Looking forward to gnome 3!

[UbuWu]

Have a look at these links and judge for yourself :grin:

http://software.xkopex.com/gnome/gnome3.html
http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmsphend/gnome/scoop.html
http://software.xkopex.com/nautilus/index.html
http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmsphend/gnome/autofile.html
http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmsphend/gnome/nautilus.html
http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmsphend/gnome/rhythmbox.html
http://www.daimi.au.dk/~kamstrup/articles/G3-ideas.html

Too bad we will have to do with gnome 2.12 in breezy...

[somuchfortheafter]

yeap its a shame we have to wait until sting my a** off scorpion to get gnome 3 .....

[totalshredder]

If the 'scoop' gets made, that would be purely awesome. It would need to be a little smaller (I'm not wasting desk space), but it's an awesome idea.

Most of that stuff may not be even implemented though.

Luke

[Stormy Eyes]

Have a look at these links and judge for yourself

I like it. I like it. Gimme-gimme-gimme-gimme!

[escuchamezz]

not as good as Enlightment 17 :smile:

[TravisNewman]

not as good as Enlightment 17 :smile:
um. I'll disagree there ;)

Gnome 3 looks like something I could USE, whereas E17 (at this point, though I expect different in the future) is something I can look at! I have played around using E17 as the WM for Gnome, and maaan that's slick.

But yeah, Gnome 3-- *drool* If they DO accomplish all that, I'll be in heaven.,

[Nis]

"Gnome 3" or "Gnom3"? :)

[TravisNewman]

"Gnome 3" or "Gnom3"? :)
HOPEFULLY Gnome won't sink to the level of popularizing "1337 speak"

[Jesus Franco]

I hope thats not all gnome 3 will have to offer. With Tiger out really soon, and Longhorn showing off stuff M$ is going to do *eventually* e17 might be my window manager. A few add-on cant be all they have to offer. O:) I know these are just ideas and stuff But I am hoping that gtk-3 will have a vector based engine far more better than what we see today in lets say..OSX....I have looked into those Cairo intergration packages. And it doesnt work....so that sucks. :-? I just hope Gnome gets more features. Bloated is not what I want...if I wanted a bloated window manager I'd use kde, Gnome is good, fast and clean. :smile:

[kahping]

...Bloated is not what I want...if I wanted a bloated window manager I'd use kde, Gnome is good, fast and clean. :smile:

umm... u mean, if I wanted a bloated window manager I'd use Windows with it's explorer.exe ;-)

kahping

[poofyhairguy]

Gnome 3 looks like something I could USE, whereas E17 (at this point, though I expect different in the future) is something I can look at! I have played around using E17 as the WM for Gnome, and maaan that's slick.

I must now do this....

[TravisNewman]

yes you must. Oh yes. I'll probably do that permanently when E17 goes gold.

[ubuntu_demon]

I couldn't find anything about a release date for gnome 3. Is it going to be the one after 2.14 ? around next year april ?

Does anyone know ?

Is it for certain that cairo will be integrated with gnome 3 ?

[doclivingston]

On the topic of new ideas in Rhythmbox, there has been a fairly big amount of discussion (and coding) going on on the rhythmbox-devel list <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/rhythmbox-devel/>, and hopefully we'll see results for Gnome 2.12.

Some of the features that are being worked on and a queue (mostly done), better automatic playlists (discussing), cd-burner support (done), album art support (mostly done), and a heap of small UI/backend stuff. I don't think there has been any work on visualisations (yet), but we can only hope.

If anyone want to join the list and give us their opinion/pet peeve/offer help I'm sure everyone would benefit from more ideas. The list has really started getting some use in the last month going from one message a week at the start of the year to about 20 a day at the moment.

[Jesus Franco]

:?

Dont remind me! that task alone taks 40 megs minimum... :?

Also check out this story...

http://ryanthiessen.com/static/gnome-3-ideas.html

\\:D/

[seven]

looks great, but when gnome 3 will be out?
more than a year (or even 2) I guess :(

[ubuntu_demon]

:?

Dont remind me! that task alone taks 40 megs minimum... :?

Also check out this story...

http://ryanthiessen.com/static/gnome-3-ideas.html

\\:D/
cool article !
I agree with the writer

[UbuWu]

I couldn't find anything about a release date for gnome 3. Is it going to be the one after 2.14 ? around next year april ?


From the rumours it looks like it will probably take two years... ](*,)

[kahping]

...
Also check out this story...

http://ryanthiessen.com/static/gnome-3-ideas.html

\\:D/

i like the writer's ideas on storage. but, what happens when i already have my own organization of files in my harddisk?

using arbritary file organization, would it follow what the user already has(wow! how did they make it so smart?)? or would it just reorganise the entire drive(really slow...)? or would it just create more folders and ignore my already existing folder organization, thus causing loads of dis-organization to occur(bad bad)?

i hope they find a nice way of resolving this. i wouldn't want to re-organize everything everytime i save a new file in my drive (not that i'm not already doing that :-P )

kahping

[eldrich_rebello]

the circular menu idea is nice .very nice indeed.but it also creates a practical problem.what if you have a number of menu entries,sub entries and so on..won't the sectors get a little too small?other ideas concerning the file manager were interesting.should be implemented in gnome soon

[KiwiNZ]

I started my Linux life using KDE , hey it takes a while to get windows out of your system:razz:, I then started to use either or , now I tend to use Gnome about 90% , I have KDE on Ubuntu just for support reasons now .

I really like the way Gnome is going , that team is doing an awesome job.

[Jesus Franco]

I think the current file structer of the linux filesystem is GOOD. Years ahead of windows. NT tried to fix that problem and cause more confusion for some people.

What gnome should try to do is make a search that is built into the filesystem at the lowest level of the OS as possible. Thus taking little system resources. Even if it means using a custom kernel. :-\"

[az]

Gnome is where kde was a few years ago. Kde got off to a start because they used a ready-made commercial toolkit (QT). Gnome was built from Free software from the ground up, with the developers having to build their own tools.

From what I heard, the Gnome 3 libraries are just concepts, as of yet. Gnome2 is fairly new. The thing is. there are many many more users and contributers to free software now than even just a few years ago. This makes for faster development.

Gnome also has made strides in usability, and I think that trend will continue.

Have you see the wobbly windows?
http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots

[latrine]

Funny... seeing the images on link1, it resembles longhorn... except that it isn't blue... are we copy/pasting ideas again?

From this point of view I believe enlightment 17 is doing something much more "adventurouse" in the future line desktop work... and believe me... I know many people who moved on to windows XP only because of thee eye candy stuff... If they saw enlightment 17 at work... They would be very puzzled...

I am appologist of keeping it simple but beautifull...

Mac OS X does this in a great fashion!

[sapo]

I dont like sidebars [-X

[UbuWu]

The sidebar in explorer in windows xp is actually very useful compared to the one in nautilus (in browser mode). It shows previews and information about files, whereas nautilus only shows very big in which directory you are...

[kassetra]

Also check out this story...
http://ryanthiessen.com/static/gnome-3-ideas.html


This idea would kill me. All of my files are organized, tagged, labeled, and categorized. I open multiple documents / types of documents at a time (it's called a project), within a single "concept" or for a single "client" ... I would be massively unproductive not being able to access JUST the files from a single client. And I don't want to search EVERY time for those project files... or even use a saved search! What if I only want the PSD files from that one client - but then need to cross-reference files of an affiliate? What if I only want the PDFs from the clients on the east coast? I have to create a search and save it for EACH of these options, every time I change a parameter? No. Thank. You.

[Lovechild]

The current idea is to build ontop of what we already have, there really should ever be a 3.0 release. Jeff wants 10% of the global desktop market by 2010, that gives us 9 release cycles.. so we have to work hard to make GNOME rock.

please watch the Project TOPAZ videio from this years GUADEC.

Areas I want to see improve:

global menus (like MacOS no window has it's own menubar)

translation integration: to get 10% it's much easier to make a bigger pie - let's aim at getting GNOME translated into all african languages e.g. it's much easier to use GNOME if you can understand what the dialogs say - and please focus on correct translations not technical ones so GNOME can be used in schools, governments, etc.

death to filebrowsing (yes..): I don't ever want to use nautilus again. I open documents with AbiWord, music files in Rhythmbox, etc. Why should I care where files are placed on my harddrive. This is where technology like GNOME storage (and to a lesser degree beagle) enter the picture. We need to use more metadata and less guessing. (I have an entire talk on this subject - entitled "death to FHS and other brutal acts of rethinking"). I don't care where stuff goes.. this would be great for i18n btw.

People as top level objects, completely taskbased driven UI - I want to click "write mail" not "open evolution" and I want it to open directly to a composer window, not to a big confusing application like evolution. I want more integration between applications - so I can have a people browser that handles interesting stuff like contact data, presence, searches, etc.

More bling, useful bling mind you not just seethrough windows and wank - when I highlight a window the other stuff should greyscale (panel included) so focus is on that window visually. I want realtime animation in the UI. That type of stuff.

Stuff should just work, stuff like package installation (see the Package Abstraction Layer and to a degree the radical UI talks in autopackage.. I think it was that project that had an excellent idea for just clicking stuff on the webpage and the program would get installed).

More security, I want every single application governed by SELinux, GNOME should be able to sneeze without having it in some required functionality file by the program author. I don't want people to ever worry about spyware again and the likes. Safe by default say it with me people!

Acessability, this is important without this support it's hard to be considered a true alternative for government rollouts e.g. There has been slacking in this area sadly, it was a really good selling point for GNOME2. (note: I work with handicapped people, I've seen daily the special requirements for such people - let's make their lives easier and get a piece of that pie..)

I know I'll do what I can to help out (currently I translate software, but I should have time to learn python and java on top of coding knowledge), I strongly encourage you all to pitch in, it'll be fun.. and there'll be beer [1]

[1] no guarantees on the availability of beer