have been given by the other members. If that's not good music to you, I respect that, but to me it is.


But from what ive seen all you got is dam amercian music, and you live in a spanish country. You gotta at least have a few to refresh you spanish blood.:-\" First of all just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a damned type of music. If this offends me and I'm not even from the USA, I can't even imagine how others would feel. And second, America is a Continent, not a country. If you didn't know Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica and a gazillion other islands are part of America, so you and me are also americans, wich means you're saying your music is bad.

Good music trascends history, time and any type of ethnic group so stop your "harmless" racism ;). And just so you know, I greatly dislike 95+% of mainstream spanish acts out there. Not because they're spanish, but because they just aren't as good and most of them just try to emulate european/north-american acts, wich is why the most popular ones are porting they're music to english. On the other hand, Jazz and classical bands are great (Michael Camilo, Tomatito, Placido Domingo, etc).

"spanish blood" :? ? God only made men and women. Born dominican, french or african to me it's all the same. Last time I checked my blood was red, just like anyone else. Well.. Russell Crowe had blue blood in virtuosity..

Buddy I hope this doesn't sound like a rant but you just can't start offending people just because you don't share their same ideals.

[bored2k]

Greenday -American Idiot Instant classic

Metallica -S&M Metallica classics done with an orchestra, live. Hard to imagine, but some of the songs they do will blow you away. A friend gave me those 2 Metallica discs a while back in exchange for 'something' (I was a previous metallica fan). It rocks. Fuel, No Leaf Clover are the two I like the most.

Green Day.. it's green day, the 1st rock band I ever liked .

[Monchy]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this 1 cause i'm too tired to read 10 pages ;)

but check out the new Black Eyed Peas album "Monkey Business" when it comes out June 7th

[SparkyDawg]

I don't like salsa and you know it. If you read the 90+ posts, these are respectable music, not Fulanito's type. I am hispanic and I know what salsa is and what it's not. Also I'm not looking for regional music, I just want the type of music I have been given by the other members. If that's not good music to you, I respect that, but to me it is.

First of all just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a damned type of music. If this offends me and I'm not from the USA, I can't even imagine how others would feel. And second, America is a Continent, not a country. If you didn't know Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica and a gazillion other islands are in America, so you and me are also americans, wich means you're saying your music is bad.

Good music trascends history, time and any type of ethnic group so stop your "harmless" racism ;). And just so you know, I greatly dislike 95+% of mainstream spanish acts out there. Not because they're spanish, but because they just aren't as good and most of them just try to emulate european/north-american acts, wich is why the most popular ones are porting they're music to english. On the other hand, Jazz and classical bands are great (Michael Camilo, Tomatito, Placido Domingo, etc).

"spanish blood" :? ? God only made men and women. Born dominican, french or african to me it's all the same. Last time I checked my blood was red, just like anyone else. Well.. Russell Crowe had blue blood in virtuosity..

Buddy I hope this doesn't sound like a rant but you just can't start offending people just because you don't share their same ideals.

Wow! Nice post there. Anyways, back on topic. On the radio a couple nights ago I heard about an African 'hip-hop' group from Senegal. It's doesn't sound like rap/hip-hop if you're from the states though. It has a bit of reggae mixed in with it, I thought if was really good. If I could just find the band.. ](*,)

[Lovechild]

Oh and any album by Faithless is an instant classic, No Roots is my waepon of choice atm.

[cdhotfire]

I don't like salsa and you know it. If you read the 90+ posts, these are respectable music, not Fulanito's type. I am hispanic and I know what salsa is and what it is not. Also I'm not looking for regional music, I just want the type of music I have been given by the other members. If that's not good music to you, I respect that, but to me it is.

First of all just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a damned type of music. If this offends me and I'm not even from the USA, I can't even imagine how others would feel. And second, America is a Continent, not a country. If you didn't know Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica and a gazillion other islands are part of America, so you and me are also americans, wich means you're saying your music is bad.

Good music trascends history, time and any type of ethnic group so stop your "harmless" racism ;). And just so you know, I greatly dislike 95+% of mainstream spanish acts out there. Not because they're spanish, but because they just aren't as good and most of them just try to emulate european/north-american acts, wich is why the most popular ones are porting they're music to english. On the other hand, Jazz and classical bands are great (Michael Camilo, Tomatito, Placido Domingo, etc).

"spanish blood" :? ? God only made men and women. Born dominican, french or african to me it's all the same. Last time I checked my blood was red, just like anyone else. Well.. Russell Crowe had blue blood in virtuosity..

Buddy I hope this doesn't sound like a rant but you just can't start offending people just because you don't share their same ideals.

Im not gonna start a fight over this, but let me just say one thing. It was not meant to be offending, but if your gonna take everything i said to heart, then i can pretty much show you that most of the things you said were indeed wrong.

As said before, Good Luck.

[kassetra]

Im not gonna start a fight over this, but let me just say one thing. It was not meant to be offending, but if your gonna take everything i said to heart, then i can pretty much show you that most of the things you said were indeed wrong.

As said before, Good Luck.

First, I was going to ask you how bored2k's opinion of the music HE chooses to listen to can possibly be wrong, but that would just add fuel to the fire.

In short, whatever bored2k chooses to ask people in reference to his own musical collection is HIS OWN. If he doesn't choose to ask people for the types of music you have suggested, that is his choice - but I would ask that you not criticize his choices.

[cdhotfire]

First, I was going to ask you how bored2k's opinion of the music HE chooses to listen to can possibly be wrong, but that would just add fuel to the fire.

In short, whatever bored2k chooses to ask people in reference to his own musical collection is HIS OWN. If he doesn't choose to ask people for the types of music you have suggested, that is his choice - but I would ask that you not criticize his choices.

If you notice my post, i never said his opinion in music is wrong, all i said that if he is gonna take everything i say to heart, then i can pretty much harass his post like he did mine. All i did was offer MY opinion in music, does that mean im wrong?

I guess your post applies to bored2k also, as i said all i did was offer my music preferences, does that mean he has the right to critize it? if you can take a look at his post, you will see what i mean.

I understand what you mean, but wouldnt you aggree, he should have said something like, "Okay ill take a look at those", and thats the end, he would have to really do it.

But, i apologize if the way i went about it, was wrong.:???:

This is getting way off topic.

So how about some more peps give some suggestions of music to bored2k?

[Quest-Master]

Dream Theater
Images and Words
Scenes from a Memory

Opeth
Blackwater Park
Orchid

[thechitowncubs]

Beatles - Revolver

Amazing

[CospeFogo]

Beck - Mellow Gold. Very good and unusual.

[bored2k]

Allright thanks for everyone's input here :D !. It's been over 100 posts now and I think I have received enough suggestions. I'll eventually try and get every single album posted, but for now, thanks :D.