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mostwanted
December 28th, 2006, 11:17 PM
Since we understand each other's languages (at least in written form), wouldn't it be ideal if we got a sub-forum like the other loco-teams where we could discuss things about Linux, Ubuntu and other things that only concern Scandinavians? Denmark, Norway and Sweden probably don't have enough people to maintain activity if they were divided into separate forums, but a trans-Scandinavian board is a possibility isn't it?

Tell me what you think.

Somenoob
December 29th, 2006, 12:16 AM
I'm not an inhabitant of Scandinavia, but it's a great idea.

rocknrolf77
December 29th, 2006, 12:33 AM
Do you have a good danish linux forum? We have www.linux1.no in norway. :)

mostwanted
December 29th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Do you have a good danish linux forum? We have www.linux1.no in norway. :)

We have some linux forums (not any particularly good ones), but I think an Ubuntu-specific forum would be better and a lot more appealing to Ubuntu users, obviously.

migla
December 29th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Excellent idea!

migla
December 29th, 2006, 02:51 AM
Some lecturer told us at uni, that according to some study, Scandinavians aren't as fluent in each others languages as people think, but also that it only takes about 2 weeks of immersion for us to start understanding pretty much everything the neighbours are saying.

mostwanted
December 29th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Bumping this for some more opinions.

moma
December 29th, 2006, 05:20 PM
A Nordic-Baltic... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_region) forum would be a better idea. It would cover all nordic countries... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries#Flags) and languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and English). English for users from Iceland, Finland, Estonia and the Baltic region. 10% of Finns speak also Swedish.

Norwegians have a hugely popular forum on http://linux1.no. It is a general Linux forum and good model.

See also: http://www.nordicos.org (I think it's temporarily down... EDIT: it is just slow...)

jcrnan
December 29th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Well, How well we understand eachother differ a lot. Most people I know (Im norwegian) have little to no problem understand swedes or danish people but its a bit harder the other way around.

But yeah, including others then those three would be kind of pointless as english would have to be used.

But I'm not quite sure I see what the forum would contain other then talking about ubuntu in our native language :p

DC@DR
December 29th, 2006, 06:24 PM
A Nordic-Baltic... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_region) forum would be a better idea. It would cover all nordic countries... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries#Flags) and languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and English). English for users from Iceland, Finland, Estonia and the Baltic region. 10% of Finns speak also Swedish.

I totally agree.

mostwanted
December 29th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Well, How well we understand eachother differ a lot. Most people I know (Im norwegian) have little to no problem understand swedes or danish people but its a bit harder the other way around.

But yeah, including others then those three would be kind of pointless as english would have to be used.

But I'm not quite sure I see what the forum would contain other then talking about ubuntu in our native language :p

Well, some things concern only Scandinavians. A Linux conference in Scandinavia would be pretty uninteresting to other people, localisation issues too, specific cultural things that relate to Linux in general.


A Nordic-Baltic... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_region) forum would be a better idea. It would cover all nordic countries... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries#Flags) and languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and English). English for users from Iceland, Finland, Estonia and the Baltic region. 10% of Finns speak also Swedish. http://www.nordicos.org (I think it's temporarily down... EDIT: it is just slow...)

I was suggesting this forum mostly because we can understand each other... but maybe including all Nordic countries would be the most diplomatic and interesting thing to do? What does everyone else think?

iPower
December 29th, 2006, 08:06 PM
maybe :-k

Kimm
December 29th, 2006, 08:57 PM
I'm scandinavian (swedish), and I think its a good idea!

haxer
December 29th, 2006, 09:02 PM
Btw we have an swedish forum for linux to i dont think its so much great deal why dont we just improve this server in some other way? I think about maybe "distrowatch" kind of stylich? :-k :-k

Erik Trybom
December 29th, 2006, 09:04 PM
In Sweden we already have ubuntulinux.se which is a nice site (although the forum doesn't seem to be overly active). A Scandinavian forum part here would be fun though. I think we can understand each other very well when it comes to writing.

migla
December 31st, 2006, 02:21 AM
While it may be true there is some kind of cultural kinship for all peoples in the nordic countries or at least there has traditionally been political cooperation, I voted yes mainly because of the common(ish) language issue.

edit: On the other hand... Most people understand English well enough, so tech support would mostly be on the regular forum anyway. Maybe the nordic or nordic/baltic thing is a good idea. I guess where to draw the line depends on how many people can be rounded up.

agurk
December 31st, 2006, 02:45 AM
I was suggesting this forum mostly because we can understand each other... but maybe including all Nordic countries would be the most diplomatic and interesting thing to do? What does everyone else think?

Multilingual forums do work, as long as people respect that a thread started in English stays in English. Even if you would go with the Scandinavian alternative, you'd need to accommodate English anyway, since Finnish makes absolutely no sense at all, whatsoever. ;) Generally, I think it's a good idea that could potentially breathe some life into the Scandinavian/Nordic user community, but it would need its own forum, as opposed to being a subforum to one of the already existing local ones.

Linuxfest Copenhagen 2007, anyone? :cool:

migla
December 31st, 2006, 03:05 AM
Multilingual forums do work, as long as people respect that a thread started in English stays in English. Even if you would go with the Scandinavian alternative, you'd need to accommodate English anyway, since Finnish makes absolutely no sense at all, whatsoever. ;) Generally, I think it's a good idea that could potentially breathe some life into the Scandinavian/Nordic user community, but it would need its own forum, as opposed to being a subforum to one of the already existing local ones.

Linuxfest Copenhagen 2007, anyone? :cool:

Finland isn't actually in Scandinavia (or it depends), but it is in the Nordic countries. Anyway, when I was speaking of Scandinavia I was referring to Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

Linuxfest Stockholm would be closer to more people :)

Stemp
December 31st, 2006, 03:18 AM
Well if you share the «same» language I guess it's a good idea to share a forum and wiki.
There is a French speaking forum/wiki and several Loco teams (not a French one in fact).
So yes I think it's a good idea.

kristjans
December 31st, 2006, 03:27 AM
I'm not a Scandinavian, and I voted yes. Having such a board would make sense, because people from similar regions will understand each other better, because of shared cultural background.
I'm an Estonian (living in USA though) and if I'll learn Swedish, I might even hop in. :D

mostwanted
December 31st, 2006, 01:04 PM
Well if you share the «same» language I guess it's a good idea to share a forum and wiki.

Scandinavians don't actually share the same language, but they're all very similar. Norwegian and Swedish sound very similar when spoken, and Danish and Norwegian are very similar in writing. Danish and Swedish aren't too far from each other either. Most Scandinavians would say the languages are mutually intelligible (especially Norwegian and Danish in writing).

So, it appears that we have a great majority of people who would like a Scandinavian/Nordic forum. How would it be accomplished? Currently I think it requires a LoCo-group to get forum, but since the individual countries already have their own groups couldn't we skip this formality?

I think I'll ask some mods about this and report back.

pmj
December 31st, 2006, 02:31 PM
I'm from Sweden (obviously) and I voted no. Not because I think the idea is all that bad or anything, but I don't think such a forum would see much use. We speak English well enough in Scandinavia that we can keep posting in the regular forums, where the chance of getting a question answered is much higher. Hm. I just read what I had typed and maybe I do think it's a bad idea after all. Yes, I'll go with that. Bad idea.

oyvindaa
December 31st, 2006, 03:09 PM
To be perfectly honest, I think I agree with pmj on this one.

jcrnan
January 2nd, 2007, 03:27 PM
Yeah, I can see this for other language groups and such but not really for scandinavia. While the idea of a scandinavian community is good Im not sure if we could build a working and interesting forum around that when there already is larger and better linux forums for the individual countries.

And scandinavians in general are very good in english so using english boards really isn't a problem.

Oh and when talking with people with from sweden or denmark we often just use english because while we can understand eachother normally its just easier to use english :p

mips
January 2nd, 2007, 04:19 PM
I know they are not strictly Scandinavian but what about Iceland, Greenland, Faroe isl. etc.

Is there enough similarities in language in order for people to understand each other or is the difference to great ?

migla
January 3rd, 2007, 03:18 PM
I know they are not strictly Scandinavian but what about Iceland, Greenland, Faroe isl. etc.

Is there enough similarities in language in order for people to understand each other or is the difference to great ?

Icelandic is from the same Old Norse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse), but the difference nowadays is too great.

jclmusic
January 3rd, 2007, 04:39 PM
gute idee! :p

Jussi Kukkonen
January 3rd, 2007, 05:53 PM
A Nordic-Baltic... forum would be a better idea. It would cover all nordic countries... and languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and English). English for users from Iceland, Finland, Estonia and the Baltic region.

Well, then you'd have to convince the finnish/baltic/icelandic people that there's something of value in your small half-understandable forum (compared to the totally english, 100 times larger ubuntuforums.org ...).

In short, a scandinavian forum is probably a great idea but don't expect the english section to become a hit.

Colonel Kilkenny
January 3rd, 2007, 06:04 PM
Finns have already own site http://ubuntu-fi.org and board http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org.
I think that those sites + ubuntuforums.org already cover up a lot of the need (for finnish users)..

migla
January 4th, 2007, 05:44 AM
Yes, for Swedish, there's ubuntu-se.org (http://ubuntu-se.org/). I haven't looked into that or the Finnish one either (I speak both).

I probably wouldn't look for techsupport from a Scandinavian/Nordic forum, but maybe discussion of ... well, whatever Scandinavia/Nordic-specific ubuntu stuff there might be to talk about.

The Copenhagen, Stockholm or Helsinki Linuxfest 2007 would be one such topic.

haxer
January 4th, 2007, 07:57 AM
BTW how to get tickets for that one or is it just to show up becuse i was planing to go there and have a look its not to far away from me about 3hours with train:-k

iPower
January 9th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Finland isn't actually in Scandinavia (or it depends), but it is in the Nordic countries. Anyway, when I was speaking of Scandinavia I was referring to Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

Linuxfest Stockholm would be closer to more people :)

you forgot about iceland

TLE
March 7th, 2007, 12:56 AM
I think it's a great idea.
I'm not sure about a real LoCo team since I probably wont have time to contribute to it. But a subforum would be very nice because I'd like to be able to target lots of Danish users with certain forum posts.

So is anybody moving forward with this ?

miahfost
October 7th, 2007, 03:55 PM
Speaking of Ubuntu and Scandinavia, there is a brand new conference started this year in Gotheburg Sweden, close to everyone! Check it out at http://fscons.org. It is designed to be fun, hands on, and only deals with Free Software! No Microsoft allowed!

Visti
October 7th, 2007, 04:02 PM
I think it would be neat if there was enough people willing to visit there.