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dbbolton
December 22nd, 2006, 11:49 PM
mine is esao andrews.

http://esao.net


amazing painter, and no stranger to flash.

ComplexNumber
December 23rd, 2006, 12:08 AM
i don't know if i have a favourite. one thing is for certain - i can't stand modern art! the likes of tracy emin and jackson pollock et al are a complete waste of space and they would be more usefully employed cleaning peoples shoes. its annoying to know that some idiot with more money than sense has paid several thousand pounds for (for example) 2 blocks of word stuck together with glue. "its elequent self expression", i hear such types say. in that case, the next time i go to the toilet in the vacinity of such a 'work of art', i'll add my own self expression to it. it'll probably add several hundred pounds to the value.

i have a liking for the work of peter bruegel. i like his art because one can always see some detail in his artwork that i never noticed the first time. you can see his art here. (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bruegel/) i think that they have a certain charm.

zgornel
December 23rd, 2006, 01:05 AM
Well, among my favourites are Jackson Pollock and Ad Reinhardt. Oh yeah, David too.

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 01:08 AM
i don't know if i have a favourite. one thing is for certain - i can't stand modern art! the likes of tracy emin and jackson pollock et al are a complete waste of space and they would be more usefully employed cleaning peoples shoes. its annoying to know that some idiot with more money than sense has paid several thousand pounds for (for example) 2 blocks of word stuck together with glue. "its elequent self expression", i hear such types say. in that case, the next time i go to the toilet in the vacinity of such a 'work of art', i'll add my own self expression to it. it'll probably add several hundred pounds to the value.

i have a liking for the work of peter bruegel. i like his art because one can always see some detail in his artwork that i never noticed the first time. you can see his art here. (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bruegel/) i think that they have a certain charm.


our english teacher gave us a printout of the fall of icarus. its a great work.

bobbybobington
December 23rd, 2006, 01:08 AM
Banksy (http://www.banksy.co.uk/menu.html)

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 01:12 AM
Banksy (http://www.banksy.co.uk/menu.html)
i love good, old-fashioned cynicism. :)

tbroderick
December 23rd, 2006, 01:24 AM
i can't stand modern art!

You're loss.


the likes of tracy emin and jackson pollock et al are a complete waste of space and they would be more usefully employed cleaning peoples shoes.

Couldn't disagree more. I can understand not liking a particular school or art, but saying any work of art is a complete waste of space is absurd. And I wouldn't really put Emin and Pollack in the same class.



its annoying to know that some idiot with more money than sense has paid several thousand pounds for (for example) 2 blocks of word stuck together with glue.

Why do you care what other people spend their money on.


"its elequent self expression", i hear such types say. in that case, the next time i go to the toilet in the vacinity of such a 'work of art', i'll add my own self expression to it. it'll probably add several hundred pounds to the value.

Go for it.

ComplexNumber
December 23rd, 2006, 01:39 AM
our english teacher gave us a printout of the fall of icarus. its a great work.
its not one of my favourites by him as i don't think its typical. here (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bruegel/wedding.jpg) is one that is more 'typical', i think. notice that there is lots of detail(eg one of the men sat at the table trying to steal a piece without the women seeing, one of the blokes at the far end of the picture greedily guzzling a whole jug instead of pouring it into a mug, etc). such art takes some thought and skill. thats why i like it. the only requirement necessary to be good at modern art is a pulse.



And I wouldn't really put Emin and Pollack in the same class.
who is bottom and who is next to bottom?

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 01:46 AM
easy boys. there's a reason i posted this in the cafe and not the backyard ;)

i hear that it's about to be closed down.

ComplexNumber
December 23rd, 2006, 01:56 AM
easy boys. there's a reason i posted this in the cafe and not the backyard ;)

i hear that it's about to be closed down.
ok, thats fair enough. its just that i appreciate art and, similarly to music, i don't want modern art to drag the state of art into the nearest cess pit. comparing modern art with real art such as constable, de vinci, raphael, etc is like comparing britney spears on acid with js bach.

djsroknrol
December 23rd, 2006, 02:00 AM
I've always loved the work of Gaughan....especially the Tahiti works....

tbroderick
December 23rd, 2006, 02:43 AM
who is bottom and who is next to bottom?

I love Pollack.



its just that i appreciate art

So anyone who likes modern art doesn't appreciate "real art"? I appreciate art too. All art. Whether it was made yesterday, 50 or 1000 years ago.


i don't want modern art to drag the state of art into the nearest cess pit. comparing modern art with real art such as constable, de vinci, raphael, etc is like comparing britney spears on acid with js bach.

I don't see why modern art, with all that it encompasses is any less "real" then the lot you listed. You're preference might be for those artists but not everyone agrees with your definition of art, thankfully.

ComplexNumber
December 23rd, 2006, 02:56 AM
thats sad. really sad. maybe you should buy those 2 blocks of wood glued together. whats more, for a limited time only whilst stocks last, tracy emin has offered to leave the remains of her last drinking session on it to double its value.
off to the backyard this thread goes, and i apologise for the imagery, but there is no other way of expressing how much of a disgrace modern art is.

nalmeth
December 23rd, 2006, 03:09 AM
I'm not a close or astute follower of artists past and present, but I would carefully agree to a point with ComplexNumber (I DON'T know anything about those two artists mentioned).
Or at least with his comparison to music, that in modern/current times, art tends to be extremely watered down, or tends to directly mimick old pieces, or just seem irrelevant when theres SO MUCH art to be seen.

I like to think that when there is so much volume of art, that there should arise a precedent on pieces that offer new ideas, or offer a quality that sets them apart from rest. Visually and conceptually. I don't know that this is happening yet.

Sadly, I have little or no interest in modern art (other than supporting some friends who are artists), and like music I find the greatest surprise and wonder peering into the past, looking for those revolutionaries and eccentrics who's ideas have been copied and smeared into obscurity today.

Of course there is Van Gogh and Da Vinci, but the artist of old (and not that old ;)) that moved me the most was Salvador Dali, without a doubt.

ComplexNumber
December 23rd, 2006, 03:12 AM
but the artist of old (and not that old :wink:) that moved me the most was Salvador Dalii like this (http://www.defendamosplazalaslilas.cl/web/portal/imagenes/simpsons%20Dali.jpg) one of 'his' :D

nalmeth
December 23rd, 2006, 03:33 AM
That is just plain silly :p

A parody of Persistence of Memory, I think? Or is it time? :confused:

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 03:49 AM
nalmeth, what happened to the southpark avatar ?

or does my memory fail me ...

nalmeth
December 23rd, 2006, 04:09 AM
nalmeth, what happened to the southpark avatar ?
I still have one! Haven't you seen this episode?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodland_Critter_Christmas

ComplexNumber, do I sense that you don't care much for Dali? The quotations have me wondering.. Or am I reading too much into the joke..

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 04:29 AM
no, i rarely watch it. but enjoy it when i do.

tbroderick
December 23rd, 2006, 04:30 AM
thats sad. really sad.

It's sad cause I like Picasso, Matisse, Renoir, Cezanne, Schiele, Pollack, Ernst, Kandinsky, Dali, Gris, Rauschenberg,, Johns, Lichtenstein, Warhol, Basquiat, Beckmann, Impressionism, Expressionism, Fauvism, Cubism, Pop Art, and Abstract Art (to name a few).

yabbadabbadont
December 23rd, 2006, 05:25 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Remington

I don't know why, but I really love his painting, "Ridden Down".

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/r/remington/remington_ridden_down.jpg

ComplexNumber
December 23rd, 2006, 12:15 PM
I still have one! Haven't you seen this episode?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodland_Critter_Christmas

ComplexNumber, do I sense that you don't care much for Dali? The quotations have me wondering.. Or am I reading too much into the joke..
you sense wrong ;). i do actually quite like dali, but i also happen to like the simpsons a lot. i had that image that i linked to as wallpaper on my desktop for a time.

fuscia
December 23rd, 2006, 02:07 PM
my mother is a painter and was an art teacher (before my sister and i were born). she was always taking us to museums and galleries and teaching us how to use different mediums. even though i'm a hack, i can't imagine what life would be like without that upbringing. (and that's not even mentioning my father's influence with his love for music. too bad neither one of them had a passion for the stock market.)

you could ask me this same question everyday and get a different answer each time. the only painter whose work i've loved for my whole life, is my mother, but i kind of doubt my ability to be objective in her case (though the novely of her being my mother was pretty much gone by the time i was five). other than her, nobody sticks out as a constant favorite, with the possible exception of fairfield porter (pic). painting is my favorite, but i also like photography and various other 'flat' media. i've never really been a huge fan of sculpture.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NYG/8633~Island-Farmhouse-1969-Posters.jpg

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 03:26 PM
excellent use of shadow.

btw, i think more than one medium is media ;)

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i vaguely remember the thread you started au sujet de parents. do you have a favourite musician whom you consider an "artist"?

fuscia
December 23rd, 2006, 03:45 PM
btw, i think more than one medium is media ;)

both are acceptable. when a non-english word is accepted as part of the english language, all english language rules then apply to that word.


i vaguely remember the thread you started au sujet de parents. do you have a favourite musician whom you consider an "artist"?

the idea of a 'favorite' anything is bewildering to me. so, as with painters, ask me everyday and i'll give you a different answer every time.

dbbolton
December 23rd, 2006, 03:58 PM
touche'. but i hate my mother tongue so i say media :D

it's actually quite commendable that you don't have a set favourite.

musician, anthony green.

RAV TUX
December 24th, 2006, 05:37 AM
Gideon (http://members.aol.com/gideonet/holocaust.htm)

dbbolton
December 24th, 2006, 06:28 AM
Gideon (http://members.aol.com/gideonet/holocaust.htm)
very expressive.

viper
December 24th, 2006, 08:26 AM
My Wife.

mips
December 24th, 2006, 11:21 AM
Way to many to list, Edvard Much (my sig) is just one of the many.

Also like photography.

neowolf
December 24th, 2006, 11:32 AM
Banksy (http://www.banksy.co.uk/menu.html)

2nd'd :p

chaosgeisterchen
December 24th, 2006, 02:19 PM
That's an extremely hard question, though. I have lots of artists I like but measured by quantity it was Devin Townsend throughout the last few weeks.

I also like other progressive artists like Dream Theater, Nevermore, Threshold, Ayreon, Porcupine Tree and so on.

My last.fm statistics[1] (www.last.fm/user/teddypuh) show quite a lot about what I'm listening to all the day.

[1] last.fm profile (www.last.fm/user/teddypuh)

fredj
December 26th, 2006, 07:14 AM
'ok, thats fair enough. its just that i appreciate art and, similarly to music, i don't want modern art to drag the state of art into the nearest cess pit. comparing modern art with real art such as constable, de vinci, raphael, etc is like comparing britney spears on acid with js bach.'

This is the cry of the philistine throughout history. Every great artist has been accused of
dragging art into the cess pit. You have no appreciation of art. You just like what is old, safe,
familiar and non challenging. Happy Christmas!

dbbolton
December 26th, 2006, 08:07 AM
Way to many to list, Edvard Much (my sig) is just one of the many.

Also like photography.
of course :)