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Frak
December 11th, 2006, 11:42 PM
I was just wondering, for some reason, I always get depressed over the holiday. I just wanted to know, does anybody else feel that Anti-Christmas spirit?

BigDave708
December 11th, 2006, 11:47 PM
No, it's just you.

dbbolton
December 12th, 2006, 12:03 AM
i can see why. i hate the commercialism.

but i love to visit family.

smoker
December 12th, 2006, 12:41 AM
i can see why. i hate the commercialism.


yes, i hate this too, seems they start advertising on tv for christmas earlier each year:mad: bah, humbug,:D

don't mind when i finish up work for the holidays though:D :D :D

zachtib
December 12th, 2006, 12:45 AM
I can see where you don't like the commercialization of Christmas, but I still like the Christmas season minus the marketing

Lord Illidan
December 12th, 2006, 12:47 AM
My grandpa died last week. Yep, I definitely lack Christmas spirit.

Frak
December 12th, 2006, 12:49 AM
i can see why. i hate the commercialism.

but i love to visit family.
That's it right there, I love the family, that's why I bear it, but the commercialism is horrible and rampant.

maniacmusician
December 12th, 2006, 01:46 AM
My grandpa died last week. Yep, I definitely lack Christmas spirit.
my deepest condolences...very sorry for your loss.

I'm not much of a christmas guy either. Just can't get into the "spirit"

BWF89
December 12th, 2006, 01:51 AM
I'm not pro or anti Christmas spirit. I'm pretty much neutral.

It used to be I got really excited about Christmas and getting presents that it drove my entire family nuts but the last few years I've been getting less and less excited.

I just like Christmas because it's something to break the monotony of the year.

hanzomon4
December 12th, 2006, 01:52 AM
My grandpa died last week. Yep, I definitely lack Christmas spirit.

Sorry to hear that, I'm sure he's in a good place and would want you to be happy.

Some of you folks might just be SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_Affective_Disorder))

I get excited because I got a little brother to spoil :mrgreen:

PriceChild
December 12th, 2006, 01:55 AM
I can't stand birthdays more than christmas... "wow... the earth spun round the sun exactly one more time". Doesn't mean I don't accept the pressies though ;)

beercz
December 12th, 2006, 01:59 AM
Same as some in here.

I hate commercialism being thrust down my throat and the histeria created to buy loads of stuff people don't need (I have known my wife to buy Christmas presents 13 months in advance - honestly - and she regularly begins to shop for Christmas presents in July). Hmmm! Deciding what to buy for whom, and then end up with something they didn't really want anyway. Also receiving stuff that I didn't really want from others who also struggled to decide what to buy for me. Why do we go through this? Don't get me going about the crowds at shopping centres where everyone else can't decide what to buy for everyone else, and then mostly buy stuff for everyone else that they don't really want.

I can't stand the pressure to socialize (office lunches/parties etc. with people I wouldn't normally want to socialize with - particularly my boss).

I find the stupid tacky lights and illuminated overblown ornaments that people put on their houses or in there gardens (at least here in the UK), really horrible.

I loathe the really naff Christmas songs that we here everywhere (in shops, on the radio, TV etc.) that we were fed up with last year, and the year before, and the year before that, and so on.

I hate the amount of money it costs, particularly if you have kids (I have 2) and the credit card bills that come in in January.

I hate having to write out all the Christmas cards only to be thrown away in the new year.

I find the whole thing wasteful in the extreme, all the waste left over food, or food we haven't eaten because we bought too much. The wrapping paper and packaging that gets thrown out on Boxing day (or shortly thereafter).

The family rows when it gets too stressful, especially as the children will not go to sleep as they are so excited (and then get up far too early on Christmas morning - then they are really tired later in the day and become even more obnoxious). Then my wife gets stressed because she has so much to do in the run up to Christmas (why?).

People getting so drunk whilst 'enjoying themselves' because everyone else does.

Having said all of that though, I am really, really looking forward to the time off and spending time with my family. That's the most enjoyable part.

Do I have some Anti-Christmas spirit? Well, I sound like a grumpy old man, (I'm not), so yes I do I suppose.

Glad I have got that off my chest, roll on Christmas! :-)

Merry Christmas everyone!

ComplexNumber
December 12th, 2006, 02:06 AM
I was just wondering, for some reason, I always get depressed over the holiday. I just wanted to know, does anybody else feel that Anti-Christmas spirit?
i think its probably due to the expectation for people to be happy. that tends to have the opposite effect on people. its not surprising that christmas has one of the highest suicide and depression rates(eg calls to the samaritans) than any other time of the year.

christmas was never a religious festival anyway and doesn't have anything to do with christianity. it was a pagen festival until the christians 'hijacked' it. well, it was something to do with synchronising the calendars. therefore, jesus ended up having a birthdate in december(all the evidence states that he was born in september. there were only 10 months in the year then, so he couldn't have been born in december).
one has to ask what holly, mistletoe, father christmas, fairy lightes, etc have to do with religion. answer: nothing whatsoever. thats just leftovers from its true pagen roots.

i think christmas is nice, in a way, as long as one doesn't get taken in too much by the commercialism and just takes the good without adhering to the bad.

mpampix
December 12th, 2006, 02:09 AM
Well this year, no I don't feel anything special. I have many things to worry about (studies, job etc). To be honest I haven't yet realised that Christmas is only 15 days away. At least I think that I will be able to rest for some days.

PatrickMay16
December 12th, 2006, 02:17 AM
Euhughghg. Whoa!!!!!!!! I tell you, I don't really feel any better or worse than usual. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

hod139
December 12th, 2006, 02:23 AM
I find the stupid tacky lights and illuminated overblown ornaments that people put on their houses or in there gardens (at least here in the UK), really horrible.


I love them (http://p10.hostingprod.com/@lightorama01.com/Videos/WMV-Files/CarsonWilliams-WizardsInWinter.wmv)!

KiwiNZ
December 12th, 2006, 02:24 AM
Commercialisation = Spending = Coporporate income = profits = more employment which gives more folks money to enjoy life and such things as Christmas. This all = yep its good

JayTee
December 12th, 2006, 02:31 AM
I try to get into the Christmas spirit each year but with every passing decade I get more disgusted with the commercialism of Christmas. Every year here in America (and in many other countries I imagine) we decorate the outsides of our houses and waste megawatts of electricity while some people can barely afford to heat their homes to keep their children warm. We spend billions of dollars on lavish gifts for our loved ones, most of whom are not needy and all too often the gifts go unused or underused. We throw away more leftover food than most third world countries produce in a year. I think it's more than just a coincidence that Santa is an anagram for Satan. We truly worship ostentatious displays and material wealth much more than we worship Christ. I think we've all strayed way off message from what Christ was trying to teach people and that there is very little Christ left in Christmas thanks to the brokers at Wall Street and the ad executives on Madison Avenue.

With all that being said,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all! :-D

PatrickMay16
December 12th, 2006, 02:36 AM
I think it's more than just a coincidence that Santa is an anagram for Satan. We truly worship ostentatious displays and material wealth much more than we worship Christ. I think we've all strayed way off message from what Christ was trying to teach people and that there is very little Christ left in Christmas thanks to the brokers at Wall Street and the ad executives on Madison Avenue.

With all that being said,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all! :-D

Yes. Also, Christmas started out as a pagan thing. You might find this interesting:
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract3.html

Frak
December 12th, 2006, 02:54 AM
I try to get into the Christmas spirit each year but with every passing decade I get more disgusted with the commercialism of Christmas. Every year here in America (and in many other countries I imagine) we decorate the outsides of our houses and waste megawatts of electricity while some people can barely afford to heat their homes to keep their children warm. We spend billions of dollars on lavish gifts for our loved ones, most of whom are not needy and all too often the gifts go unused or underused. We throw away more leftover food than most third world countries produce in a year. I think it's more than just a coincidence that Santa is an anagram for Satan. We truly worship ostentatious displays and material wealth much more than we worship Christ. I think we've all strayed way off message from what Christ was trying to teach people and that there is very little Christ left in Christmas thanks to the brokers at Wall Street and the ad executives on Madison Avenue.

With all that being said,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all! :-D
Amen

finferflu
December 12th, 2006, 03:07 AM
Christmas is very annoying especially if you work in a supermarket every week end :P

23meg
December 12th, 2006, 03:14 AM
I don't have a religional connection to it, and I dislike consumerism and lavishness, so yes, I'm pretty negative about it.

The feeling that something new is beginning has also worn out over the years, unfortunately, and that was the only thing I liked about it in the first place.

Bezmotivnik
December 12th, 2006, 05:36 AM
I haven't had any family for a long time and my friends live far away. The only two people I even knew in this town were taken away from me, probably permanently, in the past couple of months. It's just me and the cat. I don't watch television, thereby eliminating most of the noisy, crass commercialism of the season.

So, "the holidays" have been a total non-event for me for many, many years. I kind of keep my head down until the whole thing blows over toward the end of the first week in January.

The Christmas season is pretty hellish for people -- traffic, hysterical (and frequently drunk) driving, parking lot road-rage incidents at the mall, competitive shopping...plus whatever family drama ensues. I can't say I miss being part of it.

I do really miss Thanksgiving, though. I haven't had Thanksgiving dinner with anyone for at least fifteen years.

fuscia
December 12th, 2006, 06:27 AM
christmas is kind of retarded, but it does more good than if there were no christmas. in a society based on greed, that which causes the greediest to experience a gross excess is the most likely to overspill to those who just want to get by. more type Z personalities are hired for christmas than anything else. it's not really a religious holiday, either. no one ever says "only 69 shopping day 'til easter" or "here's an ornament for your crucifix". nope, it's all punch and presents. ho, ho, ho!

BWF89
December 12th, 2006, 06:37 AM
I can't believe it's Christmas Eve Day in 13 days. I haven't been keeping track at all. Of course I wouldn't even have known how many days until my birthday on the 4th if my extremely annoying ex girlfriend hadn't asked me during study hall what if I'm doing anything special for my birthday on Monday. To which I replied "My birthday's on Monday?"

Tux Aubrey
December 12th, 2006, 07:50 AM
I am so over it. Christmas here in Australia is mid summer and traditionally a time for long holidays. Problem is that in heat of 35C + you really just feel like veging out in a pool or at the beach. If that's not possible (and I'm not knocking it) I reckon I'd rather be at my (airconditioned, quiet) office. But the worst thing by far is Family Get-Togethers. My wife's family reserve Christmas day for their annual all-in, no holds barred family fight. This year I have requested a 24hr coma for Christmas.

Mind you, Christmas is also the season of the best international cricket matches and this year we are thumping England again, which is very nearly my favorite thing in whole world. Its like blood sport but no animals are hurt and you can't really feel sorry for the loosers.

Merry Christmas to all, especially those in the UK!

ashleycrue
December 12th, 2006, 07:54 AM
I don't like the spending lots of money bit of christmas,the bit I like is spending time with family and friends especially my 2 kids.
I didn't vote because I'm somewhere in the middle of the options.

weatherman
December 12th, 2006, 10:47 AM
wow there seem to be a lot of "anti christmas" people in here (me included)... do you think the feelings of people on this forum are representative of feelings of people around the world?

steven8
December 12th, 2006, 10:54 AM
There wouldn't be so much anti-Christmas sentiment, I believe, if it seemed Christmas meant something other than profits for big companies. Linus Van Pelt made a great speech in A Charlie Brown Christmas about what the meaning of Christmas is, but I'm afraid his sister Lucy was more accurate in saying that Christmas is run by a big eastern syndicate. And that was over 40 years ago.

It's just sad.

total wormage
December 12th, 2006, 10:57 AM
http://www.43things.com/things/view/384536

once when you googled 'cancel christmas' and 'christmascancellation' my 'digital experiments'-homepage was the first hit :D

but that's only because abby (from the ER series) said "cancel christmas" once, which i think is a terrible nice way to express yourself. use it a lot myself actually :p

but on the other hand, i think christmas is a nice time to be around people you love and don't buy things for them. (i voted yes)

:KS :KS :KS :KS :KS :-k

tminton
December 12th, 2006, 01:27 PM
While there may be truth in saying that Christians hijacked Christmas, it's also true that we've celebrated the birth of Christ at Christmas for hundreds of years..... :-k

But with that, JayTee has pretty much expressed my feelings as well. The hype, commercialism and "business" of Christmas has pretty much killed the meaning of it.

Bah Humbug :???:


I try to get into the Christmas spirit each year but with every passing decade I get more disgusted with the commercialism of Christmas. Every year here in America (and in many other countries I imagine) we decorate the outsides of our houses and waste megawatts of electricity while some people can barely afford to heat their homes to keep their children warm. We spend billions of dollars on lavish gifts for our loved ones, most of whom are not needy and all too often the gifts go unused or underused. We throw away more leftover food than most third world countries produce in a year. I think it's more than just a coincidence that Santa is an anagram for Satan. We truly worship ostentatious displays and material wealth much more than we worship Christ. I think we've all strayed way off message from what Christ was trying to teach people and that there is very little Christ left in Christmas thanks to the brokers at Wall Street and the ad executives on Madison Avenue.

With all that being said,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all! :-D

23meg
December 12th, 2006, 01:43 PM
wow there seem to be a lot of "anti christmas" people in here (me included)... do you think the feelings of people on this forum are representative of feelings of people around the world?I feel, yes. I hear negative sentiments about it from lots of people, directly and indirectly, and the majority of the world is too poor to care. Those who can care may be feeling less eligible to celebrate something lavishly when deprivation from basic needs, wars etc. around the world are proliferating like never before, which is good.

Frak
December 12th, 2006, 02:01 PM
wow there seem to be a lot of "anti christmas" people in here (me included)... do you think the feelings of people on this forum are representative of feelings of people around the world?
I totally agree,
I think Christmas should be about helping the people who need the help, not making the Greedy Greedier.

OffHand
December 12th, 2006, 04:40 PM
I was just wondering, for some reason, I always get depressed over the holiday. I just wanted to know, does anybody else feel that Anti-Christmas spirit?

Do what I do... get drunk :twisted:

earobinson
December 12th, 2006, 04:48 PM
no, I just need to find the time to get my gf and family presents

mand0
December 12th, 2006, 05:23 PM
To those who dislike excess:

http://adbusters.org/metas/eco/bnd/xmas.php

Yes, that is my avatar... gotta love a meditating Santa.

katgfan
December 12th, 2006, 05:24 PM
No.

BarfBag
December 12th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Definitely not me. I don't think I've been happier. :mrgreen:

jc87
December 12th, 2006, 08:26 PM
For me is a fifty-fifty.

I do enjoy passing some time with the family, and receiving gifts ( Christmas funds do allow me to buy things i actually enjoy:twisted: ) , on the other hand i hate some stupid things about the season, like crappy food, publicity 24/7, lame buzzwords, etc...

Luckily for me i only receive my first paycheck January's, this means that this Christmas i only receive but i do have an good excuse to not spend any money;) (the last of this kind for me)

And missel toe (or whatever how is called) does sounds promising this time:D

utabintarbo
December 12th, 2006, 08:28 PM
My wife told me how much it is going to cost us last night. :eek: :eek: :evil:

hanzomon4
December 12th, 2006, 11:10 PM
Wow, I agree with you in part. I love giving the presents and all the commercialism. However I also would like to volunteer time(time is more valuable the money + I'm poor ;)) helping others or just being with the lonely.

I do think we need to spend more time thinking about those who are suffering. I'm happy but I know they got some folks who are not, and I mean truly suffering.

There's wars, genocide, abuse of all sorts, hunger, disease, depression, and we got folks fighting over the next playstation. However all year round we think and care about things that give us pleasure and convenience while the needs of others never enters our mind. So lets face it folks we can't blame Christmas or cooperations for our indifference.



I try to get into the Christmas spirit each year but with every passing decade I get more disgusted with the commercialism of Christmas. Every year here in America (and in many other countries I imagine) we decorate the outsides of our houses and waste megawatts of electricity while some people can barely afford to heat their homes to keep their children warm. We spend billions of dollars on lavish gifts for our loved ones, most of whom are not needy and all too often the gifts go unused or underused. We throw away more leftover food than most third world countries produce in a year. I think it's more than just a coincidence that Santa is an anagram for Satan. We truly worship ostentatious displays and material wealth much more than we worship Christ. I think we've all strayed way off message from what Christ was trying to teach people and that there is very little Christ left in Christmas thanks to the brokers at Wall Street and the ad executives on Madison Avenue.

With all that being said,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all! :-D

beercz
December 12th, 2006, 11:14 PM
My wife told me how much it is going to cost us last night. :eek: :eek: :evil:

You're lucky - I have yet to be told!!

MedivhX
December 12th, 2006, 11:19 PM
I'm not very "into" Christmas... I like celebrating the new year the most!!! And I adore the winter atmosphere. everything is so white!!! It would be perfect when Credi Agricole and intesa bank would stop with those stupid f*****g commercials!!! >(

yabbadabbadont
December 12th, 2006, 11:28 PM
Ever since my little sister became a doctor, she is always on call either Thanksgiving or Christmas. (sometimes both) Our family always ends up having to celebrate one or both of them at a different time. This year, everyone in the family was sick over Thanksgiving, so we didn't get together. Since my sister is on call this Christmas, we'll be celebrating it on New Years. Add to that all the previously well made comments about the commercialism and you can see why I voted Anti-Christmas this year. :(

(Bah, Humbug! :))

mcglnx
December 12th, 2006, 11:46 PM
Excellent oportunity to have fun w/ couple of friends! I celebrate both catholic and orthodox ones, so that I got more fun! :)

zcal
December 13th, 2006, 12:21 AM
I for one think the Christmas atmosphere is great! It's the one time of year I actually really enjoy going shopping. I think it's for the same reason that I enjoy the airport. Everyone's in transit. They've all got somewhere to go and something to get and apparently very little time to do it. I guess I get my kicks from people-watching. It's a great sort of limbo. :mrgreen:

Eh, at the moment though, I'm trying to figure out what Spain's deal is with the Santa decorations. Seems every Santa I see in this country is climbing a ladder. Since when does that happen?

seijuro
December 13th, 2006, 12:34 AM
I was just wondering, for some reason, I always get depressed over the holiday. I just wanted to know, does anybody else feel that Anti-Christmas spirit?

Indeed I do, for me Christmas simply holds an entire childhood of broken promises and resentment plus not long ago one of my favorite dogs died on Christmas day. Add to that I have light defecient depressiveness meaning winter in general also causes me to be depressed because of the lessened exposure to sunlight, sitting near a natural light lamp helps but its no replacement.

utabintarbo
December 13th, 2006, 12:44 AM
You're lucky - I have yet to be told!!

Better to retain ignorance in this case. ](*,) :p

utabintarbo
December 13th, 2006, 12:45 AM
Excellent oportunity to have fun w/ couple of friends! I celebrate both catholic and orthodox ones, so that I got more fun! :)

Double-dipper!:p

Dual Cortex
December 13th, 2006, 02:11 AM
I just wished it snowed in Miami.

Iandefor
December 13th, 2006, 04:22 AM
While there may be truth in saying that Christians hijacked Christmas, it's also true that we've celebrated the birth of Christ at Christmas for hundreds of years..... :-k

But with that, JayTee has pretty much expressed my feelings as well. The hype, commercialism and "business" of Christmas has pretty much killed the meaning of it.

Bah Humbug :???: Christianity is pretty much made up of previously-existing traditions. Old Testament/Torah stuff, not so much, but it's still there. Noah's ark was taken straight from the Epic of Gilgamesh, Job's basic story was written long before whichever Prophet wrote that one down, the list goes on.

In terms of Christianity, all it takes is a nickel to scratch away the 'Christ' paint and see Bacchus grinning up at you.* The traditions have been around for a long time; Christianity just took the traditions already there and ran with them- All Hallows' Eve and Samhuinn, and Christmas and Yule, for instance.

Oh, and I'm not such a fan of Christmas, although I do kind of enjoy it. It has no religious significance to me and really just means a good dinner with family I actually like.
_____________
*That's not necessarily bad or invalidating of Christianity. After all, God is omnipotent, so why couldn't He just shape the history and mythology of previous religions to provide a base more amenable to more common religious denominations when Christ came around?

yabbadabbadont
December 13th, 2006, 05:14 AM
I just wished it snowed in Miami.

You just need to convince everyone down there to leave their freezers open... :p :D

vayu
December 13th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Commercialisation = Spending = Coporporate income = profits = more employment which gives more folks money to enjoy life and such things as Christmas. This all = yep its good

What about the part where it equals more slavery and exploitation of offshore workers, more consumption of resources, more pollution and environmental destruction, and ultimately a bleaker world for our descendents. Not to mention more aggravation,rushing around and materialism. All those qualities are directly opposed to my conception of the actual spiritual intent of the holiday. The family, the friends, the parties and celebration by itself however, are fully inline with my conception of spirituality.

steven8
December 13th, 2006, 08:08 AM
What about the part where it equals more slavery and exploitation of offshore workers, more consumption of resources, more pollution and environmental destruction, and ultimately a bleaker world for our descendents. Not to mention more aggravation,rushing around and materialism. All those qualities are directly opposed to my conception of the actual spiritual intent of the holiday. The family, the friends, the parties and celebration by itself however, are fully inline with my conception of spirituality.

Now you're just nitpicking. ;)

ade234uk
December 13th, 2006, 08:12 AM
I think the real meaning of christmas has been lost. I am not religious in any way but going shopping with my girlfriend last Saturday proved what a load of BS it is these days. I nearly walked out of the shoppping centre at one point due to amount of sheep rushing around.

I was looking at people with Bags full of presents, rushing around and thinking to myself WTF are these people doing.

Xmas is not about giving, it's about who spent the most money on each other for presents. It's about who can buy the most. It's about who can get their hands on the latest technology screw everyone else, and if one person spends less than another on their presents, its considered that you are tight or evil.

I also find the whole build for one day is complete BS. Up to 2 months before xmans day the television tries to sell us this perfect Xmas image so we can spend more money in their stores which gets my grate, and then come 1pm on Xmas day the adverts change and its Boxing Day sales.

Its one big marketing scam. I have point blank refused to spend pounds and pounds on presents. Each person has a got a box of biscuits and a cheap bottle of wine this year and thats it. Job done.

The sooner Xmas is over the better, and if people dont like the presents I have bought them, screw them becuase its the thought that counts.

Come January a lot of people will be in Debt to banks and wonder why the hell they spent so much money over Xmas. The Toys & Presents people bought will be forgotten about becuase we then get on to Easter and peoples Birthdays.

steven8
December 13th, 2006, 08:33 AM
I will relate a little story. One of the dad's in my son's cubscout den went shopping the day after thanksgiving. the biggest shopping day of the year in the U.S. Anyway, he was at Wal Mart (God help him), and they had a deal on a Lexmark printer. Like 25 bucks. He was moving with the crowd through the isle, heading towards the printers. When he and the woman in front of him got to where they were supposed to be, the shelf was empty. They both looked around, and there was a woman with all of them in her cart. Like ten printers. The woman in front of him went up to the woman with the printers and said, "That's just not fair. I want to get one for my son who is in college and could really use it. Could I have one?" The woman with the printers said she could meet her in the parking lot, and for 50 bucks, she could have one.

Merry Christmas.

I don't feel anti-Christmas, I guess. I feel anti-people.

kvonb
December 13th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Ratbag kids off from school making a nuisance of themselves, idiots off work driving around clogging up the streets and creating more air pollution than normal, stupid annoying commercials, REALLY annoying christmas movies, having to see the wretched family?

Oh boy I can't wait!

I think it's a shame, I mean the world is becoming full of self centred, stupid people who don't give a damn about anything but themselves. nobody really cares about the misery that is being dealt to the unfortunate people in the world. We're all quite comfortable sticking our heads in the sand and ignoring the blindingly obvious damage that we are doing to this planet and continue wasting money on worthless trinkets.

To me it's the ultimate proof that God doesn't exist, I mean if he did then surely he would have realised by now that Humans were a huge mistake and wipe us all out for good! Maybe start again with birds or fish or something much nicer :rolleyes:.

Christmas
December 13th, 2006, 09:13 AM
No way! Though I'm an atheist, I love the Christmas celebration and its spirit.

Tux Aubrey
December 13th, 2006, 09:24 AM
ade234uk wrote:


..... and if people don't like the presents I have bought them, screw them because its the thought that counts

And what a beautiful thought that is. Almost worth getting a Xmas card printed to share the joy. ;)

ade234uk
December 13th, 2006, 09:39 AM
Ratbag kids off from school making a nuisance of themselves, idiots off work driving around clogging up the streets and creating more air pollution than normal, stupid annoying commercials, REALLY annoying christmas movies, having to see the wretched family?

Oh boy I can't wait!

I think it's a shame, I mean the world is becoming full of self centred, stupid people who don't give a damn about anything but themselves. nobody really cares about the misery that is being dealt to the unfortunate people in the world. We're all quite comfortable sticking our heads in the sand and ignoring the blindingly obvious damage that we are doing to this planet and continue wasting money on worthless trinkets.

To me it's the ultimate proof that God doesn't exist, I mean if he did then surely he would have realised by now that Humans were a huge mistake and wipe us all out for good! Maybe start again with birds or fish or something much nicer :rolleyes:.

You got it in one, and the poster above you too. Im not saying ban Xmas, what I am saying is that the reasons behind it have gone to pot. I just dont buy in to it anymore.

Somenoob
December 13th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Never enojyed it either.. maybe all the extreme commercialism is the cause?

hikaricore
December 13th, 2006, 12:16 PM
No, it's just you.

lol it's 61 to 63 ... i'm willing to bet there's 60 other people besides the original poster who have the anti spirit.

zcal
December 13th, 2006, 01:20 PM
I will relate a little story. One of the dad's in my son's cubscout den went shopping the day after thanksgiving. the biggest shopping day of the year in the U.S. Anyway, he was at Wal Mart (God help him), and they had a deal on a Lexmark printer. Like 25 bucks. He was moving with the crowd through the isle, heading towards the printers. When he and the woman in front of him got to where they were supposed to be, the shelf was empty. They both looked around, and there was a woman with all of them in her cart. Like ten printers. The woman in front of him went up to the woman with the printers and said, "That's just not fair. I want to get one for my son who is in college and could really use it. Could I have one?" The woman with the printers said she could meet her in the parking lot, and for 50 bucks, she could have one.


Would it be, legally speaking, considered stealing to grab one of those printers out of that womanīs cart while she wasnīt looking, book it to the register and buy it yourself? After all, she hadnīt actually paid for it yet... :twisted:

You always see those people playing tug of war over something of limited stock at Wal-Mart or Toys R Us during the Christmas season. One of them has to emerge the winner, right? I canīt imagine there being legal implications unless someone got clocked in the face or bitten. :rolleyes:

hikaricore
December 13th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Would it be, legally speaking, considered stealing to grab one of those printers out of that womanīs cart while she wasnīt looking, book it to the register and buy it yourself? After all, she hadnīt actually paid for it yet... :twisted:

You always see those people playing tug of war over something of limited stock at Wal-Mart or Toys R Us during the Christmas season. One of them has to emerge the winner, right? I canīt imagine there being legal implications unless someone got clocked in the face or bitten. :rolleyes:

Honestly I'm not a bad person, but if I saw someone pile 10 printers into their shopping cart, I would beat her nearly to death with one of them and promptly take it to the nearest register covered in blood. Anyone that arrogant deserves a printer beating, taking all 10 printers then hording them before actually buying them and trying to haggle...ppffff... my country is full of morons.

doobit
December 13th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Honestly I'm not a bad person, but if I saw someone pile 10 printers into their shopping cart, I would beat her nearly to death with one of them and promptly take it to the nearest register covered in blood. Anyone that arrogant deserves a printer beating, taking all 10 printers then hording them before actually buying them and trying to haggle...ppffff... my country is full of morons.

I buy everything online to avoid that kind of violence.

emarkay
December 13th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Of course the question makes the poll sort of biased, but yea,

BAH FRIGGEN HUMBUG!

It's just some old Pagan ceremony that appropriated by some "modern" dogma, that has mutated into some bizarre Capitalist frenzy...

What a buncha' loonies!

lyceum
December 13th, 2006, 08:17 PM
As a bi-polar Gemini I think I get just as happy as I get deppressed. I hate the holidays, but love the cookies. I love the presents but hate the gifts, love spending time with the fam, but hate being there. You get the idea.

Brunellus
December 13th, 2006, 09:05 PM
The consumerism doesn't appeal to me, but I do take a certain satisfaction in the Advent & Christmas season, liturgically.

My grandmother was fond of saying that Christmas was for children, but Easter was for grown-ups. Now that she's gone and I'm a little older, I understand.

matchstich
December 14th, 2006, 12:10 AM
it is just plain consumerism anymore. was different when i was a kid, greedy little bugger that i was, getting presents, but now. bah humbug.

hanzomon4
December 14th, 2006, 03:44 AM
Ratbag kids off from school making a nuisance of themselves, idiots off work driving around clogging up the streets and creating more air pollution than normal, stupid annoying commercials, REALLY annoying christmas movies, having to see the wretched family?

Oh boy I can't wait!

I think it's a shame, I mean the world is becoming full of self centred, stupid people who don't give a damn about anything but themselves. nobody really cares about the misery that is being dealt to the unfortunate people in the world. We're all quite comfortable sticking our heads in the sand and ignoring the blindingly obvious damage that we are doing to this planet and continue wasting money on worthless trinkets.

To me it's the ultimate proof that God doesn't exist, I mean if he did then surely he would have realised by now that Humans were a huge mistake and wipe us all out for good! Maybe start again with birds or fish or something much nicer :rolleyes:.

Ok..
Kids=nuisance
Motorist=idiots
The Family.... wretched, well aren't you so full of love :^o

And hush! before God kills us all :mrgreen: .......... But really some of you folks just seem to hate the world... Go give some kid a ps3 and remember how fun it was being little around Christmas time.. Better yet, go volunteer some where and spend sometime with folks who are happier and poorer then yourself.....

Hell If that doesn't rock your boat... just get drunk and ******

kvonb
December 14th, 2006, 04:22 AM
Go give some kid a ps3 and remember how fun it was being little around Christmas time..

...yes and then hear them whine that you didn't even include any games with it!


Better yet, go volunteer some where and spend sometime with folks who are happier and poorer then yourself.....

..and have you ever TRULY come across anyone who is poorer and happier? If so where are they?


Hell If that doesn't rock your boat... just get drunk and ******

...I don't drink to that extent but the last part I will gladly do :mrgreen:.

hanzomon4
December 14th, 2006, 08:26 AM
...yes and then hear them whine that you didn't even include any games with it!



..and have you ever TRULY come across anyone who is poorer and happier? If so where are they?



...I don't drink to that extent but the last part I will gladly do :mrgreen:.

Yes you can never buy the right games, you have to choose between making the adults happy(E games) and making the kid happy(GTA, halo, and anything gory and violent)

As to the poor, yes... mostly old people and folks with a natural built in pep. I'm poor as dirt, generally happy, but depressed... clinically and with the wold... I'm an oxymoron, I know....


(Depressed with the world: explanation)

I do alot of research on abuse of teens in various boot-camps, reform/boarding schools, "therapeutic(********) specialty(********) schools(********)"... They all got some label but their all generally the same... Abusive, Unregulated, and Profitable... It's really shocking when learn about the abuse and how similar the abuse claims are... across time and facilities.
Crap! there goes my Christmas spirit..... I'm pissed :evil:

karellen
December 14th, 2006, 09:01 AM
I hate all this ******** like "christmas spirit" and stuff, it's all about making money and trying to determine us to buy more and more. we're nothing but consumers...And I'm not a religious person, on the contrary..

happy-and-lost
December 14th, 2006, 11:48 AM
It's cold. I live in the middle of nowhere. My town is rubbish for Christmas shopping, and the train to London costs a fortune. Bah humbug!

slimdog360
December 14th, 2006, 12:50 PM
I do like the christmas songs. fa la la la la la la la la

adewale
December 14th, 2006, 02:11 PM
well overhere christmas isn't with much of the commercial stuff. The problem is that most people have forgotten the reason 4 dis holiday which is celebrating Christ. And we don't waste much money over presents the highest is hampers or food items. well i would like a dvd version of ubuntu 6.06 lts and suse 10.2 stable release + some linux games on dvd posted to me as my christmas present (i hope we have santa or someone with a very big heart) cause i don't have an internet connection to download them. Merry Christmas everyone

bapoumba
December 21st, 2009, 05:23 PM
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