SPSS statistical software on Linux

[vishnukv]

I am a newbie to Linux community. Can someone tell me how to run proprietary software like SPSS, which runs on windows or Mac, on a Linux system. If I can run SPSS on Linux then my migration to Linux would be complete.
Thanks in advance.

[nocturn]

I am a newbie to Linux community. Can someone tell me how to run proprietary software like SPSS, which runs on windows or Mac, on a Linux system. If I can run SPSS on Linux then my migration to Linux would be complete.
Thanks in advance.

You can try the Windows version on WINE (free) or Crossover Office (commercial)
It would also be good if you could mail the company behind SPSS for a Linux version, if they have a Mac one, porting should be easy (OS X is Unix).

[vishnukv]

Thanks very much. I will try the company and also WINE if they give a negative reply.

[jasplund]

There´s some alternatives for linux though.

Salstat http://salstat.sourceforge.net/
PSPP http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/pspp.html
R http://www.r-project.org/
Macanova http://www.stat.umn.edu/macanova/

Some of them are in the repositories. I haven´t tried any of them tough

[MakubeX]

I had tried installing SPSS on Wine but it fails to run because it does a "network version/check stuff" and then it terminates afterwards.

I'm using Wine 20050725 and Ubuntu 5.10.

I had also installed it using Cedega/CrossOver but fails to execute in the production of graphs/charts.. (it crashes at this point). I can read/open/write data (.sav files) but it is only at the graph generation part that the program hangs.

Anyone here who had successfully generated this SPSS feature in Linux?

[towsonu2003]

there is pspp, which is an open version of spss, but under development. There is also the R (link was above, program is in repos / synaptic) which I believe is very well knwn.

I dont have time to try out these (my adviser would kill me) but I really would like to learn your experiences if you decide to try them...

PS. I would advise you to prefer linux native software (works easier) instead of spss, if you have time to run and learn it of course.

[Jengu]

I'm using Wine 20050725 and Ubuntu 5.10.


That version of wine is ancient. Type the following into the console:

sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

And then copy and paste these two lines to the bottom of the file and save it:

deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/

The next time your system checks for updates, it should notice there's a newer version of wine available. If you want to do it immediately instead of waiting for it to catch on, put this in the console:

sudo apt-get update

Then when it's done:

sudo apt-get upgrade

When prompted if you're sure you want to upgrade, press "y" for yes and hit enter.

[towsonu2003]

what did you end up doing? Still trying to run SPSS trhu Wine, or are you trying linux native statistics packages? If the second, I am very interested in hearing your feedback... thanks.

[devnulljp]

I'd be interested in this too - looks like codeweavers isn't supporting spss, and as noted above it's preferable to use something that's linux-native anyway.

[turezky]

It seems that there exists SPSS15 for Linux, though it has no graphical interface :(
Any more suggestions about analogies???

[pmasiar]

There is another alternative: R (http://www.r-project.org/). It has convenient Python bindings RPy, so you can process files in Python, then switch to R to heavy-duty number-crunching. Best of both worlds!

[raja]

R. Takes some time to get used to it, but more flexible than SPSS once you get it.

[pmasiar]

... and R is also fully open-source. I was very frustrated by SPSS gaps in documentation, and lack of efforts to fix it properly.

A help page about importing Excel datasheet was missing, and it was known error, but knowledgebase at website instead of posting original (missing) help page just explained it's content in 2 rather vague and unhelpful sentences. R has incredible amount of external libraries for all kinds of analysis, is same on Win and linux, and GPL: once you learn it, you can keep using it forever.

[fabietto0102]

Hi,
I installed Wine, the latest version for Ubuntu 7.04, and then installed SPSS (student version, I guess) and it worked fine, at least for the few options I needed (Analysis > Explore, etc..).
This is a good news as it means Wine works indeed!

Damn me and my curiosity, I did some experiments and ended up reformatting the HD..

I re-installed everything as was before and now SPSS asks me for a licence which never did before.
Can someone please advise how I could *completely* remove Wine, SPSS, files with registration codes etc to start over again?

Would you raccomend R, btw?

Thanks
Fabietto0102
MacBook (newest)+ Ubuntu 7.04

[pmasiar]

Would you raccomend R, btw?

I would recommend R. It is about same league as SPSS, but because it is open source, there are many many modules for it written by academia researchers. I know bioinformatics use it a lot - couple projects for genetics and stuff.

Another good feature R has is: there are python bindings for R, RPy. So you can read your files and get data, then process them in R, get results and process them in Python. Python is *much* simpler and user-friendly scripting language than either SPPS or R have natively.

And because R is free/opensource, you can have it anywhere, you don't need to switch and relearn when changing jobs etc.

[tommie74]

I have installed SPSS 11.5 under codeweavers cxoffice 6.1.0. (commercial version of wine). I used the same botlle (virtual windwos c: disk) that I installed office 2000 on. Everything seems to work allright except for the graph functions. I can can load data, analyze it, produce tables with output etc. Only producing graphs seems problematic. The install is going smoothly, asking for a serial etc.
So if you can miss graphs, SPSS seems to work allright. The more people us SPSS with cxoffice, the bigger the chance that they will start support on it.
Greetings,
Thomas.

[fabietto0102]

Thank you pmasiar,

I understand and truly believe R is 10 times better than SPSS, however for a newbie like me it's too difficult to install :( ; say, it's not like installing skype... Unfortunately many things are given for granted by IT experts, and unless it's clearly explained step by step, much will be abandoned. I tried wine again and seems to work, so I'm fine for now.

I'll wait for the time when R is downloadable out of the box from synaptic., nice and easy!

[raja]

Thank you pmasiar,

I understand and truly believe R is 10 times better than SPSS, however for a newbie like me it's too difficult to install :( ; say, it's not like installing skype... Unfortunately many things are given for granted by IT experts, and unless it's clearly explained step by step, much will be abandoned. I tried wine again and seems to work, so I'm fine for now.

I'll wait for the time when R is downloadable out of the box from synaptic., nice and easy!

fabietto,
I can understand if you say that R is more difficult to use than SPSS. However, what gave the idea that is more difficult to install. It is in the Ubuntu repos (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/math/r-base) (Universe). For the latest version, you can even get it directly from CRAN who specifically support Ubuntu (http://www.insecta.ufv.br/CRAN/bin/linux/ubuntu/).
No IT experts needed - Just do

sudo aptitude install r-base

[pmasiar]

... and then check r-cran modules available to you (at least 20 or 30) and rejoice! That's the whole point using debian: you don't need to install from sources!

[UbuWu]

Checkout RKWard (http://rkward.sourceforge.net/) for an easy to use, transparent frontend to R. It is very similar to SPSS.

[raja]

RKward is still early in development. So it still has very limited functionality and is buggy and prone to crash. Dont try it hoping to find an equivalent to SPSS !

[Arwen]

Hello!Can anyone tell me what to download from here (http://rm.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/CRAN/)?And how to install R?
Thank you

[pmasiar]

as I replied before, use synaptic to install R.

[nanotube]

Hello!Can anyone tell me what to download from here (http://rm.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/CRAN/)?And how to install R?
Thank you

R is in the repositories. install packages "r-base" and "r-recommended", using synaptic or your favorite package manager. no need to download anything from websites. that should get you started.:)

[nanotube]

I would recommend R. It is about same league as SPSS, ....

i'd beg to differ - R is in a way higher league than SPSS. SPSS is limited to whatever stat analysis tools they chose to put into the gui menus. on R you can do whatever you want, there are many many more analysis tools available in the cran packages, and you can even write your own. Only thing is that it's missing the "friendly gui", but in terms of power, it is better.

p.s. (did you totally dig how i trimmed the quote? :) )

[pmasiar]

i'd beg to differ - R is in a way higher league than SPSS.

I agree. I should say "R is at least as good as SPSS". But was afraid to over-embellish R. :-)


(did you totally dig how i trimmed the quote? :)

Yup, I like it. In couple years :-) , maybe most people will trim. I hope... :-/

[nanotube]

I agree. I should say "R is at least as good as SPSS". But was afraid to over-embellish R. :-)

hehe is that even possible? well yea, i guess it is... but it's hard to do. ;)



Yup, I like it. In couple years :-) , maybe most people will trim. I hope... :-/

my future-radar says: doubtful. oh well. ;)

[gnuman]

i'd beg to differ - R is in a way higher league than SPSS. SPSS is limited to whatever stat analysis tools they chose to put into the gui menus. on R you can do whatever you want, there are many many more analysis tools available in the cran packages, and you can even write your own. Only thing is that it's missing the "friendly gui", but in terms of power, it is better.



I'm having to use SAS in a statistical programming class--it's required. Anyway, I have R installed, along with the R commander, both of which are in the synaptic pkg manager. I do my assignments in SAS, impress the instructor, and then come home to R, which I plan on using long after my "limited lease" on SAS runs out.

R commander is a very friendly GUI, IMHO:

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/Misc/Rcmdr/

[larytet]

SPSS does not work with WINE

but I ran Win2000 under Qemu and installed SPSS
as a bonus i can use evaluation version forever - Qemu allows to save "snapshots" of the OS in so called ovl (overlay) files

[daynah]

I can't figure out how to get R to run. I have r-base and r-base core installed but when I type them in terminal it says they arent a command. RKWard says I don't have r-base-core installed, though apt-get says it's to the highest.

And SPSS wouldn't even install. Suggestions?

[ovis.bp]

hi,

i have to use SPSS at university, and i can get it temp. for free from the univ, but i use ubuntu mostly, so at one side i also have windows on my computer only for this... (i have to send always syntax and output files to the teachers so i can't really change this)

but on the other hand i am a bit fed up with windows so i decided looking for something else. Also because i can only get SPSS for each half year.

i installed R-base (from the terminal) but i am too new at the whole thing (i mean dealing with linux generally) and now i don't find where did this put it...

i am also thinking about using PSPP that must be very similar to SPSS. One of the most important thing is that it should be somehow compatible with .sav files both ways (opening it and saving it like that) without loosing any data on the way of transformation:)

and it would be also good if i could use the same language that i am used to in spss syntax. (also because i am not really good in spss, and how they teach it in school is a bit like copy-pasting all the time, so they give routine but not really knowledge... it's mass education, that's what they can do...

so anyway, is there anyone who's using PSPP in ubuntu? or R? how can i find it if it's not in the applications, but i already installed it?

[nanotube]

I can't figure out how to get R to run. I have r-base and r-base core installed but when I type them in terminal it says they arent a command. RKWard says I don't have r-base-core installed, though apt-get says it's to the highest.

And SPSS wouldn't even install. Suggestions?

to start R, use command "R" (without quotes) :)

[pmasiar]

Even if you have SPSS free in uni, the time you spent learning is half-wasted if you switch to R. Learn R and be done with it, you can continue using it for the rest of your life, for free.

Of course it depends if your profs are open to learn something new, or they insist of you learning SPSS, because thay are too lazy/busy learning R.

[ovis.bp]

can i open an spss data file (*.sav) with R? how?

i tried it, read the manual and saw this
type this read.table(file("file.dat", encoding="latin1"))
so i tried like this

read.spss(file("/home/ovis/egyetem/ESS_2005.sav", encoding="latin1"))
Error: could not find function "read.spss"

i looked a bit after it, and checked if i have the recommended package, and installed foreign package to see what happens but it occurred that it is already installed, so i don't know what did i do wrong... maybe i am wrong but it seems for me, that its not even that i typed something wrong, but the function doesn't work at all here...

i tried also PSPP but it couldn't open it, i don't know why.

it said something like this
PSPP> get /FILE='/home/ovis/egyetem/ESS_2005.sav'.
warning: /home/ovis/egyetem/ESS_2005.sav: Unrecognized record type 7, subtype
16 encountered in system file.
PSPP>

can you help in this?

[towsonu2003]

can i open an spss data file (*.sav) with R? how?


I really don't know much about R, but navigate (cd) to your R environment and


R
library(Rcmdr)

And you'll see a GUI open up. you'll be able to open the file using the menus. hope this helps

[nanotube]

can i open an spss data file (*.sav) with R? how?

i tried it, read the manual and saw this
type this read.table(file("file.dat", encoding="latin1"))
so i tried like this

read.spss(file("/home/ovis/egyetem/ESS_2005.sav", encoding="latin1"))
Error: could not find function "read.spss"

i looked a bit after it, and checked if i have the recommended package, and installed foreign package to see what happens but it occurred that it is already installed, so i don't know what did i do wrong... maybe i am wrong but it seems for me, that its not even that i typed something wrong, but the function doesn't work at all here...

i tried also PSPP but it couldn't open it, i don't know why.

it said something like this
PSPP> get /FILE='/home/ovis/egyetem/ESS_2005.sav'.
warning: /home/ovis/egyetem/ESS_2005.sav: Unrecognized record type 7, subtype
16 encountered in system file.
PSPP>

can you help in this?

you have to load the foreign library first:

library(foreign)
read.spss(blababla)

also, to get help on specifics of any command, try the "?":

?read.spss

[Psykotik]

SPSS for linux is out for a few months : http://www.spss.com/stores/1/SPSS_reg_Base_16_0_for_Linux_r_P7919C91.cfm

But it is not compatible with compiz, you have to deactivate it to run spss.

[retrow]

Personally I don't have any need for SPSS (so far) but one of my friend in health behaviour wants use do data analysis which has been traditionally done on SPSS in most universities. She has never used Linux in her life, and I was wondering whether it would be a wise move to recommend R to her as it would save her the trouble of being bound to department computers to do her data analysis. Would it benefit her in the long run if I help her in installing Linux on her computer and then R and after showing her how to fire up the program, just cut her loose.

We are looking at a potential convert here guys (and potential "tech help" and ensuing dates for me) :lol:

[pmasiar]

She can use R on Windows now, and switch to Linux later when ready. Still better get used to Free R than to be shackled by non-free software.

To get extra date, you can teach her Python and RPy to simplify data processing :-)

[nanotube]

She can use R on Windows now, and switch to Linux later when ready. Still better get used to Free R than to be shackled by non-free software.

To get extra date, you can teach her Python and RPy to simplify data processing :-)

offtopic, but since you brought it up, i thought i might as well ask :)

i'm curious - since R is a full-fledged programming language in itself, what is the benefit of using rpy anyway? i am not sure i see the point of using rpy, when one can just as (more?) easily just use R? or are there particular types of problems where using R natively would not be as efficient?

and now for my on-topic comment: pmasiar is right, you don't need to switch operating systems in order to use R, it's just as possible to use it from win as from lin. also note that R does have a bit of a learning curve to it (although there are R guis to help one through). that said, if you /want/ to switch to linux, and are thinking "what am i going to do for my data analysis", then R is a very good choice.

[retrow]

She can use R on Windows now, and switch to Linux later when ready. Still better get used to Free R than to be shackled by non-free software.I offered to lend her my laptop on which I loaded R withRKWard and most of the recommended libraries. It would break my heart to disclose to her about the availability of R on Windows, so I will withhold that information unless she starts getting uncomfortable around Ubuntu (which I think is quite unlikely).


To get extra date, you can teach her Python and RPy to simplify data processing :-)Hehehe...Nice try. Geeks are cool in her book but I don't want to push my luck :lolflag:

[pmasiar]

since R is a full-fledged programming language in itself, what is the benefit of using rpy anyway? i am not sure i see the point of using rpy, when one can just as (more?) easily just use R? or are there particular types of problems where using R natively would not be as efficient?

R is good at statistic calculations. But often you need to process the file with data to be processed, filter, merge, etc, and R is bad at that part.

[pmasiar]

It would break my heart to disclose to her about the availability of R on Windows, so I will withhold that information

honesty is the best policy, IMHO. She will break your heart :-) when she finds out she could have used R on Windows with less confusion, which will inevitable happen at first attempt to google for R help.

You can explain her why free software is better, and why learning to use free software on windows (Firefox, OO.org, R, etc) is best training to be ready for a switch to Linux later. Like when she later wants to use decent but old laptop with 500MB RAM, good luck running Vista on it.

[nanotube]

R is good at statistic calculations. But often you need to process the file with data to be processed, filter, merge, etc, and R is bad at that part.

well, in my experience, R is quite eficient at filtering and merging data sets, more so than python could be.

e.g., to filter a dataset in R by say, one of the columns having some value or set there of, you could just do

filtered = mydata[mydata$var == "targetvalue",]

while in python one would have to loop over the data rows? it seems that if there is anything python is better at than R, it surely is /not/ filtering and merging, since R has specialized code to deal with vectors and data frames, while python does not.

got any other ideas (or refutations of what i just said)? :)

[nanotube]

honesty is the best policy, IMHO. She will break your heart :-) when she finds out she could have used R on Windows with less confusion, which will inevitable happen at first attempt to google for R help.

heh yea, deliberately withholding information seems like not the nicest thing to do... you would be honest, however, if you said that even though R is cross-platform, rkward is only available on linux, so of course linux is the best choice. :)

[retrow]

...however, if you said that even though R is cross-platform, rkward is only available on linux, so of course linux is the best choice. :)
Well said, and thanks a ton for show me that honesty AND Linux are the only ways to go :)
http://www.nolandgrab.org/images/Mr-Burns-Excellent.jpg

[CptPicard]

while in python one would have to loop over the data rows? it seems that if there is anything python is better at than R, it surely is /not/ filtering and merging, since R has specialized code to deal with vectors and data frames, while python does not.

Read up on Python's filter, map and list comprehensions. One-liners to transform, select and project your vectors. Having a preference for the functional style myself, I code Python almost exlusively in terms of list transformations and generators whenever I can.

[pmasiar]

while in python one would have to loop over the data rows? it seems that if there is anything python is better at than R, it surely is /not/ filtering and merging, since R has specialized code to deal with vectors and data frames, while python does not.

got any other ideas (or refutations of what i just said)? :)

Just recently I needed to create files for further processing, where in given directory I needed to find pairs of files (check naming convention if pair exists), and extract some columns to create one file for further processing. Or another example, two files with comparable data but using different IDs, merge them using ID mapping in another file.

Would you prefer to do it in R? R is good if data you have are ready to be processed, but to get them there, Python (as universal language) is much more flexible. To do statistics, R is better, because R is not focused in all those other things.

[nanotube]

Just recently I needed to create files for further processing, where in given directory I needed to find pairs of files (check naming convention if pair exists), and extract some columns to create one file for further processing. Or another example, two files with comparable data but using different IDs, merge them using ID mapping in another file.

Would you prefer to do it in R? R is good if data you have are ready to be processed, but to get them there, Python (as universal language) is much more flexible. To do statistics, R is better, because R is not focused in all those other things.

hm well, for the first case, pairs of files: extracting particular column out of the data R would be very good at, so yes, i'd use R.
for the second case, check out R's "merge" command - i would most definitely use R to merge the datasets. (first, merge file1 with the id mapping file by id, then merge the merged file1 with file2 using id2. basically a two-line operation.)

anyway... :) there are some things i have used python for instead of R, namely when i need to use some regexps on the data, (or when the operations i'm doing are complex enough that i have to loop line by line and do my thing anyway.) I am familiar with python's regexps, but from my brief look at R's regexps, they basically make you use grep, so i just stick with python.

but from the examples you give me, it seems that you should consider using R for more stuff. :)

[nanotube]

Read up on Python's filter, map and list comprehensions. One-liners to transform, select and project your vectors. Having a preference for the functional style myself, I code Python almost exlusively in terms of list transformations and generators whenever I can.

hm, i will look into filter and map, but i do know about list comprehensions... indeed they could serve for some data filtering needs. though not as conveniently as R, i must say. :)

also, what would be python's reperesentation of a data frame, anyway? seems like it would have to be a dict with lists as values. or for a matrix (no col names) a list of lists... for either of those, how easy would it be to select say, rows 10-20 of a data frame or matrix? surely not as easy as R's
mydataframe[10:20,] ?

off to look at map and filter...

[quill3033]

Also, the Student Graduate Pack of SPSS for linux is out now. It is being sent to me and I've returned a copy of the grad pack for Windows. Hope it works well. It says in the flyer that it only has been tested on Debian and RedHat, so I'll have to see how it works with Ubuntu 6.06.

[quill3033]

I'm finding R quite difficult to even get up and running, as in entering data etc. I'm only new to stats and just want to do basic stuff and it's a bit of a headache for me at the moment - trying to learn both stats and how to use the program. I got a textbook on R and I'll give it a go. I'm also using SPSS in Windows on a friend's computer (will get my grad pack for linux any day now).

[nanotube]

I'm finding R quite difficult to even get up and running, as in entering data etc. I'm only new to stats and just want to do basic stuff and it's a bit of a headache for me at the moment - trying to learn both stats and how to use the program. I got a textbook on R and I'll give it a go. I'm also using SPSS in Windows on a friend's computer (will get my grad pack for linux any day now).

well, R does take a bit of learning to get started on... the following tutorial may be very helpful (it was to me at the time):
http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-intro.pdf

[quill3033]

yep, I've got it. Trouble is I've got R-Commander and want to learn how to use that to import SPSS data but when I go to the relevant menu it doesn't seem to work.

And I'm torn between learning R from command line or using the other. I have bought the book by Michael Crawley but still going through to find 'how to use R'.

I've just had the SPSS Grad Pack for Linux delivered and I'm trying to install it. I'm thrilled! Hopefully it will work without a hitch.

Has anyone got this package and is using Ubuntu 6.06?

[nanotube]

yep, I've got it. Trouble is I've got R-Commander and want to learn how to use that to import SPSS data but when I go to the relevant menu it doesn't seem to work.

And I'm torn between learning R from command line or using the other. I have bought the book by Michael Crawley but still going through to find 'how to use R'.

I've just had the SPSS Grad Pack for Linux delivered and I'm trying to install it. I'm thrilled! Hopefully it will work without a hitch.

Has anyone got this package and is using Ubuntu 6.06?

just learn R, in the long run, if you do any statistics work, it will be learning well spent. :)

but really, whatever works, if you already have spss and you know how to use it...

[quill3033]

just learn R, in the long run, if you do any statistics work, it will be learning well spent. :)

but really, whatever works, if you already have spss and you know how to use it...

Really I only have to do stats for my psychology degree and may never use it again other than to read research. I do like SPSS for my very basic purposes.

It seems to me that people who like R are further up the food chain in terms of stats - they use it for their work etc. and maybe even write programs etc.

I am enjoying how SPSS (using Windows version on friend's computer) makes pretty graphs out of anything..

I would like to be able to operate R just for the hell of it - it's a challenge :-)

And they seem to have great data sets. ( can see them but don't know what to do with them yet!!! :lolflag:

Still haven't installed Linux version of SPSS. Just looking on the help page of Ubuntu for instructions for installing from cd. I hope instructions are not just for 7.10 .... I really really like 6.06

[quill3033]

ok,i've installed it. it says it is in

/opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP but I can't fine it anywhere in the Applications menu and typing SPSS in a terminal window has no effect whatsoever. When i typ the thing above

/opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP

it says that it is a directory... I still don't have handle as to where things are and the whole file management program management thing.

And I can't seem to find a manual that goes through it all.

Help if anyone has an answer to either question.

[nanotube]

ok,i've installed it. it says it is in

/opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP but I can't fine it anywhere in the Applications menu and typing SPSS in a terminal window has no effect whatsoever. When i typ the thing above

/opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP

it says that it is a directory... I still don't have handle as to where things are and the whole file management program management thing.

And I can't seem to find a manual that goes through it all.

Help if anyone has an answer to either question.

so find the name of the executable, which should be in the /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP directory. (browse to it through the terminal or with nautilus file browser, and see what lives in that directory).

[quill3033]

so find the name of the executable, which should be in the /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP directory. (browse to it through the terminal or with nautilus file browser, and see what lives in that directory).

Hi, thank you for helping.

what does an executable file look like? I'm used to .exe in windows but I haven't worked it out for linux.

There seem to be a lot of icons of the cute package type (that seem to indicate program files) and a lot of them are .jar but I don't really know which will actually RUN the program.

There is one that is called activation.jar (in the bin folder for SPSS) and I thought I'd run that but don't know whether to press Extract on the toolbar to do this and a bit worried I might do something to stuff up computer.

[nanotube]

Hi, thank you for helping.

what does an executable file look like? I'm used to .exe in windows but I haven't worked it out for linux.

There seem to be a lot of icons of the cute package type (that seem to indicate program files) and a lot of them are .jar but I don't really know which will actually RUN the program.

There is one that is called activation.jar (in the bin folder for SPSS) and I thought I'd run that but don't know whether to press Extract on the toolbar to do this and a bit worried I might do something to stuff up computer.

post the complete output of

ls -al /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP
and we'll go from there. ;)

[quill3033]

post the complete output of

ls -al /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP
and we'll go from there. ;)

Here's what it said listing the content (?). I used the command you gave me (I knew about -a but not -al)

~$ ls -al /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP
total 132
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:17 ..
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 8192 2008-04-05 22:30 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2008-04-05 22:24 lib
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42409 2008-04-05 22:24 log.txt
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 45164 2007-11-08 15:43 readme.txt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 2008-04-05 22:22 samples
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:23 _uninst


Does that last line mean that it is still uninstalled? I ticked the option of the 2 week trial in the graphic interface and that; may account for it but it shouldnt . It did exactly the same as the windows version. Thanks again, Nanotube :)

[nanotube]

Here's what it said listing the content (?). I used the command you gave me (I knew about -a but not -al)

~$ ls -al /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP
total 132
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:17 ..
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 8192 2008-04-05 22:30 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2008-04-05 22:24 lib
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42409 2008-04-05 22:24 log.txt
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 45164 2007-11-08 15:43 readme.txt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 2008-04-05 22:22 samples
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:23 _uninst


Does that last line mean that it is still uninstalled? I ticked the option of the 2 week trial in the graphic interface and that; may account for it but it shouldnt . It did exactly the same as the windows version. Thanks again, Nanotube :)

aha, i think it's probably under the 'bin' subdirectory (bin usually stands for "binary" and is where binary executables are located). post output of:

ls -al /opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP/bin
i'm guessing there will be a binary called spss or something like that in there somewhere. :)

[quill3033]

i'm guessing there will be a binary called spss or something like that in there somewhere. :)[/QUOTE]


Mmh - the output is five pages long. A few "spss' but no files with extension bin (still thinking microsoft? :confused:

Here it is (just remember this is what you asked me to do- it's very long). Thanks again. Cheers. :)

total 137984
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 8192 2008-04-05 22:30 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:24 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 54665 2002-08-29 04:50 activation.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2494 2004-04-08 03:36 AppIcon.ico
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1599570 2006-05-02 07:11 axis.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6741589 2004-07-13 06:59 br_portuguese.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1717664 2007-04-11 04:30 castor-1.1.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 980 2008-01-17 09:47 castor.properties
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1436247 2007-11-17 07:04 ChartEditor.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 244 2007-08-24 03:29 clientscriptingcfg.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3868 2007-03-03 09:30 CmdLineParamHelp.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46725 2007-02-27 10:51 commons-codec-1.3.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 71442 2006-05-02 07:10 commons-discovery-0.2.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38015 2006-05-02 07:10 commons-logging-1.0.4.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 606 2007-10-23 07:02 commute.dat
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 152257 2007-11-15 12:03 cop-client.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6201 2007-11-17 07:05 CoreTools.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 15845 2008-01-17 09:47 dictionary-1.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14460 2007-11-29 02:51 dregedit.dat
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4765409 2004-03-11 08:08 dutch.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1227935 2007-10-23 07:01 echoid
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5 2007-05-16 23:54 echoid.dat
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 487253 2007-10-23 07:19 echouid
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5339 2007-06-09 07:24 email_location.properties
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19267 2007-11-17 07:05 emfProcessor.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5341 2007-11-17 07:05 exacc.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4066457 2007-11-03 17:38 excel2007.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 89309 2007-11-17 07:05 ExportTools.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 10000 2007-10-27 02:20 extension-1.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5533771 2004-03-11 08:15 french.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6755059 2004-03-11 08:30 german.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 287806 2007-11-17 07:04 gpl.jar
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:22 help
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5020 2007-02-04 09:41 help.htm
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 498 2008-01-17 09:47 htmlfram.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 466920 2007-10-27 02:13 initspsslinux
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4909723 2006-10-31 06:09 italian.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1802694 2007-03-20 01:30 itext-2.0.1.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12298 2007-11-17 07:05 jaguar_treemodel.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 203109 2002-05-18 03:08 jai_codec.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1431422 2002-05-18 03:08 jai_core.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31191 2006-05-02 07:10 jaxrpc.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 455489 2007-02-27 09:08 JimiProClasses.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3419 2007-11-17 06:46 JRegEdit.jar
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:17 _jvm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1611 2007-11-09 04:13 jvmcfg.ini
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:23 lang
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4481 2007-03-05 14:07 lawhelp.htm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 961762 2007-01-31 06:43 lawutil
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1241363 2007-10-23 07:01 lcommute
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 214 2007-08-07 05:02 liccom.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 235 2007-11-28 07:59 licin.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 343 2007-11-28 07:59 lic.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 1443243 2008-01-17 07:35 lmsholic
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 1405 2008-01-17 09:47 locale-map-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 9817 2008-01-17 09:47 loclmap.xml
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:22 Looks
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 286529 2007-03-02 09:56 looks-1.3.1.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 369 2007-11-28 08:01 lopts
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 669902 2007-10-23 07:01 lsclean
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 492575 2007-10-23 07:01 lsdecode
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1269106 2007-10-23 07:01 lserv
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 87 2008-04-05 22:30 lservrc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246154 2007-10-23 07:01 lslic
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1253257 2007-10-23 07:01 lsmon
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 430576 2007-10-23 07:01 lspool
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 470254 2007-10-23 07:01 lsrevoke
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1223746 2007-10-23 07:01 lsrvdown
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 460425 2007-10-23 07:01 lsusage
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 433 2007-10-23 07:01 lsver
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 424999 2007-10-23 07:01 lswhere
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 327603 2003-06-25 15:05 mail.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 215 2007-11-17 06:46 Manifest.mf
drwxr-xr-x 2 5213 31 4096 2008-01-17 09:30 MapData
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 497 2007-09-05 14:58 modules.js
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 853 2007-09-05 14:58 modules.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24576 2007-07-19 02:07 omsgui.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 42019 2008-01-17 07:35 packagetest
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 13130 2008-01-17 09:47 pesworker.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4481 2007-03-05 14:23 phonelist.htm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 525 2007-04-18 02:36 phone_location.properties
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 509282 2007-11-17 07:05 PivotTableEditor.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 106386 2008-01-17 09:47 pmml-3-1.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 909270 2007-06-28 12:41 poi-3.0.1.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7557989 2004-07-14 02:11 portuguese.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6492 2007-07-20 06:02 Predefined Validation Rules SP SS.sav
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 251 2007-10-04 06:49 pref.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 900109 2008-01-17 08:27 prodconvert
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9767 2007-07-19 04:19 production-1.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1495 2007-06-23 01:43 productnames.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 136701 2006-12-21 07:21 RapidSpell.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1228025 2007-10-23 07:01 rcommute
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91628 2007-10-24 03:04 repository-client-application. jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 801512 2007-08-27 11:49 repository-client.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 379510 2007-11-17 07:05 repository-ui.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 568104 2007-10-23 07:01 rlftool
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 3235 2008-01-17 09:47 runapp.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18979 2006-05-02 07:11 saaj.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 3364 2008-01-17 09:46 sadmcfgfile
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 2063 2008-01-17 09:46 sadmcfgfile.awk
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 4609 2008-01-17 09:46 sadmrestart
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 2696 2008-01-17 09:46 sadmtmpdir
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 1884 2008-01-17 09:46 sadmtmpdir.awk
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 300 2008-01-17 09:46 Sampling.txt
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 831 2008-01-17 09:47 savexml.dtd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 331961 2007-04-20 13:43 security-client.jar
-rw-rw-rw- 1 5213 31 5104 2008-01-17 09:47 serverconfig.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 108 2008-04-05 22:24 setenvperm.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 349 2008-04-05 22:24 setupenv1.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3637 2008-04-05 22:24 setupenv.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 90 2008-04-05 22:24 showlic
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 1444398 2008-01-17 07:35 SHOWLIC
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 100 2008-01-17 09:47 sort-options.conf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13524257 2004-03-11 08:35 spanish.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 117 2008-04-05 22:24 spss
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 324121 2008-01-17 08:27 SPSS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 96 2008-04-05 22:24 spssactivator
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 994143 2006-12-15 06:41 SPSSACTIVATOR
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 228389 2007-10-17 01:48 spssactivator.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 3174 2008-01-17 09:46 spssadmc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20015772 2007-04-27 01:50 spssbase.pdf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1241370 2007-11-17 07:05 SpssClientCore.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9933244 2007-11-17 07:06 SpssClientUI.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 4989 2008-01-17 09:47 spss-complex-samples-1.0.dtd
-rw-rw-rw- 1 5213 31 5430 2008-01-17 09:46 spssd.conf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1334 2008-01-19 04:16 spssdxcfg.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10 2008-04-05 22:24 spssenv.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 96156 2007-12-21 08:34 spssexcel.jar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 5213 31 5 2008-04-05 22:23 spsslave.exe -> spssd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 98 2008-04-05 22:24 spsslicense
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10134 2005-06-24 02:57 spssmgr.ico
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 2454 2008-01-17 09:47 spss-oms-log-1.1.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 12931 2008-01-17 09:47 spss-output-1.3.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 726 2008-04-05 22:22 spssprod.inf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 933 2007-11-17 08:48 spsssln.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 2568 2008-01-17 09:46 spssuser
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 45997 2008-01-17 07:31 SPSSUSER
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6755059 2006-10-31 06:02 swissgerman.dict
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 1537 2008-01-17 09:47 syncsrt.srt
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 15723 2008-01-17 09:47 table-looks-1.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 90 2007-04-13 04:52 tar.sh
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:22 template
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 34467 2008-01-17 09:32 testload
-rwxr-xr-x 1 5213 31 32353 2008-01-17 07:31 threadtest
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 152016 2007-11-17 07:05 transformations.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 110174 2007-06-26 03:40 transformation.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 189113 2007-11-17 07:05 TreeEditor.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 141112 2007-11-17 07:05 TreeModel.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 15950 2008-01-17 09:47 treeview-1.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 359764 2007-11-17 07:05 TreeViewer.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 392594 2007-11-17 07:05 TreeViewerPanel.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138 2007-11-28 08:21 trial.txt
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-04-05 22:18 tutorial
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 372668 2007-11-17 07:06 UITools.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2217177 2005-08-06 01:16 uk_english.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 340635 2007-10-23 07:01 ulsdcod
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 83 2008-04-05 22:24 uninstallspss
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2209197 2005-08-06 01:16 us_english.dict
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 1345 2008-01-17 09:46 UserSettings.xml
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2284571 2005-08-06 01:15 usuk_english.dict
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4523 2005-10-27 04:28 ViewableTree.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 4084 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-appearance-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 5762 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-pagesetup-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 57357 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-style-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 4695 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-table-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 3494 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-text-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 6981 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-tree-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 2885 2008-01-17 09:47 viewer-treemodel-1.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 39019 2007-11-17 07:06 VisSupport.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3382382 2007-11-17 07:06 visualization.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38018 2007-11-17 07:06 VisUtils.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3150 2007-11-17 07:06 VizConverter.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 95450 2007-11-17 07:06 VizImager.jar
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 135264 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-1.3.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 170386 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-1.4.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 272629 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-2.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 369863 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-2.1.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 405756 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-2.2.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 445680 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-2.3.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 493451 2007-11-16 08:14 vizml-2.4.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 1346 2008-01-17 09:47 vizml-data-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 1323 2008-01-17 09:47 vizml-data-2.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 1859 2008-01-17 09:47 vizml-data-2.1.xsd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 361 2008-04-05 22:23 vizml.sh
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 68739 2008-01-17 09:47 vizml-template-1.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 70786 2008-01-17 09:47 vizml-template-2.0.xsd
-r--r--r-- 1 5213 31 171094 2008-01-17 09:47 vizml-template-3.0.xsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 126771 2006-05-02 07:11 wsdl4j-1.5.1.jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 116047 2007-02-27 11:23 xmlrpc-2.0.1.jar

[nanotube]

it doesn't have to have a .bin extension - extensions are a windows thing, really.
i see a few candidates in that list:

spss
SPSS
runapp.sh

so... try just try running them, e.g.:

/opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16GP/bin/spss
and see what it says. :)

but really... i'm surprised there are no help files that tell you where things are. hmm, maybe there is a link to it in /usr/bin/spss? look for that too. ;)

[quill3033]

spss
SPSS
runapp.sh


Trying that - the first works (haven't yet tried the others, will do) but it won't open any of my spss data files - it goes to my home directory but when i click on the folders that lead to the sub folder ie. Desktop to then hopefully click on psyc202 folder to then open data spss folder etc it won't do it. it tries to open a folder as though it were the data file and of course it can't. So i'm collecting the file name in a string to insert in the little window.


but really... i'm surprised there are no help files that tell you where things are. hmm, maybe there is a link to it in /usr/bin/spss? look for that too. ;)[/QUOTE]

Will look for help file. The Installation Single User Licence wasnt much help it only had a couple of isntructions to the effect that you should open the setup.bin file which we have done. Will keep you posted.

At least this is progress. I'm going to contact the company also. I do think it's good they at least have a linux version. Won't it be good when programs come on a disk and you can just click Windows, or Apple or Linux or whatever other distro there is out there? :)

Thanks again. :)

[nanotube]

spss
SPSS
runapp.sh


Trying that - the first works (haven't yet tried the others, will do) but it won't open any of my spss data files - it goes to my home directory but when i click on the folders that lead to the sub folder ie. Desktop to then hopefully click on psyc202 folder to then open data spss folder etc it won't do it. it tries to open a folder as though it were the data file and of course it can't. So i'm collecting the file name in a string to insert in the little window.


but really... i'm surprised there are no help files that tell you where things are. hmm, maybe there is a link to it in /usr/bin/spss? look for that too. ;)

Will look for help file. The Installation Single User Licence wasnt much help it only had a couple of isntructions to the effect that you should open the setup.bin file which we have done. Will keep you posted.

At least this is progress. I'm going to contact the company also. I do think it's good they at least have a linux version. Won't it be good when programs come on a disk and you can just click Windows, or Apple or Linux or whatever other distro there is out there? :)

Thanks again. :)

sounds like they have a bug....
hey, at least you have something.
good luck, have fun. :)

[quill3033]

yep, the bug is that even though I clicked on the 'temporary license" option, it on the one hand knows that this temp licence runs out 22 april but on the other tells me that my license has expired. I've emailed company and waiting for reply.

In the message it tells me that my 'temp licence for WINDOWS" has expired which is cute.

But it does open beautifully - :lolflag: go figure.

thanks again!:)

[nanotube]

hehe nice
it seems they haven't tested their linux port much before releasing it...

[quill3033]

yep, they're having problems with daylight saving finishing. any time your computer times change the programs suspects that you are trying to illegally extend your licence and shuts down.

they're getting back to me. :(

[nanotube]

yep, they're having problems with daylight saving finishing. any time your computer times change the programs suspects that you are trying to illegally extend your licence and shuts down.

they're getting back to me. :(

heh, that's why we like free software - none of this bs to deal with. ( R! :) )

[pmasiar]

hehe nice
it seems they haven't tested their linux port much before releasing it...

They don't test Windows release either.

I had my own set of problems with SPSS. i needed to import Excel spreadsheet, and help page about it was missing in the system help. Google found that it is FAQ, and not hold to your seat: instead of posting missing help page on their website, some drunken brain-dead helpbot wrote totally useless summary in two paragraphs of what was on the page, with no pictures or anything.

No thanks, if I have to struggle to learn something, I prefer to learn free software which I can use anytime. R is not as click-friendly, but text-based help is better as text commands you can copy-paste than screenscraped images where to click, IMNSHO.

[minhaaj]

Well an SPSS for linux would be great.

[Benic]

For those looking for something more powerful than SPSS, Stata 10 is now available with a Linux license. Stata is less user-friendly than SPSS. You need to learn a lot of syntax, but that won't afraid Linux users... ;)

You can switch your Stata 10 Windows license for a Linux license (it will cost you some money), which is way cheaper than buying a new license. I refer you to this thread:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870519&highlight=stata

A must have for all number crunchers is Stat/Transfer. As its name suggests, it can transfer data between most statistical software: Excel, SPSS, Stata, SAS, R, etc. So you can build your database with Excel and then switch to SPSS or Stata and work with it. You can also convert files, turning a SAS file into a SPSS one, for example. There's no Linux version yet. I haven't tried it with Wine. Anyone did?

[nanotube]

A must have for all number crunchers is Stat/Transfer. As its name suggests, it can transfer data between most statistical software: Excel, SPSS, Stata, SAS, R, etc. So you can build your database with Excel and then switch to SPSS or Stata and work with it. You can also convert files, turning a SAS file into a SPSS one, for example. There's no Linux version yet. I haven't tried it with Wine. Anyone did?

R can import data files from all those formats (including SAS formats, but needs an extra SAS reader installed...), so I don't really see the need. :)

and it's free. :)

but anyway, in the process of looking up stat/transfer, i saw on their website that they have a version for "unix", which probably includes linux.

[quill3033]

Just a couple of questions:
1. I have R and even bought text book for it and tried to teach myself. I was going through the Rmcdr. But found it too difficult. I imagine that if I knew quite a bit about stats to begin with I'd be ok - am I right? Are most people who use R out there pretty good with stats to begin with?

2. what is the point of being able to import from excel if it is windows based? I've tried importing open office spreadsheets with it and not been able to (which of course doesn't mean it can't be done). I also downloaded the Excel files for an assignment and tried to import that data, again without success.
I have some SPSS data files from the SPSS books I bought for uni (came with cd) and again, no luck importing those files to play around with in R. If I could do that then I could try to follow the assignments that way.

PS there is no rush on this as I dropped the stats subject and won't pick it up again till next year - but I'd like to play around with R now to see if it would be possible to do my assignments on it instead of SPSS.

[nanotube]

Hi,
the built-in functions just read the various forms of delimited text files (see help on read.table function (by typing "?read.table" at the R prompt (without quotes))).

The package 'foreign' provides capability to read various other file formats. to use those functions, load library foreign (install if it's not installed yet). see docs for the library here: http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/foreign/index.html

There is another package to read xls files but... the easiest way to do those is to convert them to csv, then read with read.table. So just use your openoffice to save the data files as delimited text, and you're good to go.

hope this helps. :)

[Benic]

R can import data files from all those formats (including SAS formats, but needs an extra SAS reader installed...), so I don't really see the need. :)

and it's free. :)

but anyway, in the process of looking up stat/transfer, i saw on their website that they have a version for "unix", which probably includes linux.

I agree with you, the R import tool is nice. Stat/transfer is an interesting addition if you have to work with different people using different software (it's my situation unfortunately :sad:). You can customize you import-export easily and it works with any given statistical software (as far as I know). But 180$ (60$ student version) is quite expensive for such a small tool, unless you make someone else pay for it... ;)

[LexLuthor08]

please tell me where I an find the authorization wizard in spss for linux.

because 16.0 comes without many analyze functions, I have to enter the code for the addon...

[sfbaaz]

I have installed SPSS 17 on the Linux distribution Ubuntu 8.10. The installation and licensing of the program proceeded without any error message.

But when I am running SPSS, I get a repeatable locking of the screen. It happens mostly when I click Edit on the menu bar, but sometimes also with other menu items. The drop-down menu opens as expected, but when I move the cursor to point on File, the screen is locked.

After about half a minute a message box opens, saying "Timeout waiting for server response". When I click OK, this box appears once more. After a new click on OK, the screen is "unlocked" and I can continue working with the program.

This screen behavior is repeatable, as said above, but it doesn't occur every time I open the Edit drop-down menu. However, too often to be neglectable.

The software manufacturer, SPSS Inc, has only support for Red Hat Enterprise and Debian 4.0. Therefore I try to get an answer from this forum. I can mention that the problem described above does not occur with Debian 5.0.

System info given by my Ubuntu installation:
PC Unix x86 (Ubuntu 8.10)
Kernel Linux 2.6.27-11-generic
GNOME 2.24.1
Memory 512 MiB
Processor Intel Celeron 1300 MHz
Available disk spade 2.8 GiB
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Graphics Card Intel 82815 Graphics controller (obtained via Windows XP)
Screen resolution 1024x768 px.

[grantbuntu]

I recently launched a new open source option - SOFA Statistics (Statistics Open For All) - http://www.sofastatistics.com. Deb packages are available from the downloads page there and I have tested it on Jaunty, Karmic and Lucid (which is the main development platform).

I have used SPSS extensively since 1989 (on mainframe and then Windows) but I was looking for something different and ended up building it myself ;). SOFA Statistics is still in development but the current version 0.9.11 connects to SQLite, MySQL, MS SQL Server, MS Access, and PostgreSQL, and the report table-making functionality (frequencies, cross tabs, simple report lists) is complete. Direct data entry is possible; importing data from CSV and spreadsheets (EXCEL, OpenOffice Calc, Gnumeric, and Google Docs) has been added; and there is an integrated interactive guide for choosing the appropriate statistical test. This guide also lets users test the normality of their data visually and with tests of skew and kurtosis. The following main tests are included: independent and paired sample t-tests, one-way ANOVA, Kruskal-Wallis H, Pearson's Chi Square (now with Contingency tables), the Mann Whitney U, Wilcoxon Signed Ranks, Pearson's R, and Spearmans's R. See http://www.sofastatistics.com/features.php. Internationalisation is now supported, with Galician being the first language translated into.

Feedback welcome.

[lenu]

i'm trying to install spss 17 on my ubuntu. the installation goes fine, but wine doesn't seem to be able to open the program. i'm using a cd-rom for windows, is that the problem? i can't find a linux version of spss 17 anywhere on the internet. i got the cd from my university.

- so i have a license. (actually i'm using a license server), but although i was able to give that piece of information when i installed, it still doesn't work.

i also have a copy of "spss 16 for linux", downloaded from thepiratebay. don't know though how i could get the license server information inserted into that version.

[Benic]

i'm trying to install spss 17 on my ubuntu. the installation goes fine, but wine doesn't seem to be able to open the program. i'm using a cd-rom for windows, is that the problem? i can't find a linux version of spss 17 anywhere on the internet. i got the cd from my university.

- so i have a license. (actually i'm using a license server), but although i was able to give that piece of information when i installed, it still doesn't work.

i also have a copy of "spss 16 for linux", downloaded from thepiratebay. don't know though how i could get the license server information inserted into that version.

No need to use a Windows version. SPSS, as well as Stata, now have universal java versions that work with Linux. I tried both and I can say that for Stata it's even better than the original when using some specific functions.

[darkween]

SPSS installed ubuntu 9.04, everything perfect. but when I try to open the program, I can not find any executable, so I thought it would be like having to open jdownloader under Java. I found a file called who spoke spssIn.sh JRegEdit.jar file, which try to open with Java 6 runtime but I can not start the program. any help?

sorry for my english

[lenu]

No need to use a Windows version. SPSS, as well as Stata, now have universal java versions that work with Linux. I tried both and I can say that for Stata it's even better than the original when using some specific functions.

but that will mean i'd have to buy *another* copy of spss right? the situation is rather annoying in the sense that my university has spss for windows + licenses that i'm allowed to use, but i don't get how i could get hold of the java version without paying for it just as i would without anything at all?

[Jerubaal]

but that will mean i'd have to buy *another* copy of spss right? the situation is rather annoying in the sense that my university has spss for windows + licenses that i'm allowed to use, but i don't get how i could get hold of the java version without paying for it just as i would without anything at all?

I am in exactly the same position :(

[Benic]

SPSS installed ubuntu 9.04, everything perfect. but when I try to open the program, I can not find any executable, so I thought it would be like having to open jdownloader under Java. I found a file called who spoke spssIn.sh JRegEdit.jar file, which try to open with Java 6 runtime but I can not start the program. any help?

sorry for my english

If you installed it as described in the installation documentation, look for
/opt/SPSSInc/SPSS16/bin/SPSS

You can add it to your start menu and it opens right away.

[Benic]

but that will mean i'd have to buy *another* copy of spss right? the situation is rather annoying in the sense that my university has spss for windows + licenses that i'm allowed to use, but i don't get how i could get hold of the java version without paying for it just as i would without anything at all?

If you purchased a Windows version of SPSS, that means you have to buy a new license, unless you can convince them to trade your Windows license. You can give it a try, who knows?

I don't use SPSS a lot now (I migrated to Stata and R), so I decided to take a look at their website and it seems they changed their product line. It looks like IBM bought the company and decided to make things differently. Will they keep the java platform? If you guys tried the latest version, you could give us some light on that.

[oneiric]

everyone out there looking for an SPSS replacement for Ubuntu ---> just install R statistics

sudo apt-get install rkward

[Benic]

everyone out there looking for an SPSS replacement for Ubuntu ---> just install R statistics

sudo apt-get install rkward

Depending on the Ubuntu version you have, installing RKward from the repos can be problematic. From my own experience, with 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10 you should try to compile the SVN version (http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/rkward/index.php?title=Download_RKWard) instead.

[shaunsmith_99]

I'm having to use SAS in a statistical programming class--it's required. Anyway, I have R installed, along with the R commander, both of which are in the synaptic pkg manager. I do my assignments in SAS, impress the instructor, and then come home to R, which I plan on using long after my "limited lease" on SAS runs out.

R commander is a very friendly GUI, IMHO:

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/Misc/Rcmdr/


Statistical computing is the #1 reasons I still have a Windows Machine as well... = ( Sure, R is good, but SAS and SPSS really have no substitutes.. I'm hoping that PSPP will get there eventually, but it's still very limited on it's abilities... :|:|

[Benic]

Statistical computing is the #1 reasons I still have a Windows Machine as well... = ( Sure, R is good, but SAS and SPSS really have no substitutes.. I'm hoping that PSPP will get there eventually, but it's still very limited on it's abilities... :|:|

I don't know much about SAS, but I can tell you that now both SPSS (16 and up) and Stata (10) have java-based version that can be installed on a Linux machine. I tried both of them and I had no problem.

From my own experience and on a very personal basis, I think SPSS is no match for Stata and R, but this is arguable...

[Stefus-Refus]

I have tried
PSPP
RKWard
RCmdr
and SPSS 16 for Linux

PSPP is almost useless
RKWard and RCmdr are good. I prefer RKWard (do not use the last version it is not compatible with Ubuntu 9.10 from some reason). The R project is has very powerfull and advanced statistics including many features that are not availible in SPSS 16 but it is not good in sorting and manipulating the data.
But SPSS is better . I found an SPSS 16 for Linux version on some torrent. And I am using it now as a main program because is easier to handel the data but for some things I still use RKward which can open spss SAV. files what is great. :D
I also tried JMP and I thing that is the best Stat program but sadly it can not run in Linux.

[Benic]

I prefer RKWard (do not use the last version it is not compatible with Ubuntu 9.10 from some reason)

If you install it with synaptics, it doesn't work. I compiled the SVN version and it works perfectly with 9.10: you should try. You can download the latest version here (http://sourceforge.net/projects/rkward/files/Current_Stable_Releases/rkward-0.5.2.tar.gz/download).

[knattlhuber]

Statistical computing is the #1 reasons I still have a Windows Machine as well... = ( Sure, R is good, but SAS and SPSS really have no substitutes.. I'm hoping that PSPP will get there eventually, but it's still very limited on it's abilities... :|:|

There is a Linux version of SAS. Granted, the SAS program editor of the Linux version sucks big time but you can still run your files through Vim. Not sure in what area you are using SPSS for but in my field (epidemiology/biostats), Stata (which has a Linux version) is head and shoulders above SPSS, especially for clustered data, regression and survival analysis.