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mjonutz
August 23rd, 2018, 12:46 PM
Is the Earth a globe and is spinning ? Recently i read a couple of articles that state the other wise, what do you think?

TheFu
August 23rd, 2018, 01:57 PM
Is the Earth a globe and is spinning ? Recently i read a couple of articles that state the other wise, what do you think?

I think those articles are written by people with an agenda. They don't care about facts which can be/have been proven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation

As for spinning Earth - sunrise and sunset is enough proof for me.

The Earth isn't a perfect sphere. It is close and I doubt a human would see the bulge from any distance, but it can be measured. Gravity does change slightly around the Earth based on the bulge and altitude.

kurt18947
August 23rd, 2018, 02:10 PM
Ask anyone who's been in space. Or even someone who's flown a high performance military/reconnaissance aircraft. I think they get high enough to be able to see the curve of the horizon.

verymadpip
August 23rd, 2018, 02:53 PM
Stars rotating around a central point anti-clockwise in the northern hemisphere & clockwise in the southern hemisphere indicate that the Earth is a spheroidal body.
There is plenty more evidence to support the notion of Earth being a spheroidal body rotating at one revolution per day.
It ain't flat & it ain't stationary, although I must admit that some of the "information" out there suggesting such a thing is ostensibly plausible, but does not hold up under scrutiny.

mjonutz
August 24th, 2018, 12:42 PM
Ask anyone who's been in space. Or even someone who's flown a high performance military/reconnaissance aircraft. I think they get high enough to be able to see the curve of the horizon.

Maybe in the space some people have been. But is obvious for me that the Americans never been to the Moon, in fact no one. Why? Because from 1969 technology evolved so much but still no one landed a second time, no nation.

mjonutz
August 24th, 2018, 12:43 PM
I think those articles are written by people with an agenda. They don't care about facts which can be/have been proven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation

As for spinning Earth - sunrise and sunset is enough proof for me.

The Earth isn't a perfect sphere. It is close and I doubt a human would see the bulge from any distance, but it can be measured. Gravity does change slightly around the Earth based on the bulge and altitude.

Have a look over here https://www.simonarich.com/earth-is-not-a-globe/

mjonutz
August 24th, 2018, 12:44 PM
Stars rotating around a central point anti-clockwise in the northern hemisphere & clockwise in the southern hemisphere indicate that the Earth is a spheroidal body.
There is plenty more evidence to support the notion of Earth being a spheroidal body rotating at one revolution per day.
It ain't flat & it ain't stationary, although I must admit that some of the "information" out there suggesting such a thing is ostensibly plausible, but does not hold up under scrutiny.

Hmm, i disagree with you, have a look http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

TheFu
August 24th, 2018, 01:20 PM
Maybe in the space some people have been. But is obvious for me that the Americans never been to the Moon, in fact no one. Why? Because from 1969 technology evolved so much but still no one landed a second time, no nation.

I've met people who have walked on the moon and worked with Apollo Mission Flight Controllers as their careers were winding down.
I've touched moon samples.
I've seen thousands of photos taken from the surface.
I've been to multiple museums where the Apollo hardware is held in the public trust.
The Apollo lander code is available on github, if you are so inclined. Many watches have more computing power.

There were multiple missions where men walked on the moon. What we learned was that there really wasn't much there that was too interesting to justify the costs for the problems accessing the resources. Water on the moon is slightly interesting, in the same way that there are millions of pounds of gold in the oceans. Yes, it is there, but accessing it is too costly compared to other ways for access.

Other nations have also been to the moon, just not with people. Sending people is very hard. Sending robots is still hard, but doable. China, India, Israel, Russia. In the next year, there are 3 missions planning to land and move on the surface - China, India, Israel. Germany goes in the year following. China will be returning samples.

You can look up all the failed missions to the moon too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon#Missions_to_date
A private company has already orbited the moon twice, BTW. Back in 1997.

It is about to be 1000x cheaper to get to the moon, but that is still hugely expensive.

I'm out of this thread folks. This is along the lines of "prove there aren't 1,000 Gods."

again?
August 24th, 2018, 01:31 PM
I read the first reason why the Earth is not a globe. Thanks for the laugh.

"1. If the Earth were a globe, some people would have to walk upside down."

poorguy
August 24th, 2018, 02:06 PM
@ mjonutz,


So you are one of them conspiracy types who believes everything is a lie and total bull crap.
Were you actually around when this was happening or are you just reading someone else's conspiracy bull crap.

If Americans never went to the moon and never landed on the moon than I really doubt that NASA would have tried to replicate so many different missions.

I grew up in this time of events and believe them to actually have happened unlike today's generation who only believes in Facebook and twitter and cellphones.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/apollo11.html

verymadpip
August 24th, 2018, 03:06 PM
Hmm, i disagree with you, have a look http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2...ning-ball.html (http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html)
You can disagree with me all you like, nonetheless, FE "theory" still doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
I'm yet to see a flat Earth proponent provide any positive evidence for the flat fantasy.
It looks a lot like you've just come here to push this nonsense.

maglin2
August 24th, 2018, 04:19 PM
Just a thought, apropos of nothing in particular.
Does the forum have any means of recognising the work of a fake news bot?

coffeecat
August 24th, 2018, 04:24 PM
Just a thought, apropos of nothing in particular.
Does the forum have any means of recognising the work of a fake news bot?

Be assured that this thread is being watched by the forum staff. And has been since the first post in it. :wink:

deadflowr
August 24th, 2018, 06:28 PM
I like the pacman theory.
I don't believe it, but I like it.

maglin2
August 24th, 2018, 07:44 PM
@coffeecat
That's good to hear.
There are already enough places on the internet where the mischievous and the manipulative gather to attempt to exploit the gullible and infuriate the reasonable.

coffeefiend
August 25th, 2018, 04:28 PM
I would say most FE "believers" are more akin to science deniers than anything else. Trying to debate a FE'er is like trying to explain the theory of relativity to a newborn kitten. You can argue with facts until you are blue in the face and they will counter with "those lies are what the PTB use to keep us under control." You can show them pictures of the earth taken from space and they will say the are all photo shopped. You can show them videos of the astronauts onboard the ISS and they will tell you they are actually in a Hollywood studio and use wires to trick us into thinking they are floating. Their fail-safe argument is that the Bible says the earth is flat. Nevermind the fact that the Bible, although it is said to be the word of God, was written by Bronze-age men who had little to no concept of science.

oldos2er
August 25th, 2018, 08:16 PM
And closed.