Paprefs box ticked but is not creating a virtual output

[vidtek]

I'm using Kubuntu 24.04 Noble Numbat.

Paprefs simultaneous box ticked, but no virtual output created, nothing in pavcontrol and the little speaker icon bottom right on the taskbar right-clicked and show virtual devices is activated.

[thealchemist886]

Having the same problem. Any help?

[vidtek]

Having the same problem. Any help?

I've had no replies at all apart from yours. I have tried everything I can think of with no results. In the end I had to ditch Noble Numbat and revert to a backup of Jammy until such time as the devs can sort it out, I don't even know if theyt are aware of the issue. I have no idea how to report this to the devs, I've never done it, if you can help there please do it for both of us.

Cheers Tony.

[#&thj^%]

I don't even know if theyt are aware of the issue. I have no idea how to report this to the devs, I've never done it, if you can help there please do it for both of us.

Cheers Tony.

They are aware: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/currently-supported-releases/kubuntu-24-04-nitpick-noble-lts/software-support-bg/680811-paprefs-simultaneous-box-ticked-but-no-source-created

To file a Bug against it works like this:

ubuntu-bug paprefs


BTW won't "pavucontrol" help with that?

[vidtek]

They are aware: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/currently-supported-releases/kubuntu-24-04-nitpick-noble-lts/software-support-bg/680811-paprefs-simultaneous-box-ticked-but-no-source-created

To file a Bug against it works like this:

ubuntu-bug paprefs


BTW won't "pavucontrol" help with that?

pavucontrol no help as in first post.

Thanks for the links, one is obviously my own at Kubuntuforums, I will do a bug report thanks.

Tony

[#&thj^%]

What we need to remember is on 24.04 pulseaudio has been replaced now:

apt depends paprefs
paprefs
Depends: gnome-icon-theme
Depends: pulseaudio-module-gsettings
Depends: pulseaudio-module-zeroconf
Depends: libatkmm-1.6-1v5 (>= 2.28.4)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Depends: libgcc-s1 (>= 3.3.1)
Depends: libglib2.0-0t64 (>= 2.12.0)
Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1t64 (>= 2.66.7)
Depends: libgtk-3-0t64 (>= 3.0.0)
Depends: libgtkmm-3.0-1t64 (>= 3.24.8)
Depends: libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1)
Depends: libsigc++-2.0-0v5 (>= 2.2.0)
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)

[vidtek]

What we need to remember is on 24.04 pulseaudio has been replaced now:

apt depends paprefs
paprefs
Depends: gnome-icon-theme
Depends: pulseaudio-module-gsettings
Depends: pulseaudio-module-zeroconf
Depends: libatkmm-1.6-1v5 (>= 2.28.4)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Depends: libgcc-s1 (>= 3.3.1)
Depends: libglib2.0-0t64 (>= 2.12.0)
Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1t64 (>= 2.66.7)
Depends: libgtk-3-0t64 (>= 3.0.0)
Depends: libgtkmm-3.0-1t64 (>= 3.24.8)
Depends: libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1)
Depends: libsigc++-2.0-0v5 (>= 2.2.0)
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)



Replaced with what? Why? How do we get simultaneous/dual output now? Sorry if I seem a bit dim, but what have they actually done, can you give me more details please? Why have you listed the dependencies for pulseaudio?

Confused, Tony.

[#&thj^%]

Replaced with Wireplumber and Pipewire:

apt policy pulseaudio
pulseaudio:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1:16.1+dfsg1-5.1ubuntu1
Version table:
1:16.1+dfsg1-5.1ubuntu1 500
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oracular/universe amd64 Packages
1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10 -1
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I listed the Deps to paprefs and not pulseaudio to show you why.

If you need simultaneous/dual outputs use:

pactl load-module module-combine-sink

[vidtek]

Replaced with Wireplumber and Pipewire:

apt policy pulseaudio
pulseaudio:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1:16.1+dfsg1-5.1ubuntu1
Version table:
1:16.1+dfsg1-5.1ubuntu1 500
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oracular/universe amd64 Packages
1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10 -1
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I listed the Deps to paprefs and not pulseaudio to show you why.

If you need simultaneous/dual outputs use:

pactl load-module module-combine-sink

I already tried that command with zero results, No sink created. Mind you that was after trying all sorts of random ideas from Google.....EDIT. Just tried again with a clean Noble backup - it definitely does not work. The main issue seems to be tying the sink to the headphones, the headphones just do not show up in the audio settings, although paired correctly in bluetooth.

[#&thj^%]

Something is wrong then, that command works on my systems Arch, BSD, Debian, and Ubuntu, with Wireplumber.

wpctl status|grep blue
│ 101. SRS-XB22 [bluez5]
│ 109. output.combined_bluez_output.F8_DF_15_7F_64_73.1 [Stream/Output/Audio]
│ 102. bluez_capture_internal.F8:DF:15:7F:64:73 [Stream/Input/Audio/Internal]
│ * 105. bluez_input.F8:DF:15:7F:64:73 [Audio/Source]


wpctl status|grep combined
│ * 42. combined [Audio/Sink]
│ 58. output.combined_alsa_output.usb-DisplayLink_UOEOS_Laptop_Dock_4307293310436-02.analog-surround-41 [Stream/Output/Audio]
│ 62. output.combined_alsa_output.pci-0000_06_00.6.analog-stereo [Stream/Output/Audio]
│ 109. output.combined_bluez_output.F8_DF_15_7F_64_73.1 [Stream/Output/Audio]
0. Audio/Sink combined


Have you yet tried to revert to pulseaudio?

[vidtek]

Yes tried reverting to pulseaudio but still not working on Noble Numbat. I have spent too long of my life on this, and I haven't got an awful lot of it left! I'm going to leave it there and hope that it is sorted before the demise of Jammy.

Pulse has been working well for years, why oh why do they have to change it for something that doesn't quite work yet? By all means if it's a drop-in replacement with more features, but this looks like change just for the sake of change.

Tony.