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alecjw
October 24th, 2006, 10:28 PM
Ok, I'm going to try and make a howto of all of the ways of converting people to ubuntu. Please post your own.

Here are a few of mine:

* If you can get access to their computer, load it up with programs which will start up when they log on and slow their computer down a lot. I can only think of 2 right now: winzip and picozip.

* Don't give them a choice! If it's their first computer, odn't give them the choice of Windows. Pretend it doesn't exist. Install Ubuntu on their computer when they get it. I bet your relatives ask you to set up their computer for them. When you do, just install Ubuntu. Then, the most important step: THROW AWAY THE ******* RESTORE CD.

* Show off XGL/Compiz/Beryl to them. They'll be dead jealous and will ask if you can make their computer do it, so you say, "Yes, but you'll need Ubuntu." So you install it for them.

DoctorMO
October 24th, 2006, 10:30 PM
* Stick them in an ironmaiden, set fire to their village and torture their families until their surrender to the path of light.

jpkotta
October 24th, 2006, 10:39 PM
* If you can get access to their computer, load it up with programs which will start up when they log on and slow their computer down a lot. I can only think of 2 right now: winzip and picozip.


This seems a bit malicious and unethical, eh? Don't actively sabotage Windows, it will do fine on it's own. Besides, I can easily write a simple shell script to bring a Unix machine to it's knees.

The other two are OK, but you should be up front about things ("I'm going to replace Windows with Linux. It's better, you'll thank me later.")

aysiu
October 24th, 2006, 10:41 PM
You may want to check out this thread, too: How To: Convert Windows Users to Ubuntu (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58862)

Lord Illidan
October 24th, 2006, 10:47 PM
* If you can get access to their computer, load it up with programs which will start up when they log on and slow their computer down a lot. I can only think of 2 right now: winzip and picozip.

Lame, man, lame.. just go and trawl the web, download as much malware and adware as you can, let it stew for a couple of days and wait for the cursing to begin.. then step in and offer them a linux cd.


Don't give them a choice! If it's their first computer, odn't give them the choice of Windows. Pretend it doesn't exist. Install Ubuntu on their computer when they get it. I bet your relatives ask you to set up their computer for them. When you do, just install Ubuntu. Then, the most important step: THROW AWAY THE ******* RESTORE CD.

Good idea.


Show off XGL/Compiz/Beryl to them. They'll be dead jealous and will ask if you can make their computer do it, so you say, "Yes, but you'll need Ubuntu." So you install it for them.
Just be prepared to wade in when it stops working/crashes/games wont' work etc..

alecjw
October 24th, 2006, 10:55 PM
This seems a bit malicious and unethical, eh? Don't actively sabotage Windows, it will do fine on it's own. Besides, I can easily write a simple shell script to bring a Unix machine to it's knees.

The other two are OK, but you should be up front about things ("I'm going to replace Windows with Linux. It's better, you'll thank me later.")

"Oh, those 100 new icons in the taskbar? They're just useful programs which I installed for you."

Besides, as you said, they'll thank you later.

I'm planning to use this tactic on my parents' computer when they get it. They currently have an AMD XP 2000+ with 1/4GB RAM. It's running really slowly because all of the programs are fighting to run at startup. I bet it would run at the speed of light with Ubuntu, but it takes about 5 minutes to log on right now. When thay get their new Pentium D, dual core, it will work fast for a couple of days then slow down again. (Helped along by me). Thy'll say to me, "Why's this new computer running so slowly?" I'd check what programs are running and find, amongst others, norton insternat security and tell them, "It's your firewall." they'd reply, "But we need a firewall with all of these viruses and hackers." So I'd say, "Not if you used ubuntu."

Here's another idea. If you have Windows, type in the command:

shutdown -n <ip address of the person you want to convert> -r
And it will give them 30 seconds of warning before it restarts their computer. (provided that they don't have a firewall running) Then, just claim that, "It must have been a hacker. Windows is a security risk becuase it grants anyone access to your computer." Which is half true. There will be 2 possible outcomes: he/she gets a firewall, in whihc case you go throug the "Your computer's slow becuase you have a friewall" thing or he/she gets ubuntu.

Lord Illidan
October 24th, 2006, 11:04 PM
Actually, firewalls are a need for Ubuntu too.. ip-tables is Ubuntu's firewall. What Ubuntu doesn't have is spyware and malware.

alecjw
October 24th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Actually, firewalls are a need for Ubuntu too.. ip-tables is Ubuntu's firewall. What Ubuntu doesn't have is spyware and malware.

Which doesn't use up my entire processor :)

Lord Illidan
October 24th, 2006, 11:09 PM
Which doesn't use up my entire processor :)
point taken ;)

alecjw
October 24th, 2006, 11:16 PM
Another one: This one is VERY evil though. Install VNC server on their computer and.... I expect that you know whaere this is going. In fact, I'll do it now. Then, If you're feeling daring, tell them their credit card number whihc you intercepted as they typed it in.

No. That's too evil. But I'll give it a go.

skymt
October 24th, 2006, 11:16 PM
Actually, firewalls are a need for Ubuntu too.. ip-tables is Ubuntu's firewall. What Ubuntu doesn't have is spyware and malware.

No. Ubuntu has no open ports by default. Setting up an iptables firewall with a frontend like Firestarter does no harm, but no good either. There are very few cases where a software firewall is useful.

alecjw
October 24th, 2006, 11:18 PM
No. Ubuntu has no open ports by default. Setting up an iptables firewall with a frontend like Firestarter does no harm, but no good either. There are very few cases where a software firewall is useful.

I thought iptables was the software which actaully kept those ports closed.

skymt
October 24th, 2006, 11:27 PM
I thought iptables was the software which actaully kept those ports closed.

A "closed" port is just a port that no programs are listening to. iptables is mainly useful (on a desktop, anyway) for limiting access to services (web, email, SSH, etc) to certain networks and computers. If you don't run services, your ports are closed.

raul_
October 24th, 2006, 11:28 PM
Or just let windows do it's job....

DoctorMO
October 24th, 2006, 11:29 PM
alecjw, not quite iptables is a rule set for organising incomming connections. you hardly need a firewall if you have no ports to connect to. there is nothing to manage.

the ports are opened and managed by other parts of linux such as /etc/services.

Tux Aubrey
October 24th, 2006, 11:37 PM
If someone asks me to help them set up or fix their machine I just say "Sorry, I don't do windows".

After years of being the family geek, it usually starts a conversation in which the subject of Linux and Ubuntu comes up immediately. A demo clinches it.

Mind you, I'm also very much in favour of burning their villages too.

DoctorMO
October 24th, 2006, 11:49 PM
I think that will help, I see more and more family geeks moving towards ubuntu and thus in time they will adobt a no windows foobar rule too.

TheWizzard
October 25th, 2006, 12:00 AM
No. Ubuntu has no open ports by default. Setting up an iptables firewall with a frontend like Firestarter does no harm, but no good either. There are very few cases where a software firewall is useful.

dude, that's ubuntu's default of iptables. you can change it with firestarter ot guarddog (my favourite).

skymt
October 25th, 2006, 12:11 AM
dude, that's ubuntu's default of iptables. you can change it with firestarter ot guarddog (my favourite).

Actually, iptables in Ubuntu defaults to letting everything through. It's secure because there are no services listening. Picture a big room. On one side of the room is a bunch of people (the Internet). The other side is empty (your computer with no services running). You don't want anyone on your side of the room to listen to the mindless jabber of the Internet side. Sure, you could put up a sound barrier (configure iptables), but why bother? There's nobody on your side to be bothered by the yak-yak-yak on the Internet side.

TheWizzard
October 25th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Actually, iptables in Ubuntu defaults to letting everything through. It's secure because there are no services listening.

ok, then i misunderstood :???: