@ubuntuforums.org or @ubuntu.com jabber server

[RAV TUX]

I'm glad we have jids on the forum contact info but are there any jabber chat rooms for anything Ubuntu?
I would like to see Ubuntu or ubuntuforums.org officially host it's own Jabber Server.

so instead of using the @jabber.org or @gmail.com we would use @ubuntuforums.org or @ubuntu.com

[rnanaimo]

Yea I would switch to a Ubuntu flavoured jid if one was available.

[Polygon]

That would be cool

and one other question: if someone hosts a jabber chatroom on one server, can anyone join it (even if their account is on another server)?

[RAV TUX]

split this topic into a new thread....I would like to see this concept become reality

I stickied this new thread in the cafe to get ubuntuforums.org member and staff participation and input on this idea

[BWF89]

Except to advertise our distro is there really any need for this?

[RAV TUX]

Except to advertise our distro is there really any need for this?to answer your question in short: yes.

do a little research here:



Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) :: Admin (http://www.jabber.org/admin/)
Take control! Jabber technology enables you to run your own IM service, whether you want to host a public server or keep your messages safely behind the firewall. Thousands of organizations all over the world have freed themselves from legacy IM providers by running their own Jabber servers. Why not join them? Here's how to get started:

List of Jabber server implementations (http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml)
Open-source server comparison chart (http://www.jabber.org/admin/jsc/)
Script Repository (http://scriptrepo.jabberstudio.org/) (very helpful!)
List of add-on components (http://www.jabber.org/software/components.shtml)
JADMIN mailing list (http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jadmin/) for server adminshttp://www.jabber.org/admin/

see open-source server comparison chart (http://www.jabber.org/admin/jsc/)

and refer to more 411 about Jabber here:


Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) :: About (http://www.jabber.org/about/) :: Overview
Jabber 1. Rapid and indistinct speech
2. To talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
3. A streaming XML technology mainly used for instant messaging
Jabber is best known as "the Linux of instant messaging" -- an open, secure, ad-free alternative to consumer IM services like AIM, ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo (see the IM quickstart (http://www.jabber.org/user/quickstart.shtml)). Under the hood, Jabber is a set of streaming XML protocols (http://www.jabber.org/protocol/) and technologies that enable any two entities on the Internet to exchange messages, presence, and other structured information in close to real time. Jabber technologies offer several key advantages:

Open -- the Jabber protocols are free, open, public, and easily understandable; in addition, multiple implementations exist for clients (http://www.jabber.org/software/clients.shtml), servers (http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml), components (http://www.jabber.org/software/components.shtml), and code libraries (http://www.jabber.org/software/libraries.shtml).
Standard -- the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF (http://www.ietf.org/)) has formalized the core XML streaming protocols as an approved instant messaging and presence technology under the name of XMPP (http://www.xmpp.org/), and the XMPP specifications have been published as RFC 3920 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3920.txt) and RFC 3921 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3921.txt).
Proven -- the first Jabber technologies were developed by Jeremie Miller (http://www.jabber.org/people/jer.shtml) in 1998 and are now quite stable; hundreds of developers are working on Jabber technologies, there are tens of thousands of Jabber servers running on the Internet today, and millions of people use Jabber for IM.
Decentralized -- the architecture of the Jabber network is similar to email; as a result, anyone can run their own Jabber server, enabling individuals and organizations to take control of their IM experience.
Secure -- any Jabber server may be isolated from the public Jabber network (e.g., on a company intranet), and robust security using SASL and TLS has been built into the core XMPP specifications.
Extensible -- using the power of XML namespaces, anyone can build custom functionality on top of the core protocols; to maintain interoperability, common extensions are managed by the Jabber Software Foundation (http://www.jabber.org/jsf/).
Flexible -- Jabber applications beyond IM include network management, content syndication, collaboration tools, file sharing, gaming, and remote systems monitoring.
Diverse -- a wide range of companies and open-source projects (http://www.jabberstudio.org/) use the Jabber protocols to build and deploy real-time applications and services; you will never get "locked in" when you use Jabber technologies.
To learn more or get started, you can:

Use Jabber for IM (http://www.jabber.org/user/)
Run a Jabber Server (http://www.jabber.org/admin/)
Write Jabber Software (http://www.jabber.org/developer/)
Read the Technical Overview (http://www.jabber.org/about/techover.shtml) Last Updated: 2005-01-26
http://www.jabber.org/about/overview.shtml

but honestly asking if there is any use for a Jabber server would almost be like a bunch of Windows-only users asking themselves if there is any use for Linux....the answer of course is

only if you use it.

[Jenda]

I think we should first try to push for an ubuntu.com jabber server - it is more general, and thus might interest more users, and it also looks better.
However, I don't see anything wrong with an uf.org one. I don't think I'd use it, however.

[Tipo]

I agree with Jenda, an ubuntu.com server is much more straight forward; It does a better job of pushing Ubuntu, rather than the ubuntu forums. :)

[sanderella]

Great idea (although I don't understand the technical bits).:)

[RAV TUX]

I would like to see Ubuntu or ubuntuforums.org officially host it's own Jabber Server.

so instead of using the @jabber.org or @gmail.com we would use @ubuntuforums.org or @ubuntu.com


I think we should first try to push for an ubuntu.com jabber server - it is more general, and thus might interest more users, and it also looks better.
However, I don't see anything wrong with an uf.org one. I don't think I'd use it, however.


I agree with Jenda, an ubuntu.com server is much more straight forward; It does a better job of pushing Ubuntu, rather than the ubuntu forums. :)

+1 to @ubuntu.com

this is why I presented both options in the opening post

I have edited the thread title to reflect both options also