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Albi
September 17th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Honestly, the top 5 ones are tacky and overdone, or just plain ugly or hard on the eyes.

Opera has a much smaller user base and the themes on that are much better than in Firefox. Is it really that hard to make a decent skin?

Kernel Sanders
September 17th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Honestly, the top 5 ones are tacky and overdone, or just plain ugly or hard on the eyes.

Opera has a much smaller user base and the themes on that are much better than in Firefox. Is it really that hard to make a decent skin?

If thats true, then why dont YOU make one then :-\"

Š■eling
September 17th, 2006, 06:19 PM
What's wrong with the default one?

IYY
September 17th, 2006, 06:26 PM
The default one is nice. They are hiring a professional designer to make the default skin for the next version, so it might be even better. Besides, Edgy includes its own theme, based on the Tangerine icons.

aysiu
September 17th, 2006, 06:39 PM
I really don't see how Opera's themes are "better."

Can you show an Opera theme that's so great and doesn't have an equivalent Firefox theme and then explain what's so great about it?

matthew
September 17th, 2006, 06:43 PM
It's all personal taste, of course, but I like this one.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3008/

banjobacon
September 17th, 2006, 06:46 PM
Besides, Edgy includes its own theme, based on the Tangerine icons.

Awesome. I'll probably still use Epiphany, but I'm glad they did this.

nalmeth
September 17th, 2006, 07:01 PM
There are good and bad..

And really bad...

What gets me is how some really bad themes get such high ratings.

Crystal Dream (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1597/) is very under-rated
Abstract PC (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/525/) is another good theme

A couple of themes for FF 2b have me considering going beta:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1973/
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1611/

rodrigo666
September 17th, 2006, 07:30 PM
I agree, Opera's themes are so much better.

But that might be due to the fact that Opera is so much better also.

For instance, in this matter, when I want to switch a skin in Opera, I don't have to restart it, what don't happen in Firefox.

aysiu
September 17th, 2006, 07:42 PM
I agree, Opera's themes are so much better. And like the earlier post-er, you have no examples. How convenient.


But that might be due to the fact that Opera is so much better also. Why do people make statements like this? Do you just want to turn this into a major flamewar?

It's been done already.

Opera vs Firefox (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251120)
opera or firefox??? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204410)
Firefox or Opera with Ubuntu? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133730)

Albi
September 17th, 2006, 07:52 PM
I like firefox much better than opera, but the themes I find are much better for opera.

As for examples, just look at opera's site, it depends on your taste really, but the average quality I can say is definitely better.

Yes, it's a matter of taste, but I can't really see how themes like these get into the top 10:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/101/ looks like badly done IE with no color co-ordination
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3248/ lots of people like it, but very hard on the eyes
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2991/ so tacky...
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1360/ it's not even halloween...i don't even know what to say about this one
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3101/ hard on the eyes, and ugly
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/816/ no color co-ordination at all, ugly backdrop, and a PINK back button...

Yes there some good ones, right now I'm using the vista theme, and AbstractPC is good as well, but good ones are REALLY hard to find.

aysiu
September 17th, 2006, 08:00 PM
If we take your assumption that Opera's themes are "better" (whatever that means), have you considered that Opera's been around longer than Firefox?

Currently, Opera has 453 skins, and Firefox has only 216.

Opera's first release with that name (2.0) was in 1996. Firefox 0.8 was released in 2004.

I happen to like the Firefox themes out there very much. BlackJapan, iFox, and Red Cats (Blue Favor) are my favorites.

gruvsyco
September 17th, 2006, 09:21 PM
I personally use Flock (http://www.flock.com/) which is based on Firefox. I like the additional functionality and think the theme looks outstanding. Someone took the time to port the theme (http://area51.linux360.ro/firefox/firefox-flock-theme) backwards to Firefox.

Colonel Kilkenny
September 17th, 2006, 09:27 PM
I actually agree with this. Firefox has themes but somehow they seem to be quite tacky (at least for me). Of course Opera has horrible ones also but the relative amount isn't so big.

Generally speaking. Ok, people have different taste but look at those most downloaded themes at addons.mozilla.com. There are couple of horrifying themes in first page. I honestly can't figure out why someone would use those.. Best guess I'm able to do is that the part of users which download themes from there are more "programmers" than "graphic designers".

Well, it sure is a good thing that we have choices and everyone can use a theme which looks good to their eyes.

Ps. that human-theme looks somehow dirty or something. And the colors are too mild or mellow (I can't find the right word).

Kayne
September 17th, 2006, 10:26 PM
After seeing the skins at opera.com, I have to say that in average, the skins there look indeed better than these on Firefox' addon page.

It also amazes me how really really cluttered and ugly skins for Firefox make in into the "Top Rated" section.
Sometimes I think, 90% of the internet has no taste whatsoever and enjoys sticking knives into their eyes.

henriquemaia
September 17th, 2006, 10:31 PM
But isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder?

picpak
September 17th, 2006, 10:41 PM
I used to like this one (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/72/), but looking back, it's pretty ugly.

Johan!
September 17th, 2006, 10:43 PM
I use Firefox Vista 1.5
You can find this theme and more themes at crystalxp.net
http://www.crystalxp.net/galerie/en.cat.4.htm

Kayne
September 17th, 2006, 10:43 PM
But isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder?
Nothing against you but that phrase is so overused and saying it 1 zillion times doesn't make it quite right.

henriquemaia
September 17th, 2006, 10:47 PM
Nothing against you but that phrase is so overused and saying it 1 zillion times doesn't make it quite right.

Indeed, but it's still valid. And, for me, even more. When someone is so sure about something other find the exact opposite, one should consider it again.

jimmygoon
September 18th, 2006, 02:13 AM
First off, I think Opera is better at some things, but the freedom of firefox (both in license and extensions) is better FOR ME. As for themes though, I will argue with you there. That Opera looks like shart. It DOES! I'm sorry... but it looks terrible. #-oSo much wasted space and over plastification (like KDE)...

Bree
September 18th, 2006, 04:33 AM
Hmm, I like the firefox themes. Though right now I just have the default theme because I settle on a theme for more than a couple days.

bruce89
September 18th, 2006, 04:31 PM
I have to say that Firefox 2.0b2's theme is horrid. IMNSHO, Epiphany's boring old follow-the-GTK+-theme is best.

BLTicklemonster
September 18th, 2006, 04:41 PM
People actually look at "themes". I guess it's a personal thing, but I never understood that. It's a browser, use it to see stuff. ](*,)