24.04 will be Noble

[corradoventu]

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble

[TheFu]

Wish they'd stop using anything except the yy.mm nomenclature to end the confusion using 2 different names for the same thing and all the waste around that.

[MAFoElffen]

The Noble repo is up, 0 packages that are updated yet... I thought I had some kind of error, but I didnt.

[guiverc]

The Noble repo is up, 917 packages that are updated, but... upgrade fails on package libsgutils2-1.46-2_1.46-3ubuntu2_amd64.deb.


Unpacking libsgutils2-1.46-2:amd64 (1.46-3ubuntu2) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils2-1.46-2_1.46-3ubuntu2_amd64.
deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsgutils2-1.46.so.2.0.0', which is also in package libsgutils2-2:amd64 1.46-1ubuntu0.23.04.1
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libsgutils2-1.46-2_1.46-3ubuntu2_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I gave it a "Noble" try. LOL. Will try again tomorrow.

I've only noted one upgrade appear; and that was rather insignificant as I see it (`distro-info-data`).

My system was fully upgraded mantic, so I wouldn't expect libsgutils2-1.46-2 package to offer upgrade


guiverc@d7050-next:~$ rmadison libsgutils2-1.46-2
libsgutils2-1.46-2 | 1.46-3ubuntu2 | mantic | amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
libsgutils2-1.46-2 | 1.46-3ubuntu2 | noble | amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x


but I've also paid little attention thus far; its so early.

[MAFoElffen]

You were right. IDK what happened. I redid it and it then said there where 0 updates.

[cecilpierce]

I can't remember how to update to noble, can someone help ?
My /etc/apt/sources.list says it has been moved to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources ???

[#&thj^%]

Use at your own risk:

sudo sed -i s/lunar/noble/g /etc/apt/sources.list
First disable any PPA's that might be active.

[cecilpierce]

Thanks

[MAFoElffen]

He had a typo... Was probably just in a hurry.


sudo sed -i s/lunar/nobel/g /etc/apt/sources.list

Steps are one at a time between releases...


sudo sed -i 's/lunar/mantic/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
# OR
sudo sed -i 's/mantic/noble/g' /etc/apt/sources.list

[#&thj^%]

He had a typo... Was probably just in a hurry.


sudo sed -i s/lunar/nobel/g /etc/apt/sources.list

Steps are one at a time between releases...


sudo sed -i 's/lunar/mantic/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
# OR
sudo sed -i 's/mantic/nobel/g' /etc/apt/sources.list


it still worked for me :P
But the two step should have been posted anyway
Proof


tac '/etc/apt/sources.list'
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic-security multiverse restricted main universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security main restricted
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security main restricted

# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu mantic partner
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu mantic partner
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## 'partner' repository.
## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic-updates multiverse
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic multiverse
## security team.
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic-updates universe
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic universe
## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic-updates main restricted
## distribution.
## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic main restricted
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic main restricted
# newer versions of the distribution.
# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to

# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security main restricted
# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic-updates main restricted

# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ mantic main restricted

sudo sed -i s/mantic/nobel/g /etc/apt/sources.list
And now

*tac '/etc/apt/sources.list'
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel-security multiverse restricted main universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security main restricted
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security main restricted

# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu nobel partner
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu nobel partner
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## 'partner' repository.
## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel-backports main restricted universe multiverse
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel-updates multiverse
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel multiverse
## security team.
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel-updates universe
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel universe
## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel-updates main restricted
## distribution.
## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the

# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel main restricted
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel main restricted
# newer versions of the distribution.
# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to

# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu nobel-security main restricted
# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel-updates main restricted

# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ nobel main restricted

enough sed...lol

[guiverc]

We also now know the animial, alas my system doesn't yet.

`neofetch` currently reports my system as



OS: Lubuntu Noble N (development branch) x86_64


but earlier this morning (my local time) the following hit my inbox

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2023-October/001341.html

or "Noble Numbat is now open for development"

Made me smile; I wasn't using Ubuntu when karmic koala was supported, thus I missed the prior aussie animal, but I'm using Ubuntu now & will be for this numbat.

Development queues are long I've been reading on IRC, so packages maybe arriving too.

[MAFoElffen]

I'm curious to see the graphics they decide on for that... LOL

[jbicha]

@1fallen, it's noble not nobel

[ajgreeny]

I downloaded the daily iso of Xubuntu-Mantic last night, installed it in KVM/QEMU this afternoon without any difficulties, made sure it was fully updated, then edited the sources.list file to point to the noble repos as suggested above.

All appeared to work fine when I ran the update with the new sources.list but when I then tried to install vlc and audacious neither would install, the error suggesting dependency problems.

I'm not expecting an answer to this but just adding the information for others to see. I will leave the system without those packages for now but will keep everyone updated over the next few weeks as I suspect these problems may disappear with time as everything gets updated.

[MAFoElffen]

I think it's still in a state of transition.

It has only been about 2 days since the first changes arrived. I did my sources list when the repo's first went live, and checked for updates periodically, to see when the changes would start coming in. Those started 2 days ago.

I think there has been 20-30 updates each day so far...

I have noticed some minor cosmetic tweaks (like on a lock-screen slider), but not much else so far.

[guiverc]

I have noticed some minor cosmetic tweaks (like on a lock-screen slider), but not much else so far.

I've noticed none (that interest me anyway; I'm upgrading my normal 3 times per day at terminal & looking thru packages to be installed)... I've not really looked for any appearing in my general usage, and I'm yet to login with anything other than my most used Lubuntu/LXQt session with noble (haven't yet switched session to Xubuntu, Ubuntu Desktop which I also have installed)

The one difference I'm aware of (with regards Lubuntu), is a newer `calamares



calamares | 3.3.0-alpha2-0ubuntu6 | mantic/universe | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
calamares | 3.3.0-alpha4-0ubuntu1 | noble/universe | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x


alas with no ISOs for noble yet, the only way I could look at that would be to use a mantic ISO, update the sources to use noble, upgrade calamares etc, then do install testing. For now I'm happy to wait (we've got time).

[corradoventu]

A beautiful wallpaper for numbat https://assets.wwf.org.au/image/upload/v1678934636/RSwwfau_8888_RSwwfau_8888_hpr.jpg
https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/header-image-numbat.jpg

[guiverc]

A beautiful wallpaper for numbat https://assets.wwf.org.au/image/upload/v1678934636/RSwwfau_8888_RSwwfau_8888_hpr.jpg

That is a beautiful wallpaper. Thank you.

[ajgreeny]

I have just zsynced the iso I downloaded two days ago and downoaded the new 24.04 Xubuntu iso which is now available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
I have installed it as VM in KVM/QEMU on both my desktop and laptop machines without any problems at all.

The zsync download showed that the Mantic iso was 83% the same as the Noble iso.

All seems to be working as it should at the moment but I accept it is very early in the development cycle so there are plenty of opportunities for things to go wrong.

[MAFoElffen]

Dang. At this moment... For current Noble Dailies on 'ubuntu'... it just has arm64 images in 'current', but 'pending' shows amd64 images added to that... The pre-pre-pre-release. LOL. Almost there.

EDIT: ???
What is this separate test image that is added to that? Says: "For Lenovo X13s Gen 1." (Snapdragon)

[ajgreeny]

No idea about that separate test image.

When I downloaded the Xubuntu Noble iso yesterday a quick search through all the dailys on offer showed that the three versions with downloadable 24.04 isos were Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu-Mate. All the others were still offering 23.10; no doubt they will quickly catch up!

[Claus7]

Hello,


Dang. At this moment... For current Noble Dailies on 'ubuntu'... it just has arm64 images in 'current', but 'pending' shows amd64 images added to that... The pre-pre-pre-release. LOL. Almost there.
...

thanks for that. I downloaded noble amd64 from here: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/pending/

Regards!

[MAFoElffen]

The Noble Daily Server images this morning are there in pending showing: amd64, aarch64 (arm64), PowerPC64, IBM systemz, and RISC-V, and the NetBoot image. Last night, it was just at arm64.

Desktop Dailys current still shows AARCH64 and that Lenovo ISO, with just adding amd64 in pending.

I can tell you that I downloaded the 'pending' server amd64 daily ISO, and it lies... That ISO is a current Mantic daily server iso image... It is not a Noble image yet.

It did not update the installer image during the install, was purely 23.10, and only had 3 packages to update. It was a successful Mantic Daily. LOL.

Getting closer to having ISO's that we can 'officially' test and report problems on. Just not there yet.

I didn't check what the pending Ubuntu Desktop amd64 iso's had in them... Will check again tomorrow.

[corradoventu]

I installed today from amd64 pending: Ubuntu 24.04 "Noble Numbat" - Daily amd64 (20231102)
corrado@corrado-n4-nn-1102:~$ inxi -SCMxc
System:
Host: corrado-n4-nn-1102 Kernel: 6.5.0-9-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: N/A Desktop: GNOME v: 45.0 Distro: Ubuntu 24.04 (Noble Numbat)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: H510M H v: -CF
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Gigabyte model: H510M H v: x.x serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: F14 date: 03/25/2022
CPU:
Info: 6-core model: 11th Gen Intel Core i5-11400 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Rocket Lake rev: 1 cache: L1: 480 KiB L2: 3 MiB L3: 12 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/4400 cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 bogomips: 62208
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
corrado@corrado-n4-nn-1102:~$

[Doug S]

I downloaded a server iso after following links on the testing tracker (https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/450/builds/288949/testcases).
I tried it twice on VM's on 2 seperate computers. One was my main debain server and the other was my main Ubuntu test server. Both just hung during startup (well, the VNC terminal part at least). But I could ping them and ssh seemed to be running.
... Delete a bunch of useless stuff related to my incorrect "virsh install" command...

My goodness the ISO is huge:


doug@s19:~/iso$ ls -l
total 16902880
...
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 830472192 Nov 30 2019 focal-server-amd64-2019-11-30.iso
-rw-r-xr-- 1 libvirt-qemu kvm 1277655040 Nov 14 2021 jammy-live-server-amd64-2021-11-14.iso
-rw-r-xr-- 1 libvirt-qemu kvm 1466714112 Apr 21 2022 jammy-live-server-amd64-2022-04-21.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1073741824 Jun 22 17:30 memtest86-usb.img
-rw-rwxr-- 1 libvirt-qemu kvm 2621435904 Nov 2 13:33 noble-live-server-amd64-2023-11-02.iso

I used the following command:


virt-install -n serv-nn -r 8192 \
--disk path=/home/doug/vm/serv-nn.img,bus=virtio,size=50 \
-c noble-live-server-amd64-2023-11-02.iso \
--network bridge=br0,model=virtio,mac=52:54:00:0d:24:04 \
--video=vmvga --graphics vnc,listen=0.0.0.0 --noautoconsole -v --vcpus=4

EDIT: I am so dense sometimes. I have multiple notes with my long past VM install attempts saying "Note no "--video=vmvga", it doesn't work otherwise". So, if I just paid attention to my own notes it installs fine. Command:



virt-install -n serv-nn -r 8192 \
--disk path=/home/doug/vm/serv-nn.img,bus=virtio,size=50 \
-c noble-live-server-amd64-2023-11-02.iso \
--network bridge=br0,model=virtio,mac=52:54:00:0d:24:04 \
--graphics vnc,listen=0.0.0.0 --noautoconsole -v --vcpus=4


And:


doug@serv-nn:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu Noble Numbat (development branch)
Release: 24.04
Codename: noble
doug@serv-nn:~$

[#&thj^%]

@1fallen, it's noble not nobel

by golly I did have a dang type o , :o


NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION_ID="24.04"
VERSION="24.04 (Noble Numbat)"
VERSION_CODENAME=noble
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy"
UBUNTU_CODENAME=noble
LOGO=ubuntu-logo

[ajgreeny]

Can't find Kubuntu 24.04 Noble ISO download.
No, it's not yet available though some others from the family are.
I check daily at present using https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/

[Claus7]

Hello,

I used it under vb. Installation wasn't successful. I tried the full installation. I guess I will wait until a newer, not pending, iso appears.

Regards!

[MAFoElffen]

The Noble Server ISO is in daily/pending. this time it was "Noble". LOL Installed great.

The 4 packages that had updates after the install were ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-server minimal, ubuntu-server. Those had updates on my static server test-cases today also.