All you need is Ubuntu - Clinton says so! ;)

[jdtate101]

See..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5388182.stm

Well not strictly linux related, but when people go to find more about ubuntu on the web...guess where they end up ???

[lwr]

Sweet. Maybe the Labour party will like the idea, and end up using Ubuntu Linux? If they did, I'd vote for them. Anyway, it's all good promotion for Ubuntu, although why the BBC chose to display an Ubuntu thong, I don't know.

[coffeecat]

In that link is:


Archbishop Desmond Tutu, in his book No Future Without Forgiveness, says: "Ubuntu is very difficult to render into a Western language... It is to say, 'My humanity is caught up, is inextricably bound up, in what is yours.'"

...

In his definition, it means that there is a common bond between people - and when one person's circumstances improve, everyone gains and if one person is tortured or oppressed, everyone is diminished.

Reading those words, I was reminded of the famous ones of John Donne:



No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

But for the whole quotation, see this (http://isu.indstate.edu/ilnprof/ENG451/ISLAND/text.html)

Sorry to go somewhat off-topic, but it seemed appropriate.

[Spif]

Hehe, I wondered about that thong too. Maybe they thought it was related to the real african meaning of Ubuntu and not Ubuntu Linux. But still... a thong?!

[skymt]

Someone send him a Shipit! ;)

[DoctorMO]

I always wondered if I should send an Ubuntu CD to Prince Charly. he's sometimes into these kinds of things.

[mo79]

Just something noteworthy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5388182.stm

[kestasjk]

Hehehe I just saw this on the BBC and checked over here to see if it was already posted.

Pretty cool to see Ubuntu the OS mentioned on such a large website, I wonder if they've ever mentioned SuSe or Debian? Though the speech itself didn't have anything to do with Ubuntu Linux of course ;)

[x64Jimbo]

Hmmm I'm a bit upset that they featured the Ubuntu Linux logo in a picture in the article without once mentioning it. They also ripped off the image from cafepress, from what it looks like. Boo, BBC.

[kleeman]

Huh???

Check this out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm

Note the thong with our favourite distro half way down the page.
I feel a rising hype tide coming on (further).

[Jiraiya_sama]

Hehe, I wondered about that thong too. Maybe they thought it was related to the real african meaning of Ubuntu and not Ubuntu Linux. But still... a thong?!

what do you say to a girl wearing one of those? "Your open-source thong makes me hot!"?

[dkitty]

I don't know. I don't usually go for open-source thongs. They itch. :p

I saw this story on BBC news web site and was going to post about it. Someone beat me to it. I couldn't stop grinning when I read the story. Dig it.

[Reshin]

what do you say to a girl wearing one of those? "Your open-source thong makes me hot!"?

Tell her about the meaning of open source ;)

"Sharing is caring"


End_sex_jokes();

[Onyros]

Hahaha, beautiful! Now we can all say that Bill Clinton says "What the world needs is Ubuntu!"

Without knowing, he may have given Ubuntu (the OS) a whole lot of publicity :P

[Shinzetsu]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm

'All you need is ubuntu.'

I was bored browsing BBC so I thought I'd share it with you :D

[lintroduccion]

Ubuntu thong.........

[justin whitaker]

That's awesome! I suppose that if someone gave Clinton a CD, he'd use it. When he is not off saving the World. :mrgreen:

"My humanity is caught up, is inextricably bound up, in what is yours"

[SpamEraser]

Have a look at today's cartoon in The Guardian - it seems that Bill Clinton has put the word "ubuntu" into the vocabulary of a lot of people who've never heard of it before:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/archive/0,,1284265,00.html

[kop316]

The same thing happened at my college. The Dean or Vice-Dean of students in the University of MD, College Park used the word Ubuntu for describing how we should act to one another.

[bruce89]

Shame it was at the labour party conference though, nobody would have heard that then.

[gr8whitesavage]

Bill Clinton gets Ubuntu, great. Fabulous. Why is the BBC trying to slander him by showing a picture of a thong with the Ubuntu logo on it. They don't mention anything about the software, distrobution, etc. Nothing. WTF?

I'm angry that they used the thong and didn't mention what the hell is actually going on. Seriously, why did they show a thong and not any other picture about the wonderful distro that we use and work so hard for.

Anybody else feel this way?

I'm so angry I can't even begin to convey whats going through my head right now about this. I mostly always enjoy BBC, this is a damn shame. They have a comments thread open on the page. I'm going to cool off and give them a piece of my mind. ](*,)

[sanderella]

I just emailed the BBC with our url www.ubuntu.com. Let's hope they print it online. :rolleyes:

[Kindred]

Bill Clinton gets Ubuntu, great. Fabulous. Why is the BBC trying to slander him by showing a picture of a thong with the Ubuntu logo on it. They don't mention anything about the software, distrobution, etc. Nothing. WTF?

I'm angry that they used the thong and didn't mention what the hell is actually going on. Seriously, why did they show a thong and not any other picture about the wonderful distro that we use and work so hard for.

Anybody else feel this way?

I'm so angry I can't even begin to convey whats going through my head right now about this. I mostly always enjoy BBC, this is a damn shame. They have a comments thread open on the page. I'm going to cool off and give them a piece of my mind. ](*,)


I think it was funny, Ubuntu the linux distro hardly relates to the story, showing that picture is more than I would actually expect of them.

[mishranurag]

Bill Clinton told the Labour conference to get into ubuntu

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm

[bruce89]

Yes, it does seem bizarre to have that picture "promoting" Ubuntu (Linux distribution) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29) when the article is about Ubuntu (Ideology) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28ideology%29).

[aysiu]

Someone beat you to it (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267291).

[Lord Illidan]

cool!

[DoctorMO]

The bbc have always been against Linux for some reason, getting them to air Linux is like pulling teeth.

We wouldn't know if bill clinton was talking about the software and the beeb just tried to spin it (although I admit this is unlikly)

[bruce89]

The bbc have always been against Linux for some reason, getting them to air Linux is like pulling teeth.

We wouldn't know if bill clinton was talking about the software and the beeb just tried to spin it (although I admit this is unlikly)

There was also an article in The Times today (page 25), and from it, it is quite clear he meant the ideology.

[vayu]

Yes, it does seem bizarre to have that picture "promoting" Ubuntu (Linux distribution) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29) when the article is about Ubuntu (Ideology) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28ideology%29).

I think they just wanted to put a thong on the same page as Bill Clinton.

[cptjaben]

Bill Clinton is dead on in this statement. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm)

[aysiu]

Bill Clinton embraces Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267291&highlight=bill+clinton)
Even Bill Clinton likes Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267160&highlight=bill+clinton)
Bill Clinton loves Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267316&highlight=bill+clinton)

[LostShootingStar]

Haha. thats awesome.

i love how they show a picture of a thong with our logo on it..

[bobbybobington]

anyone up for sending bill a shipit cd?

[wdo_will]

If I had his address, I'd order one for him right now ;)

Just another reason for be to like the former President ;). Maybe he's a member on these forums using an alias 8)

[DoctorMO]

I know his old address was 'The White House, Washington DC, United States' sometimes people set up mail forwarding.

[rfruth]

Lets not forget Hillary ! http://clinton.senate.gov/

[DoctorMO]

It's fantastic really, in one news article Bill Clinton has managed to double ubuntu's marketing exposure outside of tech news.

[benson444]

There was also this from The Guardian's G2.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1883655,00.html

[Kulgan]

I'll bet that the thong comes from a quick google search "ubuntu"...

[pianoboy3333]

Huh???

Check this out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm

Note the thong with our favourite distro half way down the page.
I feel a rising hype tide coming on (further).

I ummmm... think he was actually using the actual African word "ubuntu" in that transcript...

[kleeman]

I ummmm... think he was actually using the actual African word "ubuntu" in that transcript...
No kidding! :cool: :D :p

[dolphinsonar]

I must complicate the issue by asking the question:

Is it good to have an African philosophy coopted by a Linux community? I mean, we stand for similar things, but doesn't the African word have more roots, and therefor more right to use it? Maybe we can share?

I would just be pissed if someone took my religious/cultural value, and made a distro out of it. Of course it would look pretty stupid calling a GNU/Linux distibution solopsist-hedonism with tendencies toward pessimistic hatred of mankind.

[DoctorMO]

Out of all the names in all the world is ubuntu that silly?

Windows - a transparent or semi transparent area often made out of glass OR a virtual section of a screen independant in movement containing functionality in the form of an application. (the second is why the trademark windows is invalid in the computer world)

Apple - A soft fruit that comes in a number of varities heavly cultivated my humans.

Mac - A rain coat.

Dos - to perform an act.

Unix - Sounds like eunuchs, many castrated male servents.

[RussianVodka]

Out of all the names in all the world is ubuntu that silly?

Windows - a transparent or semi transparent area often made out of glass OR a virtual section of a screen independant in movement containing functionality in the form of an application. (the second is why the trademark windows is invalid in the computer world)

Apple - A soft fruit that comes in a number of varities heavly cultivated my humans.

Mac - A rain coat.

Dos - to perform an act.

Unix - Sounds like eunuchs, many castrated male servents.

Unix makes sence. It's a system which was designed to be better suited for scientific research than the Multics OS. Originaly it was called Unics.

Dos makes sence. It allows you to perform an act.

Mac makes sence because it protects the user from the horrors of customizing their own computer (Not everyone is an computer savy nerd).

Apple makes sence because it sounds better than Bannana.

And windows makes sence because you get to work with windows. Though I don't know what "XP" stands for. I guess they just used it because X is a cool letter, if you have the mentality of a 12 year old...

And Ubuntu makes sence because it's all about the community.

[angkor]

Though I don't know what "XP" stands for.

Doesn't that mean eXPerience?

[Reshin]

Doesn't that mean eXPerience?

yep

[macogw]

I think it was funny, Ubuntu the linux distro hardly relates to the story, showing that picture is more than I would actually expect of them.


Bill Clinton gets Ubuntu, great. Fabulous. Why is the BBC trying to slander him by showing a picture of a thong with the Ubuntu logo on it. They don't mention anything about the software, distrobution, etc. Nothing. WTF?

At the end they say there's an Ubuntu University, , , and open-source operating system.

[RAV TUX]

Great, pass out the cigars.

[ndefontenay]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm

I just wish they would talk a little more about us : /

I thought for a second that Bill Clinton had said: "Use Unbutu, it's the best OS on earth!".

Bt he had to go into some political explanation about well being as politicians always do...

[karellen]

in my opinion it's more important the original meaning of the word "ubuntu" than an os. no matter what os ;)

[Zuph]

in my opinion it's more important the original meaning of the word "ubuntu" than an os. no matter what os ;)

This.

If the meaning of "Ubuntu" ever becomes exclusively associated with a computer operating system, then we have lost much more than we could ever hope to gain.

[karellen]

:)...anyway I do like the whole concept of Ubuntu

[graabein]

Well I think Ubuntu GNU/Linux represents the original meaning of the word pretty well.

[aysiu]

I've merged this with some of the other threads on the same topic.

[madddonkey255]

This morning I attended the University of Michigan's graduation ceremonies and their keynote speaker happened to be former President BIll Clinton. During the speech he probably spent 5 minutes explaining that he learned about the African idea of Ubuntu and the translation he used of, "I am because we are". I just thought it was awesome hearing one of the greats talk about Ubuntu. Hopefully soon I'll find a transcript of it and I'll post that because the speech really was amazing. I'd also like to point out the fact that Ubuntu really is such a fitting name because what seems to be one of the main reasons for the popularity of Ubuntu is this communtiy, which fits perfectly.
Nolan

[aysiu]

Apparently, he's been saying that since September (I've merged your thread with the one about the article where he says it), but it's good to know he's still embracing Ubuntu.

[rickggreen]

Saw this article on BBC News, everyone has to check this out.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5388182.stm

[Gargamella]

verry old one (september 2006)

[aysiu]

I wonder if Clinton would want to eat at this restaurant (http://www.ubuntunapa.com/index_flash.html).

[kleeman]

Napa Valley huh? Figures....

Bill hasn't been showing much humanity to Barack lately...

Needs to get back on track....

[uberdonkey5]

Leading from another thread. Bill clinton talked about the Ubuntu philosophy

http://www.stylelist.com/blog/2006/10/02/think-trendy-thoughts-ubuntu/

in the original meaning.

I was struck recently that the ubuntu philosophy (I mean the original meaning, not the computer meaning) is a different philosophy from what I grew up with culturally, and results in different actions. Its different to 'being good' or 'obeying the law'. I think in a world which is more connected, yet where people have different values, ubuntu, is an important concept which helps us have tolerance of others. Instead of seeing people with different values as wrong, we can have more tolerance and think, they are a part of our global community (just as you may think your young brother does something wrong, but you still care for them and help them).

Do you see any other positive or negative aspects of ubuntu (as a philosophy) and do you think it is useful for a modern age?

P.S. wikipedia definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)

[S0VERE1GN]

the ubuntu philosophy, like most other philosophies, can be used in many different situations in life. but like all philosophies and religions, isn't that rational in some situations.

STUDY all religions and philosophies: its called gnosticism, or "the gain of knowledge"

[Sealbhach]

Not so sure this bit would be popular:


A key concept associated with "unhu" is how we behave and interact in our various social roles, e.g., daughters-in-law traditionally kneel down when greeting their parents-in-law and serve them food as a sign of respect and maintain the highest standards of behaviour that will be extended or reflected to her family and all the women raised in that family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy))


.

[snowpine]

Not so sure this bit would be popular:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy))


.

I understand where you're going with that, however, "e.g." = "for example." I am sure that sons-in-law are also expected to respect their elders. :)

[koenn]

Not so sure this bit would be popular:

A key concept associated with "unhu" is how we behave and interact in our various social roles, e.g., daughters-in-law traditionally kneel down when greeting their parents-in-law and serve them food as a sign of respect and maintain the highest standards of behaviour that will be extended or reflected to her family and all the women raised in that family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy))

it helps if you keep the context intact :

... e.g., daughters-in-law traditionally kneel down when greeting their parents-in-law and serve them food as a sign of respect and maintain the highest standards of behaviour that will be extended or reflected to her family and all the women raised in that family. The daughter-in-law does this as part of the ambassadorial function that she plays and assumes at all times. ... and this does not imply that the woman is subordinate to the man, or sister to brother. ...

It also helps is you leave it in its cultural context, i.e. what's described here is (an example of) the way Zimbabwean (?) society 'implements" or "expresses" unhu. Doesn't necessarily mean you have to copy such behaviour to other cultures to have 'ubuntu"

[kahumba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVo1YkHiryE&NR=1
take that Microsoft! :)
just kidding

[Uncle Spellbinder]

That was great. Thanks for sharing that, kahumba.

[RT236]

Thanks!!!:)

[sudoer541]

Was he talking bout the ubuntu OS?

[Phrea]

Bazinga !!

Edit: Clinton reacting to Tutu.
Whatever you think of that man, or men, they really do mean ubuntu.

[aktiwers]

Was he talking bout the ubuntu OS?
Nope.

But good video anyways - thanks

[witeshark17]

Heh, as I thought, he doesn't know about the Linux distro... :popcorn:

[Kdar]

This is really old Thread, last post was in 2008, and started in 2006

[chucky chuckaluck]

See..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5388182.stm

Well not strictly linux related, but when people go to find more about ubuntu on the web...guess where they end up ???

They'd probably come across 'freedom franks' (a brand of hot dogs) when searching 'freedom', as well.

[RabbitWho]

Sweet. Maybe the Labour party will like the idea, and end up using Ubuntu Linux? If they did, I'd vote for them.


Jesus.....

[Tikkyca]

Ubuntu is awsome...

[dmizer]

Thread closed. Please do not raise the dead.