Java is open source, does that mean that its going to be installed by default

[darkhatter]

I've had my full of free-Java...

[mostwanted]

Unless Ubuntu starts including Java apps by default, that would be pointless.
But it would probably be moved to Universe or maybe even Main.

[neowolf]

I think an interesting possibility is that some gnome apps are written in java with gnome bindings and included a main gnome release, like tomboy and f-spot are written in mono c# and included in the main gnome release 2.16.

[darkhatter]

Open Office needs java, thats the whole reason they have free java installed.

[IYY]

I think it should be included. It would benifit both Ubuntu and Java.

[ihavenoname]

I think they should put java in instead of the free java, this allows us to go to java websites and it makes OpenOffice faster from what I have heard. It's fantastic news, let's hope Fiesty can reap the rewards!

[banjobacon]

I think they should put java in instead of the free java

They're both free now. One is Sun's Java. The other is GNU's Java.

[ihavenoname]

They're both free now. One is Sun's Java. The other is GNU's Java.

right.