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patrick295767
November 18th, 2006, 10:49 PM
(Non Open Source Skype) What s your impression concerning Skype for Linux ?
Regards,
Patrick
InsomniacUK
November 18th, 2006, 11:20 PM
It works, but boy is it uuuuuuugly. [/lion king]
.t.
November 18th, 2006, 11:22 PM
I refuse to use it. The protocols and application are both closed, inhibiting use and innovation.
Klaidas
November 19th, 2006, 01:43 PM
I refuse to use it. The protocols and application are both closed, inhibiting use and innovation.
http://www.bash.org/?65579 :D
Ok, as for skype... Works, but... doesn't feel as good as in Windows.
Patrick K.
November 19th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Sense when did Eyecandy be an important aspect of Linux? If it works it works, if it doesn't work it doesn't work. I would rather it be less flashy then it already is on Linux. I like my applications to be simple and straight forwarded. Skype does a pretty decent job of it. Gizmo is even more eyecandy then Skype is. However I may switch for features skype doens't have like currently Gizmo lets you put people on hold with boring music. I want to drive people nuts with that. hehehe *Evil grin*.
PryGuy
November 19th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Just ask yourself what is better, having an application ported to Linux or not? I think it is good having any application doesn't matter if it's open source or not. It's just here and it makes it easier to switch to Linux and kiss ******* goodbye completely.
I don't use Skype personally and not going to, yet you are free to install it or not if you do not like it. Yet I do not like it's made for KDE...
sweemeng
November 19th, 2006, 02:14 PM
i have no problem having non foss on linux. as long it is actively maintained for linux. the argument for free software among many is, it released fast, and sadly proprietary software fail in this, for linux and other non windows OS anyway.
remember flash 8 for linux, ooo wait, there is no flash 8 for linux, we have to stuck with flash 7. until flash 9 is out anyway. remember yahoo messenger for unix, yup not maintained.
with free software we can accommodate other OS and include windows, but if left to commercial world, it will based on market share.
to be honest if there is choice between free and non free software, i will choose free software, but if free version don't exist, i have no problem using it, as long it work for my OS, the price is reasonable, and not too restrictive licensing(the same reason why i don't use windows).
maybe one day some of the commercial software vendor, will use free license, then it is best to everyone.
az
November 19th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Just ask yourself what is better, having an application ported to Linux or not? I think it is good having any application doesn't matter if it's open source or not.
But one of the strengths of Ubuntu is that it is free-libre software. You are not running a black box that can spy on you, you have access to the source code and the right to look at it, change it and redistribute those changes if you want.
Now this may not appeal to everyone, but software freedom is nothing to shake a stick at.
It's just here and it makes it easier to switch to Linux and kiss ******* goodbye completely.
If Ubuntu was proprietary, why switch to it? How would it be different from windows?
I don't use Skype personally and not going to, yet you are free to install it or not if you do not like it. Yet I do not like it's made for KDE...
It is not made for KDE, it just uses the QT libraries. However, you are right - if it was open source, there could be a skype client written using any toolkit.
PryGuy
November 19th, 2006, 03:44 PM
If Ubuntu was proprietary, why switch to it? How would it be different from windows?We are talking about Skype not Ubuntu. Why isn't it possible to run the proprietary Skype under the open source Ubuntu?
patrick295767
November 19th, 2006, 05:42 PM
We are talking about Skype not Ubuntu. Why isn't it possible to run the proprietary Skype under the open source Ubuntu?
Certainly because UBUNTU would have to pay for licence just to get the Properties of VOIP-Protocol-make-By-SKYPE
shining
November 19th, 2006, 05:44 PM
http://fossvoip.blogspot.com/2005/12/why-thou-shall-not-use-skype.html
apjone
November 19th, 2006, 06:16 PM
I just started using skype, its ok , bit buggy but hay with deal i got for adding £10 to my account i can order fast food for free for six months :mrgreen: and call all my mates and family for free for that period!!!
.t.
November 19th, 2006, 07:29 PM
That's good then: you can talk to me; as my keyboard drivers are open source!
Klaidas
November 19th, 2006, 08:48 PM
That's good then: you can talk to me; as my keyboard drivers are open source!
Heh :) Well, that wasn't exactly what I meant.
What I meant was: If I can call my classmates/friends/etc for free, chat with them in a simple interface using a free, popular, Windows/Linux/Mac/Other compatible program, why not use it?
shining
November 19th, 2006, 09:12 PM
Heh :) Well, that wasn't exactly what I meant.
What I meant was: If I can call my classmates/friends/etc for free, chat with them in a simple interface using a free, popular, Windows/Linux/Mac/Other compatible program, why not use it?
Did you read the link I just pasted above?
.t.
November 19th, 2006, 09:14 PM
Heh :) Well, that wasn't exactly what I meant.
What I meant was: If I can call my classmates/friends/etc for free, chat with them in a simple interface using a free, popular, Windows/Linux/Mac/Other compatible program, why not use it?
SIP is free. Ekiga is a nice client to a nice, free, protocol. Plus, you can always talk to them in person, or use IRC!
az
November 20th, 2006, 04:16 AM
We are talking about Skype not Ubuntu. Why isn't it possible to run the proprietary Skype under the open source Ubuntu?
Yes, but you mentioned making it easier to switch to Linux and kiss ******* goodbye completely. My point is that the fundemental difference between the two OSes is the licencing/development model.
It's more that just the fact that you have a choice between two things. Any criticism you can make of windows, you would eventually be able to make with something that is proprietary because of the way it is made and kept.
Sure you can run Skype on Ubuntu, but you can also use Wengophone and not worry about privacy and security issues as much.
mdsmedia
November 20th, 2006, 04:38 AM
Yes, but you mentioned making it easier to switch to Linux and kiss ******* goodbye completely. My point is that the fundemental difference between the two OSes is the licencing/development model.
It's more that just the fact that you have a choice between two things. Any criticism you can make of windows, you would eventually be able to make with something that is proprietary because of the way it is made and kept.
Sure you can run Skype on Ubuntu, but you can also use Wengophone and not worry about privacy and security issues as much.
I voted "it's great...I love it" but having read the arguments here I'm going to download WengoPhone and install it in Ubuntu, get my mate to download it in Windows, and spread the word. It's harder to see Skype becoming as ubiquitous as Windows and Office, but it really is the standard at the moment, like Google etc. It just MAY become a dangerous standard.
PryGuy
November 20th, 2006, 08:08 AM
Yes, but you mentioned making it easier to switch to Linux and kiss ******* goodbye completely. My point is that the fundemental difference between the two OSes is the licencing/development model.
It's more that just the fact that you have a choice between two things. Any criticism you can make of windows, you would eventually be able to make with something that is proprietary because of the way it is made and kept.
Sure you can run Skype on Ubuntu, but you can also use Wengophone and not worry about privacy and security issues as much.But anyway, let this piece of software will just be under the Linux's sun and we'll decide to use it or not. I do not personally. There's just another situation, I've got friends in Oxford, a family and they are around 50. They do Windows and Skype of course. Is there a chance to convince them using any open source software, how do you think? They just do not know how to install anything but Skype. That's the problem we have, we can switch to open source easily but we frequently can't switch those who are on the other end that's why we are forced to use skype or not to talk at all... So I'll have to use Skype too if I plan to talk to them.
3rdalbum
November 20th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Which of the leading VOIP programs would you rather use?
1. Skype
2. Windows Live Messenger
My answer is obvious. I don't like Skype, I don't think it's even very good and it's certainly been neglected on Linux - but I'd rather people gave it the marketshare over WLM.
angkor
November 20th, 2006, 11:40 AM
Skype for linux development has been very poor the last couple of years to say the least. It looked promising in the beginning, but since ebay pays the bills there's hardly any focus on linux development. I mean come on, One (?) update in 2 years!?
I have switched to ekiga (using a sip account) and only use skype occasionally when I need to talk to someone who uses it.
shining
November 20th, 2006, 12:14 PM
I voted "it's great...I love it" but having read the arguments here I'm going to download WengoPhone and install it in Ubuntu, get my mate to download it in Windows, and spread the word. It's harder to see Skype becoming as ubiquitous as Windows and Office, but it really is the standard at the moment, like Google etc. It just MAY become a dangerous standard.
Just like .doc and .xls are dangerous standard. I'm not sure you can really use the word "standard" for something that is closed, but that's the way it is.
And the longer you wait before doing something about it, the harder it is.
Please report if you have any success with Wengo. :)
shining
November 20th, 2006, 12:35 PM
Which of the leading VOIP programs would you rather use?
1. Skype
2. Windows Live Messenger
My answer is obvious. I don't like Skype, I don't think it's even very good and it's certainly been neglected on Linux - but I'd rather people gave it the marketshare over WLM.
When there is a monopoly, it doesn't really matter who is holding it, as long as they abuse from it, which is very likely.
I don't think it's already the case, but it may happen.
mrgnash
November 20th, 2006, 01:36 PM
It's crap.
theturner
January 25th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Works as intended, sucks totally.
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