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hanzomon4
October 20th, 2006, 03:24 AM
I found this article Credit card firms cut off AllofMP3.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15323093/).
Never used the service my self but the ability to download to whatever format with no DRM was enticing.
Too bad about the questionable legality :(

maniacmusician
October 20th, 2006, 05:53 AM
not really suprising, to be honest.

mrgnash
October 20th, 2006, 07:43 AM
That's too bad :(

.t.
October 20th, 2006, 09:17 AM
Damn. I haven't needed to top up my account in a while, but my sister (using MasterCard) did and was unable. I just thought it was a temporary problem. That is a bummer, as I have a Visa card.

argie
October 20th, 2006, 09:39 AM
Well, 128kbps stuff is free now, though still DRM infected, I think.

ComplexNumber
October 20th, 2006, 12:41 PM
I found this article Credit card firms cut off AllofMP3.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15323093/).
Never used the service my self but the ability to download to whatever format with no DRM was enticing.
Too bad about the questionable legality :(
it wasn't of "questionable" legality at all. i fact, it was perfectly legal. its just that american record companies are getting scared because they want to keep their prices artificially high, and allofmp3 is big threat to them. whats more, they have leaned on visa and master card and others to back them up. these american companies are the same type as the RIAA. scumbags, in other words.

FISHERMAN
October 20th, 2006, 12:43 PM
it wasn't of "questionable" legality at all. i fact, it was perfectly legal.

It is only legal in Russia.As soon as you eport(=buy&download them in a Western country) the music files become illegal.

FISHERMAN
October 20th, 2006, 12:49 PM
TBH, I don't know why this site is so popular.
If you are a moral person you'll probably pay to get your music legally(CD,iTunes,...).

If you have no moral problems with piracy you can illegaly download nearly everything for free.
But why do you want to pay some Russian for the same illegal stuff? ](*,)

ComplexNumber
October 20th, 2006, 12:49 PM
It is only legal in Russia.As soon as you eport(=buy&download them in a Western country) the music files become illegal.
yeah, but thats not their problem. and given that they are based in russia, they not breaking any laws.

FISHERMAN
October 20th, 2006, 12:52 PM
yeah, but thats not their problem. and given that they are based in russia, they not breaking any laws.

Yes, allofMP3 doesn't do anything illegaly, but most people(Europeans, Americans,...) who buy their stuff break European/American/... laws.

cunawarit
October 20th, 2006, 01:17 PM
They have gotten away with it so far because they are exploiting a loophole in Russian law where because there is no physical media being sold, then it has been difficult to prove that there is actual piracy taking place. It is simply a case of Russian law being too slow to adapt to the times, not a case of everyone persecuting an innocent party.

Allofmp3.com have also further attempted to set up the illusion of legality by arguing that they are paying royalties via the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. However, for this to be legal the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society needs permission from the record companies in order to distribute THEIR music and they certainly don’t have that!

Is it legal in your country? Well FISHERMAN assumes wrong, it isn’t illegal to get music from allofmp3.com in all western countries. In some countries it is entirely legal.

I personally think they are nothing but pirates... You may have issues with the record companies, fine. But the fact remains that when you get a song from allofmp3.com the artists get nothing.

stimpack
October 20th, 2006, 02:50 PM
I personally think they are nothing but pirates... You may have issues with the record companies, fine. But the fact remains that when you get a song from allofmp3.com the artists get nothing.

The fact allofmp3.com does not let me contribute to someones million dollar drug habit, makes me very sad.

ComplexNumber
October 20th, 2006, 03:33 PM
the people that benefit from allofmp3 are the independent musicians. those that don't are the likes of avril lavigne, britney spears, and all other boy/girl band trash that the RIAA and others sign up to make a quick buck on the cheap. allofmp3 are benefitting musicians and music. we want more good and real musicians, and those are the people who allofmp3 are benefitting.

argie
October 20th, 2006, 05:28 PM
TBH, I don't know why this site is so popular.
If you are a moral person you'll probably pay to get your music legally(CD,iTunes,...).

If you have no moral problems with piracy you can illegaly download nearly everything for free.
But why do you want to pay some Russian for the same illegal stuff? ](*,)

Hmm? I wonder how much of the money goes to those who put most effort into it. That's why I try to buy CDs off independent artists. That and the fact that these musicians usually sound better to me than so-called mainstream music.

bonzodog
October 20th, 2006, 05:39 PM
They are now accepting Mastercard again, but not visa. I topped up yesterday :D.

ComplexNumber
October 20th, 2006, 06:22 PM
Hmm? I wonder how much of the money goes to those who put most effort into it. That's why I try to buy CDs off independent artists. That and the fact that these musicians usually sound better to me than so-called mainstream music.
thats exactly what i do. i've spent 100's of £ at cdbaby.com, which is the largest online retailer of independent artists in the world. cdbaby also gives far more to the indepedent musician than others. i quote:

Cool thing: in a regular record deal or distribution deal, musicians only make $1-$2 per CD, if they ever get paid by their label. When selling through CD Baby, musicians make $6-$12 per CD, and get paid weekly
http://cdbaby.com/about



whats more is that it is anti microsoft :D. i quote:

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No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this website.
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personally, i find buying mp3's to be a waste

argie
October 20th, 2006, 06:45 PM
thats exactly what i do. i've spent 100's of £ at cdbaby.com, which is the largest online retailer of independent artists in the world. cdbaby also gives far more to the indepedent musician than others. i quote:
*snip*

Thanks! I owe you one. Bookmarked.

Here's one I came across recently:
http://amie.st/
They claim to give 70% to the musician, and the songs are sold on some more-popularity => greater-cost model. But then, they're sold as mp3s.

CDs just have better quality.

maniacmusician
October 20th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Don't know if you guys will really appreciate this; some would still see it as harmful to the musician. but lala.com is a reliable site for trading CD's. My policies on being kind to musicians depends heavily on who the artist is. For instance, I refuse to buy CDs from artists who are no longer of this world. I don't really think anyone has the right to make money from their music after they're gone. But that's just my opinion, so shush flames.

ComplexNumber
October 20th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Thanks! I owe you one. Bookmarked.

Here's one I came across recently:
http://amie.st/
They claim to give 70% to the musician, and the songs are sold on some more-popularity => greater-cost model. But then, they're sold as mp3s.

CDs just have better quality.
its funny that you mention that side because i've just gone to another site that i shop at for independent musicians sometimes called cdstreet.com(now called backstagecommerce.com). i just clicked on the link for 'Artist Services' at the top, and it took me to........amie.st


btw if you live outisde of the US, its advisable to buy in bulk of about 6 cd's from cdbaby to get the most economical shipping rates. if you're only buying 1 or 2 cd's at a time, you can get stung for hefty shipping costs (PLUS import duty). when the postman delievered the cd's to my door, most of the time they would ask me to sign something from the postoffice and ask me to pay import duty (but not always :confused: ). you can see the shipping chart here:
http://cdbaby.com/help#shipping