TLE
October 16th, 2006, 01:07 PM
Do ATI or NVIDIA's official drivers work for you in Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper)
Hey everybody.
Utilizing the 3D acceleration on those fancy graphics cards people have seems to be one of the things that give
people a lot of trouble, and therefore is also enveloped in a lot of rumors about what works and what don't. The purpose of this poll is to try to shed some light on this through statistics.
In order to make this as fair and useable a result as possible, please try to conform to the following guidelines
Vote only if your situation accurately fits one of the options.
( * NOTE from poll options * ) When you evaluate how fast the acceleration work please remember, that if you are running games designed for Windows through Wine or Cedega, you are in fact running a "translation" layer in between the game and your system, that is bound to use some resources and therefore you cannot necessarily expect the same speed as you get with the same system and the same game in Windows. Furthermore, if the 3D acceleration is very slow, giving real low (depending on your hardware of course) frame rates in `glxgears -printfps`, then your 3D rendering is probably not hardware accelerated at all and you should choose the "...DO NOT..." option instead of the "...DO give me 3D acceleration. It is slower..." option.
If you reply "...DO NOT..." please be as sure as you can that it is not the application you use (Wine/Cedega or various games) but in fact the graphics drivers that are to blame. This can be investigated by gathering info on whether that particular application works for other people and if you did what you could to set it up right.
The poll options do not include any info on how easy or difficult it was to make it work. This is on purpose, as it would make it far to complicated to include all the different permutations of that also. In short, ease of installation might be the subject of another poll but not this one.
This poll of for Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper) only. The reason for doing it now (right before Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper)'s successor is released) is that now everybody has had a chance to try and make it work, and in fact, if you have been working on it since the release of Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper) and it still doesn't work, then it probably won't at all ;)
I will make more of these polls in the future, regularly right before every release to track the development of this issue. If sufficiently many people vote in order for it to be a sound statistical base (say ~100), I'll forward the result to NVIDIA and ATI for them to use as they see fit.
Please also make a post describing you experience with these official drivers.
Let's keep those votes coming
Regards TLE
PS: Regarding the formulation of the options. There are, off course, a lot of ways to define the categories for this poll. I have done everything that I can, to ensure that these categories are as clear and unambiguous as possible. I have additionally discussed the formulation with several other people (Thank you AskHL, Genrij, tseliot) before posting to try and ensure this. Therefore, if you have questions about the boundaries in the definitions, please post in this thread, but if you think they are inconsistent, please PM me instead since formulation-discussions, whether the critique is valid or not, tend to kill polls very quickly.
PPS: There are a lot of subjects related to this one that often initiate discussion: "How Wine works, what Wine is and is not", "ideological discussions about Wine vs. Cedega". Please make those discussion elsewhere and keep the posts here related to the subject.
[EDIT]
Thanks for voting everyone. I got the 100 votes i was aiming at.
When I get around to it (I'll probably install edgy first) I'll make a wiki page containing the result of this poll and post a link to it here. Later on when we change distro again I'll make another poll and update the wiki-page with some statistics.
Regards TLE
Hey everybody.
Utilizing the 3D acceleration on those fancy graphics cards people have seems to be one of the things that give
people a lot of trouble, and therefore is also enveloped in a lot of rumors about what works and what don't. The purpose of this poll is to try to shed some light on this through statistics.
In order to make this as fair and useable a result as possible, please try to conform to the following guidelines
Vote only if your situation accurately fits one of the options.
( * NOTE from poll options * ) When you evaluate how fast the acceleration work please remember, that if you are running games designed for Windows through Wine or Cedega, you are in fact running a "translation" layer in between the game and your system, that is bound to use some resources and therefore you cannot necessarily expect the same speed as you get with the same system and the same game in Windows. Furthermore, if the 3D acceleration is very slow, giving real low (depending on your hardware of course) frame rates in `glxgears -printfps`, then your 3D rendering is probably not hardware accelerated at all and you should choose the "...DO NOT..." option instead of the "...DO give me 3D acceleration. It is slower..." option.
If you reply "...DO NOT..." please be as sure as you can that it is not the application you use (Wine/Cedega or various games) but in fact the graphics drivers that are to blame. This can be investigated by gathering info on whether that particular application works for other people and if you did what you could to set it up right.
The poll options do not include any info on how easy or difficult it was to make it work. This is on purpose, as it would make it far to complicated to include all the different permutations of that also. In short, ease of installation might be the subject of another poll but not this one.
This poll of for Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper) only. The reason for doing it now (right before Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper)'s successor is released) is that now everybody has had a chance to try and make it work, and in fact, if you have been working on it since the release of Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper) and it still doesn't work, then it probably won't at all ;)
I will make more of these polls in the future, regularly right before every release to track the development of this issue. If sufficiently many people vote in order for it to be a sound statistical base (say ~100), I'll forward the result to NVIDIA and ATI for them to use as they see fit.
Please also make a post describing you experience with these official drivers.
Let's keep those votes coming
Regards TLE
PS: Regarding the formulation of the options. There are, off course, a lot of ways to define the categories for this poll. I have done everything that I can, to ensure that these categories are as clear and unambiguous as possible. I have additionally discussed the formulation with several other people (Thank you AskHL, Genrij, tseliot) before posting to try and ensure this. Therefore, if you have questions about the boundaries in the definitions, please post in this thread, but if you think they are inconsistent, please PM me instead since formulation-discussions, whether the critique is valid or not, tend to kill polls very quickly.
PPS: There are a lot of subjects related to this one that often initiate discussion: "How Wine works, what Wine is and is not", "ideological discussions about Wine vs. Cedega". Please make those discussion elsewhere and keep the posts here related to the subject.
[EDIT]
Thanks for voting everyone. I got the 100 votes i was aiming at.
When I get around to it (I'll probably install edgy first) I'll make a wiki page containing the result of this poll and post a link to it here. Later on when we change distro again I'll make another poll and update the wiki-page with some statistics.
Regards TLE